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Savage on autism: "A fraud, a racket. ... In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been to
kimmar
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I think this guy is nuts. He says 99% of autism cases are because of a father who will not snap a kid into shape. And that it's because men are acting like girls.
How exactly do girls act? I guess according to this strong and brooding male we sit around crying on cue.
My, God. I'm glad my boy's are not being raised by this moron. Yeah, we tell them to suck it up if they cry for no reason, but at what point are boys supposed to have no emotion? Is the stoic philosophy actually that good for fathers to follow? I don't think so. Are men supposed to only show emotion when they grunt during sexual activity?
And sorry Mr. Savage (lol, whoa savage, grrrrr...), guy. I can't remember the last time I actually cried. Maybe a decade ago. I guess I'm not his idea of what women should be either, always fawning and coy. Bleh!
And I wonder, I wonder really if he would feel the same if he had an autistic child. I wonder if his frustration would drive him to consider himself a bad parent then. After all, maybe he just didn't punish that kid enough through demeaning talk.
Savage on autism: "A fraud, a racket. ... In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out"
Summary: On his nationally syndicated radio show, Michael Savage claimed that autism is "[a] fraud, a racket. ... I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, 'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot.' "
On the July 16 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Michael Savage claimed that autism is "[a] fraud, a racket." Savage went on to say, "I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, 'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot.' " Savage concluded, "[I]f I behaved like a fool, my father called me a fool. And he said to me, 'Don't behave like a fool.' The worst thing he said -- 'Don't behave like a fool. Don't be anybody's dummy. Don't sound like an idiot. Don't act like a girl. Don't cry.' That's what I was raised with. That's what you should raise your children with. Stop with the sensitivity training. You're turning your son into a girl, and you're turning your nation into a nation of losers and beaten men. That's why we have the politicians we have."
Savage also stated: "[W]hy was there an asthma epidemic amongst minority children? Because I'll tell you why: The children got extra welfare if they were disabled, and they got extra help in school. It was a money racket. Everyone went in and was told [fake cough], 'When the nurse looks at you, you go [fake cough], "I don't know, the dust got me." ' See, everyone had asthma from the minority community."
Talk Radio Network, which syndicates The Savage Nation, claims that Savage is heard on more than 350 radio stations. The Savage Nation reaches at least 8.25 million listeners each week, according to Talkers Magazine, making it one of the most listened-to talk radio shows in the nation, behind only The Rush Limbaugh Show and The Sean Hannity Show.
From the July 16 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:
SAVAGE: Now, you want me to tell you my opinion on autism, since I'm not talking about autism? A fraud, a racket. For a long while, we were hearing that every minority child had asthma. Why did they sudden -- why was there an asthma epidemic amongst minority children? Because I'll tell you why: The children got extra welfare if they were disabled, and they got extra help in school. It was a money racket. Everyone went in and was told [fake cough], "When the nurse looks at you, you go [fake cough], 'I don't know, the dust got me.' " See, everyone had asthma from the minority community. That was number one.
Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is.
What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."
Autism -- everybody has an illness. If I behaved like a fool, my father called me a fool. And he said to me, "Don't behave like a fool." The worst thing he said -- "Don't behave like a fool. Don't be anybody's dummy. Don't sound like an idiot. Don't act like a girl. Don't cry." That's what I was raised with. That's what you should raise your children with. Stop with the sensitivity training. You're turning your son into a girl, and you're turning your nation into a nation of losers and beaten men. That's why we have the politicians we have.
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while his approach may be wrong and politically incorrect, I do see his point.
Everyone these days are putting excuses to children's misbehavior. When I was a Priest I held a seminar on Autism and how to handle a child who is autistic.
Many children are misdiagnose with autism as well as Attention Deficit Disorder when they simply do not have it. Doctors hand out prescription medication for the kids to supress them rather than really get to the root to the problem; its like pills are a cure all to anything versus other alternatives.
Many parents are also getting doctors to label their children as autistic. An autistic child will get you $800 a month from the US Government until they turn 18.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
I imagine part of savage's statement comes from a ignorance. I don't claim to be an expert on autism but I am given to understand it is something like a spectrum disorder with some being severely afflicted and others being highly functional but given over to some quirks. Much of the seeming rise in autism may be attributed to different diagnostic methods rather than an actual increase in incidence.
If you are not being responded to directly, you are probably on my ignore list.
I can see his point, I disagree with some of what he said, but agree with the rest.
I reckon he derives his opinion due to his child hood, as he said his parents didn't want him to become anyones fool, powerful stuff imo.
His approach is completely wrong. And what point are you seeing? That it's okay for someone to spot a problem and run a side project tying in unrelated issues so that they can get listeners riled up and ratings to soar? At what point does a persons moral fiber begin to be questioned?
And I've seen this before. It's called sensationalism. You take a problem that is small and make a big deal out of it. In turn, people begin to get the impression that this is a huge problem when in reality it actually has little if any effect on anyone. Terrorism thrives on this!
I would bet you'd be hard pressed to find a doctor who makes it a practice to commonly and knowingly misdiagnose children with autism. It might have happened somewhere in this country, I'm not saying that it has not. But to say many parents are doing this, I find hard to believe.
And even if what you say were true, that still does not excuse this pathetic person from running his mouth on the air. To me, this is a symptom of his arrogance and willingness to set aside being decent for a dollar. How is he any different from a parent who would seek that $800/month using shady tactics?
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It all seems so stupid
It makes me want to give up
But why should I give up
When it all seems so stupid
Well, he seems to have gone against his parents lessons. I hope they are proud! I'm sure if they taught him that only money matters, then they are beaming right now.
I feel sorry for the parents who have autistic children and now have to put up with a new group of dimwits who will listen to this man and judge them.
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It all seems so stupid
It makes me want to give up
But why should I give up
When it all seems so stupid
His approach is completely wrong. And what point are you seeing? That it's okay for someone to spot a problem and run a side project tying in unrelated issues so that they can get listeners riled up and ratings to soar? At what point does a persons moral fiber begin to be questioned?
And I've seen this before. It's called sensationalism. You take a problem that is small and make a big deal out of it. In turn, people begin to get the impression that this is a huge problem when in reality it actually has little if any effect on anyone. Terrorism thrives on this!
I would bet you'd be hard pressed to find a doctor who makes it a practice to commonly and knowingly misdiagnose children with autism. It might have happened somewhere in this country, I'm not saying that it has not. But to say many parents are doing this, I find hard to believe.
And even if what you say were true, that still does not excuse this pathetic person from running his mouth on the air. To me, this is a symptom of his arrogance and willingness to set aside being decent for a dollar. How is he any different from a parent who would seek that $800/month using shady tactics?
I thought I said it clearly in my first post. Doctors today are lazy and misdiagnosing many things rather than getting to the route of the problem. And you are exactly right. It is sensationalism and the medical field of ADHD and Autism is progressively being swamped with sensationalism. Lets give little johnny pill A and it'll be A OK!
Actually, you can take your children to a set of doctors and by the end of the week I guarantee you that one will say one of your children exhibits signs of autism. Ive seen it before. It happens EVERYWHERE in this country; same goes for doctors overly diagnosing ADHD as well.
Savage may have said it in a politically incorrect tone, but he has a point. Drugs for this drugs for that, lets drug everyone for everything and lets diagnose everyone with everything! A parent searching for a doctor until they find one to diagnose their child with autism so that the parents can get a free 800 bucks a month for 18 years a just a TAD (/sarcasm) bit more shadey than Savage telling parents to stop buying into this mess in his tackless ways.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
i work with autistic kids on a regular basis.
Savage has a point...of course his "99%" figure is a hyperbole, he does have a point about autism being misdiagnosed.
Now, to be clear, it really depends on what kind of autism that we're talking about here...see, autism is one of those things that takes many shapes, and, like ADD, can sometimes be used as a throw away "I can't figure out what is really wrong with you and don't want to take the time to examine your home-life" diagnosis.
I have a cousin who is autistic, and if anyone were to meet him and say "there is no way that this guy has something developmentally wrong with him." they would have to be completely stupid...he has a form of autism called asbergers (sp?) and it severely inhibits his ability to interact with others on a social level, and it has messed with his brain functions in a very peculiar way...he can do paper work like nobody's business...he's a genius in some ways, and a child in other ways.
Now the kids that have been misdiagnosed...well, obviously Savage is using a hyperbole with his 99% estimate, but here is what my experience has been:
There are really three types of autistic kids that I work with...the first group is the one that you can immediately go "hey, yeah, there is something not quite right about this kid's brain functions." These kids would be the 1% that Savage is talking about.
The second group appears normal at first, but when you get down to know them on a more personal level, it becomes clear that parenting is not the problem, and that there is something in them that just isn't clicking like it is for the other kids...On the surface they appear normal, it takes a bit of digging to realize that they truly are not.
The third group is the group of kids that Savage is referring to...but it can sometimes be impossible to tell if these kids are putting on an act or not. I've had an "autistic" kid put on this big huge show where he was threatening to stab us all, kill us all, and do any other number of crazy things that no parent should have to hear their child say...when this was going on, I noticed something about his behavior...when he would bolt for a door that I would stand in front of to block his path, he would smile just a little bit...he knew full well what he was doing and thought that his little game was actually quite humorous. When the kids parents arrived to pick him up, it was clear that this kid had some rather...uhh..lenient parents. So any predisposition that the child had toward attention whoring with violent words was only exacerbated by their touchy feely style of parenting.
My conclusion about this whole thing though is that Savage is speaking in huge generalities and probably doesn't have nearly enough experience working with these kinds of kids to be talking about the subject. The man knows a lot about his particular area of expertise, but he clearly doesn't have the whole story on autism. Does he have a point about misdiagnosis? YOU BET!...Is autism a "fraud, a racket where the brats haven't been told to cut the act out" ? Well...sometimes the misdiagnoses can be..but in most cases, no.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
His approach is completely wrong. And what point are you seeing? That it's okay for someone to spot a problem and run a side project tying in unrelated issues so that they can get listeners riled up and ratings to soar? At what point does a persons moral fiber begin to be questioned?
And I've seen this before. It's called sensationalism. You take a problem that is small and make a big deal out of it. In turn, people begin to get the impression that this is a huge problem when in reality it actually has little if any effect on anyone. Terrorism thrives on this!
I would bet you'd be hard pressed to find a doctor who makes it a practice to commonly and knowingly misdiagnose children with autism. It might have happened somewhere in this country, I'm not saying that it has not. But to say many parents are doing this, I find hard to believe.
And even if what you say were true, that still does not excuse this pathetic person from running his mouth on the air. To me, this is a symptom of his arrogance and willingness to set aside being decent for a dollar. How is he any different from a parent who would seek that $800/month using shady tactics?
I thought I said it clearly in my first post. Doctors today are lazy and misdiagnosing many things rather than getting to the route of the problem. And you are exactly right. It is sensationalism and the medical field of ADHD and Autism is progressively being swamped with sensationalism. Lets give little johnny pill A and it'll be A OK!
Actually, you can take your children to a set of doctors and by the end of the week I guarantee you that one will say one of your children exhibits signs of autism. Ive seen it before. It happens EVERYWHERE in this country; same goes for doctors overly diagnosing ADHD as well.
Savage may have said it in a politically incorrect tone, but he has a point. Drugs for this drugs for that, lets drug everyone for everything and lets diagnose everyone with everything! A parent searching for a doctor until they find one to diagnose their child with autism so that the parents can get a free 800 bucks a month for 18 years a just a TAD (/sarcasm) bit more shadey than Savage telling parents to stop buying into this mess in his tackless ways.
Agreed.vary touchy subject.money is a big factor.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Autism has something to do with chromosomes. To much material in them or something. This is newly discovered.
It wont be long before doctors can diagnose autism properlly. I don't agree with the way that savage said it, or even 99% of what he said, but I do agree that there are a lot of misdiagnosed cases and a lot of fraudulent ones as well.
doctors are to quick to write prescriptions. This is a problem.
People are to greedy and with the way the US is going people are simply willing to do just about anything to make a living.
Wish Darkfall would release.
His approach is completely wrong. And what point are you seeing? That it's okay for someone to spot a problem and run a side project tying in unrelated issues so that they can get listeners riled up and ratings to soar? At what point does a persons moral fiber begin to be questioned?
And I've seen this before. It's called sensationalism. You take a problem that is small and make a big deal out of it. In turn, people begin to get the impression that this is a huge problem when in reality it actually has little if any effect on anyone. Terrorism thrives on this!
I would bet you'd be hard pressed to find a doctor who makes it a practice to commonly and knowingly misdiagnose children with autism. It might have happened somewhere in this country, I'm not saying that it has not. But to say many parents are doing this, I find hard to believe.
And even if what you say were true, that still does not excuse this pathetic person from running his mouth on the air. To me, this is a symptom of his arrogance and willingness to set aside being decent for a dollar. How is he any different from a parent who would seek that $800/month using shady tactics?
I thought I said it clearly in my first post. Doctors today are lazy and misdiagnosing many things rather than getting to the route of the problem. And you are exactly right. It is sensationalism and the medical field of ADHD and Autism is progressively being swamped with sensationalism. Lets give little johnny pill A and it'll be A OK!
Actually, you can take your children to a set of doctors and by the end of the week I guarantee you that one will say one of your children exhibits signs of autism. Ive seen it before. It happens EVERYWHERE in this country; same goes for doctors overly diagnosing ADHD as well.
Savage may have said it in a politically incorrect tone, but he has a point. Drugs for this drugs for that, lets drug everyone for everything and lets diagnose everyone with everything! A parent searching for a doctor until they find one to diagnose their child with autism so that the parents can get a free 800 bucks a month for 18 years a just a TAD (/sarcasm) bit more shadey than Savage telling parents to stop buying into this mess in his tackless ways.
When it comes to issues such as ADHD, you're preaching to the choir. However, I know that it is a bit more difficult for someone to get $800/month from the government for an autistic child than for them to just go down to the local doc shop and have one doctor declare them autistic. This is a disorder that I'm sure takes many peoples input. And I am also sure that if the government notices a single set of docs making the same diagnosis without adequate testing, there is going to be some kind of investigation. It might go on a for a little while, but it will eventually be rooted out.
Not only that, but I'm under the impression that the overwhelming percentage of parents love their children to death. Putting a label on your child like this severely limits their chances of success in life for just getting $800/month. Call me crazy or naive, but I just cannot see most parents wanting to do something like that for that little amount of money. I guess I'm too wrapped up in the emotions I feel for my own children. I know how strong that emotion is and I would never do anything to hurt them, especially for money!
And I will not excuse this radio bozo for what he said. I get the sense that you are somehow cutting him some slack and taking away from his level of responsibility in this matter. If problems are going to be solved then it takes people being honest and straight forward about them. Not people trying to use one issue to spread demonization amongst other groups as well.
I'm sorry if I'm reading your posts wrong, but I really get the impression you would give this guy a mile when he does not deserve an inch of slack.
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It all seems so stupid
It makes me want to give up
But why should I give up
When it all seems so stupid
Drug companies "encourage" doctors to diagnose kids with stuff like autism and ADD/ADHD, because when that prescription gets written they get guaranteed income from the kid's parent's insurance company over a long time span.
I agree with Draenor here, Autism is most often a legit condition, but with conditions like autism and ADHD, where it's impossible to get an exact diagnosis and three different doctors could give three different diagnoses, there is a huge opportunity for fraud, especially when the idiots in Congress go around handing out money to the "poor, burdened parents" of kids that supposedly have these illnesses.
Like I said, he's a sensationalist. He's not helping the problem by saying what he did. All that he has done is take the group of listeners he has and put in their heads that it is now okay to judge autistic children and their parents. Now, instead of first looking for getting these kids some help, people are first going to look at the parents with skepticism. It amazes me that someone would give a sensationalist radio big mouth that kind of credibility, but they do.
Do people in his position ever feel a sense of guilt for what they say? Or does the paycheck soothe whatever problems his conscience causes him?
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It all seems so stupid
It makes me want to give up
But why should I give up
When it all seems so stupid
Including misrepresent data on the radio!
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It all seems so stupid
It makes me want to give up
But why should I give up
When it all seems so stupid
Fred Volkmar, Psychiatrist and Autism expert states "There is unfortunately a sort of cottage industry of finding that everyone has Asperger's" This man is the leader in the field of Autism. By this quote he must beleive everyone who is diagnosed with Autism does nessacarily not have Autism.
Savage's spin mirrors this statement, of course to an nth degree, but that is Savage's way, he is not a touchy feely type of guy, Most of the time he is a total hard ass. Like it or not it is his way. After all he is a "shock jock"
Including misrepresent data on the radio!
Absolutely.
Like I said. I don't agree with 99% of what the guy said.
Wish Darkfall would release.
So, let's take the opportunity to get on the radio and say that 99% of parents with kids who "have autism" are just whiny parents who's father acts like a girl. That should make things all better.
Why is this guy so popular for saying things like this on the air? Oh, oh, oh, I know. Because there is a group of people that will tune in to hear this train wreck ramble. Doesn't matter if he says things that are completely wrong and crazy, he's going to get cut some slack for his irresponsibility. Rile up the partisan forces.
I swear, I could go on the radio and be so popular if it weren't for my damned morality getting in the way.
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It makes me want to give up
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And not everyone diagnosed with cancer ends up having cancer.
Bold statement, but I would honestly have to see an unbiased study done that figures out just how many deceitful misdiagnosis are made. I'm suspicious and think that the number would be pretty low.
And I can be a hard ass like Savage too. Only I choose to fall on the side of being a hard ass for morality and decency. Somehow I find people in that camp to be true and easier to listen to. I've never understood the group that just goes around looking for blatant nastiness as entertainment. And I even more do not understand someone who would consider this guy a person to get behind and represent them with his voice.
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It all seems so stupid
It makes me want to give up
But why should I give up
When it all seems so stupid
And not everyone diagnosed with cancer ends up having cancer.
Bold statement, but I would honestly have to see an unbiased study done that figures out just how many deceitful misdiagnosis are made. I'm suspicious and think that the number would be pretty low.
And I can be a hard ass like Savage too. Only I choose to fall on the side of being a hard ass for morality and decency. Somehow I find people in that camp to be true and easier to listen to. I've never understood the group that just goes around looking for blatant nastiness as entertainment. And I even more do not understand someone who would consider this guy a person to get behind and represent them with his voice.
I listen to a lot of talk radio. I don't know if you've heard of him or not, but if you are looking for the most decent person on the air, then I've found that to be Dennis Prager.
I disagree with some things that Dennis Prager is behind, but I have a lot of respect for him as a person. He is a kind person who seems to run everything through a moral filter in his life. He makes it a point to be uplifting and honest on his show and is nowhere close to mean and nasty about things.
I do not care so much for Savage either. He is a show man. I agree, I don't think he has much of a moral compass either. Of course, I don't think many people on talk radio do these days. There are some good guys out there, but they are the minority. I guess it shows what the market craves though. Sad if you ask me.
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When you were a priest? I thought you guys just put these cases in the "Demonic Possession" file and started flinging holy water at them.
You know what I find kind of ironic here (and I'm not saying you do this, Enigma. I'm just saying)? It seems that some of the same people who find this great conspiracy of the unwashed masses is possible, yet somehow no one can see a conspiracy taking place against us when it comes to government.
If parents can commit this conspiracy for $800 a month, what could motivate some governmental power hungry chumps to do what they could do?
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cartman has tourettes
-I will subtlety invade your psyche-
When you were a priest? I thought you guys just put these cases in the "Demonic Possession" file and started flinging holy water at them.
Only if they are Linda Blair
. Contrary to popular belief Priests are licensed counselors (we have to go through the same counseling classes as licensed counselors do and them some).
You know what I find kind of ironic here (and I'm not saying you do this, Enigma. I'm just saying)? It seems that some of the same people who find this great conspiracy of the unwashed masses is possible, yet somehow no one can see a conspiracy taking place against us when it comes to government.
Im not saying the Government uses people either. They are some of the biggest users of taking advantage of the people. I agree with you. What I dont agree with is the more "out there conspiracies" like the lunar land mission fakes or the collapse of building 7, etc.
If parents can commit this conspiracy for $800 a month, what could motivate some governmental power hungry chumps to do what they could do?
/agreed. Some governmental officials do some illegals things ALL the time.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Heh, I've known a guy with tourettes...I assure you that the disease is in fact real...But again, like ADD, ADHD, and autism, it's impossible to know how many cases are misdiagnosed, and I agree that Savage went about this the wrong way, but you need to give his listeners more credit for being able to think for themselves...I know that they are a predominantly conservative audience so many of you write them off at the door...but that's not at all realistic and I think that those of you who do that are probably aware of it.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Heh, I've known a guy with tourettes...I assure you that the disease is in fact real...But again, like ADD, ADHD, and autism, it's impossible to know how many cases are misdiagnosed, and I agree that Savage went about this the wrong way, but you need to give his listeners more credit for being able to think for themselves...I know that they are a predominantly conservative audience so many of you write them off at the door...but that's not at all realistic and I think that those of you who do that are probably aware of it.
I think there are some radical conservatives just as real as the radical liberals. They are out there man.
I live in the deep south (Alabama). I don't know if you've ever been down here before, but if you haven't then all I can say is you would not believe some of the things you see and hear going on. It's incomprehensible to me at times.
I promise you, there is a group of conservatives (fairly large down here) who have no quarrels in believing some completely outlandish shit. I mean, there are people down here who still speak of the times of lynchings as the glory days of the south, a time when people knew where they belonged in society! And you see it and hear it every freakin' day.
I know that the rest of the country (northeast, northwestern and western parts) have moved on for the most part, but this fundamentalist group down here is bitter and don't plan on going anywhere or changing anytime soon.
Once you've been down here a while you learn to spot it. Even in the most subtle of hints of conversation you can learn to spot it. And when those people get around someone with their own views and let loose, man your ears would melt off the sides of your head!
I promise you, they look to someone like this and see the coming Messiah. The stereotype of hateful redneck is no more false than the liberal stereotype that is ruining this country from the other end.
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My half-brother was mis-diagnosed with Autism at a young age.
For a long time my step-mom and father thought that it was just behavioral problems.
Then the doctors said it was learning dissabilities (this is as he got older)
He now has his own case study. My younger brother has a combination of mild autism, learning dissabilities, and a behavioral disorder. I forgot the technical term for what he has but he has trouble speaking and sensing other people's emotions. He also becomes frustraded very easily and is prone to tantrums and emotinal outbursts but is an idiot savant when it comes to computers. ( The tantrums don't happen as much because with puberty he is starting to realize he is different from his peers, this is good for now but I am really worried about him in H.S. kids are brutal.)
This guy is a jack ass looking for ratings. If he ever actually raised or lived with a child like this he would never had said what he said.. He's not a doctor just a fucking nobody looking for ratings.
We over-diagnose learning dissabilites and Autism too much. We were only able to find out what is wrong with Joe by years of research and the best doctors. They STILL don't know what it is. But blaming parents for not having the resources to find this out is ludicruos. The challenges parents with Autism face is nothing I would wish upon ANYONE. Have you ever seen a child SCREAMING CRY for 6 hours straight? We had to take him to the hospital to get an IV and a sedative cause he was so dehydrated. Then DO IT AGAIN THAT SAME WEEK. This would be over something so trivial, sometimes over nothing. You can't reason, you can't get mad, all you can really do is cry with them...
Personally after watching my brother grow up I can say that he was born with something wrong in his brain. I didn't used to think this, for a long time I just though he was spoiled/ bratty and "pretending". NOw that he is older I know he isn't "pretending" cause he yearns to be normal. He is 11 now and you just know by talking to him he isn't "normal".
I can say that sometimes it's the parents, sometimes its Autism, sometimes its a LD and sometimes it's all 3 and something else.
Also: No one knows what casues Autism I have heard everything from having kids over 40, watching too much TV at a young age, genetics and food additives. They don't know.
Heh, I've known a guy with tourettes...I assure you that the disease is in fact real...But again, like ADD, ADHD, and autism, it's impossible to know how many cases are misdiagnosed, and I agree that Savage went about this the wrong way, but you need to give his listeners more credit for being able to think for themselves...I know that they are a predominantly conservative audience so many of you write them off at the door...but that's not at all realistic and I think that those of you who do that are probably aware of it.
I think there are some radical conservatives just as real as the radical liberals. They are out there man.
I live in the deep south (Alabama). I don't know if you've ever been down here before, but if you haven't then all I can say is you would not believe some of the things you see and hear going on. It's incomprehensible to me at times.
I promise you, there is a group of conservatives (fairly large down here) who have no quarrels in believing some completely outlandish shit. I mean, there are people down here who still speak of the times of lynchings as the glory days of the south, a time when people knew where they belonged in society! And you see it and hear it every freakin' day.
I know that the rest of the country (northeast, northwestern and western parts) have moved on for the most part, but this fundamentalist group down here is bitter and don't plan on going anywhere or changing anytime soon.
Once you've been down here a while you learn to spot it. Even in the most subtle of hints of conversation you can learn to spot it. And when those people get around someone with their own views and let loose, man your ears would melt off the sides of your head!
I promise you, they look to someone like this and see the coming Messiah. The stereotype of hateful redneck is no more false than the liberal stereotype that is ruining this country from the other end.
Oh don't get me wrong, I do know that extremes exist on either side...luckily people like that have no real say in anything that goes on in this country and are rightfully marginalized.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.