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Expansion - AOC players will pay for the fixes

Expansion coming out early 2009.  Will contain much of the content that is lacking in game atm.   And probably second time ppl pay for the DX10.  Lets hope its in this time.

http://www.aocupdates.com/2008/07/16/age-of-conan-expansion-confirmed/

Hope you all have fun giving more Money to FC.

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  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431

    Wait let me get this straight, some of the features they promised in the release that were a no go are being implemented in an expansion, so people will have to pay for the expansion to get what they were supposed to get with the retail launch?

    Funcom,

                   You are incredible.

  • KerithKerith Member UncommonPosts: 104

    They just announced the expansion -- nothing was said about it's content.You should click on the link at least before giving a comment.

  • courtsdadcourtsdad Member Posts: 326
    Originally posted by Kerith


    They just announced the expansion -- nothing was said about it's content.You should click on the link at least before giving a comment.



     

    Yes they did. In the interview they mention things that they wanted to be in the game but couldnt get them done in time so they will more than likely  be in the expansion.

     

    "There's definitely a lot, there's a lot that we really wanted to get into the game, but because of time we just weren't able to put it in"

  • NodaedNodaed Member Posts: 31
    Originally posted by Kerith


    They just announced the expansion -- nothing was said about it's content.You should click on the link at least before giving a comment.

    Its pretty obvious what is going on.  Lets look at it this way.

    a)  FC have now 20 workers + creating a TOTALLY new content for the game.  At the same time the game is lacking alot of +55 content that is needed right now into the game. 

    b)  FC now have 20 + workers getting the 55+ content and sieges and all the other issues in the endgame content ready for a new expansion.  In the meantime they are fixing up the huge bugs and balance problems that are all over the game at this point. 

    Have you seen any new content added to the game past 2 months ?

    Now let me tell you this.  I have played MMOs for a long time and small companies like FC usually go for the expansions instead of free content patches.  Who cares if the content is what should have been in the game at launch?  PPL were already fooled into buying it anway without that content.   You just wait and see in about 2 weeks time when the PR ppl from FC will come out talking about "We are adding so much new stuff into the game that we have to ship it out on a CD"!

    THe scenario is obvious from a marketing point of view.  And thats the only thing FC cares aobut.  PC players will pay for the expansion and soon after the Xbox version will be coming with full content of orginal game and the expansion.    This is how FC can make the most money out of the game and agian - this is the ONLY thing they are trying to do.  IT has NOTHING to do with gamers.

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by Kerith


    They just announced the expansion -- nothing was said about it's content.You should click on the link at least before giving a comment.



     

    Your posting history gives away your rabid zealotry for all that is AOC. So that being said, nothing I have to say about AOC will be heard by the likes of you, because its all negative.

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by courtsdad

    Yes they did. In the interview they mention things that they wanted to be in the game but couldnt get them done in time so they will more than likely  be in the expansion.
     
    "There's definitely a lot, there's a lot that we really wanted to get into the game, but because of time we just weren't able to put it in"

    you are quoting out of context - what you quoted is not about the expansion

     

    in most of the interview he is discussing summer and Fall plans from this newsletter

    community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi

     

    this is the only thing he said about the expansion - last question asked in in the interview

    www.massively.com/2008/07/15/e308-erling-ellingsen-talks-patch-timeframes-for-age-of-conan/

    We know you folks were thinking of expansion content before the game came out. When do you expect you'll be able to put the launch behind you and step up to the new content, enjoy the live game?



    I don't think that's ever going to happen. We're gonna keep on going really strongly. Updating the game, patching it, making it better. The road map we have internally is long into the future. We're definitely going to be patching and improving. We're of course working on an expansion, though we're not really ready to talk about that now. We do think it will launch early next year, though. We'll start leaking more information about that soon, though.

     

  • NodaedNodaed Member Posts: 31
    Originally posted by Nadia

    Originally posted by courtsdad

    Yes they did. In the interview they mention things that they wanted to be in the game but couldnt get them done in time so they will more than likely  be in the expansion.
     
    "There's definitely a lot, there's a lot that we really wanted to get into the game, but because of time we just weren't able to put it in"

    you are quoting out of context - what you quoted is not about the expansion

     

    in most of the interview he is discussing summer and Fall plans from this newsletter

    community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi

     

    this is the only thing he said about the expansion - last question asked in in the interview

    www.massively.com/2008/07/15/e308-erling-ellingsen-talks-patch-timeframes-for-age-of-conan/

    We know you folks were thinking of expansion content before the game came out. When do you expect you'll be able to put the launch behind you and step up to the new content, enjoy the live game?



    I don't think that's ever going to happen. We're gonna keep on going really strongly. Updating the game, patching it, making it better. The road map we have internally is long into the future. We're definitely going to be patching and improving. We're of course working on an expansion, though we're not really ready to talk about that now. We do think it will launch early next year, though. We'll start leaking more information about that soon, though.

     

    How naive are you ?  Where is the talk about patching the CONTENT into the current game ?  There is talk about things like Ymir's pass but you also might remember the talk about PVP system launching in june.  Get a clue on whats going on.   

     

    Or maybe ask yourself.  Early 2009 is what ?... 8 monts away at most ?   How much NEW content you think they have now if the content they are ALREADY working on is falling 2-3 months behind schedual at this point ?  

    How much CONTENT has been added to game from release ?  NONE whatsoever.  What is the priortiy of FC atm ?  Bugi fixing and balance.   And yet they talk about expansion... launching in 8 months. 

    Again - get a clue about what the MMO buisness is about.  Milk money and give them as little as you possibly can.  Thats FC motto.

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    I agree with you that Funcom hasnt delivered yet

    but its only midsummer ---- and that newsletter covers the 6 months

     

    you act like Funcom won't do anything but bugfixes until next year

  • NodaedNodaed Member Posts: 31
    Originally posted by Nadia


    I agree with you that Funcom hasnt delivered yet
    but its only midsummer ---- and that newsletter covers the 6 months
     
    you act like Funcom won't do anything but bugfixes until next year



     

    Considering they have not done anything else for the past 2 monhs and it still leaves us with trails of new bugs and new issues - I can be pretty save in saying this is all we will be getting.   Many of the core mecanic systems in the game are more broken now than what they were at launch.   And balance is none exixting.

    Next 2-3 patches will have almost zero issues resolved.  They will just be put in for show.  And yes.  Thats one more month gone.

    And one more thing.  THe PI team is now talking about 2 groups of devs working on diffrent things.  Really?  How about they get their 10000% effor t into fixing the CURRENT game before even putting one single person of their team working on future parts?  Havn't they screwed enough ppl  already with the crap launch they had ?   Really  - its so freaking obvious what is going on?

  • arctarusarctarus Member UncommonPosts: 2,581
    I don't think that's ever going to happen. We're gonna keep on going really strongly. Updating the game, patching it, making it better. The road map we have internally is long into the future. We're definitely going to be patching and improving. We're of course working on an expansion, though we're not really ready to talk about that now. We do think it will launch early next year, though. We'll start leaking more information about that soon, though.
     

     

    Early next year, i think its still too early to justified for an expansion. Hope they dont go own the road of soe, with so much expansion for eq and eq2....

    RIP Orc Choppa

  • KerithKerith Member UncommonPosts: 104
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Kerith


    They just announced the expansion -- nothing was said about it's content.You should click on the link at least before giving a comment.



     

    Your posting history gives away your rabid zealotry for all that is AOC. So that being said, nothing I have to say about AOC will be heard by the likes of you, because its all negative.

     

    Rabid zealotry? I would say I am pretty open to most of the games which are discussed here, since every game has at least something which is worth a look.

    If you can say only negative things about AoC, maybe you should think about who the Zealot really is?

     

  • KerithKerith Member UncommonPosts: 104
    Originally posted by courtsdad

    Originally posted by Kerith


    They just announced the expansion -- nothing was said about it's content.You should click on the link at least before giving a comment.



     

    Yes they did. In the interview they mention things that they wanted to be in the game but couldnt get them done in time so they will more than likely  be in the expansion.

     

    "There's definitely a lot, there's a lot that we really wanted to get into the game, but because of time we just weren't able to put it in"

     

    that's what you think. Not what he was saying. He was answering a question about content they cut out, he is saying that they are working on it.

    Not one word is spoken about the expansion in the whole interview.

     

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    ROFL this is just too much Well if you can't fix the game and sell subscriptions you can always try and sell boxes I guess Problem is I doubt they will have 5K people left playing by that time who will give a crap about any "expansion" LOL. I mean how many units did AO's expansion sell?

    In other news Turbine just announced book 14 will launch Tuesday, lets see that was 5 since launch and while some may argue that all that stuff could have or should have been in at launch, at least Turbine did not charge a dime for any of the 5.

    I miss DAoC

  • MoretrinketsMoretrinkets Member Posts: 730

    If you want new content, I suggest to play something else or wait for Failcom to release more beta content.

  • FischerBlackFischerBlack Member Posts: 573

    I find it offensive that they are talking about an expansion when they have just fleeced AUD$130 off me.

  • KryzizKryziz Member UncommonPosts: 127

    This company at one time had a good track record, now I will never buy a product from them again, bye bye funcom....

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by Jackdog


    In other news Turbine just announced book 14 will launch Tuesday, lets see that was 5 since launch and while some may argue that all that stuff could have or should have been in at launch, at least Turbine did not charge a dime for any of the 5.


    I agree that Turbine has been great about not charging for any of the books

     

    but after Book 14

    LOTRO can expect 1 paid expansion each year

    www.massively.com/2008/03/14/more-mines-of-moria-information-revealed/

    Annual expansions and quarterly episodic content (Books)

     

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by Nadia


    I agree that Turbine has been great about not charging for any of the books
     
    but after Book 14
    LOTRO can expect 1 paid expansion each year
    -- and books reduced to  4 books each year
    www.massively.com/2008/03/14/more-mines-of-moria-information-revealed/
    Annual expansions and quarterly episodic content (Books)
      

     

    I can live with that. Even SOE has gotten a lot better at adding free content lately. FC just has balls, great old big balls. Now if they just had brains LOL

    I miss DAoC

  • mrguy123mrguy123 Member Posts: 69

    Wow. An expansion already. Failcom really has some nerve.

  • googajoob7googajoob7 Member Posts: 866

    what a farce . it would almost be funny if it was nt for nearly a million people spending money on what is a game that really should still be in its beta testing stage in it current state . if it was any other industry conning people out of 35 million pounds ( fifty million dollars ? ) for a sub standard product would proberbly earn some sort of legal action being leveled against the partys involved , even with mmo which are by thier nature always in an unfinnished state there is a point where they are of merchandisable quality and in its present form conan isnt . the best thing funcom could do is be honest now and make it free to play untill that point is reached . it would proberbly shift more units sold in the shops and actually maintain good will and confidence in the company .

    i do remember a lot of people saying they were happy to pay to play vanguard untill soe sorted it out . which to me is a bizzare arguement . i imagine  the people playing conan now are of the same mindset .

    theres no guarantee this expansion will be a miracle fix for anything .

    my advice  for anyone thinking of trying conan is stay well away for the moment . wait for a free trial or for someone giving away buddie keys .

    so many good idea in this game . what a shame it broken .

  • protorocprotoroc Member Posts: 1,042
    Originally posted by Kryziz


    This company at one time had a good track record, now I will never buy a product from them again, bye bye funcom....

     

    Since when?

    AO Launch - failure, massive bugs

    AO: Shadowlands Launch - failure, half of the zones in SL werent even accessable.

    AO: Alien Invasion Launch- failure, player shops not implemented into game til at least 3 months later

    AO: Lost Eden - IDK, gave up on this game after AI, I'm sure half the features were broken at launch.

    Dreamfall - One of Funcom's best gaming efforts (never played The Longest Journey) was incomplete, all that story to end up with the protagonist in a coma and none of the plot lines concluded.

    Funcom consistantly releases unfinished products, AOC is just par for the course.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Nodaed

    Originally posted by Nadia

    Originally posted by courtsdad

    Yes they did. In the interview they mention things that they wanted to be in the game but couldnt get them done in time so they will more than likely  be in the expansion.
     
    "There's definitely a lot, there's a lot that we really wanted to get into the game, but because of time we just weren't able to put it in"

    you are quoting out of context - what you quoted is not about the expansion

     

    in most of the interview he is discussing summer and Fall plans from this newsletter

    community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi

     

    this is the only thing he said about the expansion - last question asked in in the interview

    www.massively.com/2008/07/15/e308-erling-ellingsen-talks-patch-timeframes-for-age-of-conan/

    We know you folks were thinking of expansion content before the game came out. When do you expect you'll be able to put the launch behind you and step up to the new content, enjoy the live game?



    I don't think that's ever going to happen. We're gonna keep on going really strongly. Updating the game, patching it, making it better. The road map we have internally is long into the future. We're definitely going to be patching and improving. We're of course working on an expansion, though we're not really ready to talk about that now. We do think it will launch early next year, though. We'll start leaking more information about that soon, though.

     

    How naive are you ?  Where is the talk about patching the CONTENT into the current game ?  There is talk about things like Ymir's pass but you also might remember the talk about PVP system launching in june.  Get a clue on whats going on.   

     

    Or maybe ask yourself.  Early 2009 is what ?... 8 monts away at most ?   How much NEW content you think they have now if the content they are ALREADY working on is falling 2-3 months behind schedual at this point ?  

    How much CONTENT has been added to game from release ?  NONE whatsoever.  What is the priortiy of FC atm ?  Bugi fixing and balance.   And yet they talk about expansion... launching in 8 months. 

    Again - get a clue about what the MMO buisness is about.  Milk money and give them as little as you possibly can.  Thats FC motto.

    That's just about every companies motto. How is the post you quoted being naive ? He simply pointed out a flaw in the O.P.s statement.

    In 8 months I would hope the game is in a playable state, if not I'm out $64.99 and nothing more . Which In that 8 months I'm sure that money will be of no importance to me any longer. So I really lose nothing , If FC wants to make an expansion it's no skin off my back . I won't be buying it unless A LOT changes within the core game.

    This really is starting to look more and more like RABID SOE hate though. The only difference is SOE actually deserved it

    I'm not saying FC doesn't deserve any animosity from players. Just that things like rehashed resist mods and expansions aren't all that relevant to the 50$ most spent on this game a few months ago .By the looks of things no matter what they do , Most who complain will never be happy . So why bother beating a dead horse?

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • sassoonsssassoonss Member UncommonPosts: 1,132
    Now this is my take

    I am a current subscriber to this game and honestly I like this game

     

     

    But I am not ready at this stage to accept any crap regarding expansion to be thrown at us.

     

    1) Give us a full game that was promiswed and then talk about expansion

     

    2) Some commenst are right I am paying monthly fee so that the entire team can work towards providing me whatr was promised in this game itself and not in the expansuion

     

    3) Till now what we have got is only bug fixes and balancing issue where is the damn content we paid for

     

    4) Brawling .None

     

    5) Battle seiges .In tatters

     

    6) Mini PVP . well its mini

     

    7) Where is the damn war .No immersion of three lands at war

     

    8) DX10 damn you .I bought a new rig for this game I want dan Dx10 now

     

    9) Fix the world economy

     

    10) Grind based crafting WTF

     

     

    Not all teh hate nor naysayers pissed me off so muchas the work expansion does

     

    How can the bafoons even think about an expansion and that too early 2009 that ridiculous

     

    Guild wars came out with no monthly fee but for them it makes sense to come out with more expansion and campaigns to run there business

     

    Whats going on here

     

    If this is really the case this month would be my last subscription

    Coem sEpt 7 Spore (Woohaha nd end of sept everyone know that)

    Best regards,

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,088
    Originally posted by protoroc

    Originally posted by Kryziz


    This company at one time had a good track record, now I will never buy a product from them again, bye bye funcom....

     

    Since when?

    AO Launch - failure, massive bugs

    AO: Shadowlands Launch - failure, half of the zones in SL werent even accessable.

    AO: Alien Invasion Launch- failure, player shops not implemented into game til at least 3 months later

    AO: Lost Eden - IDK, gave up on this game after AI, I'm sure half the features were broken at launch.

    Dreamfall - One of Funcom's best gaming efforts (never played The Longest Journey) was incomplete, all that story to end up with the protagonist in a coma and none of the plot lines concluded.

    Funcom consistantly releases unfinished products, AOC is just par for the course.

     

    Thanks for sharing, at least this helps explain why people at Funcom have such a different perception of AOC's quality at launch vs most of the people who have played it.

    "Erling Ellingsen: It was a fantastic launch. Technically it was perfect, servers stayed up whole time, billing, logging was great. There were of course a few bugs when we launched, but I think that's true with all MMOs. The game was perfectly playable, polished. It was just the launch that we wanted."

    From their past experience, it was a good launch. You can tell they've not played many other games from launch like the rest of us who view things a bit differently.

    Assuming they are as accurate on their expansion dates as they were for the game's release, we should actually see the next expansion some time around the middle of 2010.

     

     

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  • Originally posted by protoroc

    Originally posted by Kryziz


    This company at one time had a good track record, now I will never buy a product from them again, bye bye funcom....

     

    Since when?

    AO Launch - failure, massive bugs

    AO: Shadowlands Launch - failure, half of the zones in SL werent even accessable.

    AO: Alien Invasion Launch- failure, player shops not implemented into game til at least 3 months later

    AO: Lost Eden - IDK, gave up on this game after AI, I'm sure half the features were broken at launch.

    Dreamfall - One of Funcom's best gaming efforts (never played The Longest Journey) was incomplete, all that story to end up with the protagonist in a coma and none of the plot lines concluded.

    Funcom consistantly releases unfinished products, AOC is just par for the course.



     

    I have seen games end with missing pieces before but the Dreamfall ending is a bundle of loose threads that leaves players with a very bad and bitter taste. The Longest Journey was fantastic and the wait for a sequel seemed worthwhile. But what a major disappointment when it finally came. Although the gameplay was fine and the overall storyline held attention, it seems that the non-ending was developed simply so players would look forward to a few more years of waiting for another sequel. If they had promoted this as part two of three parts, players would have been prepared for the MAJOR let down. SHAME on the developers for this ploy. If it's not a ploy, then what began as a promising plot was brutally destroyed by the end of it all.

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