voted lizard men but keep in mind of Mythic wants to keep things equal they will need to add two races (one for each side) or three (make their own side)....i didn't pick skaven because they are already in the game (as NPCs)
Not sure if they're adding more playable races in any expansion, because as needalife said, they have to be fighting as kind of mortal enemies and they have to tie in with Orks, Chaos, Dark Elves and/or High Elves, Empire, and Dwarves somehow. That's tough. There can be some good PvE stuff added though that involves some of those races, never know.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
The game hasn't even come out yet. and you're talking about expansions? Lol -1
Some folks weren't thrilled with the initial racial choices Mythic went with. Not such a strange topic. But polls like this have been going around these forums for quite some time.... been a while though since I've seen one.
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I really like the idea of playing as an evil dwarf for some reason...I bet GW and Mythic could put something together. Please.
As long as Order gets Ogres. Then we really could have football games in WAR. Ogre/Orc linemen, Human QB's and running backs and Elf/Dark Elf recievers.
Each side can use the opposing dwarves has footballs.
Oh ya, Goblins can be the stinky refs that people beat up on bad calls.
Keep in mind that any race added has to have a logical pairing, since I doubt we will get any shared races across realms. I understand the poll is purely "What you would like" and not "What you think it might be", but I highly doubt Wood Elves will ever be in. Two types of Elves is plenty for now, plus Wood elves are basically neutral and would not side with anyone.
I do not think we will see an additional racial pairing for 2-3 expansions. In the meantime Mythic needs to focus on:
Filling out the missing archetypes in 4 of the existing armies
Add four capital cities (each of which is a huge undertaking, believe me)
Essentially, they need to finish the races they have! I am not saying this content will necessarily be expansion content, but I doubt Mythic is going to rush into doing more racial stuff when it has been shown it takes a long time to do properly.
Remember, this is not like some MMORPGs where you add a race and it can be any existing class, here each race requires (if done fully) four careers, many warring zones, many PQs, and a huge capital city. You basically need to add 33% more game!
I expect the first 1-2 expansions to just add more PvE content, different advancement paths, more gear, more scenarios, etc. Rank will probably never increase.
I really like the idea of playing as an evil dwarf for some reason...I bet GW and Mythic could put something together. Please.
As long as Order gets Ogres. Then we really could have football games in WAR. Ogre/Orc linemen, Human QB's and running backs and Elf/Dark Elf recievers.
Each side can use the opposing dwarves has footballs.
Oh ya, Goblins can be the stinky refs that people beat up on bad calls.
I think Skaven are the next most popular and iconic race in the warhammer world.. any future expansion would have to have them.
I suppose they would fight against Bretonnia.. or perhaps Wood Elves?
Personally I'd like undead.. but who could they fight? Araby?
I dont see Lizardmen or Chaos Dwarfs being strong possibilities.. they dont have obvious opponents and I *think* theyre less popular than other races in the tabletop game..
It was stated a while back that skaven are more of an infestation and it would be hard to implement them as a player race, since they are as much of an threat to destruction as they are to order.
I did a search of these forums on this topic last month and the general consensus for woodelves is they are a xenophobic race and also not likely to actually side with anyone.
Tomb kings/Vampire counts - Too powerful by far!
Maybe Chaos beastmen/centaurs vs Lizardmen would fit somehow I don't know.
Going back to skaven though I personally would love to play as one, it would be nice to see if they can come up with a sound way of implementing them as a player race in the future.
It was stated a while back that skaven are more of an infestation and it would be hard to implement them as a player race, since they are as much of an threat to destruction as they are to order. I did a search of these forums on this topic last month and the general consensus for woodelves is they are a xenophobic race and also not likely to actually side with anyone. Tomb kings/Vampire counts - Too powerful by far! Maybe Chaos beastmen/centaurs vs Lizardmen would fit somehow I don't know. Going back to skaven though I personally would love to play as one, it would be nice to see if they can come up with a sound way of implementing them as a player race in the future.
See, this is where warhammer junkies don't listen when Mythic is talking about lore. They can do anything they want. Just because a race is neutral or hostile to both factions doesn't mean Mythic couldn't make up a storyline for Skaven to join one of the factions.
Mythic stated many times they left the future storyline wide open just for these purposes.
Yeah true, but they have to carve a fine line between what games workshop will allow them to do and what they want to do versus what the gamers expect.
They cannot screw around with the lore too heavily, unlike a certain other fantasy mmorpg.
Yeah true, but they have to carve a fine line between what games workshop will allow them to do and what they want to do versus what the gamers expect. They cannot screw around with the lore too heavily, unlike a certain other fantasy mmorpg.
Trust me if Mythic thinks a certain storyline will progress the game, then Games Workhop will comply.
GW is looking at promoting their stuff with Warhammer just like WoW is doing right now with their card game and what not.
Skaven are already NPCs, but otherwise they would make a great addition to the destruction side... Skaven don't work well with other races, but then again neither do chaos, or orcs, or dark elves.
Lizardmen seem like they would have a VERY different feel to them, but their mages need to be carried around, hard to make that a playable class.
Knights are great, but thats all the brits have going for them. Knights Knights and more Knights, some peasants, a mage or two, and some more knights.
I have a Wood Elf army, I know they play completely different from high elves and dark elves, but 2 elf armies are enough. They could do amazing things with a Wood Elf capitol city, Orion and Ariel would make an amazing double-king encounter at the end of a siege, and the art style would bring even more diversity to the game.
but 2 elf races are enough, we won't be seeing another.
Chaos dwarfs were removed from the table top game for awhile if I remember correctly, they just weren't popular, or balanced, or... something. I doubt we'll see them anytime soon, and their goofy hats.
just my thoughts.
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I'd prefer undead, but then I always prefer undead. Of course, what to balance them with is the question. If they did put undead in, you certainly wouldn't be playing as a Vampire Count or anything. Maybe vampire thralls, since they're about hero level power. You could even make each of their four classes a different type of undead, like vampire or shade or whatever.
The Skaven/Lizardmen idea seems easier to me, since they are often paired against each other. They could specifically do the Host of Sotek vs. Clan Pestilens. Just crazy brainstorming off the top of my head:
Lizardmen:
Tank: Saurus temple guard (lots of heavy armor and big weapons)
Melee DPS: Saurus...I don't know, Saurus with large Aztec weapons that hit hard.
Ranged DPS: Some kind of skink, lots of sneakiness and poison and blowgun nastiness
Support: Skink Heavens mage, reading portents and such
Pestilens:
Tank: Some kind of festering nasty Stormvermin
Melee DPS: Plague monk
Ranged DPS: Rat breeder, uses swarms of diseased rats as spells, maybe a few rabid giant rats as pets
Support: Plague Priest...not the normal melee one, one of those casters from the Lustria list
The big hint dropped by Paul was Skavens way back when before the first delay was issued by Mythic. Things might of change but I don't see why they would not have Skavens as the first race they add into the game post-launch. As to who to pair up against Skavens? Lizard skins is the most obvious of and popular choices which does not invovle "Yet another elf/human race." and which is very iconic and different.
At the end of the video in this link is where Paul drops the big hint.
I've always wanted to play a char riding a horse and charging the enemies with a spear.
Of course that doesn't necessarily mean that they must implement mount combat for all races, just like the magus flies on a disc of tzeench, the bretonian should start riding a horse, and maybe since it has all heavy armor on it, it can't outrun other players. Or it might be a little bit faster, but harder to turn around and very clumpsy if moving backwards...
Well that's just me dreaming... I've also always wanted some kind of class that is a mix between Diablo 2 Amazon and a Spartan from 300. You know, fighting with a spear and a shield, and having skills to throw it. I have to see one yet.
Vampire Thrall - Hybrid(Melee/Caster) - Toned down version than what is in the rule book. Most likely just a generic type with very impressionable skills in terms of how you level it / what you choose.
Necromancer - Caster - Pretty self explanatory, a must have obviously.
Wraith - Melee DPS - Quite possibly the closest thing to a 'stealth' unit, physically frail, however an ability to go ethereal temporarily could have some tactical benefit.
Blood Knight - Melee Tank - Pretty much the only other unit bar banshees that have free will. Either this or have two types of vampire, or just cut a fourth class all together and make vampires -very- custom (however, not overpowered)
Also, a side note on the Skaven, even though they are huge rats, their natural life span is still next to nothing, but this is more nit-picking than anything else.
Side note :- With a few plot devices, broken arms and discarded lore books, Vampires could solve the, 'who would skaven fight?' question. 'Get outta mah dang crypt' and whatnot
Which race would you like to see appear first in future content...?
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Undead, no question.
voted lizard men but keep in mind of Mythic wants to keep things equal they will need to add two races (one for each side) or three (make their own side)....i didn't pick skaven because they are already in the game (as NPCs)
and i don't know if lizardmen are yet
Not sure if they're adding more playable races in any expansion, because as needalife said, they have to be fighting as kind of mortal enemies and they have to tie in with Orks, Chaos, Dark Elves and/or High Elves, Empire, and Dwarves somehow. That's tough. There can be some good PvE stuff added though that involves some of those races, never know.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
The game hasn't even come out yet. and you're talking about expansions? Lol -1
Some folks weren't thrilled with the initial racial choices Mythic went with. Not such a strange topic. But polls like this have been going around these forums for quite some time.... been a while though since I've seen one.
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I really like the idea of playing as an evil dwarf for some reason...I bet GW and Mythic could put something together. Please.
As long as Order gets Ogres. Then we really could have football games in WAR. Ogre/Orc linemen, Human QB's and running backs and Elf/Dark Elf recievers.
Each side can use the opposing dwarves has footballs.
Oh ya, Goblins can be the stinky refs that people beat up on bad calls.
Keep in mind that any race added has to have a logical pairing, since I doubt we will get any shared races across realms. I understand the poll is purely "What you would like" and not "What you think it might be", but I highly doubt Wood Elves will ever be in. Two types of Elves is plenty for now, plus Wood elves are basically neutral and would not side with anyone.
I do not think we will see an additional racial pairing for 2-3 expansions. In the meantime Mythic needs to focus on:
Essentially, they need to finish the races they have! I am not saying this content will necessarily be expansion content, but I doubt Mythic is going to rush into doing more racial stuff when it has been shown it takes a long time to do properly.
Remember, this is not like some MMORPGs where you add a race and it can be any existing class, here each race requires (if done fully) four careers, many warring zones, many PQs, and a huge capital city. You basically need to add 33% more game!
I expect the first 1-2 expansions to just add more PvE content, different advancement paths, more gear, more scenarios, etc. Rank will probably never increase.
As long as Order gets Ogres. Then we really could have football games in WAR. Ogre/Orc linemen, Human QB's and running backs and Elf/Dark Elf recievers.
Each side can use the opposing dwarves has footballs.
Oh ya, Goblins can be the stinky refs that people beat up on bad calls.
Hell yeah, Bloodbowl would be sweet! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodbowl
Skaven and Slann.
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I think Skaven are the next most popular and iconic race in the warhammer world.. any future expansion would have to have them.
I suppose they would fight against Bretonnia.. or perhaps Wood Elves?
Personally I'd like undead.. but who could they fight? Araby?
I dont see Lizardmen or Chaos Dwarfs being strong possibilities.. they dont have obvious opponents and I *think* theyre less popular than other races in the tabletop game..
It was stated a while back that skaven are more of an infestation and it would be hard to implement them as a player race, since they are as much of an threat to destruction as they are to order.
I did a search of these forums on this topic last month and the general consensus for woodelves is they are a xenophobic race and also not likely to actually side with anyone.
Tomb kings/Vampire counts - Too powerful by far!
Maybe Chaos beastmen/centaurs vs Lizardmen would fit somehow I don't know.
Going back to skaven though I personally would love to play as one, it would be nice to see if they can come up with a sound way of implementing them as a player race in the future.
See, this is where warhammer junkies don't listen when Mythic is talking about lore. They can do anything they want. Just because a race is neutral or hostile to both factions doesn't mean Mythic couldn't make up a storyline for Skaven to join one of the factions.
Mythic stated many times they left the future storyline wide open just for these purposes.
Yeah true, but they have to carve a fine line between what games workshop will allow them to do and what they want to do versus what the gamers expect.
They cannot screw around with the lore too heavily, unlike a certain other fantasy mmorpg.
Trust me if Mythic thinks a certain storyline will progress the game, then Games Workhop will comply.
GW is looking at promoting their stuff with Warhammer just like WoW is doing right now with their card game and what not.
SKAVEN !!!!!!
Sorry .... I got excited at the thought of them in WAR ... hehe
Skaven are already NPCs, but otherwise they would make a great addition to the destruction side... Skaven don't work well with other races, but then again neither do chaos, or orcs, or dark elves.
Lizardmen seem like they would have a VERY different feel to them, but their mages need to be carried around, hard to make that a playable class.
Knights are great, but thats all the brits have going for them. Knights Knights and more Knights, some peasants, a mage or two, and some more knights.
I have a Wood Elf army, I know they play completely different from high elves and dark elves, but 2 elf armies are enough. They could do amazing things with a Wood Elf capitol city, Orion and Ariel would make an amazing double-king encounter at the end of a siege, and the art style would bring even more diversity to the game.
but 2 elf races are enough, we won't be seeing another.
Chaos dwarfs were removed from the table top game for awhile if I remember correctly, they just weren't popular, or balanced, or... something. I doubt we'll see them anytime soon, and their goofy hats.
just my thoughts.
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I have heard rumors that they want to add Skaven Vs. Lizard Men for their first expansion, or at least the first expansion with a new front.
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I'd prefer undead, but then I always prefer undead. Of course, what to balance them with is the question. If they did put undead in, you certainly wouldn't be playing as a Vampire Count or anything. Maybe vampire thralls, since they're about hero level power. You could even make each of their four classes a different type of undead, like vampire or shade or whatever.
The Skaven/Lizardmen idea seems easier to me, since they are often paired against each other. They could specifically do the Host of Sotek vs. Clan Pestilens. Just crazy brainstorming off the top of my head:
Lizardmen:
Tank: Saurus temple guard (lots of heavy armor and big weapons)
Melee DPS: Saurus...I don't know, Saurus with large Aztec weapons that hit hard.
Ranged DPS: Some kind of skink, lots of sneakiness and poison and blowgun nastiness
Support: Skink Heavens mage, reading portents and such
Pestilens:
Tank: Some kind of festering nasty Stormvermin
Melee DPS: Plague monk
Ranged DPS: Rat breeder, uses swarms of diseased rats as spells, maybe a few rabid giant rats as pets
Support: Plague Priest...not the normal melee one, one of those casters from the Lustria list
Meh, just thinking crazy thoughts.
well for the skaven it doesn't even be the whole race since they're separated into clans it could just be one clan that joins destruction
The big hint dropped by Paul was Skavens way back when before the first delay was issued by Mythic. Things might of change but I don't see why they would not have Skavens as the first race they add into the game post-launch. As to who to pair up against Skavens? Lizard skins is the most obvious of and popular choices which does not invovle "Yet another elf/human race." and which is very iconic and different.
At the end of the video in this link is where Paul drops the big hint.
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I'd love to see Bretonians!
I've always wanted to play a char riding a horse and charging the enemies with a spear.
Of course that doesn't necessarily mean that they must implement mount combat for all races, just like the magus flies on a disc of tzeench, the bretonian should start riding a horse, and maybe since it has all heavy armor on it, it can't outrun other players. Or it might be a little bit faster, but harder to turn around and very clumpsy if moving backwards...
Well that's just me dreaming... I've also always wanted some kind of class that is a mix between Diablo 2 Amazon and a Spartan from 300. You know, fighting with a spear and a shield, and having skills to throw it. I have to see one yet.
Vampire Counts - Destruction (Prestige race, perhaps?)
Vampire Thrall - Hybrid(Melee/Caster) - Toned down version than what is in the rule book. Most likely just a generic type with very impressionable skills in terms of how you level it / what you choose.
Necromancer - Caster - Pretty self explanatory, a must have obviously.
Wraith - Melee DPS - Quite possibly the closest thing to a 'stealth' unit, physically frail, however an ability to go ethereal temporarily could have some tactical benefit.
Blood Knight - Melee Tank - Pretty much the only other unit bar banshees that have free will. Either this or have two types of vampire, or just cut a fourth class all together and make vampires -very- custom (however, not overpowered)
Also, a side note on the Skaven, even though they are huge rats, their natural life span is still next to nothing, but this is more nit-picking than anything else.
Side note :- With a few plot devices, broken arms and discarded lore books, Vampires could solve the, 'who would skaven fight?' question. 'Get outta mah dang crypt' and whatnot
Oh oh oh! I Know what about we do something really crazy like see what the game actually plays like on release before we start wishing for future game content which may or may not ever make it out?
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