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Ok, enough - I am turning my back on MMORPG.com, it has degenerated too far
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I only play a MMO for a few months (1, 2.. ) so wellcome to my world. I often never play to the high level, and change to other game, somethimes a singleplayer game, or something else.
But mmos has something: people, that is something you miss in singleplayer games or reading books.
I think that's the first time I've read a "I'm quitting" forum post directed at quitting a forum within an MMORPG site.
With that said, can I have your stuff?
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
We must be thinking of two entirely different sites then.
Yes..it would be quite pointles if someone like you would post "I am quiting"
...
But when outstanding community member like Elkial says he is quitting. Somebody who wrote more constructive posts text, than some of gamers here read in their whole life (including school material)
Than it is a sad day , and a loss for community as whole ...
I"m quitting the internets!
Pretty much :
I love the idea of MMORPG's, but after all these years I've yet to find a game which I love.
You can love a pet, you can love a person, you can love your country, or God himself.
But games are not objects of love. Games are to be played, to be enjoyed for the fun that they offer, and then discarded in favor of the next one.
But back on topic. Perhaps that's why these forums get so angry and mean sometimes. Because people do associate too much passion with games, and make it all too personal.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Greetings Elikal and all,
I know the forums can get a bit... yeah... We're working on that though. I know I just came on board, but I already have several ideas on community building and forum improvement. Will they work? Maybe, maybe not. Hopefully. First of all in the near future I'll be greatly increasing the moderator pool. Beyond that, it's a surprise.
One thing though I've definitely noticed in my time back. A lot of the forum reform is going to have to start with you guys. Use the Report Post tool, which a LOT of you do, if you see someone flaming, trolling, just being a general asshat, etc.
Now, granted, a lot of you do report those posts, and that's great... The problem comes when after you report them for some reason you feel the need to reply to them with something like "HAHAHA!!! I just reported your dumbass troll bastard self!!!" At which point you've sunk to their level, they'll report your post as well, and you'll receive a warning/bad just like the other.
Best policy, don't feed the trolls, report the post and move on.
If you have any questions or concerns about the forums, please don't hesitate to send em my way at community@mmorpg.com.
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Pretty much :
I love the idea of MMORPG's, but after all these years I've yet to find a game which I love.
You can love a pet, you can love a person, you can love your country, or God himself.
But games are not objects of love.
If you are allowed to love a country, I don't see why you aren't not allowed to love a game, or a forum.
Most games are likeable, and you can be proud of then. Like most people seems proud of WoW, and like stuff like the "I AM MURLOC".
Is about how something make you feel.
Once people will start to make humanoids robots ready to make sex (sexbots), I bet some people will fall in love with then. Much like the main character in Chobits.
Yes..it would be quite pointles if someone like you would post "I am quiting"
...
But when outstanding community member like Elkial says he is quitting. Somebody who wrote more constructive posts text, than some of gamers here read in their whole life (including school material)
Than it is a sad day , and a loss for community as whole ...
Get over yourself.
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
Pretty much :
I love the idea of MMORPG's, but after all these years I've yet to find a game which I love.
You can love a pet, you can love a person, you can love your country, or God himself.
But games are not objects of love.
If you are allowed to love a country, I don't see why you aren't not allowed to love a game, or a forum.
Most games are likeable, and you can be proud of then. Like most people seems proud of WoW, and like stuff like the "I AM MURLOC".
Is about how something make you feel.
Once people will start to make humanoids robots ready to make sex (sexbots), I bet some people will fall in love with then. Much like the main character in Chobits.
Yes and some people loves cars and other items that doesn't return your affection.
Well, I think what we have here is really about computer technology in general. As computers and the technology that goes with it, come down in price, more people have access to this technology. This has now spilled over to the computer gaming world, which was usually the domain of the more geek-ish or technological person.
Combine that, with the success that WoW had in bringing computer gaming into the main stream, Wal-Mart selling cheap computers that could run that said game. We've end up with a flood of new gamers who are now bored and looking for something new to try. So where do they go for advice and information, here of course.
It's just too bad, that with this influx of new people, we also end up with immature, disrespectful, ignorant and sometimes just plain stupid people. And it's not just this site, but almost any web site you visit you see them.
Sorry to say, just like real life.
A simple rule to remember, people are people and that's all there is to it. A few things to keep in mind, forums of any kind provides a captive audience, which makes for a great breeding ground for people to express their ideas under the safety of the internet. In other words while on the net people feel a sense of anonymity. Like alcohol, anonymity can be the elixir of self-doubt and inhibition.
While online people can take on any persona they like, however your words and how you articulate them can give you away. With a little experience you can determine who is objective, subjective, absurd and irrational. These 'perspectives' can vary from any number of ideological, cultural, political or philosophical beliefs.
The best rule of thumb while on the net or in real life is simply to be yourself. The internet is a wonderful invention that brings a lot of people together, but like anything else it has the potential to bring out the worst in people. You can't let the few ruin it for the many.
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Yea most people just attack the person writing instead of the idea. I have been attacked a bunch of times. Its childish and pointless. I mean what kind of person goes out of his free time to get on a computer to make fun of someone online? Someone who has nothing better to do. All I gotta say is either talk about the topic or don't bother posting. If you post something that attacks the writer you are lowering yourself to all the trolls and 12 yr olds level in these forums. You are no better.
The way we react to things is highly subjective. For example; in this thread I got a laugh from Puuk's "can I have your stuff" comment while Lobotomist apparantly found it to be in poor taste. Maybe I'm just easily amused.
But at the same time I tend to agree with what Lobotomist said earlier.
My big problem in relation to these forums is that I'm running out of things to say. In fact, everything I really want to say about MMORPGs I've already said at least 50 times. With mmorpgs so stagnate and actually devolving instead of evolving, what the heck are we supposed to talk about? Is it any wonder that we get bitchy and turn on each other?
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"There's a new game in development"
"Is it the same ol' crap again"
"Yes, but with even less of a persistant world and even more linear and even more dumbed down."
"....woot...?"
"God this sucks"
"U suck!"
"No, your mother sucks me"
"...I'm so bored..."
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If personal attacks are increasing on these boards I think in large part it's a symptom of our frustration with the industry.
But trolls need to eat too. Honestly, I've never understood why people get worked up about posts they don't like. If you don't like it don't read it, or stop reading it when you discover you don't like it. And don't bump it.
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Honestly Elikal, ive read your posts for over a year now, and you are way too sensitive and take things far too seriously with regards to MMO's. I think leaving this forum will be good for your health.
There are some good mmos out there, it's just that some players are overly critical and fickle. Some of you will NEVER be happy with ANY future mmo. You should do us a favor and take up another hobby so the rest of us can enjoy ours.
kthnx.
Don't give up so easily Lobo, once something hits rock bottom the only other direction is up, right?
I respect people like you. *Salutes*
Yea, the crowd can be a bit rough a lot of the time, but the way you pointed it out hit the nail on the head. Some people choose to deal with it, and some don't. There's nothing wrong with taking a stand about anything you feel strongly about. You've put your "time" in brotha, keep it real. Maybe find something a little less laid back than here that will give you what you need
+5
Ah.. this is the crux of it!
I agree.
Elikal, you seem like a nice person and I have no doubt we could sit and have a beer and just "shoot the shit". However you are way to sensitive, your expectations are a bit too high in some cases and you don't seem to get that gaming forums tend to run the spectrum of people, good, bad, smart, dumb, and what have you.
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OP, I don't know if you're still reading this, but I want to run with what Kunou said.
Why leave when you want to see things shaping up? Leaving isn't going to help or fix anything. You've obviously put some time into posting here, so why just drop it all?
Instead, I think you should stay and help monitor the boards on your own time. It will let you read things, some of which can be very good, and if you see trolls or people being nasty, all you have to do is report them and go on your way. Trust me when I say that some people are exceptionally dense and nothing you say will ever get through. In those cases, just not wasting your breath and clicking to report them is the best thing.
Plus, the response time to getting reported posts pulled down is really fast
So instead of leaving, how about helping to clean things up?
Good luck bro,
Cya
Guess your last thread in the WAR forum was the last straw that made you take this decision. I will really miss your posts, if you really leave. I hope you will reconsider your decision. You are one of the very few that put some thought on what they write.
People on WAR forum are very fanatic about the game, mostly are ex DAoC players and they just *worship* Mythic, so any slight criticism is taken as a personal attack and they scream troll at the top of their lungs
The asnswer is simple. These games used to appeal to a more mature audience, now they appeal to a younger audience.
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I always thought your posts about AoC were pretty spot on. Despite a large force of AoC fanboys you kept at it and in the end, were proven right along with everyone else about the real sorry state of the game. Since then though you seem to have changed, probably just got burned one too many times with bad mmos, and you are overly critical and jumping the gun on everything else without a real valid reason. You are stuck in that AoC mindset. People naturally react to you being overly critical and instead of looking to yourself for fault, you put all of mmorpg.com to blame for the reaction.
A break would do you good to get back to where you were, giving things a fair chance and waiting for evidence before crucifying it.
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