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Building Computer, Suggestions wanted!
Ok i have some parts picked out for my Pc that i am building. This is going to be my first pc that i have built on my own so if you have any suggestions please help me out. I am trying at all costs to keep this thing under $1,000. I am unsure if the Case and PSU are good or not, i have searched and searched but i still am unsure but here she is:
Operating System www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
CPU www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
MotherBoard www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
Video Card www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
RAM www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
Hard Drive www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
Optical Drive www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
Power Supply www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
Computer Case / Chasis www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
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Way better video card for only $20 more
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
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i would prefer to stick with the Nvidia and Intel path. And XfX has always had great costumer service from what i have heard from.
Currently Playing: Guild Wars.
Played:Guild Wars, Dungeon Runners, WoW, WC3, Starcraft, RuneScape, Wurm.
Not sure, but i think the quad-cores are still down around $199. I have mine at a stable, on air OC at 3.8gHz (stock 2.4gHz). Mind you, I have one of those huge thermaltake heatsinks, but they aren't too bad either.
That, and I'd go with an XFX mobo. Decent chance of it being DOA, but the bios is awesome for said overclocking. (and what is a custom built rig without OC?) ASUS is still one of the best for motherboards, however.
As for the case, I'd try to find something with either a removable hard drive cage, or one that you mount the hard drives 90 degrees to what they are with that one. Mostly cause the 8800 is a big card, and you might have clearance issues. that, and it's a helluva lot easier to plug cables in, unless you got real small fingers.
I used to be an AMD/ATI fan, but Intel defiantly has the upper hand in terms of multi-core processors, and I am in love with my 2x 8600GT's (got 'em for 60 bucks a piece, can't go wrong with that).
Heres a few suggestions I'd like to make. I'm a fan of certain makes of parts so lol.
Vista 64, thats fine and all if you "know" how to work vista. And you "know" everything you have for your computer will work with vista. Yes, vista 64 will recognize 16gb of physical ram, but if thats the only reason, its pointless. Vista has Dx10 but is it worth it with so few games actually using it? Windows XP is entirely better for gamers right now. If you want to view all of your 4gb go 64bit, but tbh, in 32bit it still sees 3.25gb. And it will never use that up. So the 4gb will never be used, but it can be used if needed.
The only way I would go with 64bit is if I was going with a quad core. I have 64bit XP for that reason. A Quad core requires a 64bit OS to utilize every aspect of the quad core to maximize performance. Sure, it will work on 32bit, but you will not get as much performance out of it as would a 64bit OS.
Your motherboard is fine.
Videocard is fine, its better than that ATI that someone "claims" is way better. Sorry to say, the 8800GTS is still the best card out there imo.
RAM: Go with Muskin. Corsair is not what they used to be. They started making just about everything and stopped focusing on RAM. Corsair is no longer a leading RAM producer. MUSKIN is what Corsair used to be. It is very, very good ram, and it doesn't cost very much more if anymore than the ram you listed.
Power Supply: Go with an OCZ PSU. They have great products and very unlikely to fail on you anytime soon. Very good quality on their power supplies.
As for your Hard Drive. I suggest getting a 32~40gb 10,000RPM HD for your OS alone. Only install your OS on it, install everything else onto your 300gb HD you listed. You may have to do some searching, Newegg doesn't have one right now thats around 30~40gb. I got mine there so IDK. But this will increase performance a ton due to the access time to files on your OS being very quick @ 10,000RPM and no files except your OS files being on that HD.
As for your case. Just make sure it meets the heating requirements you will need. You are getting a high end videocard. Keep in mind they produce a lot of heat. Make sure you get proper cooling for your case. Pickup some Zalman fans. I recommend a Zalman heatsink for your CPU at the very least. Its very large, but it isnt loud at all. Keeps your cpu very cool.
That PC is a perfect entry level gaming system, it will run all your games at high settings flawlessly. Enjoy.
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I only read the Topic so I'm not too sure what your looking to spend.
I will tell you this though.
I just bought a Gateway FX Notebook from Best Buy. It was $1,400 bucks. Probably 1,200 by now.
I can run AOC & Vanguard - Completely BALLS OUT! I have never had a problem with either game.
Both of these games are notorious system killers, they are BEASTS!
I can't recomend this computer enough. Plus It's a damn Lap top! I play in my damn recliner! Take it whereever I go, bad ass!
I doubt AoC balls out...
What are the system specs on your laptop?
I doubt AoC balls out...
What are the system specs on your laptop?
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T5550 @1.83GHz
4.0 GB
64 Bit Operating System
NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS
I don't know what any of this means but I jumped into the options - Set it Max Quality , Max View Distance and all that shit. Run it at 1440 x 900 Balls out. I'm not brag'n, I'm just recomending the Computer to the kid.
If I told you what I had for a system, you'd shit bricks.
The best thing I can say is, if you can afford to, get Intel/Nvidia. If you want a good system, but low on cash, AMD/ATI is a good route.
So much wrong there it's scary. Horrible, horrible advice
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So much wrong there it's scary. Horrible, horrible advice
Unless you have proof don't make false accusations.
So much wrong there it's scary. Horrible, horrible advice
Unless you have proof don't make false accusations.
Lol. You might be correct about the RAM... but 8800GTS the best card? Are you living in a cave?
My 280 from Nvidia runs circles, yards and miles around the 8800GTS. Lol. I love having 4GB of DDR3 RAM and my quad-core...
Oh wait... I'll never use any of that, foolish me! LOL!
The 8800GTS Alpha dog from XFX is still the best card out there. It has the best performance for the buck hands down.
What's your 3dMark on that card?
Right now video card performance goes G280, HD4870, G260, HD4850, Geforce 9800+, Geforce 8800 Ultra>GTX>GTS>GT, HD3870, Geforce 9600.
The HD4870 performs near or sometimes above the level of the g280, however overall its slightly less performance. It also costs considerably less and has a better future architecture as well as performs better on Intel and AMD northbridges. The 4870 performs about 50% better then the 8800GTS. The 4850 performs about 30% better.
On 64-bit OS. The view is scewed. 1st XP64-bit is crap. Games that support 64-bit will perform better then on 32-bit because it processes alot more information at a time. The 16GB limit on 64-bit OSes is actually artificial, it can support up to 16EB. DX10 exclusive games are coming, games in the last year have hit the wall on DX9.0c's limitations and the only way to make better games now is to make them for DX10. With a little know how you can get the negative performance impact of Vista not to affect gaming performance. Infact its really simple. 2 HDD, 1 for OS and the other of Apps; 4GB ram; and a dual core or better CPU. The best vista package in my opinion is Vista Home Premium 64-bit. It comes with a nice set of extras, but doesn't come at the Ultras pricepoint. I would not recommend a 32-bit vista package or a Vista Home Basic package due to thier limitations.
Out of the build, I don't recommend the motherboard, video card, or case. You can get a far better performing video card for the same price. The case has poor airflow, and the medium size will create more heat then a full tower (The case is priced the same as an entry level Full Tower).
Optimally, you should wait until September to buy a new board considering Nahelhiem is pretty much a complete shift in architecture. This means a new board design. If you do buy a board, I recommend a P45 with a Intel ICH10R southbridge, and supports a 1600 mhz FSB. You can find boards costing the same in this price range.
At the price you are paying for the videocard, there is no reason not to go with an HD4850 which will perform 30~50% better then the 8800GT.
Around 18-19k.
I suppose my OS class is wrong, and so is Microsoft.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx
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128 GB
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128 GB
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16 GB
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As for the Videocards. List the price for each. Read what I said.
The Vista is still very unstable with a lot of games and a lot of programs. If you run a lot of old programs and hardware like myself, Vista isnt a smart choice. Any tech will tell you that. Until there are actually games that use Dx10 and not "promise" Dx10, it really isnt worth it unless you want to stretch your E-peen by saying you have 16gb of ram. I have and use vista on my laptop and I work with it fine. But it is very unstable with many apps. Its just the truth. Hence: why I said to know what its capable of before buying.
Around 18-19k.
Mine is 16k and some change. W/8800GTS.
Not too bad.
Like I said, the 8800gts is a good card and at the price its the best imo. And its only going to get better as newer cards come out, the price will drop even more. I can run any game on the market at max without any fall downs. The newer cards that "perform" better than the 8800gts (which you really can't tell) are for bragging rights. Seriously.
But, to each his own.
Of course they are. But I wanted to treat myself... I also play on a 24" monitor. So I needed the extra horse power.
I play on a 27inch HD Widescreen lol. One card is fine for me =P.
I only have one videocard as well.
I built basically the same set-up as you have listed about a year ago. So, here are my suggestions;
1. If you go with this case, make sure your PSU has a horizontal flow through fan design. There is hardly any head room above where the PSU mounts on this case, also, a horizontal air flow design will help to push more heat out of the case and it is positioned right above the CPU. The top fan is blowing into the case, which will be sucked up by the PSU, so no worry about all the hot air flowing through the unit.
2. Anyone who has installed any Windows OS, can install Vista 64. I've had/have very few problems with my installed copy and running games. I had few driver problems at first but these have been fixed with updates now.
3. The mobo's PCIeX16 slots are real close together. The card you listed will work in SLI mode when or if you get a second one. But, if you want to use 2 cards that use the extra cooling that takes up a slot, you won't be able to use SLI.
4. I'd also install some sort of CPU cooler. I installed a Freezer Pro 7 on mine, and for about $40, gave me that extra peace of mind.
5. I haven't had any problems yet with heat, but I am thinking about, maybe, installing two 80s on bottom front of the case.
Good luck with your build.
The XFX 8800GTS sells for $224. The lowest price G92 8800GTS sells for $174. The lowest price HD4850 sells for $179. You are paying $5 more for a 30% performance increase.
I cannot find enough reviews for the HD4850 to compare.
You can pickup a XFX 8800GT Alpha Dog XXX edition for $150. And its 3dmark 06 on a test rig is 13k.