How about the new preformance laptops?

gurkburk

Im so close to buying myself a new laptop, wanto replace desktop+laptop so I dont hafto keep hassling with 2 machines (annoying and takes space).

Now that Montevina and nvidia's 9800M-models are out, I suppose its closer then ever for having a "gaming" laptop (with the exception of a 17" 10kg sli-laptop, which is just a movable desktop :-p).

Currently ive "decided" for a sager/clevo model via kobalt, m860. Specs:

• Core2Duo P9500 2.53(or T9600 2.8GHz, doubt there is that big a difference here, though 100£ extra)
• 4GB DDR3 to match the FSB
• 9800M GT 512MB DDR3
• 7200RPM/16MB cache 320GB Disk (think its a scorpio)

The rest of the speccs feels a bit unimportant since it doesnt really affect the gamingpreformance, will run linux on it but have a small vista-installation for gaming.

Anyone got experiences with late 2007/2008-game engines on a similiar rig?

There has been 17" out for a while that should equal the above in pure technical specifications...

CleffyII

I am sure the laptop manufacturer is happy you want to sacrafice performance and cost for portability.  The 9800 series was rather disappointing compared to the 8800 and only has a marginal performance increase from the previous generation.  Worse yet it doesn't even outperform the top range 8800.  This excludes the 9800 GX2 which you won't find in a laptop.

This laptop cannot even play Crysis on its highest settings at a playable framerate.  At the cost you can buy 2 desktops that can, including 24" monitors.

gurkburk

Originally posted by CleffyII


I am sure the laptop manufacturer is happy you want to sacrafice performance and cost for portability.  The 9800 series was rather disappointing compared to the 8800 and only has a marginal performance increase from the previous generation.  Worse yet it doesn't even outperform the top range 8800.  This excludes the 9800 GX2 which you won't find in a laptop.
This laptop cannot even play Crysis on its highest settings at a playable framerate.  At the cost you can buy 2 desktops that can, including 24" monitors.

 

I think the 9800M GTX wont be seen in any 15.4" anytime soon, which is agreeable pretty sad.

I wont be looking for FPS-games though, MMORPG's, if I can find any that I actually wanto play, and I know they cost money, I already have a desktop that can play crysis with everything on max even though I didnt like the game, but still, wanto get rid of desktop+laptop and get a good replacement preformance laptop ;-)

I wont go for any 17", they are just to big, 15.4" works just a close call really.

Given the fact that I really wont be wanting any FPS-game's I should be ok, then again im pretty positive even this "monster" laptop cant handle AoC that well given the requirements, which in reality means it wont handle new games any  better.

Caldicot

The biggest problem with laptop gaming is the lack of cooling.

Make sure you get the best cooling as possible. Meshed panels with active heat sink cooling paired with a good fan is a good start.

gurkburk

Well the reason I like sager is the fact that all ive read about them, they get top-grades when it comes to the temperature and cooling of their laptop (incl. highspec models).

Never owned one myself, never really seen one tbh (and I still work in IT ), they arnt exactly big in northern europe as a brand at all, there are some re-branders using their products, but still not compared to the big players.

Havent really played games "properly" for years, been a wow-addict but Ive had the same graphics pretty much since I bought the game, resently stocked up with my 8800GTS but tbh, nowdays I dont care that much about preformance when it comes to my desktop, just hafto buy some new parts and good2go, worse case with laptops, and reason I made the post is I dont really keep track of what game-engines require what spec's nowdays.

For example, AoC would probably run nice on the m860 in say 1280 and medium/semi high settings, im pretty sure about that, not 100% though ;-)

Wonder how a 8800m GT is compared to a 7900GT, hafto find myself some charts somewhere I guess ;-)

Sacrificiall

I just went and purchased a Lap Top.

 

I went to Best Buy, Grabbed a copy of AOC and walked over to teh Lap Top Section.Walked up to one of the geekiest sales guys I have ever seen and said: "Dude, I want a Lap Top that can run this game BALLS OUT!".

 

He was adimate about the Gateway FX (I'm no Techy) let's see it's got:

Nvidia GeForce 8800m GTS with 512

Intel core 2 Duo

Windows 64 Vista (I don't care what everyone says about Vista. This Machine and Vista go together like Peanut Butter & Jelly).

Like a 350 Gig Hard Drive and a shit load of other stuff.

I said what about that one?  (The one next to it was the 9800?)

"Isn't 9800 better than 8800?" He was hardcore and started telling me No way, absolutely not, He has been building power rigs his whole life and runs Crisis Balls out on his home made rig, so on, so on.

He insisted I get the 8800 FX Note Book.

Anyway It only cost me 1400 bucks (Probably 1200 now). And he was spot on. I can Run AOC Balls OUT! Vanguard BALLS OUT! I RUN EVERYTHING BALLS OUT!

And to top it off I'm finally Wireless sitt'n here playing in my Damn recliner!

My only recomendation is you get something big with some fans and stuff (But still be able to have it on your lap) cause If you don't the thing will burn you! It gets that Hot, With the set up I have some comfortable Metal thing that I slide a Dual Cooling station under it runs nice and cool but without it gets crazy hot!

Sacrificiall

Yah, What I ended up doing was using some Metal Lap Top stand my wife had brought home from work forever ago and then I grabbed one of those little Lap Top Stands they sell with the 2 Fans that run off USB.

 

Anyway the thing with the Fans fits right inside the Metal Stand thing my wife had so it run completely cool.

This is ESSENTIAL cause when I 1st got it, seriously I almost burnt myself! These things get stupid hot with out good steady ventilation.

Sacrificiall

Originally posted by gurkburk


Well the reason I like sager is the fact that all ive read about them, they get top-grades when it comes to the temperature and cooling of their laptop (incl. highspec models).
Never owned one myself, never really seen one tbh (and I still work in IT ), they arnt exactly big in northern europe as a brand at all, there are some re-branders using their products, but still not compared to the big players.
Havent really played games "properly" for years, been a wow-addict but Ive had the same graphics pretty much since I bought the game, resently stocked up with my 8800GTS but tbh, nowdays I dont care that much about preformance when it comes to my desktop, just hafto buy some new parts and good2go, worse case with laptops, and reason I made the post is I dont really keep track of what game-engines require what spec's nowdays.
For example, AoC would probably run nice on the m860 in say 1280 and medium/semi high settings, im pretty sure about that, not 100% though ;-)
Wonder how a 8800m GT is compared to a 7900GT, hafto find myself some charts somewhere I guess ;-)

 

I run AOC Everything Maxed in 1440 x 900 and (The screen on the FX Notebook is SICK). I can see other players miles before they even know I am planning their demise : ) 30-45 FPS.