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AoC's bugs and missing content are the least of it's problems
revelatorX
Member Posts: 60
Even if AoC would have been released 2 years later and delivered it all AoC still falls short in the most critical areas.
1. The Zoning and instancing philosophy flaw. This is not something they did by rushing to release and a huge problem with the game feeling more like a solo RPG than an MMORPG. also see point 8.
2. Lack of PVE strategies. Almost every single fight in AoC is a boring repeat of the last tank and spank fight you were just in. this will not change, its part of funcoms vision.
3. The "Low Fantasy" concept contradicts itself in this game I.E its OK for a rain of fire to come from your hands and body and totally burn your foe's to a crisp. but a little bit of glow to come from your DRAGON armor or sword is considered "over the top" even though that sword does magical fire damage.
Most players want badass gear and weapons. dont tell me they wanted more realism, start reading this paragraph again from the number three.
4. Real world kindness controls the supposedly barbaric world of conan. unwritten rules can cause a ban for doing things we consider unacceptable but would probably be considered the norm in the age of conan.
5. Philosophical contradictions as far as whats to much fantasy or how real they want the game to be.
they want the game to be real " we cant have flaming swords" wait we have mages.. "your being an ass attacking that lowbee so you will now be a murderer" but in the real age of conan the attacker wouldnt avoid killing an enemy because he was to unskilled. they were umm barbaric...
6.The lame new "innovative" combat system. just adding key strokes with iconed cues is pretty weak and a lame attempt at arcade like controls. kind of like a pseudo street fighter type character.
7. Not many options to improve your character when they reach level 80. no enchants or runes to get for armor/weapons.
8. The whole game has been fine tuned to be a console game. that alone makes it a lame MMORPG.
9. Funcom thinks that siege battles over and over week after week is enough end game to keep people paying 15 dollars a month. it isn't.
if you are not level 80 yet even if you like AoC come back and read this after you have been level 80 for a few days.
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I wished so hard that AoC was the next game to ruin my marriage, but no this game sucks so bad I have gone back to spending time with my wife.Thanx funcom.
Nerf wives, they are OP!
I guess on a positive note, most people already realize most of this
Actually some points you have are very valid others not so, the good thing is there are more people in the game who disagree with all of your points then there are on these forums agreeing with you, imo.
Actually some points you have are very valid others not so, the good thing is there are more people in the game who disagree with all of your points then there are on these forums agreeing with you, imo.
Unprovable either way. The tight control on population numbers for AoC make this claim unprovable.
I can say there are lots of people that do not like this game. There is even a small population of active subscriptions that do not like this game.
Yes I am a hater and even a troll, but AmazingAvery is my opposite, to the point that he has been accused of being paid by Funcom.
Waiting for the next thing
There is a serious mistake here.
What makes Low Fantasy different from High Fantasy is not the amount of magic, but the moral concept.
There is magic in the orginal lore, there are some powerful sorceres and vampires in the original lore, but there is not glowing weapons and armors...
This is not a game issue.
And yes, a lot of players ( myself included ) doesnt want glowing goofy armors and weapons anymore...
... it just seems you dont know the original lore and you know nothing about low fantasy, the rest is ok, just your opinion about the game, in my personal opinion the game has a good core just need to evolve and improve.
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Actually some points you have are very valid others not so, the good thing is there are more people in the game who disagree with all of your points then there are on these forums agreeing with you, imo.
Unprovable either way. The tight control on population numbers for AoC make this claim unprovable.
I can say there are lots of people that do not like this game. There is even a small population of active subscriptions that do not like this game.
Yes I am a hater and even a troll, but AmazingAvery is my opposite, to the point that he has been accused of being paid by Funcom.
All I am saying its wrong to go around making out that everyone dislikes the game, its not true, my guild started out with around the same amount of people it entered the game with. in between that time we lost maybe 50 people from 200 and then gained twice as many. Up to around 300 ppl now, going strong, and very active. We have quite a few people on vacation right now.
In terms of sales figures AoC as reported by the NPD group was the top selling game outing even mass effect and then GTA at launch, dropping to rank 3, 5, 7 start of july and now out the top ten. Whats going to be harder now is that released the buddy keys, that will have an influence too.
I disagree with more than half the points in the first post. I love many sides to the game and have less issues that the average poster. I can only comment on my experience from a first hand active sub.
As for being paid by FC. I wish, I would take a Customer Service postion and speak to the player base more so. ( 12 yr mgmt backround in that area)
Would love to say it how it is to some degree and be active doing so.
5. Philosophical contradictions as far as whats to much fantasy or how real they want the game to be.
they want the game to be real " we cant have flaming swords" wait we have mages.. "your being an ass attacking that lowbee so you will now be a murderer" but in the real age of conan the attacker wouldnt avoid killing an enemy because he was to unskilled. they were umm barbaric...
Thats real within the lore to a degree. Its called a video game design concept, its not real how you think...
I am on this forum and agree totally with the op. This "game" is terrible.
Oh look, it's avery protecting and polishing his turd by telling everyone how much he and the countless guildies and friends he plays with like the game, in his opinion of course.
Sometimes I think people who turn a blind eye to what really is don't want to see. Probably because all the time spent really hoping a game is good (not to mention playing it) and admitting it's not could be considered a blow to one's ego, something many couldn't take. I would think.
What i want to accomplish by putting this piece of crap in the true light that it was and still is in many ways, is in the hope that the producers of this pay to play beta and potential producers of pay to play beta's will read this and say "you know, maybe the mmo community won't take this crap if we keep shoveling it out. "
I know that I'm just a nobody on this forum thats on the internet full of nobody's, but I have to spend my free time doing something.
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If you are insulted by being called a fanboi it's a good bet that you are one
"it just seems you dont know the original lore and you know nothing about low fantasy, the rest is ok, just your opinion "
well if that's how the original lore effects the game. I hate it. i think it's very illogical. It became a game issue when they inserted things that didnt make sense. and i think the lore and the concept behind most of this game is bland at best.
what brings it up from crap to bland? blood, breast and graphics. not in that order though.
You're out of luck.... I don't think the producers of AoC can even read.
You are not able to judge the original lore as you dont know it.
Robert E Howard´s work is for Low Fantasy what Tolkien´s work is for High Fantasy... to tell the truth if you just want glowing weapons and armors, I really think this game is not for you.
Age of Conan has a lot of issues, but lore is not one of them, it seems you just were not able to read all quests ...anyway, if you think they inserted things that didnt make sense, maybe the issue is with you, you just didnt get it, it is not their fault.
You want to talk about some real issues, ok, but your view about Low Fantasy and glowing weapons is just a mess.
Maybe it is hard for you to understand something that is a bit different, or you just hate this game so much you started to make silly points about it.
AoC need more content and polish for sure, but if you just want glowing weapons in your misconception of Low/High Fantasy, trust-me, there are a lot of games for you.
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Robert E Howard was a very good author but he wrote maybe 20% of the Conan novels and the other writers were mostly hacks including L. Sprague De Camp and Lin Carter who never impressed me.
Actually some points you have are very valid others not so, the good thing is there are more people in the game who disagree with all of your points then there are on these forums agreeing with you, imo.
one of the thing that make you amazing is that you still live in some MMORPG dream about AOC. Most already woke
I like to read the AoC forums sometimes but I have never played the game. Why? Probably for the same reason onlookers flock to gruesome accidents.
I do however disagree that having "realistic" arms is a hallmark of the low fantasy setting. The designation "low fantasy" is less about props and magic and more about the morality of the characters and the world they inhabit.
A high fantasy is all about good vs. evil, fighting the good fight against a tyrannical enemy and the like. A low fantasy setting portrays characters who do not always (or rarely or never) do the good and noble thing, or conversely antagonists who are not wholly evil. In other words the characters act out of their own self-interest, rather than the common good. Although I suppose that would not be precluded in a low fantasy setting either it would simply not be the guiding theme of the work.
While I do think that glowing or outlandish gear could have a place in a game like AoC, I also think it is a terrible shame if that game fell into the phat lootz syndrome. I appreciate there are phat loot games but when it seems every MMO starts to fall into that pattern, it makes me sad.
I like diversity, and just like I enjoy my wine very dry, I really appreciate a fantasy setting that is devoid of glowing skulls and whatever the quasi-medieval equivalent of monster trucks and wrestle-mania is.
And I do care at least partially about this particular game because I fully expect to be happily playing it next year - after all the bugs are ironed out and it has had time to age to a (hopefully) fine vintage. Here's to hoping it doesn't end up vinegar.
You are not able to judge the original lore as you dont know it.
Robert E Howard´s work is for Low Fantasy what Tolkien´s work is for High Fantasy... to tell the truth if you just want glowing weapons and armors, I really think this game is not for you.
you are having serious reading comprehension issues so this is probably pointless but here goes.
it doesnt matter if it is lore or it isnt lore, but having magic users and magical weapons that dont show their magic is just plain stupid IMO. its my opinion and i dont neeed to know anything about conan lore to have it. it will not change.therefore its a moot point.
i dont care if i got high and low fantasy wrong either. Thats how it was explained several times on the US AoC forums. and still doesnt change any of my opinions about the game. the concept (whatever its called and weather it does or does not come from the lore) stinks.
Of course this game isnt for me, thats why i unsubscribed. im just trying to get my 65 dollars worth out of it by picking it apart to feel better about wasting my money on it. and its working i feel a lot better already.
P.S after reading what High/low fantasy is by the previous poster, i can say that i don't have a preference for either one. i just remember several people complaining that they didn't like glowing weapons and that they hated high fantasy stuff like that.
I have to agree about the instancing, it's what killed it for me, in fact entering the "Underhalls" was enough to quickly turn me off this game, now I don't mind a loading screen when entering a dungeon or a large new outdoor area, that's perfectly understandable, but once inside I DO expect to be able to move seamslessly between rooms and sections of the dungeon, I DO not expect there to be a separate loading screen for each and every little section (The Wine Cellar, The Dungeon Keep etc) of said dungeon!
And don't give me the "oh, the graphics are so advanced, there has to be separate loading screens", there's nothing advanced about the simple dungeon walls and background graphics of these "Underhalls", guess I'll just wait for the 360 port since that's what this game is clearly being "optimized" for.
Actually some points you have are very valid others not so, the good thing is there are more people in the game who disagree with all of your points then there are on these forums agreeing with you, imo.
Unprovable either way. The tight control on population numbers for AoC make this claim unprovable.
I can say there are lots of people that do not like this game. There is even a small population of active subscriptions that do not like this game.
Yes I am a hater and even a troll, but AmazingAvery is my opposite, to the point that he has been accused of being paid by Funcom.
All I am saying its wrong to go around making out that everyone dislikes the game, its not true, my guild started out with around the same amount of people it entered the game with. in between that time we lost maybe 50 people from 200 and then gained twice as many. Up to around 300 ppl now, going strong, and very active. We have quite a few people on vacation right now.
In terms of sales figures AoC as reported by the NPD group was the top selling game outing even mass effect and then GTA at launch, dropping to rank 3, 5, 7 start of july and now out the top ten. Whats going to be harder now is that released the buddy keys, that will have an influence too.
I disagree with more than half the points in the first post. I love many sides to the game and have less issues that the average poster. I can only comment on my experience from a first hand active sub.
As for being paid by FC. I wish, I would take a Customer Service postion and speak to the player base more so. ( 12 yr mgmt backround in that area)
Would love to say it how it is to some degree and be active doing so.
5. Philosophical contradictions as far as whats to much fantasy or how real they want the game to be.
they want the game to be real " we cant have flaming swords" wait we have mages.. "your being an ass attacking that lowbee so you will now be a murderer" but in the real age of conan the attacker wouldnt avoid killing an enemy because he was to unskilled. they were umm barbaric...
Thats real within the lore to a degree. Its called a video game design concept, its not real how you think...
Please define "would love to say it how it is" because it seems to be an issue in many of your posts to people who play/have played the game. Would that be saying it how YOU think it is or reality?
Fungerer som det skal
i feel sorry for your wife.
Actually some points you have are very valid others not so, the good thing is there are more people in the game who disagree with all of your points then there are on these forums agreeing with you, imo.
you work for funcom, no one needs to hear your opinion. Are you on these forums now again to do some damage control. you make me sick.
i feel sorry for your wife.
I take it you are not married, lol.