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I want my AC2 back or make a fricken new AC3
Musket-Squid
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Tried AC would like it if you had a better UI and maybe updated graphics. Plus once I get back from overseas I will give it another try. Tried LOTR ...crap and DDO ...crap.
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AC2 back will never happen and a new ac3 will be a dumb down version and more in style of wow then old AC ip early days.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
AC2 back will never happen and a new ac3 will be a dumb down version and more in style of wow then old AC ip early days.
i love people who can see the future, and know exactly what something will be like.
Evasia's prediction is pretty safe. AC2 definetly will not return. There's no reason it would succeed now. It's old, the graphics and gameplay are dated. Most new MMOs barrow from WoW, so there's a good chance AC3 would too.
[quote]Most new MMOs barrow from WoW, so there's a good chance AC3 would too.[/quote]
In this case, I would disagree. For one, Turbine already has a WoW clone. For two, they listen to their fans more than any developer I have ever seen. They are just as passionate about AC as the fans.
AC3 shouldn't be about bringing back AC2. If anything, AC2 should be a lesson of what not to do with AC3.
AC3 will be simple compared to AC1. They are not going to simply remake AC1 with better graphcs like all the AC1 players hope. It would be stupid to do so. AC1s graphics are not the only thing holding it back, it's just too difficult to figure out and get into. Turbine was on the right track making AC2 easier. An easier game appeals to a larger audiance. Turbine is out to make money not please the measly number of AC1 fans.
AC2 was awesome. It had growing pains to be sure but I loved it.
Now that they have DDO and LotRO in and pumping funds I'd love to see AC2 reopen as F2P server. Graphically it would be fine, DDO and LotRO are built on the AC2 engine. AC2 gameplay with LotRO stability... scary good fun.
I'm not greedy here or anything like that to just want AC2 back. hell, I would love it if the reshipped it as a single player game. I liked the game play and the world the game was set in. As a single payer game I would miss the pvp for sure though.
How many delicate flowers have you met in Counterstrike?
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Hmm only thing they should not do, is release AC3 if they ever start developing it, to early.
Ac2 mainly faild becouse it was released to soon under pressure of MS and with almost no advertisment it was doomed before it even had a chance to show how great this game realy was, and many players just jump on the dooms wagon to talk ac2 to distruction.
With pc,s these days most people have, ac2 could be runned prolly on hi res and it looks still very good i think and for gameplay its still far better then majority of most mmo's out there.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Petition san.
What I would love to see is the uniqueness of AC2 blended with the freedom and utterly giant world of AC1.
No other mmo can compare in terms of how unique the classes were in AC2. Plus I miss tossing lightning from my drum
I started AC1 on the first day of public release. I have so many fond memories of the early days in AC1.
That Turbine continues to ignore there own franchise and has no wish to develop a MMO based on this astounding game astonishes me.
There moderate successes with there current offerings gives them the resourcers to develop such a project. No liscensing to LOTR as an example to worry about, and a built in interest in things they develop + the former palyer base give it IF DONE RIGHT a real shot a succeeding there wildest exspectations.
One of the things that I recall is the fluid movement, that hasn't been truely captured by any MMO since except WOW to my knowledge.
I would love to see the AC franchise relooked at and put some of the resources from there current projects into developing a fully fleshed out and modern version. AC2 failed because it was too far removed from it predecessor.
THat AC1 continues to even exist is astounding in of itself.
I'm willing to bet that Turbine has seen the clamoring thoughts of many fans present and former for a new AC.
What do you think it is that holds them back? I'm at a loss
Turbine learned from their mistakes of AC2.
Remember when chat didnt work for a month? maybe more?
I didnt mind the game however... the music was great and atmosphere was nice, jumping off cliffs and flippin around in the air.
This is why everyone needs to hope that games like Darfall don't fail. If the sandbox MMO"s fail then we are all in for WoW clones for years to come.
I could really go for a remake of AC1, while Ac2 had nice graphics and some interesting ideas it was alittle to limited / simplified for me. As for Darkfall I don't see it being like either of the Ac's really, and is really its own game IMO, or perhaps closer to UO.
Unfortunately I must confess i haven't been staying up to date on Ac, didn't even know there where any plans for Ac3
AC2's failure had nothing to do with it being too far removed, and had everything to do with it being technically unsound. I played the beta and absolutely loved the game as someone who played AC1 in beta and at launch. But even in the beta, it got a ton of bad press due to it being nigh unplayable due to lag and various other issues. Then it plodded along for months in nigh unplayable conditions, constant rollbacks, rubberbanding, etc etc until eventually enough people bailed that it closed down. As I recall it was going up against copetition as well. It's a shame, because it was an interesting game. I especially liked the crafting system. One of the coolest things from when I was playing was when I grabbed a bunch of components and made myself a new weapon right then and there.
Personally, I would love to see another AC but I doubt it will happen. It would be nice, but I don't think they're going to devote the resources to it or take the risk at the moment. Surprisingly, I actually think Turbine could manage to release AC3 without it becoming just another WoW Clone (though people would probably call it one anyway since they seem to equate anything that contains the basic core elements of an MMO as a "WoW Clone" as if WoW invented the MMO -_-) however, with WoW essentially consuming the playerbase and completely hosing the genre in general by making watered down mass market crap considered "good" to the majority of players (most of which were brought in by WoW of course) it would be way too risky. I wouldn't expect any new IP from Turbine until WoW finally does something so rediculous that it imploads on itself and MMOs are free to flourish again.
General PS: If you think LoTRO is a WoW clone you need your head examined.
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The biggest problem AC2 has is that the majority of people who have actually experienced the game, have that experience from beta or the early days of the game. The truth is that the day they shut the game down (I was there) the game was a well polished, WoW styled game. If you think about it, WoW was made to look and play similar to AC2. Google an AC2 screenshot and you will see that the interface is VERY similar. I bet if they rereleased the game today, it would be called a WoW clone. Little would they know, however...
Games played/playing: Asheron's Call, AC2, SWG, GW, LotRO (Beta), DnDO (Beta), WoW
I agree it was polished and well played the last year it was online, but WoW style? hmm cant agree. I do acknowledge the interface being very similiar, but thats as far I would go...
I could probably go on, but I cant for the best of me see the WoW style in AC2. For me, they are as different as class based fantasy MMO goes.
As for giving us AC2 back...I still have hope to play it once again, and I would embrace an AC3 with joy. I just want Dereth back with decent graphics.
Sorry, but I did mean in appearance and the interface. And its funny, because I never even thought of the AC Quests as raid styled quests until now, but we did have multi-fellow quests that did have raid feels to them. The term raid was just never applied to it. (maybe before the term was around?)
AC2 did have some solo aspects to it. (Especially if you were a tactian) but it was not solo friendly. I guess the fact that there were not too many quests that people ran meant that there was always a fellow forming to run them.
I wish I could remember the names of the quests, but its been a while and my memory aint the best. But AC2 will always be my favorite MMO of all time, and I would be there in an instant if they brought it back.
Games played/playing: Asheron's Call, AC2, SWG, GW, LotRO (Beta), DnDO (Beta), WoW
Hehe I see. Then I agree with you
Raids started before AC2, so we cant give them credit for that. But, the quests in AC2 were amazing and are still the best quests I've tried so far
Eidelon, Legion of Doom, Foundry, Master Vaults, Boots, Temple of elemental light, Shreth, Kogun, Black Ferah, Cacaphos, Bringing down the Catacombs, Gurog Wars... hope these freshen your memory abit...hehe
-IF- they make another AC, I hope they use AC2 quest system and not Lotros!
Ac2 have not failed becouse it was not AC it failed becouse of MS who have pushed turbine to release it to soon, and becouse of that many start complaining when they reach lvl cap and there was not much to do then standing in east gevoth whining.
Many have never gave AC2 a chance after hero patch when it become a much better game.
But sure it was not AC it was just a newer type of game with awesome grafhics.
But it will never be release again by turbine and making a AC3 thats evolved from ac2 is a bad choice most will again hate it thats nature of people they love to whine:P
And AC3 is a big chance it will be far more casual and themepark then AC believe that trubine lost his way with sandbox games.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
AC2 back will never happen and a new ac3 will be a dumb down version and more in style of wow then old AC ip early days.
i love people who can see the future, and know exactly what something will be like.
Actually I would agree that either of those scenarios would be pretty close, though. If they were to make an AC3, it might have some of the same "flavor" of 1 or 2, but I dont' think it would have the same style of gameplay.
Mind you... I'd *love* to be proven wrong on either of those guesses. If they brought back AC2 (in a more "solid" but otherwise unaltered state) or made an AC3 in the spirit of the first two, I'd be the first to say "Yes! I was wrong! Awesome!"
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Ac2 have not failed becouse it was not AC it failed becouse of MS who have pushed turbine to release it to soon, and becouse of that many start complaining when they reach lvl cap and there was not much to do then standing in east gevoth whining.
Many have never gave AC2 a chance after hero patch when it become a much better game.
But sure it was not AC it was just a newer type of game with awesome grafhics.
But it will never be release again by turbine and making a AC3 thats evolved from ac2 is a bad choice most will again hate it thats nature of people they love to whine:P
And AC3 is a big chance it will be far more casual and themepark then AC believe that trubine lost his way with sandbox games.
Yeah.. by the time the expansion came out, many agreed that AC2 had finally become a solid game. Unfortunately, it was too late by then.
Real shame.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Actually the AC2 screenshots have been used in defense of LoTRO against claims of "WoW Clone!" - especially the interface. I myself linked to AC2 screenshots on several occasions, showing how LoTRO's interface was much closer to AC2's (not to mention that AC2 was around long before WoW).
Did it stop the "wow clone!" statements? Nope. Not at all. Some will simply never let facts get in the way of their own ignorance.
One response I got from someone after linking to the AC2 screenshot that remains my favorite was:
"Oh, so it's okay that Turbine stole the interface, as long as they stole it from themselves?"
I'll let the stupidity of that comment speak for itself.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Some of my best MMO gaming experiences were in AC2. The worst part of the game was that my friends and I had to turn the sound off, else we'd get incapacitating lag.
This game had a lot of uniqueness about it that I haven't seen since. I spent a lot of time researching whether someone had started an emulator project, but to no avail. AC2 is truly gone.
I would definitly check out AC3 if it were ever developed. I fear it would be made too easy. I don't think that making parts of games moderately complex is a bad thing. I like a challenge...it makes things interesting. It frustrates me that the majority of the masses clamor for simple games. Developers would have a hard time keeping a game successful if they did not go with what the majority wants. I place the blame mostly on the players for this.
i miss ac2 .. but its a grind fest once you hit 60+ and with no level cap those who have plenty of time and patience to grind gets to have the edge. the quests are fun.. hope they keep some of those big group quest.. fix crafting, even trying to dye your armor has a chance to completely turn your best armor to worthless junk. all based on luck. lol.. implement the crafting in lotro or swg and it will be awesome.
allegiance system - keep the ranking order but get rid of the passing of experience to your patron.. its just one pyramid scheme really.. the top boss/ patron or matriarch gets all the xp from his or her vassals, so those in the bottom gets nothing. sure it doesn't take any xp from your kill but it generates % of the xp you gain and transfer it to them. how do u think Quingu gets to be the highest lvl in frostfell server.
level cap - 50? 70? 90? better quest story line, not just go kill 10 shreths come back and ding. better content., to keep those high lvl busy. housing maybe??
keep the race - or add - miss those tumeroks and lugians. and would be nice to keep those portals. portal summons. makes traveling such an ease. don't need another flying device that makes me wait 10-15 minutes to get from point A to B. wishfull thinking maybe..
-- metos, berzerker of frostfell
I played the AC2 beta along with others due to them giving out beta access to AC1 account owners. I had dial-up at the time, as I lived in the middle of no where Michigan just outside of cable/dsl range.
AC2 was neat and very impressive looking, but for some reason reminded me a lot of DAoC.
I loved how everything worked in AC1; stats, skills, levels not necessary meaning all too much, choosing how you want to attack (fast or slow), the different types of attacks (blunt, piercing, acid) and defenses.
Update the graphics, interface, and the interworkings of a few of the game concepts and it could possibly compete in todays market. Like update spell casting so you didn't need to go to a site to find out the recipe to cast a spell, making it unique to every character or something similar. The non-instanced dungeons were a great way to meet new friends, compete for some mobs, solo but still have others around you, etc.
Dereth was a beautiful world to run around in as it provided possibly danger, beauty, landscape changes, etc.
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