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So Darkfall looks amazing!

Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785

I'm late to the party reading up on this game. I have been reading the official site for info, but I have a couple questions.

Is it true there is no NA publisher and we are 5 months from release?

Has this developer made any other MMOs? If so, how ere they received?

 

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  • daylight01daylight01 Member Posts: 2,250
    Originally posted by Die_Scream


    I'm late to the party reading up on this game. I have been reading the official site for info, but I have a couple questions.
    Is it true there is no NA publisher and we are 5 months from release?
    Has this developer made any other MMOs? If so, how ere they received?
     



     

    mate before this post gets swarmed,darkfall has been getting made for 7 years now and for the last..I think 5 years will release that year,basically find another game to hope for and if darkfall releases then enjoy the shock and awe of it then.

    image

    If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8

  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by daylight01

    Originally posted by Die_Scream


    I'm late to the party reading up on this game. I have been reading the official site for info, but I have a couple questions.
    Is it true there is no NA publisher and we are 5 months from release?
    Has this developer made any other MMOs? If so, how ere they received?
     



     

    mate before this post gets swarmed,darkfall has been getting made for 7 years now and for the last..I think 5 years will release that year,basically find another game to hope for and if darkfall releases then enjoy the shock and awe of it then.

     

    there only be 2 release dates 2003 and know the beta things where just hints that they shouldnt have hinted

  • daylight01daylight01 Member Posts: 2,250
    Originally posted by Xxeon

    Originally posted by daylight01

    Originally posted by Die_Scream


    I'm late to the party reading up on this game. I have been reading the official site for info, but I have a couple questions.
    Is it true there is no NA publisher and we are 5 months from release?
    Has this developer made any other MMOs? If so, how ere they received?
     



     

    mate before this post gets swarmed,darkfall has been getting made for 7 years now and for the last..I think 5 years will release that year,basically find another game to hope for and if darkfall releases then enjoy the shock and awe of it then.

     

    there only be 2 release dates 2003 and know the beta things where just hints that they shouldnt have hinted



     

    I rest my case...

    image

    If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8

  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by daylight01

    Originally posted by Xxeon

    Originally posted by daylight01

    Originally posted by Die_Scream


    I'm late to the party reading up on this game. I have been reading the official site for info, but I have a couple questions.
    Is it true there is no NA publisher and we are 5 months from release?
    Has this developer made any other MMOs? If so, how ere they received?
     



     

    mate before this post gets swarmed,darkfall has been getting made for 7 years now and for the last..I think 5 years will release that year,basically find another game to hope for and if darkfall releases then enjoy the shock and awe of it then.

     

    there only be 2 release dates 2003 and know the beta things where just hints that they shouldnt have hinted



     

    I rest my case...

    ok what ever i give the facts you lie and say there been a release date evry year.. well at least your not to bad...

  • 0muffins00muffins0 Member Posts: 136
    Originally posted by Die_Scream


    I'm late to the party reading up on this game. I have been reading the official site for info, but I have a couple questions.
    Is it true there is no NA publisher and we are 5 months from release?
    Has this developer made any other MMOs? If so, how ere they received?
     

     

    From Tasos -

    [quote]

    The answer to the question on whether we're going to launch in N. America and Europe at the same time is: "Right now it doesn't look that way"



    I’ve been frustrated by issues like these while waiting for a game myself, and I’ll try to explain this as well as I can:

    1. First of all, this isn’t an issue of us being located in Europe. It just means that things are moving faster for Darkfall in Europe. A few months ago, it was the other way around and that’s how fluid things are at the moment.
    2. It would be a publishing and a logistics issue that the European launch might precede a N. American launch. We have a publishing partner in Europe; we haven’t settled on one in N. America yet. Unfortunately as things stand right now, we can’t launch in both regions at the same exact time but, of course, we would like to.
    3. While the actual status on this hasn’t changed much since our friends visited our offices, things are moving at a fast pace.
    4. What we can say with relative certainty is that the first beta test will be on the European servers. This isn’t to say that N. American players will be excluded from it.
    5. It also doesn’t necessarily mean that N. American players would be excluded from playing on a European server.
    6. While we haven’t selected a publisher in N. America yet like we have in Europe, this doesn’t actually mean that we need one, or that we're going to wait for one, in order to launch the game there.
    7. Our publishing effort has been for a common infrastructure and we’ve been adopting solutions with a global reach so that the setup in one region could be shared by- or quickly duplicated in the other. I don’t want to say that we could be up in N. America in no time, but that’s our intention.
    8. It’s important to remember that our preferred scenario is to launch Darkfall in N. America and Europe at the same time. This is on our mind as we move forward. Even if we don’t manage this, it’s our intention to move very quickly to catch up.

    [/quote]

     

    forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785

    Thanks for the replies. It doesn't sound good though :(

    This game sounds like exactly what I have been waiting for for so long, I'm disappointed the release is not certain.

    If they release in Europe, at least they release, that would give me hope. I'll be keeping an eye on the game from now on and hope to hell they make it a reality. maybe we in NA can play on the EU servers, at least we'd get to experience it.

    Thanks 0mufins0, though it's disheartening.

  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by Die_Scream


    Thanks for the replies. It doesn't sound good though :(
    This game sounds like exactly what I have been waiting for for so long, I'm disappointed the release is not certain.
    If they release in Europe, at least they release, that would give me hope. I'll be keeping an eye on the game from now on and hope to hell they make it a reality. maybe we in NA can play on the EU servers, at least we'd get to experience it.
    Thanks 0mufins0, though it's disheartening.



     

    yea we should be able too

    i believe the server they have know is in the uk and i get like 130 ping from here in iowa

  • mike470mike470 General CorrespondentMember Posts: 2,396
    Originally posted by Die_Scream


    I'm late to the party reading up on this game. I have been reading the official site for info, but I have a couple questions.
    Is it true there is no NA publisher and we are 5 months from release?
    Yes.
    Has this developer made any other MMOs? If so, how ere they received?
    No.
     



     

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  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by mike470

    Originally posted by Die_Scream


    I'm late to the party reading up on this game. I have been reading the official site for info, but I have a couple questions.
    Is it true there is no NA publisher and we are 5 months from release?
    Yes.
    Has this developer made any other MMOs? If so, how ere they received?
    No.
     



     

    true XD

     

  • Tyres100Tyres100 Member Posts: 704
    Originally posted by Xxeon

    Originally posted by Die_Scream


    Thanks for the replies. It doesn't sound good though :(
    This game sounds like exactly what I have been waiting for for so long, I'm disappointed the release is not certain.
    If they release in Europe, at least they release, that would give me hope. I'll be keeping an eye on the game from now on and hope to hell they make it a reality. maybe we in NA can play on the EU servers, at least we'd get to experience it.
    Thanks 0mufins0, though it's disheartening.



     

    yea we should be able too

    i believe the server they have know is in the uk and i get like 130 ping from here in iowa

     

    How do you know. Besides a ping directly to the server without other real world gameplay does not mean it will be lag free for most US players based on your assessment of 130 ping. PVP MMO games are always chosen to be played by the client where the servers are closest to them. Meaning all real PVP players will pick a server closest to them to get the best performance during gameplay.

    I just don't see the US market making such irrational decisions on this. Firstly they are still in the dark up till launch for the EU players, which does them no good in determining server performance from overseas and second they all know better by now when it comes to buying first to beta test a game. *cough* AOC.

    I don't doubt some fanatic fans here in the US will buy the digital download and play EU, but hey if they want to waste money go ahead. They can as easily get enough info by reading real release information from players and guides as they would playing. Probably even better equiped to play US servers at US launch if they read guides and release infos put out by players. Doing the PVP part ofc will hone skills better but is it worth such frustrations to try and play odd man out.

    I will be waiting for US launch and only buy and play if what is said about the EU launch is good.

    Who let you in the VIP section?

  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559

    thats your choice im going to at least try to play and see hwo well there optimizations are. esspicly with free to try . no harm at all. then i hope they allow character transfers lol

    plus 130 ping is just fine...  70 is what i get if the server is not to far.

    plus one of the mods said the server is located in the uk

  • Tyres100Tyres100 Member Posts: 704
    Originally posted by Xxeon


    thats your choice im going to at least try to play and see hwo well there optimizations are. esspicly with free to try . no harm at all. then i hope they allow character transfers lol
    plus 130 ping is just fine...  70 is what i get if the server is not to far.
    plus one of the mods said the server is located in the uk

     

    Again you are saying you know the server ping, I ask once more how do you know? Beta is not out yet.

    Who let you in the VIP section?

  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by Tyres100

    Originally posted by Xxeon


    thats your choice im going to at least try to play and see hwo well there optimizations are. esspicly with free to try . no harm at all. then i hope they allow character transfers lol
    plus 130 ping is just fine...  70 is what i get if the server is not to far.
    plus one of the mods said the server is located in the uk

     

    Again you are saying you know the server ping, I ask once more how do you know? Beta is not out yet.



     

    i pinged loudon 130 is rough estimate it possibly could be better but 130 ping is close 

  • Tyres100Tyres100 Member Posts: 704
    Originally posted by Xxeon

    Originally posted by Tyres100

    Originally posted by Xxeon


    thats your choice im going to at least try to play and see hwo well there optimizations are. esspicly with free to try . no harm at all. then i hope they allow character transfers lol
    plus 130 ping is just fine...  70 is what i get if the server is not to far.
    plus one of the mods said the server is located in the uk

     

    Again you are saying you know the server ping, I ask once more how do you know? Beta is not out yet.



     

    i pinged loudon 130 is rough estimate it possibly could be better but 130 ping is close 

     

    Well grats to finding the servers ip, second the ping to ping without gameplay really could be two broad ends of the spectrum. Real gameplay to server will always result in higher ping times. So if you play and got a ping it probably wouldn't be that. Also now take in the fact you have no idea on new launch servers locations, player amounts and extra traffic if the login is on same server. I doubt US players will average a 130ms ping, perhaps 260+ for most if the game is as popular as it is in EU.

    Who let you in the VIP section?

  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559

    could be we just have to see. they have test connections from japan

  • NytebeastNytebeast Member Posts: 2

    Well, I wouldn't say we are 5 months from release. That would be jumping to conclusions because there have been times when released dates have been postpwned. However, I do like to think so myself that it is true...if only...

  • GerecGerec Member CommonPosts: 185

    With only a few months to go, they've said several times now that they are on board for a 2008 launch. I would think they would be less firm and consistent with the "yes, we know we only have a few months left, but we are launching in 2008 for sure" talk if they weren't, well, sure. Not a direct quote by the way.

     

     

  • QarkQark Member Posts: 234

    i dont know developer who didnt cancel release date. Blizzard did several times, not only with game but with patches allso....AOC was canceled several times, to bad they didnt cancel release one more time.

    But ok, they are canceliing and canceling release every year...small dev team + small finance...it can take looong time.

    On other side why should only big companies be allowed to make good games? Because of that blind stand that only Blizzard, Funcom, Edios etc big names can release good game we have situation that half games we play nowdays are crap...no more true games like Fallout, DE, SystemShock etc...

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  • Death1942Death1942 Member UncommonPosts: 2,587

    <<< is thankful that Aussies can play on EU servers

     

    also most (if not all) games that have a delay always end up saying they will be released in *insert current year*

    MMO wish list:

    -Changeable worlds
    -Solid non level based game
    -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads

  • DameonkDameonk Member UncommonPosts: 1,914
    Originally posted by Qark


    i dont know developer who didnt cancel release date. Blizzard did several times, not only with game but with patches allso....AOC was canceled several times, to bad they didnt cancel release one more time.
    But ok, they are canceliing and canceling release every year...small dev team + small finance...it can take looong time.
    On other side why should only big companies be allowed to make good games? Because of that blind stand that only Blizzard, Funcom, Edios etc big names can release good game we have situation that half games we play nowdays are crap...no more true games like Fallout, DE, SystemShock etc...

     

    I think everyone here would love for a small company to come in and wipe the floor with the big boys.  CCP is doing a pretty good job of it.

    The problem most of the forum goers have with DF or more specifically, Adventurine, is the fact that they have repeatedly lied to their fan base.

    On a side note.  There is no way in hell DF is releasing this year.  If they do, it will be one of the biggest disappointments since the genre was started.  The reason I say this is because they have not even started public beta testing yet, with only 5 months to go in the year it would be impossible to release a publically playable game by then.

    "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."

  • QarkQark Member Posts: 234

    well we can sit and wait...to see when (if) its going to be finished...

    I just dont wana pay to play another beta, rather they delay for next year than to loose player base in 2 months...for small company its 100% death.

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  • JokerkaaosJokerkaaos Member Posts: 125
    Originally posted by Dameonk



    The problem most of the forum goers have with DF or more specifically, Adventurine, is the fact that they have repeatedly lied to their fan base.
    On a side note.  There is no way in hell DF is releasing this year.  If they do, it will be one of the biggest disappointments since the genre was started.  The reason I say this is because they have not even started public beta testing yet, with only 5 months to go in the year it would be impossible to release a publically playable game by then.

     

    Yes, there is no way for a reasonable person to avoid being very suspicious about this game. To claim to be releasing within four months from now without having even started beta seems crazy. Nobody has seen anything that looks more advanced than basic alpha engine video.

     

    The concern for a publisher for North America seems odd - or concerning. Why not just offer the obvious digital download? They wouldn't need a publisher to set up a server farm in NA.

     

    Nothing about the game except the "vision" of it is promising. There is nothing tangible, and a lot of red flags.

  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559

    except anybody that has seen the game says its there its good. or these guys will be bale to pull it off. you know what i meant

  • QarkQark Member Posts: 234
    Originally posted by Xxeon


    except anybody that has seen the game says its there its good. or these guys will be bale to pull it off. you know what i meant



     

    belive me when i say that im neutra when talking about this game. But consider this...



    Im guy whos surfing web, i find article about cool game named Darkfall. I do some searching about game only to find...nothing. 2 year old video clip showing nothing much, that kind of video can be made without game itself. Now im smart guy and i ignore vaporware trolls but allso on other side doubt on existance of very game since there is no proof of what so ever that game exist.



    If you look some other projects that are looong in development, like Fallen Earth. They are doing Q&A for allmost year now with real answers not just one sentence respond like Yes/no/copy-paste of some old article. They have top comunity manager/team that comunicate with fanbase giving them right answers in right moment.



    Greeks are quiet about their game, a bit too much. Its like they dont care what comunity thinks.

    On other side, everyone think that when this game get released (IF) it will flop because it wont deliver all that content they are promising and they are promising game that would take WoW down on knees by playability, continet size...they would take down AOC with reall FFA PvP etc...

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  • TheodgrimTheodgrim Member Posts: 535
    Originally posted by Tyres100

    Originally posted by Xxeon


    i pinged loudon 130 is rough estimate it possibly could be better but 130 ping is close 

     

    Well grats to finding the servers ip, second the ping to ping without gameplay really could be two broad ends of the spectrum. Real gameplay to server will always result in higher ping times. So if you play and got a ping it probably wouldn't be that. Also now take in the fact you have no idea on new launch servers locations, player amounts and extra traffic if the login is on same server. I doubt US players will average a 130ms ping, perhaps 260+ for most if the game is as popular as it is in EU.



     

    Actually, Xxeon is likely correct.  I also happen to live in Iowa (/wave Xxeon) and play a game called Roma Victor.  RV is based in England, and their servers are located at an ISP called Jolt.  I ping just under 130ms in game, when playing RV.

    With that said, there is no guarantee DF will be located in a data center that offers the same performance.  But if they use a decent, professional service (and requiring a 400G pipe, they better) then we should see decent pings.

    130ms is OK, but not ideal for a real-time twitch game.  Many Euros will easily be under 50 ms.  From my experience, anything over 150ms starts to suck when playing against folks with 50ms or lower ping in a twitch game.

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