I posted it once before but it needs to be said again. Funcom gets grants from the Norway government alongside their investor and internal revenue. We should make the Norway government fully aware they are co conspirators to funcoms acts of fraud. This is one reason funcom acts as they do they know they have this crutch to fall back on and can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it. It time we get funcoms funding revoked surely the people of Norway would rather see their taxes go to better projects than supporting this company.
I posted it once before but it needs to be said again. Funcom gets grants from the Norway government alongside their investor and internal revenue. We should make the Norway government fully aware they are co conspirators to funcoms acts of fraud. This is one reason funcom acts as they do they know they have this crutch to fall back on and can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it. It time we get funcoms funding revoked surely the people of Norway would rather see their taxes go to better projects than supporting this company.
No offence, but, hehe..hahaha. C'mon now, this is a tad over the top no?
I'm trying to remember who did this recently....I think it was the developers of Titan Quest, they basicly came out and said that the PC gaming community and piracy was to blame for the failings of the game....oh no, it couldn't be the games fault or bad customer service now could it?
Ironlore (the people behind TQ) and the developers behind Crysis (cant remember their name) both came out around the same time to state that it was piracy that was killing them and the PC gaming community. Too bad they failed to notice that piracy on all consoles/handhelds is pretty common. Thankfully Ironlore closed up shop, and don't know anyone that really cares about the Crysis dev team.
Originally posted by Die_Scream Originally posted by hobo9766 I posted it once before but it needs to be said again. Funcom gets grants from the Norway government alongside their investor and internal revenue. We should make the Norway government fully aware they are co conspirators to funcoms acts of fraud. This is one reason funcom acts as they do they know they have this crutch to fall back on and can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it. It time we get funcoms funding revoked surely the people of Norway would rather see their taxes go to better projects than supporting this company.
No offence, but, hehe..hahaha. C'mon now, this is a tad over the top no?No I don't. This company has treated its customers like garbage for years and continues to do so. They have no respect for their customers and their opinions but will gladly take their money by lies false promises and outright fraud. They do not deserve any government funded grants or other handouts due to their inappropriate behavior and business practices. They don't deserve the Norwegian film fund grant or any other grant.
AoC and Funcom did not disapoint at all they turned out exactly what they were developing (a steaming pile) The ideas and core mechanics of there x-platform dung pile were pretty obvious dam shame so many couldnt see it for what it is and spent there time and money ... The list keeps growing of these failures from devs that you know have put out sub par games and have sub par CS.. And yet people just keep preordering and flocking to the newest MMO.. People want a game so bad they really dont see what there looking at ..next up Aion get yer popcorn..
I posted it once before but it needs to be said again. Funcom gets grants from the Norway government alongside their investor and internal revenue. We should make the Norway government fully aware they are co conspirators to funcoms acts of fraud. This is one reason funcom acts as they do they know they have this crutch to fall back on and can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it. It time we get funcoms funding revoked surely the people of Norway would rather see their taxes go to better projects than supporting this company.
No offence, but, hehe..hahaha. C'mon now, this is a tad over the top no? No I don't. This company has treated its customers like garbage for years and continues to do so. They have no respect for their customers and their opinions but will gladly take their money by lies false promises and outright fraud. They do not deserve any government funded grants or other handouts due to their inappropriate behavior and business practices. They don't deserve the Norwegian film fund grant or any other grant.
I'm just saying that..um..it's just over the top man. You want to form a lobby group to revert some obscure bill from the Norwegian budget based on your anger over what the game lacked? Check my history, i'm no AoC fan.
I digress though and say again..C'mon now...
EDIT: @Sourajit, your huge font-annoying orange text ensured I didn't consider reading it. I suggest you change it to something less annoying if you want readership.
FC is following companies like EA, running after the buck. It cares only for the sales figures and not about You my dear players. Why should they? They already made buckload of dosh on selling over million copies of the game in EU alone. And guess what? Everyone who wants to play it, has to buy no piracy here! brilliant!
EA's CEO, that rat-bastard, blatantly said in an interview with Financial Times, that quality of games doesnt matter anymore, it's all about sales and HYPE before release. I think FC took his words to heart.
Right now console market IS the most profitable gaming niche. What FC is doing is pretty logical in business terms in order to make money out of mature PC gamers and then out of kids playing their consoles.
The plan is simple:
First: draw the attention of PC gamers with mature content, sieges, PvP all the stuff that scares kids away.
Second: make truckload of cash on initial sales and watch them play it and TEST it for yourself before releasing on XBOX and PS3. Subs number doesnt really matter, as soon as console version hits the market (first MMORPG on consoles) its going to wipe out PC gamers 10:1 ratio.
Third: take all the comments and posts and wipe your corporate butt with it, because you already have a plan and no amount of posts and trolling or flaming going to change that. Besides everyone laughs at internet forums, anyway, right?
Fourth: make another pile of money on XBOX and PS3 release, and then if you can still be bothered to suck money out of people, support few servers , but all in all Youre rolling in the money now, so you can as well leave the gaming business...
And during all that remember to always do the HYPE and PR. As long as they flame You on internet forums it doesnt matter. Console gamers dont read them so we dont care.
What we care are all the live interviews, TV appearances, expos and conventions...
So if You really want to hit FC in the balls, stop whining on forums, go to an expo or a con, shout that they're liars and the game sucks, make a YouTube video of it, make a picket line in front of their booth with protests written in capitals on big white sheets... Let's see how will they react, how PR machine damage control works. And then do it again and again...
Still, it won't change a thing but think of how much fun you'd have and not have wasted it on playing AoC.
Funcom and AoC and its discussions are endless. No matter how many times I have come back to write about AoC or Funcom , I have got banned and my temporary ban gets me out of writing in this site.
I am really amazed about this company or the games. Anarchy online is still my favorite but you cannot give any good suggestions to this company at all. The reason is they do not need it. They give a damn about their players and as a result their players just sway to other games. They hype and keep the forums running to keep the interest at par for AoC but do not make it popular through populating the gaming world or through gaming.
I am still without an answer why Funcom being one of the pioneers of sensible gaming is switching to Korean grind versions, when it could have easily dominated the market with the blend of intelligence and fun.
I still remember when Anarchy Online went F2p and there were thousands of players joining everyday to make new guilds and make Anarchy Online a part of life. All the customer supports were working and everything was just awesome. People played the game liked it and bought it and those who were real players they even parked a few toons at the highest level and got a free shadowland expansion for an year. These kinds of ways get games going and people make friends and keep on playing and the game world and the items market along with this flow JUST ROCKS!
But Oh Boy ! Oh Boy ! , Funcom won’t try out their time wasted ways to make a game popular instead they would like to make money now and no matter how bad the development and features of AoC is , it is still going to be discussed and players like me who have been playing games for decades will get banned for telling the truth.
Now this open letter discussion , a few days again I log back in I will have another forum post started that discusses Aoc. It is time now that Funcom should realize that it should give up trying to sell AoC.
Suggestions for betterment , though I know there are better marketing machineries that are doing so wonderful a job that this game which is more of a waste of time from your sleeping hours is being sold somewhere. But the question is how many days can you carry on selling a stupid product?
I am waiting to get banned as most of my Aoc beta testing and afterwards issues written here have earned me a ban , I do not care but if it is Funcom , I will write as I always thought that company had game loving people but now I have found they have money making systems that cannot take your free will but a few dollars may be .
Cheers
A point...or just pointless rambling? Even after I changed the wall of text to something more readable...still not sure what the point is.
This is a game. Let it go, move on. If you feel a company is scamming you, then go through legal channels. Other than that, you look like 12 years old crying about a video game.
1. Software such as this MMO will always have bugs
2. If you are not satisfied with the game, cancel your subscription.
3. It is not the end of the world... for the Horde!
In the start i was actually considering coming back after they got all the content in, as they told us would be there, or fixed those who were beyond rescue.
But after those months or weeks now have passed, i've also come to the one conclusion that this game is totally doomed because of the company behind it, and that there is no fixing it ever, as the company itself doesn't try changing their completely lame attitude towards their customers/gamers.
This game had so much potential but sadly it has gone to waste.... =/
Maybe if the DX10 is like a "zomg crysis times 10) in GFX it might be okay to waste a few money just to check it out again but quite frankly, when that time comes i think there will be a few other DX10 games out who will deliver a little more entertainment .
Oh well wasted money? Nah had fun the first 50 levels, hell you throw out more money when you're in town or in nightclubs, so no biggie really, other than this company prolly deserve a very slow and cruel death.
Gaute Godager is in charge of AoC. He almost ruined AO (Sillirrion saved it), and now he is on a mission to completely destroy AoC. That man is a walking disaster. Too bad he will probably stick with the company to the end since he is one of the founders. Heh, if I ever had the money, and the will to buy that company, he would be the first one I sack
I totally agree with you, slask777. The problem is that Gaute now has his hands back in AO as well, pulling all of their customer service people to deal with AoC, screwing up billing by making the billing for both Ao and AoC intertwined the same as customer service so he can save the bucks, and so forth. Sillirion did a wonderful job with AO, but Gaute has already undermined most of that in the last few months. The possiblilty of AO getting its graphics upgrade has been put in jeapordy by Gaute and his AoC turd, more and more players are leaving AO ( including even the froobs who don't even pay ).
Waht made me leave Conan - The people moaning about how bad it was all the time.
In a post earlier, sombody mentioned that Funcom may start blaming people for bad PR, and I tell you what I agree with them!!!
Its the community/players that make a game work.
Here is a prediction for you all - There will never be a great new groundbreaking MMORPG game, people will always be unhappy with whatever is released, as its not like what you currently play - a 2-5year established game!!
Launches of all games for the first few months are terrible, but I would guess 99% of the people moaning never experienced a game release, or it was so far back when they did, there was nothing to compare it to - so wouldnt know if it was good/bad.
Just think, it wont be long until you can start flaming WAR
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Waht made me leave Conan - The people moaning about how bad it was all the time. In a post earlier, sombody mentioned that Funcom may start blaming people for bad PR, and I tell you what I agree with them!!! Its the community/players that make a game work.
Here is a prediction for you all - There will never be a great new groundbreaking MMORPG game, people will always be unhappy with whatever is released, as its not like what you currently play - a 2-5year established game!! Launches of all games for the first few months are terrible, but I would guess 99% of the people moaning never experienced a game release, or it was so far back when they did, there was nothing to compare it to - so wouldnt know if it was good/bad.
Just think, it wont be long until you can start flaming WAR
I agree with you 150%. It does seem that the hate is amplified beyond the norm of AOC and I believe alot of that has to do with negative contact with Funcom. The game itself is, in my opinion, fun, and things are being fixed at a rapid pace.
If Funcom was not so blatantly lying in the face of everyone since CB on, decide to stick their head into the sand and ignore all negative feedback with the "we know best" attitude, I bet people would cut them alot more slack and be much more tolerant. This way they get treated the way they decided they should treat their paying customers - they get the shaft.
At this point everything FC does is going to be microanalised for slightest little slips and then crap is going to get thrown over it from all sides, even if they do manage to do something decent. But frankly - they kinda deserve it - they are eating the soup they cooked themselves, and if it tastes like crap, it is their own fault.
Waht made me leave Conan - The people moaning about how bad it was all the time. In a post earlier, sombody mentioned that Funcom may start blaming people for bad PR, and I tell you what I agree with them!!! Its the community/players that make a game work.
Here is a prediction for you all - There will never be a great new groundbreaking MMORPG game, people will always be unhappy with whatever is released, as its not like what you currently play - a 2-5year established game!! Launches of all games for the first few months are terrible, but I would guess 99% of the people moaning never experienced a game release, or it was so far back when they did, there was nothing to compare it to - so wouldnt know if it was good/bad.
Just think, it wont be long until you can start flaming WAR
I'm sorry, but blaming the community/playerbase for the failures instead of the utter incompetence of the devs is the last ditch effort for fanboys defending their game.
When a game reaches this point in JUST TWO MONTHS, you know it's beyond hope that this game will ever recover.
If Funcom was not so blatantly lying in the face of everyone since CB on, decide to stick their head into the sand and ignore all negative feedback with the "we know best" attitude, I bet people would cut them alot more slack and be much more tolerant. This way they get treated the way they decided they should treat their paying customers - they get the shaft. At this point everything FC does is going to be microanalised for slightest little slips and then crap is going to get thrown over it from all sides, even if they do manage to do something decent. But frankly - they kinda deserve it - they are eating the soup they cooked themselves, and if it tastes like crap, it is their own fault.
This is exactly right. WOW had major server issues when it launched, but they were honest and told the players exactly what they were doing to fix it ( did not ship boxes to retailers until they had more servers up).
Failcom literally is putting their fingers in their ears and screaming "we had a great launch"... they were also blantenly dishonest when they did not allow the beta testers to go past lvl 20. The thing that is driving players away is not neccessarily the bugs and lack of content, it is the absolute disbelief that failcom cares or is willing to do the things necessary to get the game fixed. When the vast majority of your players are bailing on you, and all you can do is talk about how 'great' the launch was and hype the first expansion... that just tells your current players that you really don't care about the gameplay or fun-factor of your game. It doesn't matter about the current state of the game.. what matters is we don't think they are going to make it any better.
The problem is, Funcom doesn't listen to anyone. The MMORPG.com interview with E.E clearly shows that. He had no idea that people were complaining that Funcom were ripping the mature content from the game. Its one of the most talked about topics ever on the offical forums, with thousands and thousands of post proving it. Somehow that slipped past them. They do not listen to their player base at all.
They value Pr more than they value customers.Which is always a recipe for disaster. Their next step will be blaming players for the bad PR . Prepare to be known as the "Vocal Minority".
Zing. Memories of SOE. Ah those were the days.
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Originally posted by Azrile
Originally posted by Moodah
If Funcom was not so blatantly lying in the face of everyone since CB on, decide to stick their head into the sand and ignore all negative feedback with the "we know best" attitude, I bet people would cut them alot more slack and be much more tolerant. This way they get treated the way they decided they should treat their paying customers - they get the shaft. At this point everything FC does is going to be microanalised for slightest little slips and then crap is going to get thrown over it from all sides, even if they do manage to do something decent. But frankly - they kinda deserve it - they are eating the soup they cooked themselves, and if it tastes like crap, it is their own fault.
This is exactly right. WOW had major server issues when it launched, but they were honest and told the players exactly what they were doing to fix it ( did not ship boxes to retailers until they had more servers up).
Failcom literally is putting their fingers in their ears and screaming "we had a great launch"... they were also blantenly dishonest when they did not allow the beta testers to go past lvl 20. The thing that is driving players away is not neccessarily the bugs and lack of content, it is the absolute disbelief that failcom cares or is willing to do the things necessary to get the game fixed. When the vast majority of your players are bailing on you, and all you can do is talk about how 'great' the launch was and hype the first expansion... that just tells your current players that you really don't care about the gameplay or fun-factor of your game. It doesn't matter about the current state of the game.. what matters is we don't think they are going to make it any better.
CB testers were at level 80 a year before release? OB testers were given no level cap a week b4 release. I wouldn't call the pages of patches not doing anything because they are, my experience has changed alot in some area's, and making alt's I am not experiencing issues I had to start with. Some class balances i find are a littel questionable, but I never expected balance to begin with. We think they are making it better from the positive experiences gained in game, thats first hand experience in sieges and raids.
Funcom need to come out as speak player to player, because the current state of the game is the most important factor. I'd rather they put more resources into fixing it up than on an expansion right now.
I don't think Funcom even knows how to fix this game. Seeing as how the game looks thrown together, I just don't see the talent level to make this a great game. Sure they can fix stuff like npc's standing on chairs to make it look like they're doing something, but I don't think the core aspects of the game will change dramatically. What I see in the future for AoC, is FC releasing new content to try and make people forget about the core elements that're flawed. But I don't see anything getting polished, or the features working as they were initially thought to work. If there was ONE major aspect that was polished, the heat wouldn't be too bad on FC right now. But two of the major components, PvE and PvP, aren't even close to being polished or "working as intended". My advice to Funcom would be to get new Dev's, QA....screw it, completely overhaul your company, because I see nothing but incompetence from the top down.
You hit the nail right on the head, this company needs an overhaul from the top down nd I suspect just from the top would be enough when the people who run a compnay have so much obvious disdain for the desires of there customer base it's hard to expect that the customer service those people hire will act any differently
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
I don't think Funcom even knows how to fix this game. Seeing as how the game looks thrown together, I just don't see the talent level to make this a great game. Sure they can fix stuff like npc's standing on chairs to make it look like they're doing something, but I don't think the core aspects of the game will change dramatically. What I see in the future for AoC, is FC releasing new content to try and make people forget about the core elements that're flawed. But I don't see anything getting polished, or the features working as they were initially thought to work. If there was ONE major aspect that was polished, the heat wouldn't be too bad on FC right now. But two of the major components, PvE and PvP, aren't even close to being polished or "working as intended". My advice to Funcom would be to get new Dev's, QA....screw it, completely overhaul your company, because I see nothing but incompetence from the top down.
You hit the nail right on the head, this company needs an overhaul from the top down nd I suspect just from the top would be enough when the people who run a compnay have so much obvious disdain for the desires of there customer base it's hard to expect that the customer service those people hire will act any differently
Gaute is the man to question, and any long term player of AO will be able to tell you of his tenure as that game's director. Opinion is almost unanimous that Anarchy Online has improved dramatically since Gaute's move to the AOC team.
Step 1: fire Gaute Godager.
Step 2: promote the most forums-active QA lead to Game Director
Waht made me leave Conan - The people moaning about how bad it was all the time. In a post earlier, sombody mentioned that Funcom may start blaming people for bad PR, and I tell you what I agree with them!!! Its the community/players that make a game work.
Here is a prediction for you all - There will never be a great new groundbreaking MMORPG game, people will always be unhappy with whatever is released, as its not like what you currently play - a 2-5year established game!! Launches of all games for the first few months are terrible, but I would guess 99% of the people moaning never experienced a game release, or it was so far back when they did, there was nothing to compare it to - so wouldnt know if it was good/bad.
Just think, it wont be long until you can start flaming WAR
I'm sorry, but blaming the community/playerbase for the failures instead of the utter incompetence of the devs is the last ditch effort for fanboys defending their game.
When a game reaches this point in JUST TWO MONTHS, you know it's beyond hope that this game will ever recover.
I agree. What these fanboys forget is that people aren't just bitching to be bitching. They have legitimate complaints -- stats that don't work right, no real itemization, borked sieges and pvp, memory leaks, a host of bugs, complete changes to some classes on a weekly basis, broken feats, and more. Then to top it off, we get incompetent devs, volunteer mods who make things worse, the worst petition system ever invented, and very little communication -- most of which turns out to be lies anyway.
If there were ever a time since NGE when players had a right to bitch about something, it is now with AoC.
Originally posted by AmazingAvery Originally posted by Azrile Originally posted by Moodah If Funcom was not so blatantly lying in the face of everyone since CB on, decide to stick their head into the sand and ignore all negative feedback with the "we know best" attitude, I bet people would cut them alot more slack and be much more tolerant. This way they get treated the way they decided they should treat their paying customers - they get the shaft. At this point everything FC does is going to be microanalised for slightest little slips and then crap is going to get thrown over it from all sides, even if they do manage to do something decent. But frankly - they kinda deserve it - they are eating the soup they cooked themselves, and if it tastes like crap, it is their own fault.
This is exactly right. WOW had major server issues when it launched, but they were honest and told the players exactly what they were doing to fix it ( did not ship boxes to retailers until they had more servers up). Failcom literally is putting their fingers in their ears and screaming "we had a great launch"... they were also blantenly dishonest when they did not allow the beta testers to go past lvl 20. The thing that is driving players away is not neccessarily the bugs and lack of content, it is the absolute disbelief that failcom cares or is willing to do the things necessary to get the game fixed. When the vast majority of your players are bailing on you, and all you can do is talk about how 'great' the launch was and hype the first expansion... that just tells your current players that you really don't care about the gameplay or fun-factor of your game. It doesn't matter about the current state of the game.. what matters is we don't think they are going to make it any better.
CB testers were at level 80 a year before release? OB testers were given no level cap a week b4 release. I wouldn't call the pages of patches not doing anything because they are, my experience has changed alot in some area's, and making alt's I am not experiencing issues I had to start with. Some class balances i find are a littel questionable, but I never expected balance to begin with. We think they are making it better from the positive experiences gained in game, thats first hand experience in sieges and raids.
Funcom need to come out as speak player to player, because the current state of the game is the most important factor. I'd rather they put more resources into fixing it up than on an expansion right now. But the expansion is the bug fix and it will cost $50.
For the love of God and the sake of the quality of future MMOs, let this game die a horrible death. It would bring a great message to all future makers of MMOs that you can't paint crap yellow and call it gold.
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Paying for Aoc, is the same as paying for beta.
Beta:
GW, WOW, AOC, DAOC, DOD, L2, VG.
Playd:
GW necro msx, WOW never maxd, DAOC reaver-paladin-cabalist-vamp max, L2 never maxd, VG never maxd.
Play:
Daoc - Paladin. Classic.
I posted it once before but it needs to be said again. Funcom gets grants from the Norway government alongside their investor and internal revenue. We should make the Norway government fully aware they are co conspirators to funcoms acts of fraud. This is one reason funcom acts as they do they know they have this crutch to fall back on and can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it. It time we get funcoms funding revoked surely the people of Norway would rather see their taxes go to better projects than supporting this company.
No offence, but, hehe..hahaha. C'mon now, this is a tad over the top no?
Ironlore (the people behind TQ) and the developers behind Crysis (cant remember their name) both came out around the same time to state that it was piracy that was killing them and the PC gaming community. Too bad they failed to notice that piracy on all consoles/handhelds is pretty common. Thankfully Ironlore closed up shop, and don't know anyone that really cares about the Crysis dev team.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7300033012
No offence, but, hehe..hahaha. C'mon now, this is a tad over the top no?
No I don't. This company has treated its customers like garbage for years and continues to do so. They have no respect for their customers and their opinions but will gladly take their money by lies false promises and outright fraud. They do not deserve any government funded grants or other handouts due to their inappropriate behavior and business practices. They don't deserve the Norwegian film fund grant or any other grant.
AoC and Funcom did not disapoint at all they turned out exactly what they were developing (a steaming pile) The ideas and core mechanics of there x-platform dung pile were pretty obvious dam shame so many couldnt see it for what it is and spent there time and money ... The list keeps growing of these failures from devs that you know have put out sub par games and have sub par CS.. And yet people just keep preordering and flocking to the newest MMO.. People want a game so bad they really dont see what there looking at ..next up Aion get yer popcorn..
No offence, but, hehe..hahaha. C'mon now, this is a tad over the top no?
No I don't. This company has treated its customers like garbage for years and continues to do so. They have no respect for their customers and their opinions but will gladly take their money by lies false promises and outright fraud. They do not deserve any government funded grants or other handouts due to their inappropriate behavior and business practices. They don't deserve the Norwegian film fund grant or any other grant.
I'm just saying that..um..it's just over the top man. You want to form a lobby group to revert some obscure bill from the Norwegian budget based on your anger over what the game lacked? Check my history, i'm no AoC fan.
I digress though and say again..C'mon now...
EDIT: @Sourajit, your huge font-annoying orange text ensured I didn't consider reading it. I suggest you change it to something less annoying if you want readership.
FC is following companies like EA, running after the buck. It cares only for the sales figures and not about You my dear players. Why should they? They already made buckload of dosh on selling over million copies of the game in EU alone. And guess what? Everyone who wants to play it, has to buy no piracy here! brilliant!
EA's CEO, that rat-bastard, blatantly said in an interview with Financial Times, that quality of games doesnt matter anymore, it's all about sales and HYPE before release. I think FC took his words to heart.
Right now console market IS the most profitable gaming niche. What FC is doing is pretty logical in business terms in order to make money out of mature PC gamers and then out of kids playing their consoles.
The plan is simple:
First: draw the attention of PC gamers with mature content, sieges, PvP all the stuff that scares kids away.
Second: make truckload of cash on initial sales and watch them play it and TEST it for yourself before releasing on XBOX and PS3. Subs number doesnt really matter, as soon as console version hits the market (first MMORPG on consoles) its going to wipe out PC gamers 10:1 ratio.
Third: take all the comments and posts and wipe your corporate butt with it, because you already have a plan and no amount of posts and trolling or flaming going to change that. Besides everyone laughs at internet forums, anyway, right?
Fourth: make another pile of money on XBOX and PS3 release, and then if you can still be bothered to suck money out of people, support few servers , but all in all Youre rolling in the money now, so you can as well leave the gaming business...
And during all that remember to always do the HYPE and PR. As long as they flame You on internet forums it doesnt matter. Console gamers dont read them so we dont care.
What we care are all the live interviews, TV appearances, expos and conventions...
So if You really want to hit FC in the balls, stop whining on forums, go to an expo or a con, shout that they're liars and the game sucks, make a YouTube video of it, make a picket line in front of their booth with protests written in capitals on big white sheets... Let's see how will they react, how PR machine damage control works. And then do it again and again...
Still, it won't change a thing but think of how much fun you'd have and not have wasted it on playing AoC.
This is a game. Let it go, move on. If you feel a company is scamming you, then go through legal channels. Other than that, you look like 12 years old crying about a video game.
1. Software such as this MMO will always have bugs
2. If you are not satisfied with the game, cancel your subscription.
3. It is not the end of the world... for the Horde!
In the start i was actually considering coming back after they got all the content in, as they told us would be there, or fixed those who were beyond rescue.
But after those months or weeks now have passed, i've also come to the one conclusion that this game is totally doomed because of the company behind it, and that there is no fixing it ever, as the company itself doesn't try changing their completely lame attitude towards their customers/gamers.
This game had so much potential but sadly it has gone to waste.... =/
Maybe if the DX10 is like a "zomg crysis times 10) in GFX it might be okay to waste a few money just to check it out again but quite frankly, when that time comes i think there will be a few other DX10 games out who will deliver a little more entertainment .
Oh well wasted money? Nah had fun the first 50 levels, hell you throw out more money when you're in town or in nightclubs, so no biggie really, other than this company prolly deserve a very slow and cruel death.
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I totally agree with you, slask777. The problem is that Gaute now has his hands back in AO as well, pulling all of their customer service people to deal with AoC, screwing up billing by making the billing for both Ao and AoC intertwined the same as customer service so he can save the bucks, and so forth. Sillirion did a wonderful job with AO, but Gaute has already undermined most of that in the last few months. The possiblilty of AO getting its graphics upgrade has been put in jeapordy by Gaute and his AoC turd, more and more players are leaving AO ( including even the froobs who don't even pay ).
All i can say to funcom is take your left hand grab your right ear, take your right hand grab your left ear and pull.
the loude popping sound that follows is there head poping out of there butts.
Waht made me leave Conan - The people moaning about how bad it was all the time.
In a post earlier, sombody mentioned that Funcom may start blaming people for bad PR, and I tell you what I agree with them!!!
Its the community/players that make a game work.
Here is a prediction for you all - There will never be a great new groundbreaking MMORPG game, people will always be unhappy with whatever is released, as its not like what you currently play - a 2-5year established game!!
Launches of all games for the first few months are terrible, but I would guess 99% of the people moaning never experienced a game release, or it was so far back when they did, there was nothing to compare it to - so wouldnt know if it was good/bad.
Just think, it wont be long until you can start flaming WAR
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I agree with you 150%. It does seem that the hate is amplified beyond the norm of AOC and I believe alot of that has to do with negative contact with Funcom. The game itself is, in my opinion, fun, and things are being fixed at a rapid pace.
If Funcom was not so blatantly lying in the face of everyone since CB on, decide to stick their head into the sand and ignore all negative feedback with the "we know best" attitude, I bet people would cut them alot more slack and be much more tolerant. This way they get treated the way they decided they should treat their paying customers - they get the shaft.
At this point everything FC does is going to be microanalised for slightest little slips and then crap is going to get thrown over it from all sides, even if they do manage to do something decent. But frankly - they kinda deserve it - they are eating the soup they cooked themselves, and if it tastes like crap, it is their own fault.
I'm sorry, but blaming the community/playerbase for the failures instead of the utter incompetence of the devs is the last ditch effort for fanboys defending their game.
When a game reaches this point in JUST TWO MONTHS, you know it's beyond hope that this game will ever recover.
This is exactly right. WOW had major server issues when it launched, but they were honest and told the players exactly what they were doing to fix it ( did not ship boxes to retailers until they had more servers up).
Failcom literally is putting their fingers in their ears and screaming "we had a great launch"... they were also blantenly dishonest when they did not allow the beta testers to go past lvl 20. The thing that is driving players away is not neccessarily the bugs and lack of content, it is the absolute disbelief that failcom cares or is willing to do the things necessary to get the game fixed. When the vast majority of your players are bailing on you, and all you can do is talk about how 'great' the launch was and hype the first expansion... that just tells your current players that you really don't care about the gameplay or fun-factor of your game. It doesn't matter about the current state of the game.. what matters is we don't think they are going to make it any better.
They value Pr more than they value customers.Which is always a recipe for disaster. Their next step will be blaming players for the bad PR . Prepare to be known as the "Vocal Minority".
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This is exactly right. WOW had major server issues when it launched, but they were honest and told the players exactly what they were doing to fix it ( did not ship boxes to retailers until they had more servers up).
Failcom literally is putting their fingers in their ears and screaming "we had a great launch"... they were also blantenly dishonest when they did not allow the beta testers to go past lvl 20. The thing that is driving players away is not neccessarily the bugs and lack of content, it is the absolute disbelief that failcom cares or is willing to do the things necessary to get the game fixed. When the vast majority of your players are bailing on you, and all you can do is talk about how 'great' the launch was and hype the first expansion... that just tells your current players that you really don't care about the gameplay or fun-factor of your game. It doesn't matter about the current state of the game.. what matters is we don't think they are going to make it any better.
CB testers were at level 80 a year before release? OB testers were given no level cap a week b4 release. I wouldn't call the pages of patches not doing anything because they are, my experience has changed alot in some area's, and making alt's I am not experiencing issues I had to start with. Some class balances i find are a littel questionable, but I never expected balance to begin with. We think they are making it better from the positive experiences gained in game, thats first hand experience in sieges and raids.
Funcom need to come out as speak player to player, because the current state of the game is the most important factor. I'd rather they put more resources into fixing it up than on an expansion right now.
You hit the nail right on the head, this company needs an overhaul from the top down nd I suspect just from the top would be enough when the people who run a compnay have so much obvious disdain for the desires of there customer base it's hard to expect that the customer service those people hire will act any differently
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
You hit the nail right on the head, this company needs an overhaul from the top down nd I suspect just from the top would be enough when the people who run a compnay have so much obvious disdain for the desires of there customer base it's hard to expect that the customer service those people hire will act any differently
Gaute is the man to question, and any long term player of AO will be able to tell you of his tenure as that game's director. Opinion is almost unanimous that Anarchy Online has improved dramatically since Gaute's move to the AOC team.
Step 1: fire Gaute Godager.
Step 2: promote the most forums-active QA lead to Game Director
Step 3: Profit.
I'm sorry, but blaming the community/playerbase for the failures instead of the utter incompetence of the devs is the last ditch effort for fanboys defending their game.
When a game reaches this point in JUST TWO MONTHS, you know it's beyond hope that this game will ever recover.
I agree. What these fanboys forget is that people aren't just bitching to be bitching. They have legitimate complaints -- stats that don't work right, no real itemization, borked sieges and pvp, memory leaks, a host of bugs, complete changes to some classes on a weekly basis, broken feats, and more. Then to top it off, we get incompetent devs, volunteer mods who make things worse, the worst petition system ever invented, and very little communication -- most of which turns out to be lies anyway.
If there were ever a time since NGE when players had a right to bitch about something, it is now with AoC.
This is exactly right. WOW had major server issues when it launched, but they were honest and told the players exactly what they were doing to fix it ( did not ship boxes to retailers until they had more servers up).
Failcom literally is putting their fingers in their ears and screaming "we had a great launch"... they were also blantenly dishonest when they did not allow the beta testers to go past lvl 20. The thing that is driving players away is not neccessarily the bugs and lack of content, it is the absolute disbelief that failcom cares or is willing to do the things necessary to get the game fixed. When the vast majority of your players are bailing on you, and all you can do is talk about how 'great' the launch was and hype the first expansion... that just tells your current players that you really don't care about the gameplay or fun-factor of your game. It doesn't matter about the current state of the game.. what matters is we don't think they are going to make it any better.
CB testers were at level 80 a year before release? OB testers were given no level cap a week b4 release. I wouldn't call the pages of patches not doing anything because they are, my experience has changed alot in some area's, and making alt's I am not experiencing issues I had to start with. Some class balances i find are a littel questionable, but I never expected balance to begin with. We think they are making it better from the positive experiences gained in game, thats first hand experience in sieges and raids.
Funcom need to come out as speak player to player, because the current state of the game is the most important factor. I'd rather they put more resources into fixing it up than on an expansion right now.
But the expansion is the bug fix and it will cost $50.
For the love of God and the sake of the quality of future MMOs, let this game die a horrible death. It would bring a great message to all future makers of MMOs that you can't paint crap yellow and call it gold.