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Seriously, The AoC community has to be worst I have ever seen. It's funny how "mature" content brings out a immature group of ppl. It reminds me of Public Transportation where the most damage of property is caused by the people who need to use it..lol. I am trying DaoC trial since there isnt much left to play and there community is the way all games should be. Everyone tries to be helpful...no kids and lonely adults trying to vie for attention like AoC.
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This just boggles me every time. A game advertises breasts, blood and decapitations as it's selling points, and people complain about the immaturity of the community? Come on, this kind of 'content' is only going to draw out the pale, slavering masses and the fanbois/kiddies constantly screaming hysterical fits about how 'l33t' their game is.
Honestly, when have breasts or gore ever brought out mature people?
BOOBIES! *runs frantically to this new found object*
/rant off
I agree with you.
Community is just as nasty as any other, FC just did a real bad job of moderating the forums, and communicating. The result is a rowdy angry group with agendas.
If they communicated, the player base would have cut them some slack. If they had hired professional mods from day one, the boards wouldn't have imploded.
Ive gotta disagree. I personally found the AoC community to be a only few notches above 4chan. Other communities ive been involved with have been miles ahead of AoC
Hopefully when wowhammer comes out most of trolls will go over there an wreak havoc in the game forum.
As much the game is single play friendly as much worst is the community.
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration
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Easy, it will not happen, because WAR is many years ahead of AoC in terms of community and development. And don't make you a fool when identify WAR with WoW. WAR have 10 years older history than WoW.
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration
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Ive gotta disagree. I personally found the AoC community to be a only few notches above 4chan. Other communities ive been involved with have been miles ahead of AoC
My point is the official boards give the impression they are nasty because they are. The difference is on most forums, take this one for example, mods keep things civil. FC decided to save a few bucks and appoint some fans as volunteer mods. Who were too late, and tend to do an unprofessional job. The result, they made things worse in some ways.
Any forum will degrade into chaos if poorly modded. As such, the AoC forums reflect that.
Mate, seriously i think you hit the nail on the head here. So simple isnt it?
GG Die_Scream.
AoC has no 'community', but it isnt anything 5to do with mature content.
We shouldnt be arguing for less adult material in a game if it's appropriate and in context... some of us, after all, are adults.
AoC, imo, has horrible group of players (not gonna use the word 'community') because it's core design (that being casual lite ez mode solo play with GPS led questing and the like) cannot deliver anything else.
Take out the need for co-operation, extended social networks, and having to maintain a decent reputation, and you have a game model that promotes asshats. In EQ1 if you had a bad rep it made getting a decent guild or group hard, in AoC it just dosent matter. Co-op games self police, solo ones don't.
I am surprised that more people don't see this tbh.
lol i was in a guild for all off 1 day all they wanted was gold and gathering of stone blocks...
"Take out the need for co-operation, extended social networks, and having to maintain a decent reputation, and you have a game model that promotes asshats. In EQ1 if you had a bad rep it made getting a decent guild or group hard, in AoC it just dosent matter. "
Your right..with no consequences or monitoring of chat is the main reason.
Sorry I disagree. This is just something folks wish to fall back on and say 'It will draw the immature!' when that in reality is not the case. One, there is the fact this game can not just be played on any type of PC. That limits the 'kiddies' extremely. Sorry but I don't buy my kids rigs that can support this type of game. I get that rig and they get the older one. If other parents do...more power to ya.
I for one have found the community being the only thing that really keeps me playing. Granted I don't know how long that shall stand as I have already pre-ordered WAR but it is what it is. My guild alone makes me feel like a youngster again (thank god) at 31 years old because most of them are older than me. It just comes down to personal experiences within the community, guild involvement and even sometimes what type of server you're on. But saying the entire AoC community is immature is by far a stretch because you would have to experience all the servers, all the guilds, etc. And I'm pretty damn certain you have not.
The noisy part of the community is immature. That meaning two groups of people: the forum-goers and the people in chat. There are always going to be actual 'good' communities, but they don't make sound. The only thing that is heard is the noisy no-goods.
For instance, back when I was in AoC beta, they had just switched all the servers to PvP, and everyone was being killed and spawn camped. The moment I hopped on the forums to mildly complain, I was just bombarded with "THIS IS NOT WOW PUSSY", "GO BACK TO WOW", "NO CAREBEARS" and "L2P"... yea okay.
As far as kids being able to play this game on their computers, it's a huge possibility. While I was still in high school (two years ago), most gamers had already surpassed minimum age of conan requirements.
Easy, it will not happen, because WAR is many years ahead of AoC in terms of community and development. And don't make you a fool when identify WAR with WoW. WAR have 10 years older history than WoW.
lol, that's what everyone said about AoC we shall see.. it's obviously not going to live up to the hype either(already did a huge content cut to make a deadline, AoC anyone?).
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Easy, it will not happen, because WAR is many years ahead of AoC in terms of community and development. And don't make you a fool when identify WAR with WoW. WAR have 10 years older history than WoW.
lol, that's what everyone said about AoC we shall see.. it's obviously not going to live up to the hype either(already did a huge content cut to make a deadline, AoC anyone?).
Not even close to compare the 2. WARs cuts were minimal if you actually knew what you were talking about.
Easy, it will not happen, because WAR is many years ahead of AoC in terms of community and development. And don't make you a fool when identify WAR with WoW. WAR have 10 years older history than WoW.
lol, that's what everyone said about AoC we shall see.. it's obviously not going to live up to the hype either(already did a huge content cut to make a deadline, AoC anyone?).
Not even close to compare the 2. WARs cuts were minimal if you actually knew what you were talking about.
I think a more important point is that months ahead of release Mythic had the integrity to come out and admit they just couldn't get it done and polished in time for release. I'm disappointed, sure, but I'll give them some credit for being upfront about it.
Fc just flat out lied right up top release and enforced the NDA to conceal the glaring short comings of the game.
Mythic have already out classed FC IMO.
Easy, it will not happen, because WAR is many years ahead of AoC in terms of community and development. And don't make you a fool when identify WAR with WoW. WAR have 10 years older history than WoW.
lol, that's what everyone said about AoC we shall see.. it's obviously not going to live up to the hype either(already did a huge content cut to make a deadline, AoC anyone?).
I bet WAR items actually have working stats, you know, the basic stuff AoC doesn't have yet.
Name one thing in AoC that is solid right now, just one. I know it won't be pve or pvp, you know, the main components of an mmo.
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Funcom still says the game is optimized for DX10 on their game boxes, yet 3 months into release and they still don't support it. Isn't this something that, you know, should be built up on at the start?
Funcom still says the game is optimized for DX10 on their game boxes, yet 3 months into release and they still don't support it. Isn't this something that, you know, should be built up on at the start?
I'm gonna say that I personally think Mythic has run their beta in a professional manner.. I never felt that way about AoC beta.
Yet.. I'm also going to freely state that I bought AoC because I have absolutely no interest in having anything to do with WAR after beta is over.
That's something that is going to have to come down to a personal choice and as such I can only state my opinion. In fact.. I'll also say..
I don't really care how professional or polished your product is.. when its the same regergitated BS I've seen in every other game in the last fews years.. It becomes a very difficult pill to swallow (for me).
If other people love the stuff.. then YAY for them.
But ya.. Mythic has been very professional in every step I've seen... if you want to compare things on that level. /shrug
Personally I'd rather have every game be awesome.. it really doesn't do anything for me.. to see these epic failures... to be honest. It would just be really nice to have this big market of great choices.. to play... instead of what we actually have...
I believe the general feel of the community over at AoC forums is due to so many people feeling ripped off and left for dead.
Hopefully other game developers/companies will take the Funcom/AoC mistake to heart and not let their game be comparable in failure. So many mistakes Funcom made. Hopefully it's been made clear to the gaming community in general that is is NOT OK to do what Funcom did. If not, we're all in for an interesting and frustrating future. It won't be much fun to see future game boards being like AoC's. Or to see future games end up being launched like AoC. Eeeek!
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I concur with your thoughts. While EA is not something I'm comfortable with, Myth scored an integrity point with this consumer.
Funcom still says the game is optimized for DX10 on their game boxes, yet 3 months into release and they still don't support it. Isn't this something that, you know, should be built up on at the start?
I'm gonna say that I personally think Mythic has run their beta in a professional manner.. I never felt that way about AoC beta.
Yet.. I'm also going to freely state that I bought AoC because I have absolutely no interest in having anything to do with WAR after beta is over.
That's something that is going to have to come down to a personal choice and as such I can only state my opinion. In fact.. I'll also say..
I don't really care how professional or polished your product is.. when its the same regergitated BS I've seen in every other game in the last fews years.. It becomes a very difficult pill to swallow (for me).
If other people love the stuff.. then YAY for them.
But ya.. Mythic has been very professional in every step I've seen... if you want to compare things on that level. /shrug
Personally I'd rather have every game be awesome.. it really doesn't do anything for me.. to see these epic failures... to be honest. It would just be really nice to have this big market of great choices.. to play... instead of what we actually have...
Obviously, good game play and a professional dev team is the brass ring, but if there has to be a choice, i'll take a professional dev team who will fix the game and communicate.
IMO, couple examples of a good dev team and a well made game, NCSoft's CoX and Turbine's LOTRO. Say what you will about the games themselves, the dev teams on both are top notch, and they have both have stable fun games.
FC failed in communication, fixes, ideas, patches (and notes), and even the official forums are garbage.
Even in a poor state at release, WAR will crush AoC, at least at first. WAR forums will be filled with the usual whining, but at least it won't be because they are treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed BS.
The community goes both ways; the volunteer moderators (well, a few of them) are worse than most of the trolls over there. They lack basic grammatical skills (confusing "your" and "you're", or "their" and "there"). They approach moderation using emotion and opinion far too strongly, instead of from a regulation perspective.
Basically, they're not doing what a "forum moderator" should be doing. That is: representing your host graciously, with a strong grasp of the communication medium that you're engaging the community in (learn to spell and structure sentences using the English language). Allowing discussions to foster and steering errant threads back into the right direction (not locking threads immediately with vague, opinion-heavy reasons). And for God's sake, if you're going to proffer your opinion within a thread and not have the common courtesy to logon to you non-moderator account first, at least make sure you have coherent, cognitive reasoning to do so - that guy "Lufkin" comes off as a complete moron (or just extremely naive), for example.
Yes, community is really bad. I understand ppl dont help to make you more powerful in pvp servers but they dont even reply for anything even about the basics of the game.
I like there are not gms in game that i know, there are not moderators and that is good cause we are adults so we dont need them. If someone insults me i will try to kill him or reply back, its simple.
I prefer gankers and ppl insulting in chats that ppl reporting to gms for stupid things, cause i think those are the real kids that need a dad to defend them. So those that complain about not having a moderator are the inmatures imo.
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Wrong and provably so. The most solo friendly MMORPG in existence is City of Heroes and it has one of the best communities.
This is not an opinion it is a provable fact since I have provided a dis-proof by counter example and you have provided a universal statement.