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amappala
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Am I the only one disgusted with ppl using contradictory words (ie BadAss, the bomb, ...)?
To me, these are appropriet words for use on the streets for ppl who are under-educated.
I am a programmer, and I want things to mean what the words mean (just like in programming).
The word "bad" now could mean good or bad, depending on the context.
The word "gtg" could mean "good to go" (which means ready), or 'got to go".
While playing mmorpg, when my groupmate says gtg, I could not tell if I should pull as he is ready, or should I stop pulling as he has to go.
I hope this "gtg" is forever removed in the mmorpg lingo.
Maybe I am too old and cannot cope with the new generation lingo.
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just act like a newb and say gtg?
but with got to go and someone says bye usually im not paying as much attention to which person is leaving... since ppl take 5 min to say bye
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"Those who brake the ninja code and rules of this world are called trash. But you know what? Those who don't take care of their comrades are even lower than trash." - Hatake Kakashi
-Selek
-Selek
I gave up a long time ago. Now, I just ignore idiots who insist on not typing out a full sentence (and usually people who can't at least capitalize the first word of a sentence). Well, if I've known them for a while and they start doing that, I just pester and annoy them until they give it up.
Now, the only people I really argue with in reference to in-game typing are those who claim they can't type "properly" because they need the extra second they save for some other reason. Even in an FPS that's a ridiculous come-back, and now people are using it in MMORPGs? It is insane, even made worse by the fact that for those few statements you need quickly you can just build a macro for them.
Yeah, I hate it when... brb...
people use that crap, it drives me... brb...
nuts.
afk...
I'm back, now where were we??
first off..bad started meaning good in what..the early 70's? you just realize this?
and furthermore, if you dont like the language used on the net stay off it, or at least where the 'offensive' laguage is used.
i dont like spanish, so i stay out of mexico.
and new york. and d.c., philly, new mexico, arizona, california, texas, florida..ok bad example ..but really..dumb grievance on your part.
imho anyway
Since when has BRB, AFK, ROFLMAO, and even IMHO, been a standard of language on the internet? News flash, back when the internet wasn't easily accessible in the common household (AKA, whiny annoying teenagers who can't spell so they insisted on forcing abbreviations on everyone) everyone spoke their language of choice in true and proper form. Well, for the most part. Dumb grievance or not, you can't really make that judgement considering you've just tried to state that a combination of ebonics and abbreviated words from the English language is a language in and of itself.
well i was just joking around really.
but as far as a language in and of itself, yeah it kind of is. go to any ghetto and tell them to speak proper english, same difference. except you will make it out alive from this forum.
Actually, now you're refering to "Dialects" of a language.
Welcome to the net in the 2000's.
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Haha, I love 1337 speak, it's hilarious.
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Now you're treading on serious ground. 1337 speak (as you put it) was formed and developed for a very real and meaningful purpose. It wasn't something somebody just thought up one day for amusement. Anyone who uses it as such just provides proof as to their character.
Anc| //|-|a+ |<1//c| 0f (|-|aRa(+3r 15 +|-|a+????
(And what kind of character is that????)
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-Anarchyart
All you friggin suburban white kid wannabe poobutts that are in love with G-Unit are sad and pathetic. Find your own identity
Haha, I know... but now it's just funny :P
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hi2u! can i hav sum mone?! kthxbye!
^ noob-speak ^
//455uP?! 1 4|/| 50 4//350|/|3!
^ d00d or 1337(leet) speak ^
AHHHHH!! Train to base! Someone help me!!!
^ My top 3 chat macros usually include those words followed by the type of person chasing me ^
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Badmouthing second-rate MMORPGs since 1998
Gandalf: "JOO SHALL NOT PASS!"
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Badmouthing second-rate MMORPGs since 1998
Gandalf: "JOO SHALL NOT PASS!"
Avatar from www.Squidi.net
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''All the people say i'm pretty fly for a rabbi'' ~weird al
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''All the people say i'm pretty fly for a rabbi'' ~weird al
First off, I'd like people to calm down a bit and not resort to name-calling. We can have an interesting discussion with many points of view expressed without provoking hostilities.
On one hand, I can understand your point where specificity is lacking when using shorthand, i.e. the "gtg"="got to go" or "good to go".
I don't think, however, that there are really that many acronymic terms or slang words that are so contentious. As you've said, slang is "creeping to everyday conversations/posts"; this is certainly as true now as it was back when you were in high school.
In regards to your two examples, I am not personally "disgusted" when people use slang terms like "bad ass" and "da bomb". As to their contradictory meaning, if one were to be specific, many words have different and/or opposite meanings than that which they were originally intended. For instance, "terrific" has come to describe something very good, when originally intended to describe something very bad (in analogy, "horrific" from "horrible", "terrific" from "terrible"). Were you to remark to someone in a casual conversation on the improper usage of "terrific", you would most likely be taken for a linguistic snob. Also, these terms are (to me) rather old as far as current "street language" is concerned, and I quite frankly I am rather surprised to find someone who has not yet accepted their newer meanings.
More intriguing to me is the reason for your displeasure against "gtg" and other slang words; was the original post written out of frustration? Have you perhaps placed undue anger and criticism towards slang terminology, displacing it from some other issue you have with a particular person/people? Are you annoyed at the proliferation of slang in your daily life and/or popular culture?
Whatever the case may be, I think it is safe to say that "gtg" will be around in MMORPGs for the foreseeable future; it will be up to you to figure out how you will deal with its usage, since other players are unlikely to stop using it.
Here is something from the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language regarding "street language" that you may find interesting:
Most people might think that the slang usage of bad to mean its opposite, excellent, is a recent innovation of Black English. While it is of Black English origin, this usage has been recorded for over a century; the first known example dates from 1897. Even earlier, beginning in the 1850s, the word appears in the sense formidable, very tough, as applied to persons. Whether or not the two usages are related, they both illustrate a favorite creative device of informal and slang languageusing a word to mean the opposite of what it really means. This is by no means uncommon; people use words sarcastically to mean the opposite of their actual meanings on a daily basis. What is more unusual is for such a usage to be generally accepted within a larger community. Perhaps when the concepts are as basic as good and bad this general acceptance is made easier. A similar instance is the word uptight, which in the 1960s enjoyed usage in the sense excellent alongside its now-current, negative meaning of stiff.
as a new member to mmorpg.com, i felt instantly alienated by all the abbreviations. some of them i just gave up on. people write them to save themselves time, and probably hoping the reader saves time too. who likes to write something and not be read? nobody. instead of speeding up my reading, i was turned away from their messages. 'shooting one self in the foot' springs to mind. possibly even ironical in that, you think youre appealing more to your readers by writing shorter messages, but instead you are turning some away because it is unreadable to the untrained eye.
as far as gtg/g2g is concerned, and all abbreviations i suppose. wouldnt it be possible to write the abbreviated version (if you so wish) but for the program to translate it into english? i imagine, compared to half of these massively multiplayer online roleplaying games, that the programming of this would be very easy.
are there any grown up massively multiplayer online roleplaying games where people speak normal english. i imagine that everquest is not the ideal choice for this, from what ive heard about its community.
i dont use caps when i should. I don't use capital lettering when I ought to. both sentences do the same job, but one was written in about half the time.
tommy.
It's not lazy or for the stupid, it's a modified form of short hand for the net gen. Nothing more. It's very usfull in MMO's when you have to type the message really quick before your man pulls another enemy. If you don;t understand the terminology just ask, I've never flamed anyome for asking, and I've never seen anyone flamed by asking... Actually I did once, and I flamed the guy for being a dick for it. It serves a purpose the same way as variables do in programing. And programming is an excellent comparison just because to outside observers both look like gibberish.
**ADDED** Oh yea, I should also add, I was clueless to alot of terms, and I found out by asking
People create the languages, lots of words that get introduced as 'official' words in dictionaries are started as a fad and then picked up by everyone. Probably the word 'fad' was sneered at by nimkonpoops just like yourself back when it was invented by some forward strapping young lad. If you cant take it that the language is a dynamic tool for communicating then perhaps you should go live in a monastary and hide underneath a blanket, then you might be safe from change. The fact that youre a programmer should indicate some level of intelligence on your part, racking down on something as dynamic and everchanging like language is pretty dim. How would the games of today have looked if cobal was still the #1 programming language? Pretty hard to communicate your own visions with a backwater tool like that...
Anyone that knows one iota of language history knows that change is never bad. The romans didnt perish due to someone saying Fuckae Maximusass once too many, it was the actions not the words...
Oh and on a sidenote, 'y' is short for 'WHY' not 'yes'...
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Do you think it's appropriate to consider irony of your comments here?
I hate ghetto english, and lots of ppl here are telling me to get off the net and stay in a monastery.
Has the net been turned into a ghetto?
Or, are these under-educated ppl bullying the decent ppl out of the net? (just like in the ghetto, the bullies force their ways to others)
Are these ppl saying that all ppl who dont like ghetto english should leave the net?
I hate ultra vulgar speaking ppl too.
I bet these ppl will tell me to stop playing mmorpg (good thing most mmorpg have vulgar blocking system, although I turn that off everytime).
Most likely if I move to a monastery, and vulgar speaking ppl pass by, and I expressed my views, ppl will tell me to get off this planet if I dont like it, and that I should live on the moon.
I applaud Rubies of Eventide, as they dont cater to vulgar mouth players, and requires everybody to play nice. Pls dont tell Rubies of Eventide to get out of the net because it doesnt comform to the REBELIOUS notion that "if u dont like me, then get out, eventhou this is your house".
Why am I continuing this dumb discussion? It is because I want to express my view, and the view of alot of the decent ppl, that alot of ppl still want to block ghetto english from creeping to every aspect of our communication.
And pls stop being like a ghetto bully, that anyone of disagree to your opinion should be bullied out or bullied into submission.
Im not trying to bully you, i just said that if you wanted to live without change you would only find it under a blanket in a monestary. And saying that we who are disagreeing with your almighty plan for the languages of the world to be without reinvention are lacking education is further proof of your own lack of judgement. To be honest its been the working class of every society that has added most to the vocabulary of their language, which is true in modern times. 14-15th century languages were more influenced by the higher classes since they were the ones to write the books and scriptures that lived on to be read today. But from a general-population language view the lowly peasants (yuck spit on'em they be foul!) created and maintained their own language and alot of their pronounciations and words have lived thru til today.
When you start to talk about 'my view and the view of decent people' my biggot alarm goes off bigtime. Do you actually believe that you are decent when youre racking down on people that you somehow believe to be 'beneath' you? I think that most people that are talking what you call ghetto are far more decent than you might ever become.
The only nations i can think off that are actively pursuing a cleansing of its language (and naturally culture also since they go hand in hand) are north korea and china. But even they have started to let some things go. China has for instance decided not to execute all the speakers of thai-kadai that recide within their border, albeit not in han-china of course but within their borders. Perhaps you wouldnt mind a bit of genocide to clear up the ghetto english, which is interesting since the actions that made the word ghetto famous would be the cleansing of another country thats smack-dabble in europe...
bah this topic is just getting me upset, im not telling you to go live somewhere else because i cant stand you, im saying it because you dont seem to stand me and thats the only way youll ever get rid of me except for genocide... good luck
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