Get WAR. Why? Because it will probably have fewer bugs because it isn't promising as much details and capabilities as Darkfall is.
To appease both sides of this party...
Darkfall exists... but it will be far buggier than even AoC. Why? Because its promised things far beyond what current developers have successfully accomplished despite their own team-sizes.
Do you really want to screw around with Darkfall in its haphazard state on release?
i see 0 evidence that even if DF did come out, that somehow magically this small indie company would make a game with all these features and make it work, considering giant companies with millions spent cant do it.Its just illogical to think darkfall will succeed or even come out anyrtime soon.
Giant companies with millions probably could pull it off. The thing is, that none of them want to, because as we know, everyone loves WoW clones, so why try anything different? Look at anything within pop-culture and you'll find that originality is more or less an underground thing. Anyway, I read a post of someone that actually (supposedly) went to the studio in Greece and met with Taos and he said that the game would definitely be out this year, although a European launch prior to a US launch is likely at this point.
"The game was fully functional and they were all playing it plus developing. They have had large battles to test stuff and have testers form other countries. Now I know this number is VERY small and I don't think there will be a big beta opening for users to test. This is where I think there should be. Not because everyone wants to play but I can tell you from the shit AoC just pulled by not having a big test and totally fucking the game when people paid and it wasn't working. Granted they have had this game working for some time there really needs to be some outside testing and big stress testing for large battles and all that jazz.
They did say without a doubt it would be out this year. I just don't think the Americans will have it by then."
If it comes out in europe before USA , us americans can buy a download of it and play on the europe servers. So no madder what we all will be able to play no madder where it is relased first.
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Unless you live off welfare, you shouldn't even have to ask this question. Try the one that comes out first and play it until you dislike it, when the other one comes out then buy it/download the beta and try it and if you like it better then cancel the sub on the first one (if you're still playing i) and buy the other one. Feature lists, previews, videos and dev updates are cool and all, but just like when buying a car a spec sheet and a magazine article will never replace a test drive, they'll never replace playing the games yourself.
I want this game more, but I dont want to spend $50 on WAR in September if this ends up coming out in October or November even (just guessing at release dates). What are other people in this situation doing?
Nice difference asking to buy a carebear themepark game WAR or wait for FFA pvp full loot game with about 100% more depthness and complexity and freedom.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
I want this game more, but I dont want to spend $50 on WAR in September if this ends up coming out in October or November even (just guessing at release dates). What are other people in this situation doing?
Nice difference asking to buy a carebear themepark game WAR or wait for FFA pvp full loot game with about 100% more depthness and complexity and freedom.
You don't sign an exclusivity agreement when you buy a game. There's no significant commitment, he could just buy WAR for some moderate fun until DF releases then switch to that. If he can't afford it then this question is the least of his worries.
I want this game more, but I dont want to spend $50 on WAR in September if this ends up coming out in October or November even (just guessing at release dates). What are other people in this situation doing?
Nice difference asking to buy a carebear themepark game WAR or wait for FFA pvp full loot game with about 100% more depthness and complexity and freedom.
WoW when did you get to play Darkfall?
If you haven't played the game how on earth could you honestly state it has 100% more depth, complexity, and freedom?
Hype much? Have you even played the WAR beta or are you just making all this up as you go along?
Simple answer to the OP, I was asking myself the same question a few years ago when they announced DF was in the making vs another game in the making, just replace the AR of WAR with OW. Glad I didn't wait ? sure am
Giant companies with millions probably could pull it off. The thing is, that none of them want to, because as we know, everyone loves WoW clones, so why try anything different? Look at anything within pop-culture and you'll find that originality is more or less an underground thing. Anyway, I read a post of someone that actually (supposedly) went to the studio in Greece and met with Taos and he said that the game would definitely be out this year, although a European launch prior to a US launch is likely at this point. http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=60922 "The game was fully functional and they were all playing it plus developing. They have had large battles to test stuff and have testers form other countries. Now I know this number is VERY small and I don't think there will be a big beta opening for users to test. This is where I think there should be. Not because everyone wants to play but I can tell you from the shit AoC just pulled by not having a big test and totally fucking the game when people paid and it wasn't working. Granted they have had this game working for some time there really needs to be some outside testing and big stress testing for large battles and all that jazz.
They did say without a doubt it would be out this year. I just don't think the Americans will have it by then."
Originality? Darkfall isn't really even trying to be original. It’s mostly taking every idea ever proposed in an MMO and putting it into one game. What a skill based system? It’s been done a few times. PvP everywhere with consequences? UO did that, it didn't work. A perfectly balanced sandbox where you can do anything and be anything? SWG and UO did that, it didn’t work very well in terms of balance. A good graphics engine supporting tons of players fighting in 1 zone? Wow can barely support a “decent” number of players fighting together and its graphics engine is hardly good.
What else we got? Mounted combat? VG and a couple other games promised this and for some reason or another no game has really been able to implement it well.
Politics, diplomacy, trade agreements, and even player defined legal systems, are all supported by the game? Um, VG tried diplomacy, it works okay. Politics? I don’t see how. Player defined legal system? I don’t know of any game that has tried it but it sure sounds complicated and hard to do to maintain a balance.
500 skills and 500 spells? Show me a game that has accomplished 1000 skills and spells in an MMO. And if somehow you do, show me how the balance is in the game.
So I mean c’mon, I realize indie companies normally produce original ideas but they ALWAYS do it in a small spectrum to start. Like Darwinia and Defcon? I like those games, and I bought them to support indie companies. But they were short, simple, and still took them a long time to make. If you take a small inexperienced staff for an MMO type game, you get Dungeon Runners, not UO+EQ+DaoC+new stuff never seen before.
i see 0 evidence that even if DF did come out, that somehow magically this small indie company would make a game with all these features and make it work, considering giant companies with millions spent cant do it.Its just illogical to think darkfall will succeed or even come out anyrtime soon.
So you say that every big company with milions of dollars in bills each month even thinks about doing a game targeting a vast minor gaming group? The modern MMORPG developening standard is not about doing a great flawless game, it's about doing a game, hype it up with a big PR promotion to cover the development cost and hope for a bonus the upcoming years. It's all about money and it will be it for Aventurine to, but the first game is the baby. They know that the future of this company is at stake here.
War has an offical release date, DF has yet to give any concrete about any form of beta other than internal alpha testing. (and thats stretching it)
Also keep in mind, DF has already broken their hopeful beta testing dates multiple times. over the course of years... delaying it a couple months every now and then sure... 2.... 3.... 4 years or more go by and no sign of beta or anything remotely close, isn't saying anything positive about the game.
All and all... buy WAR, you'll be able to get that $50 back by the time DF releases, assuming it releases.
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Get WAR. Why? Because it will probably have fewer bugs because it isn't promising as much details and capabilities as Darkfall is.
To appease both sides of this party...
Darkfall exists... but it will be far buggier than even AoC. Why? Because its promised things far beyond what current developers have successfully accomplished despite their own team-sizes.
Do you really want to screw around with Darkfall in its haphazard state on release?
I hate to post one-liners, as some here seem to do...but, the bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I'm going to wait until WAR has been out for a month.
Then if there is no news on Darkfall and WAR has a decent reputation I'll buy it.
war is good. it's better than aoc
darkfall is vaporware until proven otherwise
i see 0 evidence that even if DF did come out, that somehow magically this small indie company would make a game with all these features and make it work, considering giant companies with millions spent cant do it.Its just illogical to think darkfall will succeed or even come out anyrtime soon.
Giant companies with millions probably could pull it off. The thing is, that none of them want to, because as we know, everyone loves WoW clones, so why try anything different? Look at anything within pop-culture and you'll find that originality is more or less an underground thing. Anyway, I read a post of someone that actually (supposedly) went to the studio in Greece and met with Taos and he said that the game would definitely be out this year, although a European launch prior to a US launch is likely at this point.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=60922
"The game was fully functional and they were all playing it plus developing. They have had large battles to test stuff and have testers form other countries. Now I know this number is VERY small and I don't think there will be a big beta opening for users to test. This is where I think there should be. Not because everyone wants to play but I can tell you from the shit AoC just pulled by not having a big test and totally fucking the game when people paid and it wasn't working. Granted they have had this game working for some time there really needs to be some outside testing and big stress testing for large battles and all that jazz.
They did say without a doubt it would be out this year. I just don't think the Americans will have it by then."
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If it comes out in europe before USA , us americans can buy a download of it and play on the europe servers. So no madder what we all will be able to play no madder where it is relased first.
"Outside the dream world, life can be harsh--even cruel, but it is life"
Unless you live off welfare, you shouldn't even have to ask this question. Try the one that comes out first and play it until you dislike it, when the other one comes out then buy it/download the beta and try it and if you like it better then cancel the sub on the first one (if you're still playing i) and buy the other one. Feature lists, previews, videos and dev updates are cool and all, but just like when buying a car a spec sheet and a magazine article will never replace a test drive, they'll never replace playing the games yourself.
You should stop asking stupid questions.
Comparing this to WAR is like comparing The Blair Witch Project to The Lord of the Rings.
Nice difference asking to buy a carebear themepark game WAR or wait for FFA pvp full loot game with about 100% more depthness and complexity and freedom.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Nice difference asking to buy a carebear themepark game WAR or wait for FFA pvp full loot game with about 100% more depthness and complexity and freedom.
You don't sign an exclusivity agreement when you buy a game. There's no significant commitment, he could just buy WAR for some moderate fun until DF releases then switch to that. If he can't afford it then this question is the least of his worries.
Nice difference asking to buy a carebear themepark game WAR or wait for FFA pvp full loot game with about 100% more depthness and complexity and freedom.
WoW when did you get to play Darkfall?
If you haven't played the game how on earth could you honestly state it has 100% more depth, complexity, and freedom?
Hype much? Have you even played the WAR beta or are you just making all this up as you go along?
Buy WAR or you will be waiting till the 12th of never
Simple answer to the OP, I was asking myself the same question a few years ago when they announced DF was in the making vs another game in the making, just replace the AR of WAR with OW. Glad I didn't wait ? sure am
So you say that every big company with milions of dollars in bills each month even thinks about doing a game targeting a vast minor gaming group? The modern MMORPG developening standard is not about doing a great flawless game, it's about doing a game, hype it up with a big PR promotion to cover the development cost and hope for a bonus the upcoming years. It's all about money and it will be it for Aventurine to, but the first game is the baby. They know that the future of this company is at stake here.
"one risks a great deal if one loses"
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havent u guys learn anything from AoC? Take the hype x 0.50 = final product.
df devs dont hype /advertise ther game yet
Figure it like this....
War has an offical release date, DF has yet to give any concrete about any form of beta other than internal alpha testing. (and thats stretching it)
Also keep in mind, DF has already broken their hopeful beta testing dates multiple times. over the course of years... delaying it a couple months every now and then sure... 2.... 3.... 4 years or more go by and no sign of beta or anything remotely close, isn't saying anything positive about the game.
All and all... buy WAR, you'll be able to get that $50 back by the time DF releases, assuming it releases.
I would buy WAR at least it exist.
I would wait for Darkfall.
To end this topic (hopefully), I'm buying War. And if Darkfall doesn't come out, at least there should me Mortal Online next year.
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