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Not everyone has been wronged by SOE before. I have had no problems with them personally, and most people I know who have played SOE games have had no problem either. I have pretty much been a loyal costumer of theirs for almost 7-8years now, and I have only recently stopped subbing to EQ2 because of school workload.
I personally don't hold a grudge against SOE. I'm just upset that their games simply aren't fun. I've never seen a game company throw so much money at content and bells and whistles without first making sure the game itself was fun.
Now they're at a point where they're giving away big blocks of playtime for free. When are these people going to learn that you can't give away something people don't want? I could use some entertainment where I live and I wish they'd work on making their games fun instead of finding new ways to repackage them cheaper to lure old subscribers back.
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Hey you know what's not new or original? Trolling.
Hey, he called you out, and now you're mad. This is a troll post plain and simple. Congratulations for getting some attention. Get a cookie from mommy.
I'm pretty sure when I posted it I wrote that the article/mailbag was from 2005 and was just doing so for those like me who had never read it. As someone who subbed to EQ, SWG, and EQ 2, it was a very good read.
It was wrong then just as much as now, you're just digging up 3 year old info to get a rise.
So regardless of what a troll like yourself has to say if any of this is true (which it seems likely is) then the more people that read it, the better.
I knew when I posted it that the following would come out of the woodwork:
See, you even admit it. Nice...
1.) Fanbois in defense of SOE (for WHATEVER reason)
Reacting to a troll, just like you wanted.
2.) Trolls (those who just enjoy trolling and don't need a reason to)
So, people like you...
3.) Those who despise SOE for their unethical business practices
Who jump on the bandwagon for support just like you. It's not like a huge secret on this forum.
4.) Someone who might not realize that things like this go on and might rethink their subs
People who are enjoying the game they're playing regardless of anything you say or dig up from ancient past. If they don't enjoy it any more, they won't play. Simple as that, and nothing you say will make any difference. It's just a cry for attention.
Cya-
"Granted thinking for yourself could be considered a timesink of shorter or longer duration depending on how smart..or how dumb you are."
You should see how out-of-control Everquest is right now:
SOE seems to have a history of bad decisions:
SOE needs new leadership. What I see in EQ tells me that there is complete indifference to the "ordinary" player-base. In fact, it might even be arrogance. I nearly went to the SOE fan fair this year, too.
It gets frustrating when you enjoy a game, Everquest, but people are allowed to hack, cheat, monopolize camps for the purposes of selling gear for real-life money, etc. The only reason why I do not quit is because of my friends and family in real-life. If I spoke with them, they would all quit, including our multipe accounts, which would be like 20 accounts canceling in one day. LOL.
OMFG! Some stranger emailed CBS with a 'tell-all' article about the bad things Sony was planning to do to their games AFTER they've already been done?!? Wow, that anonymous emailer sure has the superhuman ability of predicting the .... past?
Wait a minutes... So do I. I'm getting a vision... I see... Auto Assault being cancelled a year after it's release... I also see... Face of Mankind... halting development....<whew> It's gone.
Posting the conspiracy stuff does nothing. The EQ1 Planes of Power expansion was disproved in the past. When Fires of Heaven (THE game-first raiding guild) was ready for Plane of Earth/Fire/etc. the zones were there waiting.
Can I write CBS about being a 'guide' for WoW? and how we are asked not to go to all the unfinished content like the Ironforge Airstrip because Blizzard will ban us? It's not true, but it would make for great conspiracy fodder...
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Hey you know what's not new or original? Trolling.
Hey, he called you out, and now you're mad. This is a troll post plain and simple. Congratulations for getting some attention. Get a cookie from mommy.
Yup. Only reason I responded in the first place. Three years is a massive time in the game industry. Especially for MMO Markets. I had to stare at the 2005, and ask "why the hell would someone bring this up, unless they had hurt feelings still?". Then I saw the shitastic reply, and realized it was all hurt feelings.
So Thunderous, you can be mad. But only in 2005. Where you get your news from apparently.
This is not a CBS article. CBS writers didn't do any research or fact check for this. This is their damn second mailbag from a series they ran three damn years ago. As in, they opened the floodgates, and a bunch of vets came in to voice their opinion. This is the exact same kind of stuff you can read on the SWG Vet forums. In fact, looking at the crap in this particular link, the stuff on the SWG Vet forums is a lot more reasonable and a lot more grounded in fact.
Yeah, SOE's customer service is shit. Yeah, they didn't listen to SWG players at all for the whole life of the game. Yeah, the NGE was horrible and ruined the game even more than it was already ruined. Everybody knows these things who played SWG or any other SOE title for any significant duration.
But everything written on _that page_ in particular of that mailbag is complete and utter crap. It has already been discredited by the community. Don't bring it back up without context, man. People are just going to believe it all. I don't know who showed you this or why you linked this, but you only did people a disservice. I guess you didn't know better or something. Most of the other pages of that mailbag are OK, but that one needs to be tossed.
Amen. A-men. I think you really hit the nail on the head. SOE like every company has done things that have offended, and disappointed it's fanbase. Only difference is that their mistakes and follys get more exposure, because people need a "bad guy" to whine about.
Threads like this show that they're not above getting lashed out at by anti-fanboys. So it gets hard for those NOT in the know to understand and decipher valid concerns versus brash opinionism.
aggrome.blogspot.com/2006/02/defending-soe.html
here's my major issue. This is not article. It is not even close to an article. It is a "mailbag letter" submitted by a reader. I could have written it.
Anyone could have written it. Brad McQuaid could have written it (joking, joking).
But I know who didn't write it. CBS News, the site where it is hosted.
here's my major issue. This is not article. It is not even close to an article. It is a "mailbag letter" submitted by a reader. I could have written it. Anyone could have written it. Brad McQuaid could have written it (joking, joking).
But I know who didn't write it. CBS News, the site where it is hosted.
EQ2 fan sites
I'm not certian but I think SOE bought EQ but didn't develop it, but as to the main post it was an interesting read for meI had never seen it and besides having went through the buggy game that SWG was in the earliest days I had enough of them jerking me around to have quit before they did the NGE or CU or even before they erased my all time favorite mmo class/profession CH but I have to this day been highly skeptical of a company that has such a long track record of angering their customers.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Hey you know what's not new or original? Trolling.
Hey, he called you out, and now you're mad. This is a troll post plain and simple. Congratulations for getting some attention. Get a cookie from mommy.
Yup. Only reason I responded in the first place. Three years is a massive time in the game industry. Especially for MMO Markets. I had to stare at the 2005, and ask "why the hell would someone bring this up, unless they had hurt feelings still?". Then I saw the shitastic reply, and realized it was all hurt feelings.
So Thunderous, you can be mad. But only in 2005. Where you get your news from apparently.
This is not a CBS article. CBS writers didn't do any research or fact check for this. This is their damn second mailbag from a series they ran three damn years ago. As in, they opened the floodgates, and a bunch of vets came in to voice their opinion. This is the exact same kind of stuff you can read on the SWG Vet forums. In fact, looking at the crap in this particular link, the stuff on the SWG Vet forums is a lot more reasonable and a lot more grounded in fact.
Yeah, SOE's customer service is shit. Yeah, they didn't listen to SWG players at all for the whole life of the game. Yeah, the NGE was horrible and ruined the game even more than it was already ruined. Everybody knows these things who played SWG or any other SOE title for any significant duration.
But everything written on _that page_ in particular of that mailbag is complete and utter crap. It has already been discredited by the community. Don't bring it back up without context, man. People are just going to believe it all. I don't know who showed you this or why you linked this, but you only did people a disservice. I guess you didn't know better or something. Most of the other pages of that mailbag are OK, but that one needs to be tossed.
Amen. A-men. I think you really hit the nail on the head. SOE like every company has done things that have offended, and disappointed it's fanbase. Only difference is that their mistakes and follys get more exposure, because people need a "bad guy" to whine about.
Threads like this show that they're not above getting lashed out at by anti-fanboys. So it gets hard for those NOT in the know to understand and decipher valid concerns versus brash opinionism.
I personally don't think I "need" something to whine about I just think companies such as SOE should get a little Bizzard in them and learn not to piss off their client base so much.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
*Keep it civil people*
Thank you
Hey you know what's not new or original? Trolling.
Hey, he called you out, and now you're mad. This is a troll post plain and simple. Congratulations for getting some attention. Get a cookie from mommy.
Yup. Only reason I responded in the first place. Three years is a massive time in the game industry. Especially for MMO Markets. I had to stare at the 2005, and ask "why the hell would someone bring this up, unless they had hurt feelings still?". Then I saw the shitastic reply, and realized it was all hurt feelings.
So Thunderous, you can be mad. But only in 2005. Where you get your news from apparently.
This is not a CBS article. CBS writers didn't do any research or fact check for this. This is their damn second mailbag from a series they ran three damn years ago. As in, they opened the floodgates, and a bunch of vets came in to voice their opinion. This is the exact same kind of stuff you can read on the SWG Vet forums. In fact, looking at the crap in this particular link, the stuff on the SWG Vet forums is a lot more reasonable and a lot more grounded in fact.
Yeah, SOE's customer service is shit. Yeah, they didn't listen to SWG players at all for the whole life of the game. Yeah, the NGE was horrible and ruined the game even more than it was already ruined. Everybody knows these things who played SWG or any other SOE title for any significant duration.
But everything written on _that page_ in particular of that mailbag is complete and utter crap. It has already been discredited by the community. Don't bring it back up without context, man. People are just going to believe it all. I don't know who showed you this or why you linked this, but you only did people a disservice. I guess you didn't know better or something. Most of the other pages of that mailbag are OK, but that one needs to be tossed.
Amen. A-men. I think you really hit the nail on the head. SOE like every company has done things that have offended, and disappointed it's fanbase. Only difference is that their mistakes and follys get more exposure, because people need a "bad guy" to whine about.
Threads like this show that they're not above getting lashed out at by anti-fanboys. So it gets hard for those NOT in the know to understand and decipher valid concerns versus brash opinionism.
Wow, I have a new forum-fan. Thanks for subscribing.
The last thing I am going to get is mad over what someone calls me or says about me on an internet forum, so don't give yourself or the original troll a bit of credit there kiddo.
Secondly, I stated in my first post on this thread, and I'll make the print REAL BIG SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT...
"THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN IN 2005 AND I POSTED IT BECAUSE I READ IT FOR THE FIRST TIME YESTERDAY AND WASN'T SURE MANY PEOPLE HAD EVER SEEN IT."
Not my exact words but the point was obvious.= for anyone with an IQ above 50 or so.
So keep on flaming away, it makes the thread more interesting. However, and let me repeat this, no amount of trolling, name calling, insulting you do to me, will support your point of view (which is clearly on the side of unethical business dealings) more than anyone elses.
In fact, I'm glad you are my new forum-fan. Please don't ask me to cyber with you. I'm really not into that.
Tecmo Bowl.
I'm not certian but I think SOE bought EQ but didn't develop it, but as to the main post it was an interesting read for meI had never seen it and besides having went through the buggy game that SWG was in the earliest days I had enough of them jerking me around to have quit before they did the NGE or CU or even before they erased my all time favorite mmo class/profession CH but I have to this day been highly skeptical of a company that has such a long track record of angering their customers.
EQ was developed by a subsidiary company spun off by SOE and ran by Smedely. When EQ started making money SOE reabsorbed this subsidiary into SOE and gave Smedley a promotion.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)