Theres only Gold Sellers where theres customers, you cant blame them for problems being caused by the minority. If Mythic can remove goals or objectives that players are given for a "grind" and reason to play the game that require cash to achieve, then they are at least, hindering the gold sellers.
I don't doubt that some gold sellers will be present, however without a player driven crafting economy I don't think they will find it as viable to operate in this game. Since rumor has it that normal playing will provide you all the drops and gold you will need to be effective, it certainly will put a damper on their activities.
Theres only Gold Sellers where theres customers, you cant blame them for problems being caused by the minority. If Mythic can remove goals or objectives that players are given for a "grind" and reason to play the game that require cash to achieve, then they are at least, hindering the gold sellers.
Oh right just like we can't blame drug dealers and child pornographers becuase there are customers. They're low lives regardless. Call it what it is.
if theres a source of income that can be used to buy items (gold,isk, etc.) you can bet there will be gold farmers; tho mythic has allways been tough on cheaters/hackers/gold farmers. regardless if there is the posibility of profit someone will jump on it. Tho i dont think it will really ruin the game, it will be there.
Protip: If someone does NOT list at least one positive and one negative about the game they are critiquing, its best to ignore the post.
Theres only Gold Sellers where theres customers, you cant blame them for problems being caused by the minority. If Mythic can remove goals or objectives that players are given for a "grind" and reason to play the game that require cash to achieve, then they are at least, hindering the gold sellers.
Oh right just like we can't blame drug dealers and child pornographers becuase there are customers. They're low lives regardless. Call it what it is.
You've blown it out of proportions here dude, the two you said are the extreme and of course deserve extreme punishment, i didnt say lets not blame the goldsellers. WoW for example will ban gold sellers and buyers, i was just reminding people it takes two to tango and not just all blame the gold sellers
From the data that's not under NDA i think it will be a waste of time for the goldsellers to farm... and for buyers to buy... gold has almost no use except for maybe a little bit of crafting and training skills... and the devs didnt mention any gold sinks on lvl 40 (except for guilds maybe)... So no need to farm gold or buy it... but let's way for the NDA to drop )
The Gold Farmers can only stay active if people continue to buy Gold/Items. Its really depend on those people just don't care if its wrong or poeple who suck but have money.
All MMO's have grinds. If you don't like to Grind then MMO's are not for you.
I am pretty sure there will be gold farmers/sellers in the game. They're like roaches and will infest anywhere where they can thrive. But the way the game is designed I don't see them having a huge impact in the game's economy. But of course there will be gold buyers but these will be those type of people who are extremely lazy. The game will provide you with almost everything you need thru normal course of gameplay. Don't really need to farm gold in this game.
Leveling will be a worse issue prolly... "get from 1 to 40 in 1 week for only 100$" or some like that... But we the players should work on preventing that... figure out ways how to stop gold sellers and grind sellers and tell it to mythic
well if punkbuster used for warhammer is the same as COD4 it will globally ban the ip address and will also detect the bots that the gold farmers use in third party programs as well hacks players use.
It doesn't matter what game it is, how much economy it has etc. The chinese will jump all over this game and before you know it there will be in-game spammers and websites popping up offering currency and power leveling. There is honestly no way to prevent it, unless war has some plans to block out china.
There will be gold sellers and powerlevelling services and account sellers.
It's a question of how much effort will the Warhammer team apply to prevent, uncover, and ban them, and will individual players and collective groups such as guilds do their part and ostracize and report them.
Would you report a friend who was buying or selling gold, providing or using a powerlevelling service, or buying or selling an account? If not then you are part of the problem.
It doesn't matter what game it is, how much economy it has etc. The chinese will jump all over this game and before you know it there will be in-game spammers and websites popping up offering currency and power leveling. There is honestly no way to prevent it, unless war has some plans to block out china.
The problem is, that it's easy to block the IP range of Asia. So that will stop a lot of them.
But the more intelligent of the bunch will start using public proxy servers stationed in Eastern Europe and North America to gain access to the Game Servers.
It's up to Punk Buster to gain knowledge of as much of these Proxy Servers as possible and block them!
No one uses these kind of Proxy Servers anyway, except Hackers, Crackers, Scammers and Goldfarmers.
Originally posted by nratnam well if punkbuster used for warhammer is the same as COD4 it will globally ban the ip address and will also detect the bots that the gold farmers use in third party programs as well hacks players use.
Should help to catch them quicker.
Banning a IP address is pointless if your are using a dynamic address and/or are spoofing your ip.
Also I don't think gold will be a big issue in this game. The best rewards are gained from RvR'ing. In fact as you level you can RvR and then gain access to nice gear. WAR is not as gear centric as WoW so that helps a lot as well. Don't get me wrong gear counts but not to the point were you'll get WTFPWN in 2 seconds by a single person of equal level and RR.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
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Theres probably not enough of an economy to exploit tbh, farming is virtually pointless in WAR. And gold is only gonna be used for sundry expenses.
Plus mythic will be utterly ruthless vs anyone breaking the ula.
of course they will do what they do. Let's just hope we can work with the game moderators to patrol them, and ban them, and keep doing so.
Theres only Gold Sellers where theres customers, you cant blame them for problems being caused by the minority. If Mythic can remove goals or objectives that players are given for a "grind" and reason to play the game that require cash to achieve, then they are at least, hindering the gold sellers.
I don't doubt that some gold sellers will be present, however without a player driven crafting economy I don't think they will find it as viable to operate in this game. Since rumor has it that normal playing will provide you all the drops and gold you will need to be effective, it certainly will put a damper on their activities.
Oh right just like we can't blame drug dealers and child pornographers becuase there are customers. They're low lives regardless. Call it what it is.
if theres a source of income that can be used to buy items (gold,isk, etc.) you can bet there will be gold farmers; tho mythic has allways been tough on cheaters/hackers/gold farmers. regardless if there is the posibility of profit someone will jump on it. Tho i dont think it will really ruin the game, it will be there.
Protip: If someone does NOT list at least one positive and one negative about the game they are critiquing, its best to ignore the post.
Gold Sellers Suck
Oh right just like we can't blame drug dealers and child pornographers becuase there are customers. They're low lives regardless. Call it what it is.
You've blown it out of proportions here dude, the two you said are the extreme and of course deserve extreme punishment, i didnt say lets not blame the goldsellers. WoW for example will ban gold sellers and buyers, i was just reminding people it takes two to tango and not just all blame the gold sellers
Gold/Accounts is too big a market and too professional these days. Yes they will definately be as present as they can.
If gold is unimportant the focus wiull be on accounts/items. Anything that takes time.
From the data that's not under NDA i think it will be a waste of time for the goldsellers to farm... and for buyers to buy... gold has almost no use except for maybe a little bit of crafting and training skills... and the devs didnt mention any gold sinks on lvl 40 (except for guilds maybe)... So no need to farm gold or buy it... but let's way for the NDA to drop )
The Gold Farmers can only stay active if people continue to buy Gold/Items. Its really depend on those people just don't care if its wrong or poeple who suck but have money.
All MMO's have grinds. If you don't like to Grind then MMO's are not for you.
I am pretty sure there will be gold farmers/sellers in the game. They're like roaches and will infest anywhere where they can thrive. But the way the game is designed I don't see them having a huge impact in the game's economy. But of course there will be gold buyers but these will be those type of people who are extremely lazy. The game will provide you with almost everything you need thru normal course of gameplay. Don't really need to farm gold in this game.
If theres an AH they will try to force prices up, gold farmers dream of high prices as this encourages some people to buy their gold.
a nice simple way to report them and ill help as much as I can, if its like aoc report system Ill need to look for the ignore button.
Leveling will be a worse issue prolly... "get from 1 to 40 in 1 week for only 100$" or some like that... But we the players should work on preventing that... figure out ways how to stop gold sellers and grind sellers and tell it to mythic
well if punkbuster used for warhammer is the same as COD4 it will globally ban the ip address and will also detect the bots that the gold farmers use in third party programs as well hacks players use.
Should help to catch them quicker.
No they won't. This is not an economy based game. This type of game is perfect for the market now with RMT's ruining just about every game out there.
Exactly.
If only SW:TOR could be this epic...
It doesn't matter what game it is, how much economy it has etc. The chinese will jump all over this game and before you know it there will be in-game spammers and websites popping up offering currency and power leveling. There is honestly no way to prevent it, unless war has some plans to block out china.
http://cylongaming.blogspot.com
There will be gold sellers and powerlevelling services and account sellers.
It's a question of how much effort will the Warhammer team apply to prevent, uncover, and ban them, and will individual players and collective groups such as guilds do their part and ostracize and report them.
Would you report a friend who was buying or selling gold, providing or using a powerlevelling service, or buying or selling an account? If not then you are part of the problem.
Gold Sellers will be present. Every game has a feature that people do not like to take part in. the Gold Sellers will be there offering thei services.
Expect private messages and emails from "ASDFXZCV" or "GOLDS43VER" telling you about a power leving website.
The only thing that will prevent gold sellers are IP bans which many games seem to never exercise.
The problem is, that it's easy to block the IP range of Asia. So that will stop a lot of them.
But the more intelligent of the bunch will start using public proxy servers stationed in Eastern Europe and North America to gain access to the Game Servers.
It's up to Punk Buster to gain knowledge of as much of these Proxy Servers as possible and block them!
No one uses these kind of Proxy Servers anyway, except Hackers, Crackers, Scammers and Goldfarmers.
Cheers
HAH "broken engrish gold sellers"
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Wait so warhammer is going to use punkbuster?
http://cylongaming.blogspot.com
Yes
Banning a IP address is pointless if your are using a dynamic address and/or are spoofing your ip.
Also I don't think gold will be a big issue in this game. The best rewards are gained from RvR'ing. In fact as you level you can RvR and then gain access to nice gear. WAR is not as gear centric as WoW so that helps a lot as well. Don't get me wrong gear counts but not to the point were you'll get WTFPWN in 2 seconds by a single person of equal level and RR.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
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GW2 (+LoL and BF3)