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Need Help With Gaming Desktop

Judasgoat98Judasgoat98 Member UncommonPosts: 158

I'm thinking about buying a gaming desktop instead of a laptop. I will have about 2000$ to spend on this, including a monitor. I'm basically only looking for 500 gb hard drive, 4 gb RAM and something more then 2.8 GHz processor. Please give all the suggestions you can, and try to include a monitor, around 20 inches or more. Thank you.

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  • hobo9766hobo9766 Member UncommonPosts: 457

    Well are you buying from newegg or custom builder? Newegg will be much much cheaper. SLI or Crossfire or none? SLI. The new 700s boards blow chunks I wouldn't get any of them. I currently have one its video corruption hell. Intel x38, x48, p45/Ati is much better. Also ati cards still have video overlay on second monitor nvidia stripped this from all their cards.

    Seagate drive with 32mb cache they are as fast as raptors.
    CPU get a E8400 E8500 wolfdale
    Monitor get an LG from best buy I don't think newegg has the 10,000:1 contrast ratio models yet last I looked.

  • Judasgoat98Judasgoat98 Member UncommonPosts: 158

    Well I've been looking around, and I'm having trouble trying to figure out which Video card to go with. I'm kind of debating between a ATI Radeon HD 4870 PCI-E 16X 512MB DDR5 or NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB 16X PCI Express. So which performs better dual? Or should I just spend a little extra cash and upgrade to NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 896MB 16X PCI Express?

  • Varlok91Varlok91 Member Posts: 396
    Originally posted by RaidTheSpade


    Well I've been looking around, and I'm having trouble trying to figure out which Video card to go with. I'm kind of debating between a ATI Radeon HD 4870 PCI-E 16X 512MB DDR5 or NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB 16X PCI Express. So which performs better dual? Or should I just spend a little extra cash and upgrade to NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 896MB 16X PCI Express?

    The GTX 260 is not an upgrade from a 4870 or 9800GX2, it is inferior to both cards.

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  • hobo9766hobo9766 Member UncommonPosts: 457

    The 4870 is the way to go.

  • MaskTheEndMaskTheEnd Member Posts: 11

    i got an old board but it works.

    AMD Opteron 170 socket 939 Dual core

    ASUS A8N32-SLI deluxe mobo, the good thing about the socke 939 opteron is its easily overclockable, and cheap. If you have high quality ram, example: Corsair XMS, and a good flow of air. You can easily overclock that processor to 3000MHz

    my build was a little over $2,000 and that was a couple years ago. Best of luck :)

  • MaskTheEndMaskTheEnd Member Posts: 11

    oh hey I got that case. Did your stock fans die out on you relatively fast?

  • pyrofreakpyrofreak Member UncommonPosts: 1,481
    Originally posted by mbd1968


    System, Monitor... may need a keyboard and mouse too... but I suggest you built your own as that way you get exactly what you want.
    Antec P182: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129025

    GIGABYTE GA-X48-DS4: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128336

    Q9550: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041

    memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227267

    HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148136

    Vid: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102747



    Plus whatever DVD, OS, etc you want
     

    The GA-X48-DS4 is the board I went with, it performs really nicely and has nice and simple overclocking controls. I'd go OCZ Platnium DDR2 1066 Ram though, and a HD4870 as well.

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  • Judasgoat98Judasgoat98 Member UncommonPosts: 158
    Originally posted by Varlok91

    Originally posted by RaidTheSpade


    Well I've been looking around, and I'm having trouble trying to figure out which Video card to go with. I'm kind of debating between a ATI Radeon HD 4870 PCI-E 16X 512MB DDR5 or NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB 16X PCI Express. So which performs better dual? Or should I just spend a little extra cash and upgrade to NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 896MB 16X PCI Express?

    The GTX 260 is not an upgrade from a 4870 or 9800GX2, it is inferior to both cards.

    Well then why does it cost more for it? -_- I'm not the greatest when it comes to video cards.

  • tvalentinetvalentine Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,216

    get an nvidia imo. ATI has bad driver support, so i hear.

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  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by tvalentine


    get an nvidia imo. ATI has bad driver support, so i hear.

    ATI's driver support is just fine.  ATI cards have never been "as good" as Nvidia cards but they are also half the price for a 20% loss in performance at the most.

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  • tvalentinetvalentine Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,216
    Originally posted by Locklain

    Originally posted by tvalentine


    get an nvidia imo. ATI has bad driver support, so i hear.

    ATI's driver support is just fine.  ATI cards have never been "as good" as Nvidia cards but they are also half the price for a 20% loss in performance at the most.

    from what i can see, i can buy a cheaper nvidia card, that also out performs the 4850.

    EDIT: well actually, the 4850 has more stream processors, but even still its core clock is slower then the 9600s

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  • Judasgoat98Judasgoat98 Member UncommonPosts: 158

    So I got more people saying go Nvidia then. They both cost the exact same amount on the site I'm thinking about buying my desktop from, I just needed to know which is better.

    Also while I'm at this, for processors should I go AMD or Intel?

  • hobo9766hobo9766 Member UncommonPosts: 457


    Originally posted by tvalentine
    get an nvidia imo. ATI has bad driver support, so i hear.
    ROFL nvidia drivers are stripped junk with no options and no community support for third party drivers or applications. No overlay either. Google enable old nvidia control panel.. People with old cards resorting to hacking current drivers to get nerfed options back....

    Also keep in mind most nvidia reviews and cards are preoverclocked. AMD sucks now unless you want a budget pc the intel wolfdale is the fastest cpu on the market atm.

  • mx500toridmx500torid Member Posts: 96

    Dang with that budget you can build a kick ass system. Go with a x38 or x48 motherboard, i like Gigabyte, DDR2 1066, E8400 Intel C2D cpu, Get 2 4870s in crossfire, a 500 gb hard drive or 2. 24" monitor. Overclock that 8400 to 4 ghz and have a blast. Oops need a nice cooler for cpu at that speed i use a Swiftech 220 water cooler. Logitech 540 speakers, G5 mouse and G15 keyboard. I love my crossfire system coming from Nvidia.

  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167
    Originally posted by RaidTheSpade


    So I got more people saying go Nvidia then. They both cost the exact same amount on the site I'm thinking about buying my desktop from, I just needed to know which is better.
    Also while I'm at this, for processors should I go AMD or Intel?

    Intel have faster procs

  • Judasgoat98Judasgoat98 Member UncommonPosts: 158
    Originally posted by mx500torid


    Dang with that budget you can build a kick ass system. Go with a x38 or x48 motherboard, i like Gigabyte, DDR2 1066, E8400 Intel C2D cpu, Get 2 4870s in crossfire, a 500 gb hard drive or 2. 24" monitor. Overclock that 8400 to 4 ghz and have a blast. Oops need a nice cooler for cpu at that speed i use a Swiftech 220 water cooler. Logitech 540 speakers, G5 mouse and G15 keyboard. I love my crossfire system coming from Nvidia

    That'd be in my budget if I built my own.

  • Vint4geVint4ge Member Posts: 25

    Imo, go AMD and save yourself some cash. You don't need the best of the best to play what's out on the market right now.

     

    But yeah, with a $2000 budget, you could definitely build a kick-ass system.

  • Judasgoat98Judasgoat98 Member UncommonPosts: 158

    Alright as for processors, would it be better if I got an Intel Quad with say 2.5 GHz or an Intel Duo with 3.0 GHz?

    And be honest with this question, if someone never put together a PC before, would you say they would have trouble or could figure out? And I mean be honest with this question.

  • ArndurArndur Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,202
    Originally posted by mbd1968

    Originally posted by RaidTheSpade


    So I got more people saying go Nvidia then. They both cost the exact same amount on the site I'm thinking about buying my desktop from, I just needed to know which is better.
    Also while I'm at this, for processors should I go AMD or Intel?

    Intel have faster procs



     

    AMD multi task better. Bascily go with the spider setup imo. It gets a performace boost with the right mobo a ati card and a phenom.

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  • Judasgoat98Judasgoat98 Member UncommonPosts: 158
  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167
    Originally posted by RaidTheSpade


    http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Depa=0&Submit=view&Name=My-Shopping-Cart
     
    Thinking about building that, any problems?

    When I look at it it shows my shopping cart... you need to put it in a wish list

    Read theis: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2275343,00.asp

    Plus theres some videos on this site too.

  • Judasgoat98Judasgoat98 Member UncommonPosts: 158
    SYSTEM COLOR Black Bezel Chassis edit
    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™2 E8400 (6MB,3.0 GHz, 1333FSB) edit
    OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Service Pack 1 edit
    MEMORY 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 DIMMs edit
    HARD DRIVE 500GB Performance RAID 0 (2 x 250GB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM HDDs) edit
    OPTICAL DRIVE Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability edit
    MONITORS No Monitor edit
    VIDEO CARD Dual ATI Radeon HD3870 512MB GDDR4 edit
    SOUND CARD Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio edit
    SPEAKERS No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system) edit
    KEYBOARD Dell USB Keyboard edit
    MOUSE Dell Optical USB Mouse

    Alright, I know the first thing everyone is going to say is, "OMG DELLS SUCK MAKE YOUR OWN." Well to be honest I doubt my capabilities to put a computer together without fucking it up, so can someone tell me if this is good? It has all the original specifications I was looking for, and it was only 1519$. I can always upgrade later, as it is not like putting together a whole computer. So, anything wrong with that, other then it's a Dell?

     

  • Varlok91Varlok91 Member Posts: 396
    Originally posted by tvalentine

    Originally posted by Locklain

    Originally posted by tvalentine


    get an nvidia imo. ATI has bad driver support, so i hear.

    ATI's driver support is just fine.  ATI cards have never been "as good" as Nvidia cards but they are also half the price for a 20% loss in performance at the most.

    from what i can see, i can buy a cheaper nvidia card, that also out performs the 4850.

    EDIT: well actually, the 4850 has more stream processors, but even still its core clock is slower then the 9600s

    Core clock means little when comparing different archetectures.

    The 4850 murders the 9600s and even beats the 9800GTX in most cases.

    To the OP, grab a 4870 in my opinion.

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    Desktop - AMD 8450 Tri Core, 3 gigs of DDR2 800 RAM, ATI HD 3200 Graphics, Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
    Laptop (Dell Latitude E6400) - Intel P8400, 2 GIGs of RAM, Intel X4500, Windows XP Professional

  • Judasgoat98Judasgoat98 Member UncommonPosts: 158

    Well that's the the only dual ATI card they offered. I could have spent 100$ more for a Dual Nvidia 9800 GT but I heard the 3870 was better. Of course correct me if I'm wrong.

     

    Would it be a huge mistake to not upgrade to a 4870? Or do you think I'll be fine for a little while?

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