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Spread the truth about the Georgian conflict
ORLYBIRD
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ&feature=related
Fox News: 12 Year Old Girl and Woman Tell the Truth about Georgia
Then get cut short by FoX News.
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how original to bash fox news. you have been taught well.
he gave her 30 seconds after he went to 'break'- no doubt fox was not expecting political rhetoric outta this ladies mouth which probably caught the producers off guard.
is it just me, or does that old lady sound like she was forced to say that stuff? like it was taught to her or, if she didnt russian troops would slaughter the rest of her family in the night. even the little girl was anxious to inject her love for russian troops. this was a stage somehow for these two women it seemed to me.
orlybird, i smell you. sniff sniff.
-I will subtlety invade your psyche-
The truth about what? You have to be nuts to think Russia are angels in all this. Throw away your little immature misconceptions of good vs bad, right vs wrong, this conflict has nothing do with that. This isn't about Russia coming in to save the day from the treacherous Georgians, both sides are equally at fault, none really have a higher moral ground.
*Edit: That video is a joke and it's painfully obvious that its been set up.
O_o o_O
Many journalists reporting on the present situation in Georgia use standard phrases expressing Russian "power" and "might" etc. But if the photographs show the present state of the Russian army, then it is not in a good state at all. For first-class Russian frontline units, there is strange mixture of obsolete and semi-obsolete armoured vehicles, with tanks in particular ranging from truly ancient T-54s to mid-life T-70s smothered in reactive armour. The use of this appliqui armour alone shows somewhat primitive tank thinking as compare to up-to-date Western models. Reactive armour is a cheap and cheerful form interim anti-tank protection pending the arrival of new tank models, and never used on Western tanks. Ceramic Cobham armour is used on Challenger 2 and Abrahams tanks, and the Russians appear not to have developed this. Also, it is surprising for a first-class tank unit to have some of its vehicles show appliqui armour whilst others show no such things. Also there appears to have been no attempt by lackadaisical tank crews to camouflage their vehicles and break up profiles.
The state of the Russian infantry as observed is even more worrying. Their uniforms are not standard, their vehicle discipline looks casual, and the foot deployment of infantry is sloppy, with rifle and kit not properly adjusted, with Kalshnikovs pointing all over the place. Frankly, it is enough to make a British Sergeant-Major go apeshit. Also, the infantry have no body armour (or even steel helmets), and lacking man pack aerials, appear to have no good communications kit at all.
The age range of some of the Russian infantry must also be worrying to Russian trainers and instructors. I have seen men of well over thirty in infantry sections, and any number of over-plump tummies on display. There is also a racial mix which must present problems to any basic training programme as concerns language difficulties. Infantry appear in particular are drawn from every conceivable area in Russia, which must make for training and co-ordination difficulties.
Frankly, on detailed technical observation, this display the Russian army shows it appearing to have sunk to a third-world standard which only succeeded in this case by confronting a numerically inferior force. If the Russians had any alert propaganda sense at all, on this spotlight occasion, they would have fielded a modern elite force instead of the dog's breakfast as observed. On this evidence, goodness only knows what their second line units are like.
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Due to the recent economic crisis and spending cuts the light at the end of the tunnel was turned off. Sincerely, God.
Fixed it for you.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
They missed to mention the Russia are budgeting for an extra $200 billion for equipment upgrades. In addition to the yearly $30-40 billion.
And this is what Russia lets go to the public. It could be less and it could be more.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
do i hear panting on your part?
kind of like a lap dog when his owner has sausage treats in his hands.
why so excited and defensive when it comes to russia.
Oldbush- i was thinking how old them t-72s? looked when driving in georgia. he spit out this terrible burst of diesel smoke.. was nasty.
unlike the pics we have seen of our abhams, for example.
-I will subtlety invade your psyche-
Where?
Did I say.
This is really cool. Russia is amassing their military again.
Omg, Russia would crush everyone else. They are superüberomgbest.
No, nowhere have I said that. I did not even gave a clue what I actually think about Russia.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
either what i said or, i sense disdain for fox news.
sorry, i have a special gift to read between the lines. no harm meant. if your not rooting for russia it must be the disdain i sense.
-I will subtlety invade your psyche-
The Russians are acting like a bunch
Drunk thugs.
Russians Seize Georgia Soldiers, U.S. Humvees
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
No problems. I'm here to discuss thing. Seriously or not. Sometimes I have a lack of expressing myself in a good way. And sometimes... whatever.
Disdain in a way. Thinking of the 2005 swedish defence desciscion.
Not an exact quote but, "Russia will not be possible to have a strengthful army, to be thougth of as a threat, in 20 years."
So I'm not (<- Edit: a small word can make huge difference.) seeing it as a positive thing, but I felt it lacking in the view of the current state of the Russian equipment. (I don't know if it is good or bad equipment.)
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And I also try to have a reason of doubt with what Russia actually have(had) accomplished the last decade in their openess. And to get back slightly to the topic. Russias attack could have motivated afterwards, there could have been something that was not known.
But hearing on the radio today that Georgian Villages is burnt to the ground i South Ossetia. I think I hand in my reason of doubt there for awhile.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
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Fine entertainment i think. Who cares if the news is true or not. I think its funny as hell watching Fox News constantly trip over themselves. I only watch it on youtube though, thats the only place that shows all the good parts.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
If Russia would have pushed Georgians out of South Ossetia, that is one thing. But when they take the opportunity to invade Russia proper and then sit there after a cease-fire is signed... it strains credibility.
I saw that report on Foxnews...I can even tell you when they aired it. It was last week (Wednesday I believe around 12:15).
What the little anti-fox conspiracy theorists do not tell you in that cute little youtube video was the fact that they were coming to a hard break for commercials and the anchorman apologized and told them to hold their thoughts.
After the break, they allowed them to speak their mind (thats the part they dont show you on that little youtube video).
I feel that I needed to say that. Don't rely on those youtube videos. Watch youtube for entertainment....if you watch it for truth and current events you minus well buy some tinfoil and make yourself a pretty little antennae hat.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.