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  • Balthaazar1Balthaazar1 Member Posts: 531

    Thanks! Anyone want to try making comparison images for the models? So far I enjoy the new half elf male models and all the female models look way better and with sexier apparel.

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  • UmbralUmbral Member Posts: 1,051

    What a disappointment !

    They are the same, only a bit more muscular.

    If you compare these models with Warhammer, Age of Conan and Aion models they are just stiff and ugly...

    Well, it seems Vanguard will indeed never improve, only get fixes every 3-4 months...

    I was expecting at least something at the same level of Vanguard´s monters and landscapes.

     

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  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by Umbral


    What a disappointment !
    They are the same, only a bit more muscular.
    If you compare these models with Warhammer, Age of Conan and Aion models they are just stiff and ugly...
    Well, it seems Vanguard will indeed never improve, only get fixes every 3-4 months...
    I was expecting at least something at the same level of Vanguard´s monters and landscapes.
     
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    Character animations were supposed to be coming down the pipeline as well, but who knows how long it will take.

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  • scotczechscotczech Member Posts: 133

    yah very dissapointed, if they had characters that had some kind of emotion about them this game would rock.

    But stiff cardboard toons dont cut it.

     

    RIP VG, I wont be back

  • JaydinBaneJaydinBane Member Posts: 18

    These models are horrible. They're so damn un-proportional. On the smaller characters, the heads are freaking huge compared to the body. And then on larger models like the varanjar the head is tiny and the body is gigantic.

  • SouvecSouvec Member UncommonPosts: 693

    I was excited.... unfortunately that has now ended.

    Personally, I think the game has other more pressing issues to tend to than to mess with character models that were fine in my opinion.  The character animations I feel were more pressing, the need for more 'kinds" or "types" of armor instead of the same skin recolored.  Why not refocus on getting that third neglected sphere "Diplomacy" some more needed attention.

    I dunno if I will be back myself, I just feel they are putting what limited resources they have into areas that just aren't or weren't that important.

  • mike470mike470 General CorrespondentMember Posts: 2,396

    This is why I quit.

    It is obvious that SOE just doesn't care enough about Vanguard to give it the attenmtion it so desperately needs.  Vanguard has so much potential, unfortunately SOE fails to realize that.

    I can easily say that if SoE gave VG the attention it deserves, VG would become a much more popular (and better) game.  But until then, Vanguard will never truly be a great game.

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  • WootsonWootson Member Posts: 64

    What a disappointment...

    I had very high hopes regarding the new models, especially after all the bragging from the developers themselfs. Sorry to say, but almost nothing has changed about the models, except the "inside".

    Almost all look either the same, or just plain silly. Pigheads, weird body shapes, no hairstyle improvements, etc. I thought we would be getting some really good stuff, but instead we are getting the very same, with added developer-bragging-sauce on top.

    [No thanks] [Good bye]

  • BigMangoBigMango Member UncommonPosts: 1,821

    Wow... this looks like shite, sorry I have no better word. These characters almost haven't changed at all. They still look so bad in their pyjamas (or what is this awful clothing supposed to be?)

    Doesn't SOE have the money to hire some professional designers instead of continuing what Sigil did with some random Joe wannabe kitchen table artists?

    Even several f2p mmorpgs look 10x better than Vanguard.

  • DuilyonDuilyon Member Posts: 326

    I am surprised to see all this negativity. I think those models are an improvement compared to the old models. Perhaps I will make a comparision chart showing a before and after.

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194

    Everything looks the same.



    That's another fail for SoE, I think they are getting used to it by now.

    Problem is that their reputation is decreasing day by day, which will make it difficult for them to attract players for their new games.



    I hope the CEO of Sony Pictures realise what a waste of space Smedley is and he will serve him with a P45 ASAP.



    PS: For the previous poster.......don't bother posting anything.

    If there are any visual changes they are really minor and won't change drastically the look of the character.

    This is not what people were looking for.........

  • daylight01daylight01 Member Posts: 2,250

    I have to agree with most of the poster's,I have looked and looked but to me they look the same,I checked every class and I honestly thought for a second that this was a joke thread but it appears that is indeed the "new" models,what a shame.

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  • brihtwulfbrihtwulf Member UncommonPosts: 975

    I agree that these "new" models don't look different at all from what was already there.  I played a goblin as my main character into the mid 50's and they looked EXACTLY the same as they did when I left the game over a year ago.  When I saw the title of this thread, I too had some high hopes and for a moment got excited that they had added some flavor to the race models.  Although, I wasn't unhappy with the goblins and orcs before, just that the other races looked pretty poor in comparison.

    Anyway,.. back to LotRO and EVE...

  • tryklontryklon Member UncommonPosts: 1,370

    Apparently SOE is adopting a "Funcom like" strategy, creating hype for something only to mislead people to return to the game, what a shame, i was really hoping for an improvement here, well then, another game to forget...

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001


    • Dark elf, Dwarf , Gnome and Goblin dont look mush different byt the res have changed. still not what i expected though 

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  • EveeldourEveeldour Member UncommonPosts: 143

    all I got is ./facepalm

    Perhaps its a joke :P

  • bcrankshawbcrankshaw Member Posts: 547

    Such negativity about Vanguard ...shame on you :)

     

    I'm confused ...the models don't  meet everyones expectations.Soooo....do you play a game based on what your character looks  like ?.Doesn't the game play ,questing ,world lore and general immersive factor of a game make a difference ?Doesn't the excitement of flying mounts and dozens of dungeons and ruins to explore matter ?

    Guys I'm an avid  player of Vanguard and I can say  with absolute conviction that the game is brilliant ...but if what matters to you is how your character looks then yes ...its a terrible choice for a MMO game .

    Later :)

     

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  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Originally posted by tryklon


    Apparently SOE is adopting a "Funcom like" strategy, creating hype for something only to mislead people to return to the game, what a shame, i was really hoping for an improvement here, well then, another game to forget...

     

    Nope that was always been SoE strong point, if something Failcom stole the system from SoE

  • sykoticssykotics Member UncommonPosts: 74

     in almost every model...they all just look pissed off. maybe its just me, or maybe the models dont like how they look either. ;P That or the eyebrows are just way to slanted in.

  • daylight01daylight01 Member Posts: 2,250
    Originally posted by bcrankshaw


    Such negativity about Vanguard ...shame on you :)
     
    I'm confused ...the models don't  meet everyones expectations.Soooo....do you play a game based on what your character looks  like ?.Doesn't the game play ,questing ,world lore and general immersive factor of a game make a difference ?Doesn't the excitement of flying mounts and dozens of dungeons and ruins to explore matter ?
    Guys I'm an avid  player of Vanguard and I can say  with absolute conviction that the game is brilliant ...but if what matters to you is how your character looks then yes ...its a terrible choice for a MMO game .
    Later :)
     

    who is judging the gameplay etc?this thread was about the new models and nothing more,They are dissapointing and not what I was expecting,no need to defend the game at all costs here just the models,save the VG rocks posts for another thread.....

     

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  • metalhead980metalhead980 Member Posts: 2,658

    The graphics look fine!

    What the hell happened to you people?

    Since when are graphics all we care about?

    I miss the days MMO players cared about features not if the god damn avatars are plastic looking.

    Vanguard looks like an improved version of EQ2 graphics thats good for an MMO.

    It's impossible with todays technology to make a MMO look like crysis with hundreds of players on screen.

     

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  • MyskMysk Member Posts: 982

    Honestly, I'm as perplexed as others here.  Some of these models look identical to what is already in the game.  Others, as has been mentioned, are hilariously unproportioned.

    It looks like many of these models got into an argument with Beetlejuice and have had their heads shrunk.  On others the body looks like an 80's attempt at an "Action Figure" what with all of their harsh angles and stiff body & limbs.  The female wood elf torso looks like the body of an old bag lady.  The lower (butts / legs) body doesn't appear to have been changed at all.

    This is what all of the work, hype, and wait has been about?  ....  Fixing the animations would have been infinitely more productive and helpful.

    Seriously, this is one of the most comical things that I've seen in a long time.. I agree with the previous poster who said that at first he thought that this was a joke thread.  If it wasn't a link to Ten Ton Hammer then I would swear it is.

  • bcrankshawbcrankshaw Member Posts: 547
    Originally posted by daylight01

    Originally posted by bcrankshaw


    Such negativity about Vanguard ...shame on you :)
     
    I'm confused ...the models don't  meet everyones expectations.Soooo....do you play a game based on what your character looks  like ?.Doesn't the game play ,questing ,world lore and general immersive factor of a game make a difference ?Doesn't the excitement of flying mounts and dozens of dungeons and ruins to explore matter ?
    Guys I'm an avid  player of Vanguard and I can say  with absolute conviction that the game is brilliant ...but if what matters to you is how your character looks then yes ...its a terrible choice for a MMO game .
    Later :)
     

    who is judging the game play etc?this thread was about the new models and nothing more,They are disappointing and not what I was expecting,no need to defend the game at all costs here just the models,save the VG rocks posts for another thread.....

     



     

    I nearly thought you were right and I was defending the game for no reason....after all this is a discussion  about models and aesthetics..but then I went back to the responses and saw comments like ..." no way am I trying this game "...." they like Funcom ...liars "

    So this post is not just about the models but people perceptions of the game  :)

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  • Blighter214Blighter214 Member UncommonPosts: 28

    I swear it was said somewhere that they were only getting a slight boost to look a little more heroic and nothing more. And that's what I see here. Were you guys expecting totally different models? I'm seeing quite a lot of overreacting here.

  • UmbralUmbral Member Posts: 1,051
    Originally posted by metalhead980


    The graphics look fine!
    What the hell happened to you people?
    Since when are graphics all we care about?
    I miss the days MMO players cared about features not if the god damn avatars are plastic looking.
    Vanguard looks like an improved version of EQ2 graphics thats good for an MMO.
    It's impossible with todays technology to make a MMO look like crysis with hundreds of players on screen.
     



     

    Even the devs already said the original characters werent good, werent heroic etc.

    Everyone waited for months to realise that the only real change was the size of muscles.

    EQ2 characters have better anymations, matches the landscapes and have much more life.

    Everyone was expecting more, if you read what the devs said about the changes you would be disappointed to.

    It is all about art style and promisses, not about graphics

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