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ok ive been doing alot of reading and researching and this is what i've come across and have really noticed now.
wow players and ex wow players are saying this "combat is slow paced, blah blah blah, i use one or two abliities in pve blah blah blah"
and then i read ex daoc players saying "its alot like daoc combat but on a more grander scale and alot more epic feeling"
DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE!??!?
what were you people expecting!?
wow 2.0!??!
THIS IS NOT WORLD OF WARCRAFT.
i've been telling everyone since the beginning if your big into WoW your probably NOT going to like WARHAMMER combat. expect daoc with more pvp and world options set in the warhammer universe.
This is NOT twitch based combat with insta-kill abilities. it is slower paced combat with more tactical decisions and abilities.
if you were expecting WOW with massive pvp THEN YOU WERE SADLY MISTAKEN.
please get it in your head already!
This is not WOW. This is WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I played WoW for a few years.....
I think i will enjoy the combat in WaR
Uhh... what?
Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the combat in this game is DAoC 2.0 extream and is not WoW 2.0
if you guys expect to have WoW combat then I would suggest continueing to play WoW.
I am 36 years old and have played a TON of MMORPG's (I'm even an MMORPG developer) and I would have to say that this is the best combat system I have played hands down.
word to the wise: go into the game expecting something 100% different, becuase if you want WoW.. your not going to find it here.
tons of people have been saying "WAR is just like WoW".... well, I say they are people that have not had a chance to play it, becuase they are wrong.
finally someone said it .
this post wasn't directed at all wow players.
but the ones that come into WAR expecting WoW 2.0 and find out it's not and complain that it is "slow".
No, its basically the bastard child of warcraft and DAOC. No two ways about it. Not necessary a bad thing.
And from all Accounts, its is slow.
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What people really want to know is if it's fun.
I have a friend that plays WoW none stop and was in beta in WaR with me... his complaint is that he wants to be able to 1 or 2 shot people like he can in WoW... he is looking for the easy I WIN BUTTON.
well guess what.. there is no I WIN BUTTON in War.. the game for the most part is very ballance in comabt and the fights last long enough for you to think and use some skill.
it's not "WTF, I JUST GOT PWNT... wher ethe hell did that come from."
it's more like
"holy crap I'm under attack, ok.. what should I do.. ok I'll do this.. " then it is one of the next two
"cool that worked" or "damn it, next time I'll try something else."
you have time to think in combat, which is great
The kiddies looking for watered down fast as lightening combat just need to keep playing WoW.
HELL YES!!
most of the claims of combat being slow on MMORPG came from 1 person.... and now that the NDA is dropped we can honestly say, its not slow, not at all. fights last longer because warriors aren't critting you for 3k+ while the mage hits you for 5k. but even at low levels you are running around spamming skills, never ever standing still.
so really combat isn't slow. its just less... ganky if I had to describe it.
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exactly where im coming from.
I 100% agree, it takes some skill and your not just getting 1 shoted all the time.
Hell I don't care if people say that it's worse then wow and that it plays like crap... If they say it sucks, then they won't play it, so that means less stupid fucks in WAR
No it's not like WoW.
It's DAOC2 with the Warhammer IP.
And that's a good thing.
The RvR is the most fun i've had in an MMO.
Been in beta since BOOM invite.
Combat is different. The main thing you need to get use to is the universal cool down. It was odd at first (less than an hour) but once you get the timing down, it is fun. It just prevents people from spamming. Makes which skills to use a little more tactical.
cool
Its amazing how many people want this in a mmo. Just so you know people, wow isn't a pvp friendly game. Its more a look-I-play-more-then-you-so-I-own-you-cause-of-my-gear-and-not because-of-my-skills kinda game.
I hated being one shot and to be honest when i was able to 1 shot people it was FUCKING BORING. Felt more like a zombie game then a strategic game. Like I said before in other post. MMO is not the same as being superman killing 10 people on your own. Go play fps games or whatever you used to play.
Perhaps what people are saying is that the damage on skills just doesn't seem to be enough.
For example: In WoW, playing as a rogue, you get jumped by a warrior, mage, and hunter. Well, unless you vanish and escape, you're going to die. Let's say you decide to try and take 1 of them with you at least. You actually have a chance at that. You can probably kill that mage before the 3 of them take you out.
In WAR, that's not going to happen. You get attacked like that, and it's
<click ability1 for instant DD attack>
autoswing while waiting for GCD of 1.5 - 2 seconds
<click ability2 which is a dot that might take down 1 guys hp 5% when it goes it's term of 30 seconds -- OR just clicky ability1 again since it's a DD and has refreshed>
In the above case, you're not going to go for the dot unless you're stupid. You don't have time to wait for the piddly damage it does. You're trying to kill ONE guy while the 3 kill you. You attacks just don't do enough damage to do that. With TONS of hp, the skills just don't seem to scale up well enough to make much of a dent, unless in a group, or have alot of time to wail on them.
Again though, I still love the game and will be playing. I just thought I'd share another opinion.
Well....I played DAOC for 2 years (Merlin/Albion). I had a 50 Necromancer, 50 Scout, 50 Infiltrator...so I know how the combat feels in that game. I also played WoW for 2 years and had a 60 Pally, 70 Warlock, 60 Warrior, 60 Rogue...so I also know how that feels. I also played AoC and had a 56 Ranger and a 55 Barbarian...so I also know how the combat in that game feels.
WAR combat felt like none of those games to me. I really wish I could properly describe the way the combat felt to me...but I just can't. The closest thing I can come up with is just that....slow and clunky.
I said this in another thread...Mythic has stated that they were aiming for a slower style of combat. I think since they purposefully did this, they screwed up the combat mechanics.
Not trying to come across as negative or flame the game at all. I am trying to express my honest opinion. Maybe once everyone else gets to try out the game, you guys will think its the greatest thing since sliced bread.
What do you mean by slow and clunky ?? The fighting animations is slow? or do you mean that you don't do enough damage ?? Cause I seriously don't know what you all mean by slow and cluncky.
For what I have read, it's DaOC + WOW + TF2. And I don't mean this as a bad thing.
first, your rogue stands no chance in that 3v1. the mage will frost nova and blink away, and you'll die within 5 seconds. evasion will cause the warrior to spam overpower, nothing you can do to stop the hunter, and the mage will just spam ice lance. all 3 classes will spam snares ect. you'll die in seconds and barely be able to do any damage.
your example for WAR is... flawed. you give 2 choices for skills. and then remark that the other side has too many HP for you to do anything... but what about your HP? in a 3v1 you aren't going to do too well, but thats true in everything. but in WAR you won't die instantly, you'll actually get to fight, even if its a losing fight.
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