What is the first class that is going to be nerfed and buffed up more

Night-Virus

NERFED bright wizard

BUFFED witch hunter

BinaryDigit

Does the bright wizard have the whole "blow your own head off" risk when casting his spells?  Or is that a sorc only?

PureChaos

Originally posted by BinaryDigit


Does the bright wizard have the whole "blow your own head off" risk when casting his spells?  Or is that a sorc only?

 

yes, called combustion

I think its going to be a rune priest or ironbreaker, damn things are impossible to kill.

markyturnip

Originally posted by PureChaos

Originally posted by BinaryDigit


Does the bright wizard have the whole "blow your own head off" risk when casting his spells?  Or is that a sorc only?

 

yes, called combustion

I think its going to be a rune priest or ironbreaker, damn things are impossible to kill.

 

..except, Order is so outnumbered that Mythic may decide to keep Order classes more powerful, to cope with the zerg.

Night-Virus

hes not kiddin u will die if u use too much magic but still having 1000 hp as a lv 11 i know low hp and a bright wizard hittin 100s or 150s as crits and there lv 1 is just too OP

Night-Virus

but im new to mmorpg.com what does this OP near my name stand for

fansede

I played Order and thought Disciples of Khaine never died..

Narshe

Ah.. I blew myself up a few times as a Bright Wizard a few times already. it's embarassing but fun.

It's hard to guess because I've only experienced the first tier RVR, but based on that I would have to say the Bright Wizard for nerf, and the Magus and Witch Hunter for buff.

BinaryDigit

Originally posted by Night-Virus


but im new to mmorpg.com what does this OP near my name stand for

 

OP = Original Poster aka the person who started the thread.

Night-Virus

Originally posted by BinaryDigit

Originally posted by Night-Virus


but im new to mmorpg.com what does this OP near my name stand for

 

OP = Original Poster aka the person who started the thread.

 

thanks

Noggin

Originally posted by Night-Virus


but im new to mmorpg.com what does this OP near my name stand for

 

Opening Poster (i.e. You started this thread)

 

Welcome aboard boss.

PureChaos

Originally posted by markyturnip

Originally posted by PureChaos

Originally posted by BinaryDigit


Does the bright wizard have the whole "blow your own head off" risk when casting his spells?  Or is that a sorc only?

 

yes, called combustion

I think its going to be a rune priest or ironbreaker, damn things are impossible to kill.

 

..except, Order is so outnumbered that Mythic may decide to keep Order classes more powerful, to cope with the zerg.

well my server was the other way so my opinion might differ.

fozza6

for my part and i did a lot of rvr i think the game is exceptionally well balanced and yes i played on both sides....I found that as a swordmaster with a healer i could smash peeps over and over.. AS a magus same i could take people down fairly efficiently. But i think people are focusing to much on 1 v 1 things do not and should not be balanced via that it should be rvr balancing and as far as my experience takes me the realms are very well balanced

joejccva71

I don't know. I tried the Bright Wizard and only got to level 11, but they aren't THAT good honestly. They are by NO means a class that can 2-3 shot someone (yes even against other clothies). I've tested it many times and while clothies go down faster, it still takes quite a number of nukes to bring down someone.

Same goes with Shadow Warrior. Granted the range is nice and you do get killshots, but it's only because everyone else is pounding that one person who decides to be in the front.

Personally the classes that I thought were pretty good were Chosen, Marauder, and Witch Hunter. I only tried Chosen and while they seemed decent, they are by no means dps'ers. They are just tough to bring down unless 4+ are hitting you.

RVR in WAR is fun, but it seems like a zergfest to me. No real strategy at all. It's just attack whoever is closest and throw enough crap on him to kill, then move to the next fool who is closest.

I will buy WAR because there is nothing else to play, but lets face it...WAR is decent, but it's not a GREAT game guys.

Noggin

I'm sure there are some tweaks that need to be made here and there...

 

I think the Squig Herder (I love it when people call this a Squid Herder) needs some loving...

 

Some other classes could use some minor buffs, but I can't really think of a class I'd call nerf on.

Night-Virus

rune priest needs to be more squishy

RUNE PRIEST A HEALER WITH MAIL

in case u didnt know that this is a bad thing

Antarious

Originally posted by joejccva


I don't know. I tried the Bright Wizard and only got to level 11, but they aren't THAT good honestly. They are by NO means a class that can 2-3 shot someone (yes even against other clothies).

 

That's kind of funny honestly...

I remember this one time quite a while back logging onto the CB forums.. to see "Stop appealing player XXX and YYY they are not exploiting".

It was two bright wizards.

When they made the elder forums (before they basicly made everyone that was in beta an elder)..

They still listed one of the two players names and said we could tell them (edit: edited to clarify by "them" they were talking about the new wave of testers) what it wouuld be like to be killed by that player.

Not that *I* have any idea about bright wizards and I was mostly playing WP but... just saying..

I do remember them mentioning this one guy many times in CB...

Tsukano

after playing preview weekend i saw some major flaws in mechanics of the archtypes (in general). I played every archtype on order side only and this is my general feeling as of build 3.3.

 

Tanks are very overpowered. In some cases i was able to kill multiple people (without a healer even close) and still be standing fine. If i had a healer on me... forget it, it was game over for the other side (unless they also had tank/healer). While there dmg isn't overpowered, there ability to survive a huge amount of punishment. A slight armor and resistance reduction would probably fix this issue. I do believe tanks should beable to absorb dmg.... but in WAR its almost retarded how much they can take.

 

Healers insta-cast heal is quite OP. 1 man should not beable to survive an onslaught from a full group and live another day (or even 5 min for that matter). while in group vs group combat it wasn't as apperent (b/c multiple people getting attacked, target switching, etc.) it was still visible that healers made too much of an impact in the battle. Im not against healing, but they either need a lil bit longer casting bars, a seperate Mana system (b/c AP heals extremely fast that you almost never run out if you manage it well) or weaken the heals.

 

Melee DPS doesn't quite do its job. My opinion on melee DPS is that it is saposed to get into a battle, take someone down and get out. They have weaker armor then tanks, thus they need to be compinsated with the ability to drop their target quickly. I noticed a huge flaw in this while playing the witch hunter in teir 2. The main purpose of a stealth class is to quickly eliminate 1 target (usually light armor or robe type) to give their side an advantage (such as taking out a healer that is keeping their group alive or a mage that is dealing out alot of dmg.) Unfortunately this isnt the case in WAR. Even when getting the jump on a mage in the middle of a group, its impossible to get them under 1/4 life before his group destroys you. I think melee DPS needs to be re-evaluated and hopefully given a dmg boost so they can do their job; otherwise u might as well roll a tank.

 

Ranged DPS, while not as weak as Melee DPS, still feels a lil on the weak side. When my bright wizard is only nuking for 300 dmg on a player lower level then him, and said target has 2-3k HP..... u see where i feel they are underpowered. Ranged DPS almost has to solely rely on their AOE dmg (so the healers have a harder job) or moral abilities which where hitting for a decient 600-700 dmg. Since casting time isnt retarded fast like it was in DAoC, i think this should also be evaluated by mythic and given a slight increase so that range DPS (especially mages) can do their job correctly.

Night-Virus

Originally posted by joejccva


I don't know. I tried the Bright Wizard and only got to level 11, but they aren't THAT good honestly. They are by NO means a class that can 2-3 shot someone (yes even against other clothies). I've tested it many times and while clothies go down faster, it still takes quite a number of nukes to bring down someone.

let me tell u a story ok im a pure squig herder and i was fighting a rune priest and a bright wizard i was lv 5 and the bright was lv 10 and the rune priest was lv 4 ... so im attacking the priest and all of a sudden i turn to see if my squig was doin fine and there was a bright and my squig dead, and i only turned around for about 4 seconds i dont think thats op i think its too op

Tsukano

Originally posted by Night-Virus

Originally posted by joejccva


I don't know. I tried the Bright Wizard and only got to level 11, but they aren't THAT good honestly. They are by NO means a class that can 2-3 shot someone (yes even against other clothies). I've tested it many times and while clothies go down faster, it still takes quite a number of nukes to bring down someone.

let me tell u a story ok im a pure squig herder and i was fighting a rune priest and a bright wizard i was lv 5 and the bright was lv 10 and the rune priest was lv 4 ... so im attacking the priest and all of a sudden i turn to see if my squig was doin fine and there was a bright and my squig dead, and i only turned around for about 4 seconds i dont think thats op i think its too op

 

your problem is that he was lvl 10 :P Teir 1 has this funny inequality of ability between lvl 9 and 10 in that at 10 you can head to teir 2 and get RR gear. I tried it with about 4 classes in the preview weekend (2 of which were my friends cuz there is no way i coulda lvled that many to 10 @_@) and every case turned out the same, you become OP. the classes tried were: Witch Hunter, Bright Wizard, Rune Priest, and Swordmaster. As the Witch Hunter and Swordmaster i played the dwarven/greenskin t1 scenerio and went straight for weapons cashe (the point closest to destro spawn) and took it by myself. Some times i had a full group on me and came out on top. It kinda sux, but thats just a screw up by mythic allowing that gear in T1.

Night-Virus

ohh he wasnt in T1 gear i know that i now have had about 1 13 and thats only because i didnt play that much and i know what a bright wizards T1 gear looks like *tear* trust me

PROdotes

just look at the poll from war alliance... only 2-3% of the population will play either the magus, white lion or witch elf...

white lion prolly due to the pathing issue we had in 3.3 so that means the magus and witch elf need a serious "buff" so people will actually play them...

also almost 8% of the players will play a shaman... meaning he needs a nerf of some kind...

the others are more or less on the 4-6% mark meaning they are doing fairly well in terms of balance and fun...

that's just IMHO tho )

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buegur

So far I can't see an overpowered class compared to the others and this post seems to confirm that.  Someone posted the other day that the Witch Hunter was heads and shoulders above every other class and everyone would be playing him, go figure!  Some are saying the witch is under powered but she sure tore up my elf healer with no problem, I'm of the opinion most classes are just fine of course you may power whichever class i'm playing up a bit!

Noggin

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But anyways maybe a few classes such as the engineer need  buff but the BW does not need a nerf. They go down in seconds once a melee is on them. There pop will drop big time once people know just how much attention you need to give to RvR. If any melee clas gets on you its over. Same for sorc. Im still torn betwen a BW and a engi really depends on what happens with OB.