---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
This post makes me LOL. I been in BETA since day one and if you complain about this game because it was released to early you sure as hell will do the same about WAR.
Don't count on it.
There's already been a mostly positive response to the preview weekend - despite its bugs, pathing issues, etc. Having had a chance to actually play it, many are now looking forward to buying it when it comes out.
WAR is, even with 3 or so weeks of beta to go, already heads and shoulders above AoC in its current state, in retail, with months of patching behind it.
Will there be *some* who complain? Sure. There always are.
But I don't expect you're going to see *nearly* the fallout AoC has had.
It dosent change the fact the game is beeing released to early and end game feels like doing a BG over and over again, its just to small. The biggest issue I have is that the combat is to slow and even worse the loading zones in middle of RvR areas. But I do hope it gets better could be fun with some old good RvR again
MrBlood....the problem here is that your stance on Funcom (the premise that they are, as of NOW, being more honest) is not an accurate review of their actions as a whole.
In short, just because a man admits he robbed one bank does not, by proxy, excuse him for the 8 others he lied about. Funcom has historically shrouded themselves in both secrecy and spin to cover the dirt they left piling up. They did it to buy time, they did it for many other reasons which are all very understandable. However, understanding a thing does not also mean I have to either accept it, or support it.
On the flip side of this, Mythic has been open and honest LONG before ever seeing a dime from us. They are telling us about the problems AND.....they are taking immediate action to correct it before launch. I have no care at all for what problems a game may have....so long as they are honest with me about it, and do their absolute BEST to ensure its fixed before charging me to beta their game for 6 months.
This post makes me LOL. I been in BETA since day one and if you complain about this game because it was released to early you sure as hell will do the same about WAR.
Ive been in WAR beta as well and I think exactly the opposite as you. Ive been impressed so far with how Mythic has been handling things.
I actualy like how they handle things in Mithic they lissen! But I am talking about all the doomsayers that are sooo waiting for the game and they will go and buy it and most of them will do exactly the same as they are doing here crying them self to sleep in forums for years to come until next game is released
I am just fed up with these posts and those people and even more amazed they will be doing it all over again in War lol
before you rant about what WAR lacked you might wanna take a look at what Mark had so say about the PW: See, they know there are problems.....
Which is awesome because they own up to issues versus hiding behind a wall of corporation
If you pay attention to the latest interviews for funcom, they are doing the same thing. The problem here, is players want things done "NOW NOW NOW".
You are also comparing a game that is using nothing new in any shape or form, and is based on its predecessors (Evolution). With one that is pushing the mold, and isn’t scared to try new things (Revolution). More of the same, or something new and innovative? One is going to be harder to develop, and maintain, than the other.
WAR has games just like it to be based on, AOC has many things brand new for the genre.
Does it have a huge open world to explore?
Just some connected Instances.
Does it have Public Quests?
NEIN!
Does it have Public Parties?
Nope, even normal parties are a pain to create!
Does it have meaningfull PvP?
Nope, just mindless killing!
Does it have massive RvR fights that are meaningfull?
It chokes if more than 30 people area in the same area!
Does it have siege battle where you can actually take over a keep?
It should have but it is still broken after 3 months!
Does it have a living and growing guild system?
Static, guild is just a chat channel!
Does it have living and growing cities?
Static, cities are always the same!
Does it have PvE Rank, Influence Rank, PvP Rank and RvR Rank?
It does have PvE ranks, how cute!
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Please enlighten me what revolutionary new things AoC had.
"Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"
There are tons of things wrong with AoC, but melee combat is not one of them. In fact, if all MMOs had AoC's melee combat system, this genre would be better off. Most of the players that bash the melee combat in AoC are just bad MMO players who are used to auto-attacking and slow-paced combat from previous MMOs. Or, they're just haters who will flame anything and everything about AoC.
First if other MMO's had Conans combat system I wouldnt play them because its slowwwww. I couldnt stand waiting for the key sequence to get finished from on swing. Compared to Lineage 2 Aoc's combat will put you to sleep from sheer boredom. And cant we turn off the stupid slow motion fatality crap? gets annoying after about level 15.
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I did..its called a twist and a play on words.
A play on words? Not even the slightest.
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"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Don't count on it.
There's already been a mostly positive response to the preview weekend - despite its bugs, pathing issues, etc. Having had a chance to actually play it, many are now looking forward to buying it when it comes out.
WAR is, even with 3 or so weeks of beta to go, already heads and shoulders above AoC in its current state, in retail, with months of patching behind it.
Will there be *some* who complain? Sure. There always are.
But I don't expect you're going to see *nearly* the fallout AoC has had.
It dosent change the fact the game is beeing released to early and end game feels like doing a BG over and over again, its just to small. The biggest issue I have is that the combat is to slow and even worse the loading zones in middle of RvR areas. But I do hope it gets better could be fun with some old good RvR again
I did..its called a twist and a play on words.
A play on words? Not even the slightest.
MrBlood....the problem here is that your stance on Funcom (the premise that they are, as of NOW, being more honest) is not an accurate review of their actions as a whole.
In short, just because a man admits he robbed one bank does not, by proxy, excuse him for the 8 others he lied about. Funcom has historically shrouded themselves in both secrecy and spin to cover the dirt they left piling up. They did it to buy time, they did it for many other reasons which are all very understandable. However, understanding a thing does not also mean I have to either accept it, or support it.
On the flip side of this, Mythic has been open and honest LONG before ever seeing a dime from us. They are telling us about the problems AND.....they are taking immediate action to correct it before launch. I have no care at all for what problems a game may have....so long as they are honest with me about it, and do their absolute BEST to ensure its fixed before charging me to beta their game for 6 months.
Ive been in WAR beta as well and I think exactly the opposite as you. Ive been impressed so far with how Mythic has been handling things.
I actualy like how they handle things in Mithic they lissen! But I am talking about all the doomsayers that are sooo waiting for the game and they will go and buy it and most of them will do exactly the same as they are doing here crying them self to sleep in forums for years to come until next game is released
I am just fed up with these posts and those people and even more amazed they will be doing it all over again in War lol
exactly
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Which is awesome because they own up to issues versus hiding behind a wall of corporation
If you pay attention to the latest interviews for funcom, they are doing the same thing. The problem here, is players want things done "NOW NOW NOW".
You are also comparing a game that is using nothing new in any shape or form, and is based on its predecessors (Evolution). With one that is pushing the mold, and isn’t scared to try new things (Revolution). More of the same, or something new and innovative? One is going to be harder to develop, and maintain, than the other.
WAR has games just like it to be based on, AOC has many things brand new for the genre.
Does it have a huge open world to explore?
Just some connected Instances.
Does it have Public Quests?
NEIN!
Does it have Public Parties?
Nope, even normal parties are a pain to create!
Does it have meaningfull PvP?
Nope, just mindless killing!
Does it have massive RvR fights that are meaningfull?
It chokes if more than 30 people area in the same area!
Does it have siege battle where you can actually take over a keep?
It should have but it is still broken after 3 months!
Does it have a living and growing guild system?
Static, guild is just a chat channel!
Does it have living and growing cities?
Static, cities are always the same!
Does it have PvE Rank, Influence Rank, PvP Rank and RvR Rank?
It does have PvE ranks, how cute!
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Please enlighten me what revolutionary new things AoC had.
First if other MMO's had Conans combat system I wouldnt play them because its slowwwww. I couldnt stand waiting for the key sequence to get finished from on swing. Compared to Lineage 2 Aoc's combat will put you to sleep from sheer boredom. And cant we turn off the stupid slow motion fatality crap? gets annoying after about level 15.