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please people, take into consideration that this is beta! i can tell a lot of you have never expericed beta testing, particualarly mmo beta testing. the reason why is I see so many post bashing things like, textures, animations, pathing, speed, character customization, difficulty of mobs and so on, as if it's the final build. all these lame "preview weekend reviews" talking about how awful this is and that is. a lot of these issues will be fixed at launch, so save yourself the embarassment and not post these things until the final build is out. btw way for those who don't know the topic is a spoof from a famous Madonna song, thats what you naysayers remind me of, lol.
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Best topic in mmorpg history I think.
I second this
Releasing a game is alot like running for president. No matter who you are... you're gonna be on the pointy end of more than your fair share of criticism. I don't care if the game drips of divinity.... someone is going to bash it.
That said... even if the game is a putrid, rotting corpse it will attract at least one fanboi. I'm not going to judge any games, but I will appeal to the polar sides of the community; you can dig up posts much akin to this one about the AoC beta...
There are two edges to that argument. I don't think WAR is either of them. It's probably (I havn't played it) some good DAoC style fun with good old DAoC style mechanics... broken ones. I will buy this game simply because Mythic made it... I'll put down my final thoughts a month after release.
The ultimate solution to every problem: more space marines.
You have 100% credibility because of your sig.
i hate to mention AOC since it turned out bad, but you should of seen the login screen for the Conan beta, it was awful. when the final came out the login screen looked awesome! not to mention the numerous changes they had made in the last few weeks before release.
Well a lot of the "naysayers" are actually saying the game is more boring then it is broken.
Don't get me wrong, I am a big fan of warhammer (although it didn't fully reach my expectations) and will be playing it in at launch. But the main problem I see people having with warhammer is that the fun factor isn't there.
Lets be honest:
Crafting is....ages behind many games.
PvE is....PQs, and raiding has yet to be seen, but we have been told not to expect the level of everquest 2 or WoW's PvE.
PvP is....the shining point of the game. They do this well with scenarios, keeps, so on and so forth.
To finalize my point, the game is great for people that enjoy pvp, but it is lacking in both pve and crafting which happens to be two things that mmorpg players love to do.
Hopefully Mythic has great things in store for both of these things.
You have 100% credibility because of your sig.
For the emperor!
The ultimate solution to every problem: more space marines.
you sound confused, i don't think you know what you like. how can you be a "big fan" and in the same sentence say "didnt reach my full expectations". do you know what an oxymoron is, well you should know now? and how is PVE any different from WOW? go here kill 10 of these? whats the difference? at least my first hour of war i was buning buildings, instead of kill 5 of these, now kill 10 of thes, go deeper into the cave and kill 5 of these. how the hell is WOW pve better? crafting....whatever, i crafted in a lot of games, it simple in pretty much every game you play. whats the big deal? is it because WAR wasn't revolutionary enough were you could actually pull the crafted items out of your monitor and use them in real life. your expectations are way too high buddy.
you sound confused, i don't think you know what you like. how can you be a "big fan" and in the same sentence say "didnt reach my full expectations". do you know what an oxymoron is, well you should know now? and how is PVE any different from WOW? go here kill 10 of these? whats the difference? at least my first hour of war i was buning buildings, instead of kill 5 of these, now kill 10 of thes, go deeper into the cave and kill 5 of these. how the hell is WOW pve better? crafting....whatever, i crafted in a lot of games, it simple in pretty much every game you play. whats the big deal? is it because WAR wasn't revolutionary enough were you could actually pull the items you crafted out of your monitor and use them in real life. your expectations are way too high buddy.
no... he isn't confused at all. He is a big fan of Warhammer.. you know, the whole thing. But Warhammer: Age of Reckoning didn't live up to his expectations... that means he expected more than what was actually delivered.
this is common, most of us expect too much because we are promised too much, its just how the whole thing works. you seem to be attacking a fan of the game and IP because they said a few things weren't great, that right there is the mark of a fanboi.
he never expected to "pull items out of his monitor", you're simply attacking his very... mild opinions with crazy flames of how godly WAR is.
I have a CE on preorder, I will be getting it the day it comes out, I will be playing WAR a lot for at least 2-3 months, and then seen how it is doing, I'm a FAN OF WAR. but even I can see you are a total fanboi, try to be a bit more understanding that WAR isn't perfect, or even the "best" MMO out there. A game can be good without being better than WoW in every way, you just need to accept that.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
Wow i would find this hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. I am constently harping on fan boies for falling back on the "it's only beta" to defend games. Now fortunatly with WAR there havn't been to many that have been clueless enough to be using this obvious strawman, as has been mentioned in large part due that most people that have a problem with the game thus far have stated it's boring not broken. However, if you think this late in an open beta that things such as animations and custimonations are going to be changing anywhere in the near future it is you that doesn't understand what an open beta is or how/why/when developers make changes.
I give you that the pathing will probably end up being fixed and the textures tweeked, but the textures are part of the animation style and can only be changed so much. And while the mobs can be made harder, again the reason they are easy is because the game isn't PVE focused and it's a game design to some extent to allow players to quickly get to max level and participate in relm vs relm. So let's stop with this it's "only beta" crap in an open beta thats just before release.
I've seen my fair share of people using the fact that somethings in beta to explain away problems, and even done it myself. I've also seen plenty of the same problems in those games after beta..
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
yeah but the final isnt out yet nostradamus, so relax.
like a virgin, heeeee. what ever noob. obviously you have age of conan syndrome. cry like a baby because funcom let you down. now you dont trust any devs to fix problems by release. like i said:
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
your the pathetic one for trolling these forums. if the game is so damn boring why the hell are you here?
yeah but the final isnt out yet nostradamus, so relax.
Yeah, which means you don't know either. You're the only one assuming things here, I'm just putting a little pit of the real world in your fanboy optimism.
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
fun is subjective, there are plenty of other games that are more fun than WAR, its all based on the person. Some people find peggle more fun than WAR.
and really, you say all other MMOs have going for them are kill this kill that. thats what WAR is all about! bashing in heads, killing things. when you count "clickin on trees" as one reason why WAR is more fun than EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE, you are reaching, a lot.
WAR is not perfect, WAR is not the best game out there. Its ok if you find it fun, but that doesn't make it fun for everyone else, once you accept that this game doesn't have to be better than WoW or AoC or other games to be fun you'll be better off.
till then, you're the troll here, not everyone else.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
you sound confused, i don't think you know what you like. how can you be a "big fan" and in the same sentence say "didnt reach my full expectations". do you know what an oxymoron is, well you should know now? and how is PVE any different from WOW? go here kill 10 of these? whats the difference? at least my first hour of war i was buning buildings, instead of kill 5 of these, now kill 10 of thes, go deeper into the cave and kill 5 of these. how the hell is WOW pve better? crafting....whatever, i crafted in a lot of games, it simple in pretty much every game you play. whats the big deal? is it because WAR wasn't revolutionary enough were you could actually pull the items you crafted out of your monitor and use them in real life. your expectations are way too high buddy.
no... he isn't confused at all. He is a big fan of Warhammer.. you know, the whole thing. But Warhammer: Age of Reckoning didn't live up to his expectations... that means he expected more than what was actually delivered.
this is common, most of us expect too much because we are promised too much, its just how the whole thing works. you seem to be attacking a fan of the game and IP because they said a few things weren't great, that right there is the mark of a fanboi.
he never expected to "pull items out of his monitor", you're simply attacking his very... mild opinions with crazy flames of how godly WAR is.
I have a CE on preorder, I will be getting it the day it comes out, I will be playing WAR a lot for at least 2-3 months, and then seen how it is doing, I'm a FAN OF WAR. but even I can see you are a total fanboi, try to be a bit more understanding that WAR isn't perfect, or even the "best" MMO out there. A game can be good without being better than WoW in every way, you just need to accept that.
watch your words or i might attack you. im sick of these "expectations", these people are imagining some holy grail game that they dream of everyday or something. WAr is exacltly what the devs said it will be. you must be confused with conan or something. people are making up the imaginary mmo that all mmo should base there standards off of, its ridicoulous because this uber mmo doesnt exist.
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
fun is subjective, there are plenty of other games that are more fun than WAR, its all based on the person. Some people find peggle more fun than WAR.
and really, you say all other MMOs have going for them are kill this kill that. thats what WAR is all about! bashing in heads, killing things. when you count "clickin on trees" as one reason why WAR is more fun than EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE, you are reaching, a lot.
WAR is not perfect, WAR is not the best game out there. Its ok if you find it fun, but that doesn't make it fun for everyone else, once you accept that this game doesn't have to be better than WoW or AoC or other games to be fun you'll be better off.
till then, you're the troll here, not everyone else.
i cant be the troll im the OP. be gone.
While I agree that a segment of the MMORPG audience prefers expansive PvE and crafting opportunities in a game, that certainly does not mean a game has to have those elements to be successful. I will point to City of Heroes/Villians as an example of a fun to play MMORPG without any crafting element at all in the game. On the other hand Vanguard had one of the most extensive and involved crafting systems of any MMORPG I've played along with an extensive hardcore PvE mechanic, and it did abysmally in terms of player approval. The factor that is important is whether a game is fun to play, not whether it meets a theoretical "checklist" of necessary MMORPG features that have been implemented by a predecessor in the field. For example, aren't there some people still waiting on player owned housing in WoW.
You can speculate whether a game will be fun all day off of the design specs, but until you get in and try it you will never know if it meets your expectations of what is fun for you. However, if you already know that EQ2 is your cup of tea, then why not continue to enjoy playing it. If you already know that a Vanguard like crafting system is what you require to have fun in a game, then just acknowledge that WAR is not for you and walk away.
I hope this helps.
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
fun is subjective, there are plenty of other games that are more fun than WAR, its all based on the person. Some people find peggle more fun than WAR.
and really, you say all other MMOs have going for them are kill this kill that. thats what WAR is all about! bashing in heads, killing things. when you count "clickin on trees" as one reason why WAR is more fun than EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE, you are reaching, a lot.
WAR is not perfect, WAR is not the best game out there. Its ok if you find it fun, but that doesn't make it fun for everyone else, once you accept that this game doesn't have to be better than WoW or AoC or other games to be fun you'll be better off.
till then, you're the troll here, not everyone else.
you left out about 3/4 of the other things i said, not just "clicking on trees". also what game is better and offers more things to do? you failed to answer that to? you all are farting out of your mouths. "the game is great, but there is one thing i don't like". stop being picky whiny babies, if the game is great, then it's great, leave it at that. if theres something that bothers you so much about the game DONT BUY IT! that simple.
like a virgin, heeeee. what ever noob. obviously you have age of conan syndrome. cry like a baby because funcom let you down. now you dont trust any devs to fix problems by release. like i said:
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
your the pathetic one for trolling these forums. if the game is so damn boring why the hell are you here?
Never played AOC. I could tell it was going to have a lot of problems the way they tries to hide the game in the beta. (nor am I a WOW fan before you resort to that)
Noob, that's rich. I have only been a member of this board for over 4 years now. Your really stretching if that's the best you can come up with. Before I was only calling your position pathetic, but Resorting to callling someone a troll and a noob after they criticise you does pretty much make you pathetic.
I haven't played WAR either. I never said it was boring. I said that was what others have said. I'm just saying your comment about a game being "only in Beta" is misplaced and actually shows your own inability to reasonably criticise a game.
As for why I'm here: because I am a MMO enthusiast and reading up on others opinions/veiws/experiences about games to furthur expand my knowledge about the industry, community, and specific games.
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
fun is subjective, there are plenty of other games that are more fun than WAR, its all based on the person. Some people find peggle more fun than WAR.
and really, you say all other MMOs have going for them are kill this kill that. thats what WAR is all about! bashing in heads, killing things. when you count "clickin on trees" as one reason why WAR is more fun than EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE, you are reaching, a lot.
WAR is not perfect, WAR is not the best game out there. Its ok if you find it fun, but that doesn't make it fun for everyone else, once you accept that this game doesn't have to be better than WoW or AoC or other games to be fun you'll be better off.
till then, you're the troll here, not everyone else.
i cant be the troll im the OP. be gone.
An actual troll is someone who has a position/area to protect and protects it at any cost beyond the use of reason. As in the farie tall of the Troll protecting his bridge.
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
fun is subjective, there are plenty of other games that are more fun than WAR, its all based on the person. Some people find peggle more fun than WAR.
and really, you say all other MMOs have going for them are kill this kill that. thats what WAR is all about! bashing in heads, killing things. when you count "clickin on trees" as one reason why WAR is more fun than EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE, you are reaching, a lot.
WAR is not perfect, WAR is not the best game out there. Its ok if you find it fun, but that doesn't make it fun for everyone else, once you accept that this game doesn't have to be better than WoW or AoC or other games to be fun you'll be better off.
till then, you're the troll here, not everyone else.
i cant be the troll im the OP. be gone.
An actual troll is someone who has a position/area to protect and protects it at any cost beyond the use of reason. As in the farie tall of the Troll protecting his bridge.
and your in the right for feeding a troll, get lost?
And i thought this post was going to be about space marine glory.
The ultimate solution to every problem: more space marines.
like a virgin, heeeee. what ever noob. obviously you have age of conan syndrome. cry like a baby because funcom let you down. now you dont trust any devs to fix problems by release. like i said:
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
your the pathetic one for trolling these forums. if the game is so damn boring why the hell are you here?
Never played AOC. I could tell it was going to have a lot of problems the way they tries to hide the game in the beta. (nor am I a WOW fan before you resort to that)
Noob, that's rich. I have only been a member of this board for over 4 years now. Your really stretching if that's the best you can come up with. Before I was only calling your position pathetic, but Resorting to callling someone a troll and a noob after they criticise you does pretty much make you pathetic.
I haven't played WAR either. I never said it was boring. I said that was what others have said. I'm just saying your comment about a game being "only in Beta" is misplaced and actually shows your own inability to reasonably criticise a game.
As for why I'm here: because I am a MMO enthusiast and reading up on others opinions/veiws/experiences about games to furthur expand my knowledge about the industry, community, and specific games.
"I haven't played WAR either. I never said it was boring. I said that was what others have said. "
well maybe thats the problem, i have. be gone.