Something's been bothering me..

Nierro

3 people have been arrested with walkie-talkies, high powered rifles with scopes, and motive to assassinate Barack Obama. Small, small story. Not on the media. They were never referred to as terrorists.

Imagine if they were muslims that were arrested in connection to a conspiracy to assassinate John McCain?

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/050712/12natsec.htm Do you think people call them terrorists?

Yet some idiot that converted to Islam tried to light his shoes on fire and now we have to place our shoes on a tray in the airport.

bluberryhaze

that guy with the sniper rifle, what was his name? him and that kid that were blowing away people at random, in gas stations...John something. anyways, thats a terrorist.

guys with plots and rifles with a single target in mind, are assasins.

are you referring to the recent 3 guys? they were meth heads who were ridiculous i read.

baff

I thought he was a serial killer.

 

Terrorists are politically motivated, and I didn't realise that Washington sniper guy was.

Nierro

Originally posted by bluberryhaze


that guy with the sniper rifle, what was his name? him and that kid that were blowing away people at random, in gas stations...John something. anyways, thats a terrorist.
guys with plots and rifles with a single target in mind, are assasins.
are you referring to the recent 3 guys? they were meth heads who were ridiculous i read.

I just heard an interview with a guy who read the investigation. It's a politically motivated assassination plot from Nazi scum. There's little doubt about it. They're terrorists.

 Baff; So by that definition the conservative who shot up that church was a terrorist, yes? Will anyone call him that? No.

frodus

The secret service has the toughest job in the world protecting our want-a-bees prez. I believe i will never understand why people hate and don't want to see a black man be prez,its just over my head i suppose.I'll never vote for Obama but he must and will have the chance just like every-one else.Its just got to be a vary hard job.the thought scares me too

bluberryhaze

Originally posted by baff


I thought he was a serial killer.
 
Terrorists are politically motivated, and I didn't realise that Washington sniper guy was.

 

i guess serial killers do evoke terrorism. being in the state of terror?

assasin for a president.

and if he was a muslim extremist, a terrorist assasin.

pretty easy.

tvalentine

a friend of mine jokingly said that we would be voting for V presidents, mainly because if obama gets elected, white supremesists will assasinate him, and if mccain is elected he will die of old age in office .... seeing these assasins, i think hes right.

Grunty

"Yet some idiot that converted to Islam tried to light his explosive filled shoes on fire and now we have to place our shoes on a tray in the airport."

 

BushMonkey

Originally posted by baff


I thought he was a serial killer.
 
Terrorists are politically motivated, and I didn't realise that Washington sniper guy was.

 

Not nessaccerily are terrorist motivated be mere politics.



The word "terrorism" is politically and emotionally charged,^[1] and this greatly compounds the difficulty of providing a precise definition. A 2003 study by Jeffrey Record for the US Army quoted a source (Schmid and Jongman 1988) that counted 109 definitions of terrorism that covered a total of 22 different definitional elements.^[2] Record continues "Terrorism expert Walter Laqueur also has counted over 100 definitions and concludes that the 'only general characteristic generally agreed upon is that terrorism involves violence and the threat of violence.' Yet terrorism is hardly the only enterprise involving violence and the threat of violence. So does war, coercive diplomacy, and barroom brawls

1.	a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.

2.	a person who terrorizes or frightens others.

3.	(formerly) a member of a political group in Russia aiming at the demoralization of the government by terror.

4.	an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France.

–adjective

5.	of, pertaining to, or characteristic of terrorism or terrorists: terrorist tactics.

Terrorist" is a word used so often and so loosely that it has lost a clear meaning.

This is a proposal to lend some clarity to the definition, and thus hopefully to the use, of the word "terrorist."

Currently, the term "terrorist" is applied to the use of force most often on the basis of whether the speaker agrees with the goal of the violence.  Hence the expression "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter

http://www.therationalradical.com/dsep/terrorist-definition.htm



^ further reading

Enigma

Originally posted by bluberryhaze


that guy with the sniper rifle, what was his name? him and that kid that were blowing away people at random, in gas stations...John something. anyways, thats a terrorist.
 

 

Yeah the Maryland Beltway Snipers. I actually was involved in one of the scenes. (if you search for my post you would find it...it was a couple years ago).

I was pumping gas before taking my son to the doctors. He's 6 now but he was only 6 months old at the time.  To make a long story short the very next guy who pumped gas at that very pump was shot dead. If you look up the victims he was the one shot travelling from Philadelphia. He was shot dead in Fredericksburg, VA.  I was a person of interest as a witness and was interviewed by the FBI, Fredericksburh Police, Virginia State Police and the ATF. It was a two day process.  About one month later they were caught.

I say this because I would classify them as terrorist. They struck terror in hundreds of thousands of people because they shot people from Richmond, VA to near Washington DC. They were terrorist.

The guys who tried to assassinate Obama were assassins. Its not a race card or a black card or a minority card or a democratic card. Trust me, the media would not hype this if McCain was the target. Republicans and or conservatives often gets the shaft int he media. Look at Obama. That man only has about 3 years of Senate experience and thats it; yet the media revers him as a God.

Trust me...this isn't about media bias or a race card. Its simply a matter of media perspective and what the media decides to monitor more or not.

I wouldn't try to read too much into it

Zedirate

i like your white cat..it looks like lazy and greedy..haha like me very much - - however, i'm not so white lol