Pilot program sounds more like a trial program than a beta.
You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Ah, you could well be right. I thought the pilot thing was odd, but put it down to bad translation. But, a testing of the product sounds feasible.
Several native greek speakers have confirmed that the text used is the formal wording for 'beta'.
A swing and a miss vapourtroll, nice try though! can we get any other vapourtroll in here or are you al reeling from being wtfpwned (again)?
Not sure if that's aimed at me, but I never said it was vapourware. What I have said is that it will be a mess if it does ever release. Oddly enough, the anmouncement of a publisher with no MMO experience hasn't changed my mind on that.
Pilot program sounds more like a trial program than a beta.
You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Ah, you could well be right. I thought the pilot thing was odd, but put it down to bad translation. But, a testing of the product sounds feasible.
Several native greek speakers have confirmed that the text used is the formal wording for 'beta'.
A swing and a miss vapourtroll, nice try though! can we get any other vapourtroll in here or are you al reeling from being wtfpwned (again)?
Not sure if that's aimed at me, but I never said it was vapourware. What I have said is that it will be a mess if it does ever release. Oddly enough, the anmouncement of a publisher with no MMO experience hasn't changed my mind on that.
you seem to forget tasos has stated that it will stay in playtesting as long as it needs too
Pilot program sounds more like a trial program than a beta.
You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Ah, you could well be right. I thought the pilot thing was odd, but put it down to bad translation. But, a testing of the product sounds feasible.
Several native greek speakers have confirmed that the text used is the formal wording for 'beta'.
A swing and a miss eh vapourtrolls? nice try though! Any other vapourtrolls game to step up or are you all reeling from being wtfpwned (again)?
Vapourtrolls are now VAPOURLOLs.
Actually a trial version would be better than a beta. It's used to get the users opinion of the game rather than hunt for bugs.
I also would advice of keeping the gloating to a minimum. You are not in the game yet and much can happen before release.
--- And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. John Smedley, SOE
So you think graphics that belong on a game 4+ years ago is superior to this??
That's a render, not an actual in-game screenshot.
IMO most likely a high-res screenshot. poor quality models & textures though. DF2008 screenshots blow this out of the park even at low res - just look at the low polygon count of the foreground actor, especially the head, and the low quality shadows. eek.
This is excellent news. This means we can reasonably expect some sort of beta in October, and that release within this year is not completely out of the question. Now all that remains to be seen is what state the game is in, which we will soon enough, as well as the video. This also means I'm backing out of a certain bet I was about to make . Either way we have a deadline imposed on Aventurine now, so it means chances are good of getting a lot more info on the state of the game in the next few months than we have ever before, namely coming from a pilot build. I understand the philosophy behind letting the product speak for itself, but I don't agree with it, they should market it, even EVE has gone this far through aggressive marketing.
damnit you sob!!! i just found this thread after making my shout out thread trying to find you!!!
well clearly i missed out...but at least i got to embarras gmny and some others who wouldnt even respond to it. ps i think gmny is bant now so a little birdy told me....
anyways Silvarch...i will settle for a gentlemanly nod of approval of my (hopefully) correct side of the bet
I am glad to see that this thing has gone so many pages with minimal trolling...because lol like before they had nothing to stand on, and now its not any better.
Im laughing at the previous trolls (not all of you in this thread, some of you always said that they believe DF is real, just in crappy shape) that are now saying well fine its real, but it must suck! Please trust my opinion even though i recently just swore that the game was a hoax!
And im laughing at people who think the developers level of experience gives it any more or less of a chance to be a solid game. Um AoC? Vanguard? cant do much worse than those so their size and experience really does nothing.
For graphics...its personal taste. I for one think AoC's graphics are terrible, very realistic looking but arent realistic if that makes sense. It just looks clunky and of course performance is hurt by it. Im also more into gameplay as long as the graphics are good enough, which DF's are. I think most people feel the same way too.
But of course Darkfall's graphics is probably the next best thing for trolls to troll about now, so yea not surprised.
tomorrow we will hopefully have an official update and you will see me posting "i shat myself...TWICE!!!"
Now we have gone from a vaporware game to a existing game in like what....10 minutes.
"The forward blockade has fallen .... Trolls, fall back to the gate! We will hold there for the time being..."
Xris said and I quote "I also would advice of keeping the gloating to a minimum. You are not in the game yet and much can happen before release." I think that would be wise advice for the both of you.
In War - Victory. In Peace - Vigilance. In Death - Sacrifice.
Release Oct 2008? This keeps getting better and better. There is no way this game is releasing in 2 months. Perhaps a Beta.. but release? Hell no
I think by pilot they mean beta.
This are good news first because the MoU turned into an agreement and second because we may have some beta testers telling us how the game is!
I hope its an open beta (so no NDA for the testers).
EDIT: about the graphic discussion. It was a press release... what do you expect them to say? Of course, AVE will say the graphics rock! AVE will want to sell copies. I, personally, dont care about graphics. I want them to be all the good the devs can make them... but I prefer devs to focus on performance and gameplay.
its funny how some of the vaportrolls immediately switched to criticising the graphics, after these news were released. but after all, its also amazing how very few vaportrolls contributed to this thread so far, they normally have always something to say to the topic
QFT
Very surprised i havent seem something like: "Omg that press release isnt in english noobs...who can really tell what it says...it could be anything!!!"
"Aventurine and Audiovisual signed a final agreement on the exclusive cooperation of the two companies for the publishing, distribution and utilization in any and all forms, in Greece and in 50 other countries, of the MMORPG named Darkfall. Audiovisual will pay royalties to Aventurine based on the predicted sales."
Predicted sales? Not actual sales? That has to be a mistranslation. "I predict we'll sell fifty bazillion units. Pay me now because I'll be in the Cayman Islands on my yacht next week."
That line stood out to me as well, Zymurgeist. From what I can find, it looks like Audiovisual is a DVD/VHS distributor. Their website is in Greek.
www.audiovisual.gr
I am sure the DF fans (who are so happy right now) might dismiss it as nitpicking, but that doesn't do anything to convince me that the game actually exists yet. It sounds like they are trying to get an influx of cash based on those "predicted" sales.
Who gets to predict the sales, and based on what, I don't know. One would think the publisher would have legal provisions to prevent them from being scammed by empty promises, but again I don't know.
Anyway, this is certainly something for the DF hopefuls to chew on. I remain extremely skeptical, though, and I remain convinced there is no way they will release in 2008. Also, I remain 100% convinced that no MMO can be "internally beta tested" by "professional beta testers," so if any client ever does emerge for the public to try, expect the game to be in a very rough alpha state - no matter what they are calling it.
So I offer a very limited congrats to you hopefuls, but I caution you to keep your critical eye open wide. After all, we still are just seeing words as proof of DF.
"Aventurine and Audiovisual signed a final agreement on the exclusive cooperation of the two companies for the publishing, distribution and utilization in any and all forms, in Greece and in 50 other countries, of the MMORPG named Darkfall. Audiovisual will pay royalties to Aventurine based on the predicted sales."
Predicted sales? Not actual sales? That has to be a mistranslation. "I predict we'll sell fifty bazillion units. Pay me now because I'll be in the Cayman Islands on my yacht next week."
That line stood out to me as well, Zymurgeist. From what I can find, it looks like Audiovisual is a DVD/VHS distributor. Their website is in Greek.
www.audiovisual.gr
I am sure the DF fans (who are so happy right now) might dismiss it as nitpicking, but that doesn't do anything to convince me that the game actually exists yet. It sounds like they are trying to get an influx of cash based on those "predicted" sales.
Who gets to predict the sales, and based on what, I don't know. One would think the publisher would have legal provisions to prevent them from being scammed by empty promises, but again I don't know.
Anyway, this is certainly something for the DF hopefuls to chew on. I remain extremely skeptical, though, and I remain convinced there is no way they will release in 2008. Also, I remain 100% convinced that no MMO can be "internally beta tested" by "professional beta testers," so if any client ever does emerge for the public to try, expect the game to be in a very rough alpha state - no matter what they are calling it.
So I offer a very limited congrats to you hopefuls, but I caution you to keep your critical eye open wide. After all, we still are just seeing words as proof of DF.
if its a mess we will know about it. noone here has said its not going to have issue we are waiting to see on that. but dont say it will with out any proof on it.
So you think graphics that belong on a game 4+ years ago is superior to this??
That is a really ugly screenshot. That screenie turn me off instantly. Darkfall graphics with its dark and gothic settings is just superior any other MMORPG of today. Edit- means the graphic style of Darkfall is superior any other MMORPG out today.
This is a matter of taste of course.
But i actually do prefer this screenshot before the one you posted.
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You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Ah, you could well be right. I thought the pilot thing was odd, but put it down to bad translation. But, a testing of the product sounds feasible.
Several native greek speakers have confirmed that the text used is the formal wording for 'beta'.
A swing and a miss vapourtroll, nice try though! can we get any other vapourtroll in here or are you al reeling from being wtfpwned (again)?
Not sure if that's aimed at me, but I never said it was vapourware. What I have said is that it will be a mess if it does ever release. Oddly enough, the anmouncement of a publisher with no MMO experience hasn't changed my mind on that.
open beta 2008
posible octubre
i canceled pre-orden warhammer
I am going to play the beta darkfall
You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Ah, you could well be right. I thought the pilot thing was odd, but put it down to bad translation. But, a testing of the product sounds feasible.
Several native greek speakers have confirmed that the text used is the formal wording for 'beta'.
A swing and a miss vapourtroll, nice try though! can we get any other vapourtroll in here or are you al reeling from being wtfpwned (again)?
Not sure if that's aimed at me, but I never said it was vapourware. What I have said is that it will be a mess if it does ever release. Oddly enough, the anmouncement of a publisher with no MMO experience hasn't changed my mind on that.
you seem to forget tasos has stated that it will stay in playtesting as long as it needs too
That's a render, not an actual in-game screenshot.
You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Ah, you could well be right. I thought the pilot thing was odd, but put it down to bad translation. But, a testing of the product sounds feasible.
Several native greek speakers have confirmed that the text used is the formal wording for 'beta'.
A swing and a miss eh vapourtrolls? nice try though! Any other vapourtrolls game to step up or are you all reeling from being wtfpwned (again)?
Vapourtrolls are now VAPOURLOLs.
Actually a trial version would be better than a beta. It's used to get the users opinion of the game rather than hunt for bugs.
I also would advice of keeping the gloating to a minimum. You are not in the game yet and much can happen before release.
---
And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
That's a render, not an actual in-game screenshot.
this is not a picture of darkfall
this yes
doesnt look like it
we want the best game
to play with photos realistic,. that the AOC
I and many want a game of truth
No photos
up vaporware
viva el vaporware
most game vaporware as the Darkfall, best
the best DARKFALL
DF models aren't going to be using articulated fingers? Or is that screen shot above just really old?
Edit: Oh and Aragon. Blade & Soul beats Darkfall in graphics and graphics style hands down.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
yes, screen January 2008 + -
half-quality graphics
yea LOL
That's a render, not an actual in-game screenshot.
IMO most likely a high-res screenshot. poor quality models & textures though. DF2008 screenshots blow this out of the park even at low res - just look at the low polygon count of the foreground actor, especially the head, and the low quality shadows. eek.
wtf game is that >>
ahh
damnit you sob!!! i just found this thread after making my shout out thread trying to find you!!!
well clearly i missed out...but at least i got to embarras gmny and some others who wouldnt even respond to it. ps i think gmny is bant now so a little birdy told me....
anyways Silvarch...i will settle for a gentlemanly nod of approval of my (hopefully) correct side of the bet
---sig---
Click this for lulz: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/173737/page/6
so after reading this whole thread now...
I am glad to see that this thing has gone so many pages with minimal trolling...because lol like before they had nothing to stand on, and now its not any better.
Im laughing at the previous trolls (not all of you in this thread, some of you always said that they believe DF is real, just in crappy shape) that are now saying well fine its real, but it must suck! Please trust my opinion even though i recently just swore that the game was a hoax!
And im laughing at people who think the developers level of experience gives it any more or less of a chance to be a solid game. Um AoC? Vanguard? cant do much worse than those so their size and experience really does nothing.
For graphics...its personal taste. I for one think AoC's graphics are terrible, very realistic looking but arent realistic if that makes sense. It just looks clunky and of course performance is hurt by it. Im also more into gameplay as long as the graphics are good enough, which DF's are. I think most people feel the same way too.
But of course Darkfall's graphics is probably the next best thing for trolls to troll about now, so yea not surprised.
tomorrow we will hopefully have an official update and you will see me posting "i shat myself...TWICE!!!"
---sig---
Click this for lulz: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/173737/page/6
Isnt it nice.=)
Now we have gone from a vaporware game to a existing game in like what....10 minutes.
"The forward blockade has fallen .... Trolls, fall back to the gate! We will hold there for the time being..."
Isnt it nice.=)
Now we have gone from a vaporware game to a existing game in like what....10 minutes.
"The forward blockade has fallen .... Trolls, fall back to the gate! We will hold there for the time being..."
Xris said and I quote "I also would advice of keeping the gloating to a minimum. You are not in the game yet and much can happen before release." I think that would be wise advice for the both of you.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
I think by pilot they mean beta.
This are good news first because the MoU turned into an agreement and second because we may have some beta testers telling us how the game is!
I hope its an open beta (so no NDA for the testers).
EDIT: about the graphic discussion. It was a press release... what do you expect them to say? Of course, AVE will say the graphics rock! AVE will want to sell copies. I, personally, dont care about graphics. I want them to be all the good the devs can make them... but I prefer devs to focus on performance and gameplay.
its funny how some of the vaportrolls immediately switched to criticising the graphics, after these news were released.
but after all, its also amazing how very few vaportrolls contributed to this thread so far, they normally have always something to say to the topic
QFT
Very surprised i havent seem something like: "Omg that press release isnt in english noobs...who can really tell what it says...it could be anything!!!"
---sig---
Click this for lulz: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/173737/page/6
That line stood out to me as well, Zymurgeist. From what I can find, it looks like Audiovisual is a DVD/VHS distributor. Their website is in Greek.
www.audiovisual.gr
I am sure the DF fans (who are so happy right now) might dismiss it as nitpicking, but that doesn't do anything to convince me that the game actually exists yet. It sounds like they are trying to get an influx of cash based on those "predicted" sales.
Who gets to predict the sales, and based on what, I don't know. One would think the publisher would have legal provisions to prevent them from being scammed by empty promises, but again I don't know.
Anyway, this is certainly something for the DF hopefuls to chew on. I remain extremely skeptical, though, and I remain convinced there is no way they will release in 2008. Also, I remain 100% convinced that no MMO can be "internally beta tested" by "professional beta testers," so if any client ever does emerge for the public to try, expect the game to be in a very rough alpha state - no matter what they are calling it.
So I offer a very limited congrats to you hopefuls, but I caution you to keep your critical eye open wide. After all, we still are just seeing words as proof of DF.
That line stood out to me as well, Zymurgeist. From what I can find, it looks like Audiovisual is a DVD/VHS distributor. Their website is in Greek.
www.audiovisual.gr
I am sure the DF fans (who are so happy right now) might dismiss it as nitpicking, but that doesn't do anything to convince me that the game actually exists yet. It sounds like they are trying to get an influx of cash based on those "predicted" sales.
Who gets to predict the sales, and based on what, I don't know. One would think the publisher would have legal provisions to prevent them from being scammed by empty promises, but again I don't know.
Anyway, this is certainly something for the DF hopefuls to chew on. I remain extremely skeptical, though, and I remain convinced there is no way they will release in 2008. Also, I remain 100% convinced that no MMO can be "internally beta tested" by "professional beta testers," so if any client ever does emerge for the public to try, expect the game to be in a very rough alpha state - no matter what they are calling it.
So I offer a very limited congrats to you hopefuls, but I caution you to keep your critical eye open wide. After all, we still are just seeing words as proof of DF.
if its a mess we will know about it. noone here has said its not going to have issue we are waiting to see on that. but dont say it will with out any proof on it.
I think it will turn out like Dark and Light if it ever actually does get to public open testing
That is a really ugly screenshot. That screenie turn me off instantly. Darkfall graphics with its dark and gothic settings is just superior any other MMORPG of today. Edit- means the graphic style of Darkfall is superior any other MMORPG out today.
This is a matter of taste of course.
But i actually do prefer this screenshot before the one you posted.
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/races/orks_01?full=1
Lets stay on topic please.
This thread isnt about graphics.
Have a nice day
Anyway, that graphic shot is from Lotro. Not from Darkfall.
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