The graphics are like Everquest with poor animations low polygon models and nasty textures and the game has no visual flare, just very generic. Also I never saw any proof of any gameplay mechanics working, just aload of smoke screens because what they showed was just characters in a world and you can stage a PVP fight and make it look like something its not. For example they showed a keep PVP type thing but tbh they could have just had a PVP fight in a random building which has no impact on the world and they're making out its more than it is. All the time I was watching it I thought...
Dark and Light 2
DnL 2, thats kinda the impression I got too from reading up on this game and seeing the vid. Lots of big promises, but I doubt it is going to deliver much.
Ever since NGE i have been waiting for another sandbox MMO. I tryed EVE alittle, but "playing" a ship was not a fun as playing a character.
So naturally i have been waiting for Darkfall, not by personal choice! Just for the sanbox gameplay. And i was not scared shitless from the new video. I just long for a game with player freedom.
If Pre-CU SWG would come back with a 2008 "update", i would play that in a heartbeat. But untill that happens, im stuck with Darkfall.
i hope both Ryzom and Darkfall (and earthrise? or was it Fallen earth?) sandbox games are successful. we need more of them in the industry. we might even see a big company take on the challenge of developing a sandbox.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
On topic however, i am horribly sick of fantasy. so tired of orcs and elves. Also, if it took this long for the game to develop (what, ten years?) i cant imagine the x-pacs and new content would come too frequently.
"And after blizzard takes over the world, they are gonna gather a bunch of lemmings, sit on their fat asses near a cliff, and watch the little fuzzy bastards suicide dive into the ground below. . . . . all just for their own entertainment."
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
It might be sandboxy, but it doesn't look like it will hold a candle to the original skill system in Star Wars. I loved being able to be anything, any combination of anything and then change if I wanted. What is more free than that.
I have been taking a look at Darkfall though. Will wait to see if they release an ACTUAL gameplay video and not 17 minutes of scripted camera work. Was basically a sales and promotion tool more than anything that really tells how the game would play. And, judging by responses of the various enemies, there was at least some fighting between players and npc's. Or it could have been the famous beta testing bots. Until they can show me a playable game and not a movie done in the game engine, I have to reserve judgement. Would be cool if they deliver though. Gotta have my fingers crossed I guess.
Go check out the Darkfall forums. As shocking as it is they have released an extensive gameplay video and are accepting Beta signups as of today. The graphics are DECENT, not great, but the gameplay is incredible. Don't forget that Darkfall is even more wide open and sandboxy than Pre-CU SWG was. It is 100% skill-based. Go check out the Darkfall forums and watch the videos.
As you state "the gameplay is incredible" I must assume you have actually played it. Do tell us when and where you played it, as I'd hate to think your whole opinion is just based on marketing hype of a game no one has actually played.
You really do make alot of statements ie "even more wide open and sandboxy then Pre-CU SWG was" based on what a video? Oh well Fanboism is alive and well. Eat the hype its good for you!
I've been keeping half an eye on this one as well. It could be fun, i think its more viable option than Darkfall. But i think earthrise/Fallen Earth will be the most viable options to fill the void.
You might get some pvp types interested in DF but most people that played swg won't got to DF because of the ffa pvp and corpse looting. Sandbox or not, getting ganked and having all your stuff taken by a bunch of douche bags isn't what the vast majority of gamers consider fun.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Even if Darkfall is a sandbox it will still be a tard magnet because of the ffa pvp and player looting. I can't wait for it to come out, though, just to get those types of players out of the games I do play.
Even if Darkfall is a sandbox it will still be a tard magnet because of the ffa pvp and player looting. I can't wait for it to come out, though, just to get those types of players out of the games I do play.
You're right on the money with this.
Nothing like giving the psychopaths a place to play.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Even if Darkfall is a sandbox it will still be a tard magnet because of the ffa pvp and player looting. I can't wait for it to come out, though, just to get those types of players out of the games I do play.
You're right on the money with this.
Nothing like giving the psychopaths a place to play.
If DF releases in a playable state with even half the options its supposed to have..beleive me..you'll never see us again.
See you in the dream.. The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
I am as well waiting for Darkfall to come out signed on for the beta and the such and awaitng eagerly to come out. But in the mean time for those waiting and want a sandbox to play atm for free The Saga Of Ryzom is free atm but has limited free accounts left it is a sandbox -skilled based game only cons is the character customization sux. Other than that Im enjoying it like I havent a MMO in years.... and yes there is decay, player housing, unlimted skill options and no cap, and a crafting system
I am as well waiting for Darkfall to come out signed on for the beta and the such and awaitng eagerly to come out. But in the mean time for those waiting and want a sandbox to play atm for free The Saga Of Ryzom is free atm but has limited free accounts left it is a sandbox -skilled based game only cons is the customer customization sux. Other than that Im enjoying it like I havent a MMO in years.... and yes there is decay, player housing, unlimted skill options and no cap, and a crafting system
One of my long-time SWG pals switched over to Ryzom and loved it for the skill based, sand-box type system. I'm thinking of trying it myself .
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DnL 2, thats kinda the impression I got too from reading up on this game and seeing the vid. Lots of big promises, but I doubt it is going to deliver much.
Ever since NGE i have been waiting for another sandbox MMO. I tryed EVE alittle, but "playing" a ship was not a fun as playing a character.
So naturally i have been waiting for Darkfall, not by personal choice! Just for the sanbox gameplay. And i was not scared shitless from the new video. I just long for a game with player freedom.
If Pre-CU SWG would come back with a 2008 "update", i would play that in a heartbeat. But untill that happens, im stuck with Darkfall.
i hope both Ryzom and Darkfall (and earthrise? or was it Fallen earth?) sandbox games are successful. we need more of them in the industry. we might even see a big company take on the challenge of developing a sandbox.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
ugh not more fantasy mixed with Medieval lore
Mortal Online
More freakin Fantasy but I don't see a Sci-Fi game making it anytime soon.
Star Trek will tank, Cryptic will fuck it up.
Earthrise looks very promising for a Sci-Fi sandbox game, check it out.
Tecmo Bowl.
Actually, the only Sci-fi MMO I'm looking forward to is Crusades. Check it out.
http://www.vizualfxstudios.com/crusades/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
Looks to be a pretty fun experience. They're in alpha now. They should really put this up on here soon.
i agree. i'm really looking forward to crusades.
On topic however, i am horribly sick of fantasy. so tired of orcs and elves. Also, if it took this long for the game to develop (what, ten years?) i cant imagine the x-pacs and new content would come too frequently.
"And after blizzard takes over the world, they are gonna gather a bunch of lemmings, sit on their fat asses near a cliff, and watch the little fuzzy bastards suicide dive into the ground below. . . . . all just for their own entertainment."
LOL @ DF. No thanks, it's like Vanguard happened all over again. I'm not falling for that one again.
Luckily you wont have the chance to fall for it again. You will have a chance to play the game before you pay, and there wont even be preorders.
If you are really into sandboxes, I would advise that you at least keep an eye on the beta reactions and reviews at launch.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
It might be sandboxy, but it doesn't look like it will hold a candle to the original skill system in Star Wars. I loved being able to be anything, any combination of anything and then change if I wanted. What is more free than that.
I have been taking a look at Darkfall though. Will wait to see if they release an ACTUAL gameplay video and not 17 minutes of scripted camera work. Was basically a sales and promotion tool more than anything that really tells how the game would play. And, judging by responses of the various enemies, there was at least some fighting between players and npc's. Or it could have been the famous beta testing bots. Until they can show me a playable game and not a movie done in the game engine, I have to reserve judgement. Would be cool if they deliver though. Gotta have my fingers crossed I guess.
How is it Vanguard all over again? Just curious...
Tecmo Bowl.
I already have my sandbox - Ryzom. Nevertheless I'll most likely play Darkfall too.
As you state "the gameplay is incredible" I must assume you have actually played it. Do tell us when and where you played it, as I'd hate to think your whole opinion is just based on marketing hype of a game no one has actually played.
You really do make alot of statements ie "even more wide open and sandboxy then Pre-CU SWG was" based on what a video? Oh well Fanboism is alive and well. Eat the hype its good for you!
I've been keeping half an eye on this one as well. It could be fun, i think its more viable option than Darkfall. But i think earthrise/Fallen Earth will be the most viable options to fill the void.
You might get some pvp types interested in DF but most people that played swg won't got to DF because of the ffa pvp and corpse looting. Sandbox or not, getting ganked and having all your stuff taken by a bunch of douche bags isn't what the vast majority of gamers consider fun.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Neither is SWG, nor was it ever.
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Even if Darkfall is a sandbox it will still be a tard magnet because of the ffa pvp and player looting. I can't wait for it to come out, though, just to get those types of players out of the games I do play.
You're right on the money with this.
Nothing like giving the psychopaths a place to play.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
You're right on the money with this.
Nothing like giving the psychopaths a place to play.
If DF releases in a playable state with even half the options its supposed to have..beleive me..you'll never see us again.
See you in the dream..
The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
I am as well waiting for Darkfall to come out signed on for the beta and the such and awaitng eagerly to come out. But in the mean time for those waiting and want a sandbox to play atm for free The Saga Of Ryzom is free atm but has limited free accounts left it is a sandbox -skilled based game only cons is the character customization sux. Other than that Im enjoying it like I havent a MMO in years.... and yes there is decay, player housing, unlimted skill options and no cap, and a crafting system
One of my long-time SWG pals switched over to Ryzom and loved it for the skill based, sand-box type system. I'm thinking of trying it myself
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This does look interesting, and I'm quite impressed to see they're asking people for input on what we as gamers want in a sandbox MMO.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/200177
It's nice to see a developer that wants to work with gamers!