hell, I hate Lineage 2 and I agree with Gameloading. In addition graphics isnt everything. Wait until you guys play it. Its just bad all around
You're kind of late. It seems like I ended the argument between the graphics of those two games.
if you ended the argument, then you would realize you are falling for something that isn't real and if it is real, then they are laughing you all the way to the bank.
I use to think you were one of the few reasonable people on these forums, I guess I was wrong. Which leaves me to wonder who else is hiding behind so thin a veil. . . Curious how you would go to such a low level in assaulting not only a game, but those that appreciate it.
I'm more of the Hero's Journey sort, as opposed to the Darkfall sort, but I do think Darkfall has some nice artwork to help make up for some of the graphical downfalls. Although those cannon blasts are rightfully ridiculed.
The graphics don't seem as bad to me as a lot of people make them out to be, but it all boils down to personal taste. I do hope Darkfall releases for you guys, and that it's everything you are expecting it to be.
hell, I hate Lineage 2 and I agree with Gameloading. In addition graphics isnt everything. Wait until you guys play it. Its just bad all around
You're kind of late. It seems like I ended the argument between the graphics of those two games.
if you ended the argument, then you would realize you are falling for something that isn't real and if it is real, then they are laughing you all the way to the bank.
I use to think you were one of the few reasonable people on these forums, I guess I was wrong. Which leaves me to wonder who else is hiding behind so thin a veil. . . Curious how you would go to such a low level in assaulting not only a game, but those that appreciate it.
I'm more of the Hero's Journey sort, as opposed to the Darkfall sort, but I do think Darkfall has some nice artwork to help make up for some of the graphical downfalls. Although those cannon blasts are rightfully ridiculed.
The graphics don't seem as bad to me as a lot of people make them out to be, but it all boils down to personal taste. I do hope Darkfall releases for you guys, and that it's everything you are expecting it to be.
Good luck, and good gaming.
good lord...enigma i think it is time to just bow out, he just said what we all are thinking.
and yes, the graphics are not omg amazing, but they are fine and you (enigma) have no grounds to try and convince the fans of this game that they shouldnt be happy. if you dont like it, fine say that, but dont tell the fans that we shouldnt be happy. grow up.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
hell, I hate Lineage 2 and I agree with Gameloading. In addition graphics isnt everything. Wait until you guys play it. Its just bad all around
You're kind of late. It seems like I ended the argument between the graphics of those two games.
if you ended the argument, then you would realize you are falling for something that isn't real and if it is real, then they are laughing you all the way to the bank.
I use to think you were one of the few reasonable people on these forums, I guess I was wrong.
If you saw what players went through with the Game Mourning on here then you will realize I am being very responsible for stating what I stated. But, like I have said in another post, people who fail to see the past histories in terms of dissapointment are doomed to repeat it.
Just because I have questioned a game for the only forums you ever post in, then I regret to have hurt your feelings in that way. I am still the same Enigma and I will still stand on what I believe to be a game that is taken people for a ride; I know you are devoted to Darkfall. That's fine. Good for you. But I am not and I am posting because of what I believe. And Im not the only one. If you still think Im being unresponsible then so be it. That's your choice.
Look at my post histories. My time as a staff member here. I dont "pick on a video game" unless I have a good cause to do so.
And my posts aren't geared against just the graphics. Its geared against everything. I do agree you can have poor graphics and a great game engine and implementation. I am not questioning that. Its the game as a whole that I find questionable.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
When are you guys going to learn about MMO and graphics. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. As graphics increase everthing else decreases.
IMO graphics should never be top priority in MMO's flasy graphics are for console and few PC games. I dont play MMO's for graphics. I play MMO's for the community aspect and content. For an MMO to have high quality graphics, other aspects of an MMO will fail (content and gameplay). Right now it is just to damn hard for the devs to pull everything off with their budgets. If you ask me good MMO's will always be a few steps back in the graphics department. If you must have your eye candy(top graphics), there will be more MMO's like AoC for you guys, but when its a steaming pile of crap, content, gameplay, and community wise please dont come crying on how bad it is to us.
The kids these days just can not understand the technical aspects vs cost of implementing HQ graphics in a massive world of an MMO. AoC did it by instancing the piss out of everything, which really kills your community, and content. So if you want your HQ graphics id suggest you stay away from MMO's
This is a revised version of a post I made on the WAR boards. about the same thing lowerer quality graphics.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore) Now Playing: N/A Worst MMO: FFXIV Favorite MMO: FFXI
I could care less about graphics, give me gameplay every time. However the graphics in that video were like a downgraded version of shadowbane, I'd think they can do a bit better than that. I'm still not buying that the game isn't going to be the next AOC but the trailer was interesting enough to put the game on the radar for me at least.
shadowbane made my eyes bleed
Don't go trashing SB
It was fun back in it's day. Death server forever!
hell, I hate Lineage 2 and I agree with Gameloading. In addition graphics isnt everything. Wait until you guys play it. Its just bad all around
You're kind of late. It seems like I ended the argument between the graphics of those two games.
if you ended the argument, then you would realize you are falling for something that isn't real and if it is real, then they are laughing you all the way to the bank.
I use to think you were one of the few reasonable people on these forums, I guess I was wrong.
If you saw what players went through with the Game Mourning on here then you will realize I am being very responsible for stating what I stated. But, like I have said in another post, people who fail to see the past histories in terms of dissapointment are doomed to repeat it.
Just because I have questioned a game for the only forums you ever post in, then I regret to have hurt your feelings in that way. I am still the same Enigma and I will still stand on what I believe to be a game that is taken people for a ride; I know you are devoted to Darkfall. That's fine. Good for you. But I am not and I am posting because of what I believe. And Im not the only one. If you still think Im being unresponsible then so be it. That's your choice.
Look at my post histories. My time as a staff member here. I dont "pick on a video game" unless I have a good cause to do so.
And my posts aren't geared against just the graphics. Its geared against everything. I do agree you can have poor graphics and a great game engine and implementation. I am not questioning that. Its the game as a whole that I find questionable.
GEt over mourning darkfall has nothing to do with it
Really why are you arguing about the graphics guys? That can be solved really quick.
The real problem is the game engine, it looks like utter crap. I have no words to describe how awful it is. And fixing a game engine is not so quick as fixing the graphics. They were better off buying the U3 engine and modifying it for their own needs, or employing better programmers to code their own. Its unbelievable how crappy it is now.
Originally posted by downtoearth Originally posted by SephyrMK Really why are you arguing about the graphics guys? That can be solved really quick.
The real problem is the game engine, it looks like utter crap. I have no words to describe how awful it is. And fixing a game engine is not so quick as fixing the graphics. They were better off buying the U3 engine and modifying it for their own needs, or employing better programmers to code their own. Its unbelievable how crappy it is now.
have you seen the engine LOL
ya we all have...and its a pretty old one...I could probably name you at least 5 engines that are better than the one in DF since I have used them all and they look 10 times better
Optimal graphics for what the game is attempting to accomplish gameplay wise.
You are also insane if you dont look at some of the scenes in the video and cant appreciate the land. Character animations need a little help, but that outpost on the river thing, the scene after that with a temple lookin thing....absolutly amazing.
Sorry the game doesnt have AoC graphics...but obviously that is a GOOD thing.
All you trolls saying omg this doesnt have next gen graphics...show me a mainstream mmo that is a big success right now that has the top of the line graphics a computer could produce. WoW? Warhammer? Eve is great but not as great and has population numbers like DF may see. LOTRO?
cmon give it a rest. hopefully we are done with the wave of graphic attacks since the trolls needed something to attack now.
or....watch the gave in hd and get off youtube please.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Really why are you arguing about the graphics guys? That can be solved really quick.
The real problem is the game engine, it looks like utter crap. I have no words to describe how awful it is. And fixing a game engine is not so quick as fixing the graphics. They were better off buying the U3 engine and modifying it for their own needs, or employing better programmers to code their own. Its unbelievable how crappy it is now.
have you seen the engine LOL
ya we all have...and its a pretty old one...I could probably name you at least 5 engines that are better than the one in DF since I have used them all and they look 10 times better
k have fun with that. except all them other engines probly couldnt do everything df is aiming for
Look at 10:00 to 10:25 on a high quality version of the video on THIS http://vimeo.com/1631260 version which isnt even the best of the best quality.
Seriously it may not be crysis, but those graphics are absolutly amazing for what this game can accomplish. Saying its like pong or 1990s graphics is just obvious trolling.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Really why are you arguing about the graphics guys? That can be solved really quick.
The real problem is the game engine, it looks like utter crap. I have no words to describe how awful it is. And fixing a game engine is not so quick as fixing the graphics. They were better off buying the U3 engine and modifying it for their own needs, or employing better programmers to code their own. Its unbelievable how crappy it is now.
have you seen the engine LOL
ya we all have...and its a pretty old one...I could probably name you at least 5 engines that are better than the one in DF since I have used them all and they look 10 times better
Don't let anyone stop you. Why is it that no one actually uses a complete, solid arguement to put this game down? Starting to make me think there isn't one.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
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You're kind of late. It seems like I ended the argument between the graphics of those two games.
if you ended the argument, then you would realize you are falling for something that isn't real and if it is real, then they are laughing you all the way to the bank.
I use to think you were one of the few reasonable people on these forums, I guess I was wrong. Which leaves me to wonder who else is hiding behind so thin a veil. . . Curious how you would go to such a low level in assaulting not only a game, but those that appreciate it.
I'm more of the Hero's Journey sort, as opposed to the Darkfall sort, but I do think Darkfall has some nice artwork to help make up for some of the graphical downfalls. Although those cannon blasts are rightfully ridiculed.
The graphics don't seem as bad to me as a lot of people make them out to be, but it all boils down to personal taste. I do hope Darkfall releases for you guys, and that it's everything you are expecting it to be.
Good luck, and good gaming.
You're kind of late. It seems like I ended the argument between the graphics of those two games.
if you ended the argument, then you would realize you are falling for something that isn't real and if it is real, then they are laughing you all the way to the bank.
I use to think you were one of the few reasonable people on these forums, I guess I was wrong. Which leaves me to wonder who else is hiding behind so thin a veil. . . Curious how you would go to such a low level in assaulting not only a game, but those that appreciate it.
I'm more of the Hero's Journey sort, as opposed to the Darkfall sort, but I do think Darkfall has some nice artwork to help make up for some of the graphical downfalls. Although those cannon blasts are rightfully ridiculed.
The graphics don't seem as bad to me as a lot of people make them out to be, but it all boils down to personal taste. I do hope Darkfall releases for you guys, and that it's everything you are expecting it to be.
Good luck, and good gaming.
good lord...enigma i think it is time to just bow out, he just said what we all are thinking.
and yes, the graphics are not omg amazing, but they are fine and you (enigma) have no grounds to try and convince the fans of this game that they shouldnt be happy. if you dont like it, fine say that, but dont tell the fans that we shouldnt be happy. grow up.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Your worship is duly noted.
Have you played the game?
See you in game JonnyBigBoy, and thanks for your support.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
You're kind of late. It seems like I ended the argument between the graphics of those two games.
if you ended the argument, then you would realize you are falling for something that isn't real and if it is real, then they are laughing you all the way to the bank.
I use to think you were one of the few reasonable people on these forums, I guess I was wrong.
If you saw what players went through with the Game Mourning on here then you will realize I am being very responsible for stating what I stated. But, like I have said in another post, people who fail to see the past histories in terms of dissapointment are doomed to repeat it.
Just because I have questioned a game for the only forums you ever post in, then I regret to have hurt your feelings in that way. I am still the same Enigma and I will still stand on what I believe to be a game that is taken people for a ride; I know you are devoted to Darkfall. That's fine. Good for you. But I am not and I am posting because of what I believe. And Im not the only one. If you still think Im being unresponsible then so be it. That's your choice.
Look at my post histories. My time as a staff member here. I dont "pick on a video game" unless I have a good cause to do so.
And my posts aren't geared against just the graphics. Its geared against everything. I do agree you can have poor graphics and a great game engine and implementation. I am not questioning that. Its the game as a whole that I find questionable.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
When are you guys going to learn about MMO and graphics. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. As graphics increase everthing else decreases.
IMO graphics should never be top priority in MMO's flasy graphics are for console and few PC games. I dont play MMO's for graphics. I play MMO's for the community aspect and content. For an MMO to have high quality graphics, other aspects of an MMO will fail (content and gameplay). Right now it is just to damn hard for the devs to pull everything off with their budgets. If you ask me good MMO's will always be a few steps back in the graphics department. If you must have your eye candy(top graphics), there will be more MMO's like AoC for you guys, but when its a steaming pile of crap, content, gameplay, and community wise please dont come crying on how bad it is to us.
The kids these days just can not understand the technical aspects vs cost of implementing HQ graphics in a massive world of an MMO. AoC did it by instancing the piss out of everything, which really kills your community, and content. So if you want your HQ graphics id suggest you stay away from MMO's
This is a revised version of a post I made on the WAR boards. about the same thing lowerer quality graphics.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
shadowbane made my eyes bleed
Don't go trashing SB
It was fun back in it's day. Death server forever!
sorry wasnt trying to bash it
You're kind of late. It seems like I ended the argument between the graphics of those two games.
if you ended the argument, then you would realize you are falling for something that isn't real and if it is real, then they are laughing you all the way to the bank.
I use to think you were one of the few reasonable people on these forums, I guess I was wrong.
If you saw what players went through with the Game Mourning on here then you will realize I am being very responsible for stating what I stated. But, like I have said in another post, people who fail to see the past histories in terms of dissapointment are doomed to repeat it.
Just because I have questioned a game for the only forums you ever post in, then I regret to have hurt your feelings in that way. I am still the same Enigma and I will still stand on what I believe to be a game that is taken people for a ride; I know you are devoted to Darkfall. That's fine. Good for you. But I am not and I am posting because of what I believe. And Im not the only one. If you still think Im being unresponsible then so be it. That's your choice.
Look at my post histories. My time as a staff member here. I dont "pick on a video game" unless I have a good cause to do so.
And my posts aren't geared against just the graphics. Its geared against everything. I do agree you can have poor graphics and a great game engine and implementation. I am not questioning that. Its the game as a whole that I find questionable.
GEt over mourning darkfall has nothing to do with it
have you seen the engine LOL
have you seen the engine LOL
ya we all have...and its a pretty old one...I could probably name you at least 5 engines that are better than the one in DF since I have used them all and they look 10 times better
Optimal graphics for what the game is attempting to accomplish gameplay wise.
You are also insane if you dont look at some of the scenes in the video and cant appreciate the land. Character animations need a little help, but that outpost on the river thing, the scene after that with a temple lookin thing....absolutly amazing.
Sorry the game doesnt have AoC graphics...but obviously that is a GOOD thing.
All you trolls saying omg this doesnt have next gen graphics...show me a mainstream mmo that is a big success right now that has the top of the line graphics a computer could produce. WoW? Warhammer? Eve is great but not as great and has population numbers like DF may see. LOTRO?
cmon give it a rest. hopefully we are done with the wave of graphic attacks since the trolls needed something to attack now.
or....watch the gave in hd and get off youtube please.
~~
Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
have you seen the engine LOL
ya we all have...and its a pretty old one...I could probably name you at least 5 engines that are better than the one in DF since I have used them all and they look 10 times better
k have fun with that. except all them other engines probly couldnt do everything df is aiming for
Look at 10:00 to 10:25 on a high quality version of the video on THIS http://vimeo.com/1631260 version which isnt even the best of the best quality.
Seriously it may not be crysis, but those graphics are absolutly amazing for what this game can accomplish. Saying its like pong or 1990s graphics is just obvious trolling.
~~
Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
have you seen the engine LOL
ya we all have...and its a pretty old one...I could probably name you at least 5 engines that are better than the one in DF since I have used them all and they look 10 times better
Don't let anyone stop you. Why is it that no one actually uses a complete, solid arguement to put this game down? Starting to make me think there isn't one.
_Seeker,
Yea you may be on to somethin there lol
~~
Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos