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Open Server Ruleset Announced!
Honos
Member Posts: 93
The Open RVR Server Ruleset has been announced, and can be found at this link...
http://www.uptowar.com/archive/168-beta-41-build-notes
The rules are:
Open RvR Server Ruleset
Are you ready for the next challenge in RvR? Do you love the adrenaline rush of always having to look behind your back for the enemy? If so, then we welcome you to Open RvR, where you will either shine or falter in a constant battle for glory! Battle your enemies outside of the RvR lakes and affect the fate of your realm! Your Chapter 1 hub and your capital city are the only locations in the game where you have safe confines, of course that is until your city becomes under attack.
Rules:
Players are always RvR flagged from the moment they log in
Chapter 1 hubs and capital cities are safe
There is no bolster buff in RvR lakes
Players will be chickened when entering lower tiers of content
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My Opinion,
I had planned on playing the "open" ruleset, but I'm disspointed to see chicken remains in the game for "open" servers. This is not because I enjoy ganking lowbies, but I don't want to be chickenized for just zoning into a lower tier areas to do content I missed with my avatar. As you can see from the rules "players are always RVR flagged from the moment they log in" and "Players will be chickened when entering lower tiers of content." The rules cover nothing about actually being in combat first.
This is most disappointing as I do like both content and RVR. I will now stick to "core" ruleset server. However, just my opinion on the matter, what the hell do I know.
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Comments
I think i'll try both types of server.
I had this exact issue with it in beta all along. I was legitimently trying to cap out influence in those zones as I flew past them leveling up that I had to go back to progress my story. I wish there was an easy way for them to fix it but it is tough in a PvP world. They don't want to allow ganking...cool! Just find a way for me to quest their, if I make the first attack, fine im chickened but if I don't attack leave me unflagged.
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hmm no bolster in the RvR lakes... I was really excited about the open ruleset but now I may stick to core.
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I'm actually very pleased with the open server rule set. I will definately be rolling on one to begin with.
Looks like Core for me.
I'll switch to oRvR when they make an Open server.
"There is no bolster buff in RvR lakes"
Looks like their codebase can't handle boosting on Open either and they are too lazy to fix it. Just a hunch but Core will have more PvP then Open,
Bravo...haven't been a big fan after my closed beta experience, but I applaud the approach of "chicken" . AoC keeps trying to tackle this with some huge confounded multi rule system. Why not just go the "chicken" route! No reason for max level toons to be gankning other much lower toons just because and ruining their gaming experience.
what is the bolster buff?
This makes absolutely no sense, you don't get boosted when you flag RvR outside the lakes on a core server. There is no reason it would act differently on an open server except they chose to make it act differently and not give the bolster.
I'm not a big fan of the chicken rule on open servers but there is pretty much no reason to go back to old content in this game. Getting a few more tome unlocks comes up all the time but I have leveled into the 30s before and never felt any desire to do this, it really is a non issue.
The only plausible issue I could have is not being able to help friends with a dungeon or lair or powerlevel them on PQs and not sure that is a bad thing in reality.
It's the buff that raises your stats to an acceptable/even level for the RvR zone of the tier you're in, eg if you're level 11 in the tier 2 zone (which is 10-19 I believe) when you enter the RvR lake you get a bolster buff that raises you to a lvl 18 equivalent. It doesn't give you any skills you would have gotten from the level though, just basic stats and hit/dmg calculations AFAIK. I believe it's intended to even out the field a bit when lower levels come up against higher within a certain tier.
However I don't see why people would mind no bolster in ORvR in lakes as entire zones are open to rvr, lakes will disappear. You'd obviously need to have it permanently on, which would most likely severely mess up PvE.
This makes absolutely no sense, you don't get boosted when you flag RvR outside the lakes on a core server. There is no reason it would act differently on an open server except they chose to make it act differently and not give the bolster.
I'm not a big fan of the chicken rule on open servers but there is pretty much no reason to go back to old content in this game. Getting a few more tome unlocks comes up all the time but I have leveled into the 30s before and never felt any desire to do this, it really is a non issue.
The only plausible issue I could have is not being able to help friends with a dungeon or lair or powerlevel them on PQs and not sure that is a bad thing in reality.
I don't see it as a bad thing either, powerleveling is annoying.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
So you get turned into a chicken when going back to lower lvl areas? That sounds kinda stupid to me if its true. I know its to stop people from ganking lowbies but. Id rather have you stay the same but there is some sort of penalty for killing lower lvl people, or just make it so Higher lvls cant attack lower lvls.
My reason for this is I still would like to go to low lvl places and taunt people. You really can't be intimidating when your a damn chicken.
BLAH WTF ever you just wanted to be able to gank, to bad so sad. HAHA
"I don't to be chickenized for just zoning into a lower tier area to do content I missed " Yeah RIGHT!.
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LOL @ all you scrubs that are mad because you won't be able to gank lowbies. HAHAHAHA
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Sounds great to me.
No ganking lowbies and no power leveling your lower level guildmates to increase your guild's advantage in PvP.
Finally a PvP ruleset that encourages honest, challanging open PvP. I never understood why some people would find lowbie ganking fun anyway.
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Amen. Errr WAAAAGH
Yeah like how they are making it so you cant get ganked by higher lvls and to stop powerleveling. Im all for that, but turning into a chicken is a bit to much for me. Just make it so you cant attack them or they cant attack you. You should still be able to go back to lower lvl parts and taunt and try to intimidate players. Playing mind games with the enemy is fun, going around and snarling at all the Dwarves. But hey if they keep the chickens I guess I just wont go back to those areas. There is no way this Goblin is going to let anyone see him as a chicken.
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Yeah like how they are making it so you cant get ganked by higher lvls and to stop powerleveling. Im all for that, but turning into a chicken is a bit to much for me. Just make it so you cant attack them or they cant attack you. You should still be able to go back to lower lvl parts and taunt and try to intimidate players. Playing mind games with the enemy is fun, going around and snarling at all the Dwarves. But hey if they keep the chickens I guess I just wont go back to those areas. There is no way this Goblin is going to let anyone see him as a chicken.
But .. but ... it is so AWESOME! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh8sHLGUS5U
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I like ganking newbies. But I will not play open because it looks less fun.
Ganking in open will be still posible, 4vs1 combats, if only.
Yeah like how they are making it so you cant get ganked by higher lvls and to stop powerleveling. Im all for that, but turning into a chicken is a bit to much for me. Just make it so you cant attack them or they cant attack you. You should still be able to go back to lower lvl parts and taunt and try to intimidate players. Playing mind games with the enemy is fun, going around and snarling at all the Dwarves. But hey if they keep the chickens I guess I just wont go back to those areas. There is no way this Goblin is going to let anyone see him as a chicken.
But .. but ... it is so AWESOME! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh8sHLGUS5U
LOL I have to admit that was pretty awesome. Seeing a bunch of chickens fight was funny.
Cuz it shows your uberleet skillls amirite?
Although, chicken for zoning is a lil' bit too drastic...
hahaha.. I can almost see the e-peen shrinkage.. nah, but (shrug).. you wanted open, and they gave you open.. for people choosing not to play on open simply because of a chicken rule you will see to it that the open servers dissapear very fast and then you'll have nothing and will be forced to become a.. What do they call us? "Carebear" on the core server..
Since they gave it to you, the least you can do is at least play on it to show them that its what you want and that its not a waste of resources.. But leave it empty and your complaints will not phase the core rule crowd when you are left with only core servers..
You just reminded me of what I hate about Open PvP.. not even the high level with nothing better to do.. but gank squads.. especially because I"m a solo type player (have been since after WoW, tired of little kids everywhere..)
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Yeah like how they are making it so you cant get ganked by higher lvls and to stop powerleveling. Im all for that, but turning into a chicken is a bit to much for me. Just make it so you cant attack them or they cant attack you. You should still be able to go back to lower lvl parts and taunt and try to intimidate players. Playing mind games with the enemy is fun, going around and snarling at all the Dwarves. But hey if they keep the chickens I guess I just wont go back to those areas. There is no way this Goblin is going to let anyone see him as a chicken.
But .. but ... it is so AWESOME! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh8sHLGUS5U
LOL I have to admit that was pretty awesome. Seeing a bunch of chickens fight was funny.
Yeah. Cool thing is that they are the real glass canons versus other chickens. Only 1 wound but their Peck attack deals one damage as well. So you can still one shot chickens in lowbie zones. How cool is that :P
Does anyone know if that Peck attack can crit as well? :O
Edit: Just watched the vid again and I see way more damage being dealt so forget about that 1 wound thingy I suppose.
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Yup yup. This is what I'm hoping for as well.