Core servers have boring PvE and the RvR will be more zerglike.
Open servers have more excitement to the PvE and the RvR will likely be less zerglike.
Spontaneous world PvP will always be more fun to me personally than some artificial forced PvP which is what RvR is. I still enjoy RvR but if given the option to have real world PvP as well I'll take it.
I prefer open, others will prefer core. There is no right or wrong answer here.
But .. but .. when playing on an Open server and traveling back to a lower tier, will you be a chicken regardless of being in a rvr area AND regardless of being in your own races zone? That would be awful. Not so much because of having no option to gank lower lvl'd players but because of unfinished pve business.
I surely hope Mythic will reconsider if this is the case. Open PvP should mean open pvp, just devise a way to prevent higher leveled players from influencing the lower tier battles.(Only chicken in the rvr area's like on Core and flagged but not chickened outside of those).
Yes, that means ganking. But we rolled Open PvP in the first place and we expect to be ganked occasionally, (and get our rocks off from excitement in between).
I remember from my WOW days being in Hillsbrad for the first time and seeing a 'skulled' Tauren warrior looking for little gnomes like me to feed on. It was a great challenge to try and kill a few hordelings around my own level while that 'monster' was out and about. Great fun, to be honoust. Skillfully avoiding a fight you really can't win is more fun to me than to fight a fight which you can't lose. (How's that for a quote?)
Chicken is fine with me in RvR zones but outside of those; open should be open, whatever ugly things might happen. For me, and probably most Open players, the threat of higher leveled players brings excitement to the game.
But .. but .. when playing on an Open server and traveling back to a lower tier, will you be a chicken regardless of being in a rvr area AND regardless of being in your own races zone? That would be awful. Not so much because of having no option to gank lower lvl'd players but because of unfinished pve business. I surely hope Mythic will reconsider if this is the case. Open PvP should mean open pvp, just devise a way to prevent higher leveled players from influencing the lower tier battles.(Only chicken in the rvr area's like on Core and flagged but not chickened outside of those). Yes, that means ganking. But we rolled Open PvP in the first place and we expect to be ganked occasionally, (and get our rocks off from excitement in between). I remember from my WOW days being in Hillsbrad for the first time and seeing a 'skulled' Tauren warrior looking for little gnomes like me to feed on. It was a great challenge to try and kill a few hordelings around my own level while that 'monster' was out and about. Great fun, to be honoust. Skillfully avoiding a fight you really can't win is more fun to me than to fight a fight which you can't lose. (How's that for a quote?) Chicken is fine with me in RvR zones but outside of those; open should be open, whatever ugly things might happen. For me, and probably most Open players, the threat of higher leveled players brings excitement to the game.
Yes, if you outlevel a tier and go back you will be chickenized that includes everywhere you go in that their. Even on the core servers if you are rank 14 and flag yourself the second you zone into tier 1 you become a chicken. The same will happen on an open server except you don't have the choice to unflag yourself. Like I said in a previous post, the open servers were more of an afterthought by Mythic. That is why the rules sound so unrefined.
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Thanks for the answers though. I haven't heard about Open pvp RP servers either so I think I will settle for an RP Core server instead. Untill Open becomes openand RP, that is. If never, then never ...
Bolster has been tried and tested on CoX. the results are dissappointing and the trolling is accurate.
X"Do you have ressurect yet?"
Y"No"
X"Oh shit"
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Why shouldnt you be able to complete TOK pve quests when you are done in tier1 ? as far as i understand it is the plan, that you can only be turned into a chicken in the RVR zones? ^^
With the open rule set everything is considered an RvR zone. This is why returning to get tome unlocks will be borderline impossible.
I would say for this reason alone, I will likely be playing core. I want to be able to experience all of the game. I dont want to have to roll another character to see the other races' lower tiers. I also agree with the OP, sometimes I just want to be able to farm/quest/whatever in peace and not have to deal with some idiot waiting until I am at low health then running up to kill me. Also there is still the option of turning on your RvR flag and giving yourself an even greater challenge because everyone else gets to attack you first. I played on a PvE server in WoW, and my friend and I did this all the time and usually it would turn out to be a lot of fun. There is also the OP's point that if you want to PvP, you might as well be in the RvR area helping the war effort than dicking around.
Bolster has been tried and tested on CoX. the results are dissappointing and the trolling is accurate.
X"Do you have ressurect yet?" Y"No" X"Oh shit"
bolster doesn't work that way in WAR. it doesn't physically change your level, it just gives you a buff that increases stats.
the trolling is not accurate, most of the trolls seemed to think that it actually changes your levels, it doesn't. and because skills scale with your level (you don't learn new levels of the same skill, like fireball 1 2 3 or 4) a level 2's main heal will be just as powerful as a level 8s with bolster.
Bolster works very well. It makes RvR more fun on both sides. Its boring fighting level 2s but anyone who plays WoW knows that level 21s will come into WSG. its better to boost them to 28 than assume they will simply stop coming to WSG. this way my team members aren't completely gimp, and neither are my enemies.
So the trolls need to learn how the game actually works before commenting on this topic, without an understanding of the mechanic. all your stats and skills will upgrade as if you are higher, you won't learn any new skills but your current ones will be on par with those of the other players in the RvR lake or scenario. people will still see your normal level, higher level players will still "con" as much higher than you and thus read as "deadly" or "hopeless he is too high" but you won't get 2shotted.
I was very into open from the moment they said they were going to include them, I've always loved that type of PvP due to my time in Lineage2 when the whole world was like that. but looking at it now, core is going to be a lot more focused, with less ganking, and more options for people at the low end of a tier.
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Core servers have boring PvE and the RvR will be more zerglike.
Open servers have more excitement to the PvE and the RvR will likely be less zerglike.
Spontaneous world PvP will always be more fun to me personally than some artificial forced PvP which is what RvR is. I still enjoy RvR but if given the option to have real world PvP as well I'll take it.
I prefer open, others will prefer core. There is no right or wrong answer here.
Our whole guild is going core for one reason:
More defined and goal oriented endplay. IE rvr.
If you don't understand that, I am glad you are not joining core.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
But .. but .. when playing on an Open server and traveling back to a lower tier, will you be a chicken regardless of being in a rvr area AND regardless of being in your own races zone? That would be awful. Not so much because of having no option to gank lower lvl'd players but because of unfinished pve business.
I surely hope Mythic will reconsider if this is the case. Open PvP should mean open pvp, just devise a way to prevent higher leveled players from influencing the lower tier battles.(Only chicken in the rvr area's like on Core and flagged but not chickened outside of those).
Yes, that means ganking. But we rolled Open PvP in the first place and we expect to be ganked occasionally, (and get our rocks off from excitement in between).
I remember from my WOW days being in Hillsbrad for the first time and seeing a 'skulled' Tauren warrior looking for little gnomes like me to feed on. It was a great challenge to try and kill a few hordelings around my own level while that 'monster' was out and about. Great fun, to be honoust. Skillfully avoiding a fight you really can't win is more fun to me than to fight a fight which you can't lose. (How's that for a quote?)
Chicken is fine with me in RvR zones but outside of those; open should be open, whatever ugly things might happen. For me, and probably most Open players, the threat of higher leveled players brings excitement to the game.
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Yes, if you outlevel a tier and go back you will be chickenized that includes everywhere you go in that their. Even on the core servers if you are rank 14 and flag yourself the second you zone into tier 1 you become a chicken. The same will happen on an open server except you don't have the choice to unflag yourself. Like I said in a previous post, the open servers were more of an afterthought by Mythic. That is why the rules sound so unrefined.
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You wouldn't understand
Aye and per Mark's comment (which was his best and most short response ever)...
Will you ever take away chicken mode from open servers or even core?
His response....
"NO"
Guess that says it all.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
*sobs*
Thanks for the answers though. I haven't heard about Open pvp RP servers either so I think I will settle for an RP Core server instead. Untill Open becomes open and RP, that is. If never, then never ...
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Bolster has been tried and tested on CoX. the results are dissappointing and the trolling is accurate.
X"Do you have ressurect yet?"
Y"No"
X"Oh shit"
--
Note: PlayNC will refuse to allow you access to your account if you forget your password and can't provide a scanned image of the product key for the first product you purchased..... LOL
With the open rule set everything is considered an RvR zone. This is why returning to get tome unlocks will be borderline impossible.
I would say for this reason alone, I will likely be playing core. I want to be able to experience all of the game. I dont want to have to roll another character to see the other races' lower tiers. I also agree with the OP, sometimes I just want to be able to farm/quest/whatever in peace and not have to deal with some idiot waiting until I am at low health then running up to kill me. Also there is still the option of turning on your RvR flag and giving yourself an even greater challenge because everyone else gets to attack you first. I played on a PvE server in WoW, and my friend and I did this all the time and usually it would turn out to be a lot of fun. There is also the OP's point that if you want to PvP, you might as well be in the RvR area helping the war effort than dicking around.
bolster doesn't work that way in WAR. it doesn't physically change your level, it just gives you a buff that increases stats.
the trolling is not accurate, most of the trolls seemed to think that it actually changes your levels, it doesn't. and because skills scale with your level (you don't learn new levels of the same skill, like fireball 1 2 3 or 4) a level 2's main heal will be just as powerful as a level 8s with bolster.
Bolster works very well. It makes RvR more fun on both sides. Its boring fighting level 2s but anyone who plays WoW knows that level 21s will come into WSG. its better to boost them to 28 than assume they will simply stop coming to WSG. this way my team members aren't completely gimp, and neither are my enemies.
So the trolls need to learn how the game actually works before commenting on this topic, without an understanding of the mechanic. all your stats and skills will upgrade as if you are higher, you won't learn any new skills but your current ones will be on par with those of the other players in the RvR lake or scenario. people will still see your normal level, higher level players will still "con" as much higher than you and thus read as "deadly" or "hopeless he is too high" but you won't get 2shotted.
I was very into open from the moment they said they were going to include them, I've always loved that type of PvP due to my time in Lineage2 when the whole world was like that. but looking at it now, core is going to be a lot more focused, with less ganking, and more options for people at the low end of a tier.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.