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All Hat, No Cattle

FratmanFratman Member Posts: 344

Something smells fishy. If Darkfall is so great and it's the mmorpg everyone has been waiting for, why the lack of information? Where's the in-depth explanation of how crafting and adventuring work?? Where's the youtube video of a person playing so we can see the UI and see how smooth the combat looks during real gameplay?

The video that was just released a few days ago tells us nothing. Any clown can turn the UI off, jack up the graphics on his high end PC and record some pretty 3rd person video in game.  And I don't care that the devs said the video was recorded on medium graphical settings. I don't buy it.  Besides, it wasn't really impressive anyway. There were quite a few choppy and dated looking scenes. I imagine those are more along the lines of what the game will actually end up playing like if it ever sees the light of day.

Here is a video of Fallen Earth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpIGqUJ9kfQ&feature=related  The game just started alpha and already I know more about it in 5 minutes of watching this video than I ever learned about Darkfall in my hours of scouring the internets for real info. Where is the equivalent video from the Darkfall devs? What are they hiding? 

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  • argos5argos5 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.

     

    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!

     

    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

    Then don't worry about it, you don't have to play, we got it.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • bluealien1bluealien1 Member Posts: 526
    Originally posted by argos5


    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.
     
    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!
     
    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

    You mean realistic people will say vaporware.

    Aventurine is full of shit, the teaser was trash, and I'm still thoroughly convinced this game will never release.

  • 0muffins00muffins0 Member Posts: 136
    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by argos5


    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.
     
    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!
     
    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

    You mean realistic people will say vaporware.

    You mean people who have cried 'vaporware' for so long that it's become a force of habit that they just can't break?

    Aventurine is full of shit,

    They've never lied.

    the teaser was trash,

    If it was 'trash' then why have 30,000 people signed up to the Darkfall forums since the video released last Friday? 30,000  people seem to disagree with you.

    and I'm still thoroughly convinced this game will never release.

    Why would they not release the game? That's silly.

     

  • Tyres100Tyres100 Member Posts: 704

    All hat no cattle? I heard of All beef no cattle before. Anyway your correct for them not showing the UI or other aspects of the game people wanted to see like crafting etc. I think at least for darkfall this was a huge step in the right direction to show us they actually had something. Maybe they will add another video soon.

    Who let you in the VIP section?

  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by argos5


    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.
     
    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!
     
    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

    You mean realistic people will say vaporware.

    Aventurine is full of shit, the teaser was trash, and I'm still thoroughly convinced this game will never release.

    Tell that to their European publisher, I think they'd like to know. REALISTIC PEOPLE would say the game is coming out, they just don't know in what manner of quality. You're just a troll.

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558

    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by argos5


    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.
     
    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!
     
    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

    You mean realistic people will say vaporware.

    Aventurine is full of shit, the teaser was trash, and I'm still thoroughly convinced this game will never release.



     

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by argos5


    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.
     
    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!
     
    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

    You mean realistic people will say vaporware.

    Aventurine is full of shit, the teaser was trash, and I'm still thoroughly convinced this game will never release.

    Tell that to their European publisher, I think they'd like to know. REALISTIC PEOPLE would say the game is coming out, they just don't know in what manner of quality. You're just a troll.

     

    Aww how cute, a DF fanboi...

    I'm sure you'll all be ingame and playing very, very soon!

    (lol)

    Beta will also start this year, just like last year, and the year before that!



     

    beta did start end of last year just it wasnt public

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by argos5


    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.
     
    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!
     
    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

    You mean realistic people will say vaporware.

    Aventurine is full of shit, the teaser was trash, and I'm still thoroughly convinced this game will never release.

    Tell that to their European publisher, I think they'd like to know. REALISTIC PEOPLE would say the game is coming out, they just don't know in what manner of quality. You're just a troll.

     

    Aww how cute, a DF fanboi...

    I'm sure you'll all be ingame and playing very, very soon!

    (lol)

    Beta will also start this year, just like last year, and the year before that!



     

    beta did start end of last year just it wasnt public



     

    and yet I havent seen a heard of a single person in the so called "beta"

  • zonzaizonzai Member Posts: 358

    Fanboys are almost as annoying as haters. 

    Give a game a shot befcore you decide that it's good or bad.  Of course, it won't be anything like Age of Conan. It's not like they haven't had enough time to make a complete game or anything.

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    How come people care SO much??  How is it possible to not just lean back and wait?

    There must be thousands of other things to do while waitng. Ohh wait! Many that come here are not even wating for DF? Thats wierd.  And still they are very keen to give us a "professional analysis" of Aventurine and Darkfalls development.

    Aventurine is a even smaller Indie developer then Icarus (Fallen Earth), and they have to work in their way. Maybe thay will pull it of, maybe they wont. Everyone knows that.

    And about the video, i think the OP knows you dont have a UI when you play. If you need it you puch RMB to see the UI....and then you remove it gain.

    But seriously, there were so much information in that video. If anyone looks at it..they will see most features. Aventurine is famous for not rubbing information in the face. As the finishing move at the end of the video. They dont make a big fuzz about it.

    And that says alot : )

     

  • 0muffins00muffins0 Member Posts: 136
    Originally posted by daarco


    How come people care SO much??  How is it possible to not just lean back and wait?
    There must be thousands of other things to do while waitng. Ohh wait! Many that come here are not even wating for DF? Thats wierd.  And still they are very keen to give us a "professional analysis" of Aventurine and Darkfalls development.
    Aventurine is a even smaller Indie developer then Icarus (Fallen Earth), and they have to work in their way. Maybe thay will pull it of, maybe they wont. Everyone knows that.
    And about the video, i think the OP knows you dont have a UI when you play. If you need it you puch RMB to see the UI....and then you remove it gain.
    But seriously, there were so much information in that video. If anyone looks at it..they will see most features. Aventurine is famous for not rubbing information in the face. As the finishing move at the end of the video. They dont make a big fuzz about it.
    And that says alot : )
     

     

    That video showed an awlful lot of things in-game that we didn't know previously. Those siege warhulks were a complete surprise. Horned horse type mount things. Those flying glass discs. That tree climbing spell. Most of those dramatic locations. Any other developer would have been screaming about all that stuff years before the beta.

    But then other developers have a PR department

  • VagelispVagelisp Member UncommonPosts: 448
    Originally posted by Fratman


    Something smells fishy. If Darkfall is so great and it's the mmorpg everyone has been waiting for, why the lack of information? Where's the in-depth explanation of how crafting and adventuring work?? Where's the youtube video of a person playing so we can see the UI and see how smooth the combat looks during real gameplay?
    The video that was just released a few days ago tells us nothing. Any clown can turn the UI off, jack up the graphics on his high end PC and record some pretty 3rd person video in game.  And I don't care that the devs said the video was recorded on medium graphical settings. I don't buy it.  Besides, it wasn't really impressive anyway. There were quite a few choppy and dated looking scenes. I imagine those are more along the lines of what the game will actually end up playing like if it ever sees the light of day.
    Here is a video of Fallen Earth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpIGqUJ9kfQ&feature=related  The game just started alpha and already I know more about it in 5 minutes of watching this video than I ever learned about Darkfall in my hours of scouring the internets for real info. Where is the equivalent video from the Darkfall devs? What are they hiding? 

    No thank you, i will not buy that "Interface" show off again. I' ve seen a lot of interfaces, features  and devs smiling in front of cameras in the last 8 years. A shiny boring interface's demonstration is the last thing i would ever expect from Aventurine. At least they showed players interacting in their video. 

    Fallen earth's video is just a demo of "features" that have been done again and again in the last mmorpgs. You may prefer to interact with Interfaces, i prefer to interact with people and that's what Aventurine proved.

    P.S: In the first part of the Fallen Earth's video shows NPCs floating while sitting down. Please tell them to fix that before release.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by argos5


    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.
     
    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!
     
    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

    You mean realistic people will say vaporware.

    Aventurine is full of shit, the teaser was trash, and I'm still thoroughly convinced this game will never release.

    Tell that to their European publisher, I think they'd like to know. REALISTIC PEOPLE would say the game is coming out, they just don't know in what manner of quality. You're just a troll.

     

    Aww how cute, a DF fanboi...

    I'm sure you'll all be ingame and playing very, very soon!

    (lol)

    Beta will also start this year, just like last year, and the year before that!



     

    beta did start end of last year just it wasnt public

     

    More bs...

    You people will believe whatever Aventurine tells you.

    How do you know beta started? Brannoc told you? Tasos told you? Yeah, what they say doesn't happen often at all.

     



     

    ROFL.

    Aventurine havent lied to us before so why should they start with it now?

     

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by argos5


    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.
     
    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!
     
    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

    You mean realistic people will say vaporware.

    Aventurine is full of shit, the teaser was trash, and I'm still thoroughly convinced this game will never release.

    Tell that to their European publisher, I think they'd like to know. REALISTIC PEOPLE would say the game is coming out, they just don't know in what manner of quality. You're just a troll.

     

    Aww how cute, a DF fanboi...

    I'm sure you'll all be ingame and playing very, very soon!

    (lol)

    Beta will also start this year, just like last year, and the year before that!



     

    beta did start end of last year just it wasnt public



     

    and yet I havent seen a heard of a single person in the so called "beta"



     

    Did you expect that from professional beta testers? =)

     

  • javacjavac Member Posts: 1,175

    So you made this post because you're too lazy to read the 260+ typed pages of released DF information?

     

    There is TONS more info released for DF than FE, you just have to read it instead of having explained to you like a 2 year-old.

     

    qq

  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by argos5


    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.
     
    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!
     
    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

    You mean realistic people will say vaporware.

    Aventurine is full of shit, the teaser was trash, and I'm still thoroughly convinced this game will never release.

    Tell that to their European publisher, I think they'd like to know. REALISTIC PEOPLE would say the game is coming out, they just don't know in what manner of quality. You're just a troll.

     

    Aww how cute, a DF fanboi...

    I'm sure you'll all be ingame and playing very, very soon!

    (lol)

    Beta will also start this year, just like last year, and the year before that!

    Hmmm, beta wasn't announced last year other than the internal date...which was made. And it wasn't promised the year before that either... Your argument seems to be made of air. Here's from the publisher site.



    Ikona Ihos S.A. Signs Exclusive Distribution Agreement With Aventurine S.A.

    Friday, 27 Jun 2008 06:32am EDT

    Ikona Ihos S.A. announced that it has signed an agreement with Aventurine S.A. for the exclusive distribution of on line gaming products within the territory of Europe.

     

    And here's the nail on the coffin. http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=64036&highlight=publishing+beta+october

     

    Really, I thought you guys were extinct, vaportrolls?

     

     

  • javacjavac Member Posts: 1,175
    Originally posted by zymurgeist

    Originally posted by javac


    So you made this post because you're too lazy to read the 260+ typed pages of released DF information?
     
    There is TONS more info released for DF than FE, you just have to read it instead of having explained to you like a 2 year-old.
     
    qq



     

    Who in their right mind would sit down and read 260 pages of mostly repetitive information scattered among 5000 pages of complete drivel? Seriously. People need a five to fifteen page synopsis. Of facts  not speculations.

     

    They're written by the developers of the game, so they ARE facts...

     

    And there ARE synopses, they're linked in the sticky on the front page of this forum. Alternatively, there's the wikipedia article.

    If people aren't intelligent enough to be able to find and read even these short summaries, they should be going back to secondary school, not posting on MMO forums.

  • javacjavac Member Posts: 1,175
    Originally posted by SignusM

    Really, I thought you guys were extinct, vaportrolls?

     

    Vaportrolling is dead, there's only failtrolls and regular trolls now.

  • sandboxysandboxy Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by argos5


    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.
     
    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!
     
    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

    You mean realistic people will say vaporware.

    Aventurine is full of shit, the teaser was trash, and I'm still thoroughly convinced this game will never release.



     

    You wouldn't fail quite as hard if you didn't have Mortal Online link in your sig.

  • TdogSkalTdogSkal Member UncommonPosts: 1,244

    What do you not understand?  The developers gave us fans exactly what we asked for.

    On the main forums for Darkfall the fans asked for a gameplay video showing large PvP battles, Ship battles and siege battles. 

    Large PvP battle - Check

    Ship Battles - Check

    Siege Battles - Check

    The Developers gave us even more then the fans asked for.  How often do Developers deliver exactly what their Community asked for?

    Sooner or Later

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    I would like to see a dancing female elf......to view the ..ehh....graphics better.

  • MuggyDMuggyD Member UncommonPosts: 8

    It looks good - I like the idea of a modern FFA PvP game with full loot and FPS style combat. I'm sure it will need to be graphically reduced to cope with that stress. I can cope with that. I cant wait. If they fail to deliver they will be in great company with AoC, Warhammer (Lite version) and countless others that promised new and innovative and deliver cookie cutter repackaged wow clones.

  • snipergsniperg Member Posts: 863

    In my opinion they didn't show the details such as UI or how adventuring etc works cause frankly most gamers don't care>.>

    Many people among them me also, wanted to see combat, big sieges and naval battles. You know the cool stuff of the game.

    The UI and the more practical stuff are to be left for when they launch their beta and they have to explain their system to the players. For now the fact that they hype us is enough.

    A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.

  • IsaneIsane Member UncommonPosts: 2,630
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by bluealien1

    Originally posted by argos5


    Darkfall fans will cry out: It takes time, be patient---- read the dev blog, etc etc. As though they made Darkfall themselves.
     
    Darkfall trolls will shout: VAPORWARE!
     
    I will say: They're not very experienced at any of this. They aren't refined in business model or execution. They aim big... but have no helping hand to pull them along. They're missing a lot of things and just as I mentioned in another thread---- players are tired of the same chet in all other MMOs and are chasing the ideal because they're starving--- as one Darkfall fan admitted: They're clinging to the idea.

    You mean realistic people will say vaporware.

    Aventurine is full of shit, the teaser was trash, and I'm still thoroughly convinced this game will never release.

    Tell that to their European publisher, I think they'd like to know. REALISTIC PEOPLE would say the game is coming out, they just don't know in what manner of quality. You're just a troll.

     

    Aww how cute, a DF fanboi...

    I'm sure you'll all be ingame and playing very, very soon!

    (lol)

    Beta will also start this year, just like last year, and the year before that!



     

    beta did start end of last year just it wasnt public



     

    and yet I havent seen a heard of a single person in the so called "beta"

    Closed Beta, professionallly paid maybe they rate their job.

     

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