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ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

Can we get some moderation in this forum please? The trolling/flaming/bashing is way out of control, never seen anything this horrid.

Thanks.

"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

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  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

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  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821
    Originally posted by Zekiah


    Can we get some moderation in this forum please? The trolling/flaming/bashing is way out of control, never seen anything this horrid.
    Thanks.

     

    Actually compared to what it was a few weeks ago this is quite civil. The best thing you can do is if you see someone breaking the RoC report them and don't reply by flaming them as that will just get you warned or banned as well. Make sure you give a well thought out reason for the report as well as this will get the mods attention faster then just, "OMG, THIS GUY IS A TROLL, BAN PLZ!!!!". The Mods are actually doing a much better job in this section recently than they have in the past. Remember that the report function is your friend so don't be afraid to use it. It's your best weapon in the ongoing war against the nasty flamers and trolls.

     

    Bren

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    beat();
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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Originally posted by Zekiah


    Can we get some moderation in this forum please? The trolling/flaming/bashing is way out of control, never seen anything this horrid.
    Thanks.



     

    If they explain why they think a game sucks, it cannot be locked according to the Rules of Conduct. Just gotta live with it.

    If they start flaming people or the game without giving an explanation why they think the game sucks then you can /report it

    Game Attacks

    Unsubstantiated comments about specific or general games will be penalized in nearly the same way attacks against people will. The exception is that you can say mean things about games provided you back it up with reasons.

    Example: "Game X sucks." is not a legitimate comment. "Game X sucks, because..." is acceptable
    .

    When I was a moderator here and if I saw someone freaking out because another person was bashing a game they liked, I always ignored the report. However, if the person who /reported the post had a valid reason (i.e., the offensive post just slammed the  game without reason why such as "this game is a piece of shit" then it can get locked.). But the /report will always get ignored unless the offensive poster does not give reason why they think the game sucks.

    Also, they can /report if they spam somehting over and over and over. And unfortunately, 14 different users starting a thread of why they think a game is vaporware, etc is not spam. Spam means when the same user post the same rehtoric over and over and over.

    Take a look at Age of Conan section as an example. TONS of peope posting that they hate the game. The reaosn why 95% of em aren't locked is because they give reason why they dont like it.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

    If people don't start following these rules, I'm going to start reporting them. I'm tired of the lies, slander, and continual trolling that is not allowing people interested in Darkfall to hold civil discussions.

    So stop the trolling, bashing, flaming, and stay out unless you can follow the rules.

     

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Originally posted by Zekiah


    If people don't start following these rules, I'm going to start reporting them. I'm tired of the lies, slander, and continual trolling that is not allowing people interested in Darkfall to hold civil discussions.
    So stop the trolling, bashing, flaming, and stay out unless you can follow the rules.
     

    aye, thats exacty what I am talking about. Many people that you are upset at ARE following those rules. Take a look at my previous post. It explains exactly why you dont see as many posts as  you may want to be closed and locked.

    Remember, this isnt the official forums where negative posts will get locked. People at mmorpg.com has always had the freedom to slam a game as long as they give their reason why. The reason may not even have to factual or true but they have to provide a reason.

    For example if some one posts:

    Darkfall is shit. Always has been always will be

    Then that is reportable and can be locked.

    If someone says:

    Darkfall is shit. The game has been in development since 2001 and its always changing their dates and I cannot trust the developers more than I can trust my ex girlfriend.

    That above post cannot be /reported as the user adhered to the RoC (that link you just posted). Hope that helps.

     

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by Zekiah


    If people don't start following these rules, I'm going to start reporting them. I'm tired of the lies, slander, and continual trolling that is not allowing people interested in Darkfall to hold civil discussions.
    So stop the trolling, bashing, flaming, and stay out unless you can follow the rules.
     



     

    Technically fanobis and trolls are no different in when it comes to zealotry about this game.

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by Enigma

    Originally posted by Zekiah


    If people don't start following these rules, I'm going to start reporting them. I'm tired of the lies, slander, and continual trolling that is not allowing people interested in Darkfall to hold civil discussions.
    So stop the trolling, bashing, flaming, and stay out unless you can follow the rules.
     

    aye, thats exacty what I am talking about. Many people that you are upset at ARE following those rules. Take a look at my previous post. It explains exactly why you dont see as many posts as  you may want to be closed and locked.

    I did read your post and I know the rules, thanks.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Enigma

    Originally posted by Zekiah


    If people don't start following these rules, I'm going to start reporting them. I'm tired of the lies, slander, and continual trolling that is not allowing people interested in Darkfall to hold civil discussions.
    So stop the trolling, bashing, flaming, and stay out unless you can follow the rules.
     

    aye, thats exacty what I am talking about. Many people that you are upset at ARE following those rules. Take a look at my previous post. It explains exactly why you dont see as many posts as  you may want to be closed and locked.

    I did read your post and I know the rules, thanks.

    Good. Then you know the mods wont be able to do the things you want them to do then

    Glad I could help

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Enigma

    Originally posted by Zekiah


    If people don't start following these rules, I'm going to start reporting them. I'm tired of the lies, slander, and continual trolling that is not allowing people interested in Darkfall to hold civil discussions.
    So stop the trolling, bashing, flaming, and stay out unless you can follow the rules.
     

    aye, thats exacty what I am talking about. Many people that you are upset at ARE following those rules. Take a look at my previous post. It explains exactly why you dont see as many posts as  you may want to be closed and locked.

    I did read your post and I know the rules, thanks.



     

    Just because you dont like other peoples opinion about your "pet" game, doesnt mean you have the right to shut people up. They have the same rights to hate it as you do to love it.

    I can already tell you are on some sort of quest here, but I assure you, tattling on the other kids because youre mad wont work.

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Enigma

    Originally posted by Zekiah


    If people don't start following these rules, I'm going to start reporting them. I'm tired of the lies, slander, and continual trolling that is not allowing people interested in Darkfall to hold civil discussions.
    So stop the trolling, bashing, flaming, and stay out unless you can follow the rules.
     

    aye, thats exacty what I am talking about. Many people that you are upset at ARE following those rules. Take a look at my previous post. It explains exactly why you dont see as many posts as  you may want to be closed and locked.

    I did read your post and I know the rules, thanks.



     

    Just because you dont like other peoples opinion about your "pet" game, doesnt mean you have the right to shut people up. They have the same rights to hate it as you do to love it.

    I can already tell you are on some sort of quest here, but I assure you, tattling on the other kids because youre mad wont work.

    I don't care what people say as long as they follow the rules and a lot of people are not following the rules. I have no quest other than to have civil discussions without people coming in with trolling, lies, flaming, and taking threads off topic.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    But in all seriousness, OP, if you really get bothered by the criticisms that people say about this game, the official forums may be a better place for you.

    It isnt a bad thing that I am saying. You just may feel more comfortable there.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431

    Originally posted by Enigma


    But in all seriousness, OP, if you really get bothered by the criticisms that people say about this game, the official forums may be a better place for you.
    It isnt a bad thing that I am saying. You just may feel more comfortable there.



     

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by Enigma


    But in all seriousness, OP, if you really get bothered by the criticisms that people say about this game, the official forums may be a better place for you.
    It isnt a bad thing that I am saying. You just may feel more comfortable there.

    It has nothing to do with criticisms, it has to do with flaming, trolling, lying, and getting off topic. Thanks for the suggestion though.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Enigma


    But in all seriousness, OP, if you really get bothered by the criticisms that people say about this game, the official forums may be a better place for you.
    It isnt a bad thing that I am saying. You just may feel more comfortable there.

    It has nothing to do with criticisms, it has to do with flaming, trolling, lying, and getting off topic. Thanks for the suggestion though.



     

    You wont stop it, its like if you get sick at the smell of fish, you avoid the pier. 

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Enigma


    But in all seriousness, OP, if you really get bothered by the criticisms that people say about this game, the official forums may be a better place for you.
    It isnt a bad thing that I am saying. You just may feel more comfortable there.

    It has nothing to do with criticisms, it has to do with flaming, trolling, lying, and getting off topic. Thanks for the suggestion though.



     

    You wont stop it, its like if you get sick at the smell of fish, you avoid the pier. 

    There are rules and if they're broken I'm going to report the post, after that it's out of my hands.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Enigma


    But in all seriousness, OP, if you really get bothered by the criticisms that people say about this game, the official forums may be a better place for you.
    It isnt a bad thing that I am saying. You just may feel more comfortable there.

    It has nothing to do with criticisms, it has to do with flaming, trolling, lying, and getting off topic. Thanks for the suggestion though.



     

    You wont stop it, its like if you get sick at the smell of fish, you avoid the pier. 

    There are rules and if they're broken I'm going to report the post, after that it's out of my hands.

    Still wont work, you'll spend your time trying to get people in trouble and the mods are usually pretty lenient about bans. You'll find yourself wasting a lot of your time for no reason.

    In fact most of the time, if you inquire politely, theyll lift just about any ban. Thats not to say theyll let you get away with murder. But theyre not out there playing forum Gestapo either.

     

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Enigma


    But in all seriousness, OP, if you really get bothered by the criticisms that people say about this game, the official forums may be a better place for you.
    It isnt a bad thing that I am saying. You just may feel more comfortable there.

    It has nothing to do with criticisms, it has to do with flaming, trolling, lying, and getting off topic. Thanks for the suggestion though.



     

    You wont stop it, its like if you get sick at the smell of fish, you avoid the pier. 

    There are rules and if they're broken I'm going to report the post, after that it's out of my hands.

    Still wont work, you'll spend your time trying to get people in trouble and the mods are usually pretty lenient about bans. You'll find yourself wasting a lot of your time for no reason.

     

    Yeah well what do you care what I do with my time? The Darkfall forum is already pretty much a waste of time with all the trolling and flaming so what's the difference? I'd rather try and help clean things up for people who want to discuss civilly on both sides than just give up.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Enigma


    But in all seriousness, OP, if you really get bothered by the criticisms that people say about this game, the official forums may be a better place for you.
    It isnt a bad thing that I am saying. You just may feel more comfortable there.

    It has nothing to do with criticisms, it has to do with flaming, trolling, lying, and getting off topic. Thanks for the suggestion though.



     

    You wont stop it, its like if you get sick at the smell of fish, you avoid the pier. 

    There are rules and if they're broken I'm going to report the post, after that it's out of my hands.

    Still wont work, you'll spend your time trying to get people in trouble and the mods are usually pretty lenient about bans. You'll find yourself wasting a lot of your time for no reason.

     

    Yeah well what do you care what I do with my time? The Darkfall forum is already pretty much a waste of time with all the trolling and flaming so what's the difference? I'd rather try and help clean things up for people who want to discuss civilly on both sides than just give up.



     

    Well either way thats some wicked karma, your motivation seems to lie within the bounds of vengeance, as opposed to doing it because its right. Kinda creepy if you ask me.

    Then again Darkfall has some strange members in its cult.

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Enigma


    But in all seriousness, OP, if you really get bothered by the criticisms that people say about this game, the official forums may be a better place for you.
    It isnt a bad thing that I am saying. You just may feel more comfortable there.

    It has nothing to do with criticisms, it has to do with flaming, trolling, lying, and getting off topic. Thanks for the suggestion though.



     

    You wont stop it, its like if you get sick at the smell of fish, you avoid the pier. 

    There are rules and if they're broken I'm going to report the post, after that it's out of my hands.

    Still wont work, you'll spend your time trying to get people in trouble and the mods are usually pretty lenient about bans. You'll find yourself wasting a lot of your time for no reason.

     

    Yeah well what do you care what I do with my time? The Darkfall forum is already pretty much a waste of time with all the trolling and flaming so what's the difference? I'd rather try and help clean things up for people who want to discuss civilly on both sides than just give up.



     

    Well either way thats some wicked karma, your motivation seems to lie within the bounds of vengeance, as opposed to doing it because its right. Kinda creepy if you ask me.

    Then again Darkfall has some strange members in its cult.

    Nice. Exactly why I created the thread in the first place.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Enigma


    But in all seriousness, OP, if you really get bothered by the criticisms that people say about this game, the official forums may be a better place for you.
    It isnt a bad thing that I am saying. You just may feel more comfortable there.

    It has nothing to do with criticisms, it has to do with flaming, trolling, lying, and getting off topic. Thanks for the suggestion though.



     

    You wont stop it, its like if you get sick at the smell of fish, you avoid the pier. 

    There are rules and if they're broken I'm going to report the post, after that it's out of my hands.

    Still wont work, you'll spend your time trying to get people in trouble and the mods are usually pretty lenient about bans. You'll find yourself wasting a lot of your time for no reason.

     

    Yeah well what do you care what I do with my time? The Darkfall forum is already pretty much a waste of time with all the trolling and flaming so what's the difference? I'd rather try and help clean things up for people who want to discuss civilly on both sides than just give up.



     

    Well either way thats some wicked karma, your motivation seems to lie within the bounds of vengeance, as opposed to doing it because its right. Kinda creepy if you ask me.

    Then again Darkfall has some strange members in its cult.

    Nice. Exactly why I created the thread in the first place.

    Well then I suppose Ill be the first step on your way to the ban crusade. Lets see how it goes shall we?

     

  • imbantimbant Member Posts: 1,291

    The trolling has been a lot better lately.

    But in our Q&A thread youll see some clear cut trolling.

    The thread is simple...are you new and have a question?  ask it and we will help. 

    It is not a discussion thread, nor an opinion one, unless it is about the questions being asked.  And yet you stil have people saying "i cant wait to see what kind of pile this game is in on release"

    Pretty straight forward if you ask me.

    ~~
    Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009

    Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296

    "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester

    "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by imbant


    The trolling has been a lot better lately.
    But in our Q&A thread youll see some clear cut trolling.
    The thread is simple...are you new and have a question?  ask it and we will help. 
    It is not a discussion thread, nor an opinion one, unless it is about the questions being asked.  And yet you stil have people saying "i cant wait to see what kind of pile this game is in on release"
    Pretty straight forward if you ask me.

    Well I suppose to put one in the win column for the trolls, they generally dont say you shouldnt be entitled to an opinion because it differs from yours.

     

    Though I suddenly just had a vision of Chris Crockers "Leave Britney Alone" video......

  • imbantimbant Member Posts: 1,291

    actually all 3? of the troll posts in that thread were all removed.  so thank you mods.

    Hopefully we can keep it civil over there.  If anything the people who troll there will be easily labeled because if you post anything but a question, answer, or debate about the accuracy of the answer....it is a troll.

    { Mod Edit }

    zekiah

    ~~
    Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009

    Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296

    "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester

    "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by imbant


    actually all 3? of the troll posts in that thread were all removed.  so thank you mods.
    Hopefully we can keep it civil over there.  If anything the people who troll there will be easily labeled because if you post anything but a question, answer, or debate about the accuracy of the answer....it is a troll.
    { Mod Edit }
    zekiah

    I'm having a difficult keeping up with all the trolling, haven't seen it. It would be nice to have some decent Q&A sessions though, I've enjoyed what little chance we've had.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Enigma


    But in all seriousness, OP, if you really get bothered by the criticisms that people say about this game, the official forums may be a better place for you.
    It isnt a bad thing that I am saying. You just may feel more comfortable there.

    It has nothing to do with criticisms, it has to do with flaming, trolling, lying, and getting off topic. Thanks for the suggestion though.



     

    You wont stop it, its like if you get sick at the smell of fish, you avoid the pier. 

    There are rules and if they're broken I'm going to report the post, after that it's out of my hands.

    Still wont work, you'll spend your time trying to get people in trouble and the mods are usually pretty lenient about bans. You'll find yourself wasting a lot of your time for no reason.

     

    Yeah well what do you care what I do with my time? The Darkfall forum is already pretty much a waste of time with all the trolling and flaming so what's the difference? I'd rather try and help clean things up for people who want to discuss civilly on both sides than just give up.



     

    Well either way thats some wicked karma, your motivation seems to lie within the bounds of vengeance, as opposed to doing it because its right. Kinda creepy if you ask me.

    Then again Darkfall has some strange members in its cult.

    There is nothing wrong with someone wanting to help clean up the flaming and trolling in this or any forum for that matter. As long as what he is reporting is indeed that, flaming or trolling. The mods on this site have also gotten a lot more strict as of late as well. What you're saying about them may have been true a year ago but it's changed in the last few months. Nowhere has he stated that he wants to report people for stating negative viewpoints as long as they are posted within the rules as defined by the RoC. If everyone loved Darkfall this forum would be a pretty boring place to discuss the game. He just feels that the discussions should remain somewhat civil and with that I agree. Trolls and flamers hide on both sides of the fence in this section, both fanboi and hater and they should be treated equally.

     

    Bren

    while(horse==dead)
    {
    beat();
    }

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