WoW has 70 levels, not 60. That's 30 levels more than WAR.
In WAR characters achieve 120 levels total, 40 in pve and 80 in pvp. But I freely admit that levels are irrelevant and "time to max level" is most important. AoC has 80 levels and my first toon got to 80 in 9 /played days. First time doing so in WoW took 15 played days, and second time through on my mage it took 10.
WoW has 70 levels, not 60. That's 30 levels more than WAR.
In WAR characters achieve 120 levels total, 40 in pve and 80 in pvp. But I freely admit that levels are irrelevant and "time to max level" is most important. AoC has 80 levels and my first toon got to 80 in 9 /played days. First time doing so in WoW took 15 played days, and second time through on my mage it took 10.
Yes, I know this. I read the entire thread.
The 80 PvP levels won't be too big a deal TBH, as long as the population is relatively high and stable, and people are active in RvR. It is just like the PvE grind, except you have to kill other players.
The only difference between the two is that MOBs are always there, but players can be in short supply.
DAoC is a good example of that, because it uses a relatively similar system (Levels and Realm Ranks).
Nothing in Warhammer is all that new, in regards to character progression, except you have to raid less for gear because they have LOLRENOWN vendors.
I'm not sure how viable twinking is in this game, cause I've never really tried to go out and PvE or anything for gear drops, but if it becomes viable than that will literally kill the low level BGs and turn new players away after the game has been up for a while. Levels and gear are always king in these types of games and once a player gets to level 40 with a low Renown rank they will get their asses handed to them in RvR similar to DAoC due to level/gear advantages. I hope there is nothing akin to "templates" in this game... Those are so brokenly overpowered in DAoC...
There will be very little end-game DAoC PvE and if it would be anything like the current PvE then I wouldn't want it anyway. I suspect they will simply extend RvR lvls (make them need +50% more xp) when they realise people are banging them out too fast.
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This is just wierd.... uhm... I think it takes extremely longer time in this game to level then in any of the other mmo's i've played the last couple of years... But the good thing about it is that although you are very low level you can participate in pvp and PQ's and that stuff and I think thats great. Kinda sucks with games where you have to grind 0-80 then you can raid and pvp lol...
In Conan I PL'd chars 0-50 in 24hours now THATS easy leveling
Originally posted by Protus-AOC
Its really sad that after so many years in development they could barely get 40 levels worth of content in. AOC has 80 levels so already a big strike against WAR.
HAHAHAHA What the hell man? are you a silly billy? As i wrote above you could do 0-50 in 24 hours AND after you hit about 47 the game practicaly had no content? oh yeah thats something to brag about aint it?
Its really sad that after so many years in development they could barely get 40 levels worth of content in. AOC has 80 levels so already a big strike against WAR.
How ironic, an AoC fanboy calling out a game for having lack of content.
Age of conan could have 300 levels, it would still be crap as 290 of them would be spent grinding villas.
It will take less than a week for people to hit max level. I don't know if that's bad, it's different.
Once again you are misinformed. They made leveling significantly slower from PW to OB. I doubt we will see max levels until two weeks or so. They will also have a harder time leveling due to lack of scenarios/rvr fights to level off of if they go to fast.
Also different? People hit max in WoW faster than any MMO ever, besides the glitchers in AoC.
Level 30 in like 3-4 days? Well my highest is 13 but i messed about with all the classes.... dunno how fast you level higher up, but there is games where you level alot faster, and still the pvp max level is 80 aint it? so it's kinda like guild wars except twice the level cap + pvp levels and sieges and I had a blast with guild wars and know many people are too. And I wouldnt be shocked if they raised the cap as the game went on. I'd much more prefer 40 solid levels then 40 levels of mediocre stuff + 40 crappy contentlacking grindgrindgrind stuff
Its really sad that after so many years in development they could barely get 40 levels worth of content in. AOC has 80 levels so already a big strike against WAR.
Seriously Protus I am biting my tongue in order to keep from getting banned for calling you what you are. That has to be your dumbest comment ever. And THAT is astrike against you given your level 80 fanboy skill with an additional +20 to dumb
A retarded monkey could see that the people at WAR have put much more thought into things than FC is even capable of doing. Hell look at the basic functions and notice how AOC couldnt even get a damn mini-map correct at launch. They had to patch it in the first two weeks because they didnt even understand how bad it was until people started complaining.
Famine is >>>>>>>>>> that way. Go take a swing on his danglies if you get Avery to give up his spot.
Less than a week to hit 40? Sure if you're playing it 24/7, and even then it's hard to level in the early hours coz nobody is around. I played for 22 hours and am rank 13 at the moment, the leveling seems to be slowing down as well.
I'm sure you will get some sad gits that will hit 40 in a week and then moan.
Its really sad that after so many years in development they could barely get 40 levels worth of content in. AOC has 80 levels so already a big strike against WAR.
Its really sad that after so many years in development they could barely get 40 levels worth of content in. AOC has 80 levels so already a big strike against WAR.
Pure troll-magic that!
Assuming of course that you were joking, if you weren't - you really are a shortbus contender....
Actually.. it is way too easy to level.. if this game had 50-or 60 levels, that wouldn't be as big of a problem.. but I've seen players hit 20 in only 2-3 days. That's half of the content in the game. I bet we'll see several 35+ people by the 25th of September. Unless Mythic allows you to stop xp and twink characters, even the most casual gamers will out rank the lower zones and they will become nothing but a ghost town.
I'm rank 10 and I've played about 10-12 hours (cant remember).. some people will put in an easy 30-35 hours in the first two days.. and that's with the motivation that the servers won't be wiped again. I enjoyed my breif open beta, so I hope things turn out a little differently than I expect.
I am sure there will be people that hit max level in a few days but the average player will take a few weeks. SInce there is a lack of content between the levels of 16-20 and 31-36 it will seem like it takes longer to most people. The truth will be seen soon and with the exception of AOC it will join the bargin bin at walmart with the other MMO's from the last few years.
I am sure there will be people that hit max level in a few days but the average player will take a few weeks. SInce there is a lack of content between the levels of 16-20 and 31-36 it will seem like it takes longer to most people. The truth will be seen soon and with the exception of AOC it will join the bargin bin at walmart with the other MMO's from the last few years.
The only reason AOC won't be in the bargain bin is because that game is going the way of Auto Assault.
The fact that you compare lack of content to AoC shows just how blind you are since the majority of complaints about the game at release was the incredible lack of content from level 45+. Heh, even you were bitching on the boards about how Funcom is not living up to expectations. Flip floppin is fun ehh?
Ohh, but you can always grind the same 5 Villas over and over till you reach max level...that's right. I take it back...tons of content in AoC. (/endsarcasm)
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In WAR characters achieve 120 levels total, 40 in pve and 80 in pvp. But I freely admit that levels are irrelevant and "time to max level" is most important. AoC has 80 levels and my first toon got to 80 in 9 /played days. First time doing so in WoW took 15 played days, and second time through on my mage it took 10.
The 80 PvP levels won't be too big a deal TBH, as long as the population is relatively high and stable, and people are active in RvR. It is just like the PvE grind, except you have to kill other players.
The only difference between the two is that MOBs are always there, but players can be in short supply.
DAoC is a good example of that, because it uses a relatively similar system (Levels and Realm Ranks).
Nothing in Warhammer is all that new, in regards to character progression, except you have to raid less for gear because they have LOLRENOWN vendors.
I'm not sure how viable twinking is in this game, cause I've never really tried to go out and PvE or anything for gear drops, but if it becomes viable than that will literally kill the low level BGs and turn new players away after the game has been up for a while. Levels and gear are always king in these types of games and once a player gets to level 40 with a low Renown rank they will get their asses handed to them in RvR similar to DAoC due to level/gear advantages. I hope there is nothing akin to "templates" in this game... Those are so brokenly overpowered in DAoC...
There will be very little end-game DAoC PvE and if it would be anything like the current PvE then I wouldn't want it anyway. I suspect they will simply extend RvR lvls (make them need +50% more xp) when they realise people are banging them out too fast.
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Note: PlayNC will refuse to allow you access to your account if you forget your password and can't provide a scanned image of the product key for the first product you purchased..... LOL
This is just wierd.... uhm... I think it takes extremely longer time in this game to level then in any of the other mmo's i've played the last couple of years... But the good thing about it is that although you are very low level you can participate in pvp and PQ's and that stuff and I think thats great. Kinda sucks with games where you have to grind 0-80 then you can raid and pvp lol...
In Conan I PL'd chars 0-50 in 24hours now THATS easy leveling
Originally posted by Protus-AOC
Its really sad that after so many years in development they could barely get 40 levels worth of content in. AOC has 80 levels so already a big strike against WAR.
HAHAHAHA What the hell man? are you a silly billy? As i wrote above you could do 0-50 in 24 hours AND after you hit about 47 the game practicaly had no content? oh yeah thats something to brag about aint it?
How ironic, an AoC fanboy calling out a game for having lack of content.
Age of conan could have 300 levels, it would still be crap as 290 of them would be spent grinding villas.
Age of Conan in the Villa ugh.... bad memories of farming there
It will take less than a week for people to hit max level.
I don't know if that's bad, it's different.
Well if you dont have school or a job then maybe we'll see, but i doubt you will hit max pvp level in a week that fast
Well if you dont have school or a job then maybe we'll see, but i doubt you will hit max pvp level in a week that fast
I am willing to bet that there will be people into their 30s before the game officially launches.
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Once again you are misinformed. They made leveling significantly slower from PW to OB. I doubt we will see max levels until two weeks or so. They will also have a harder time leveling due to lack of scenarios/rvr fights to level off of if they go to fast.
Also different? People hit max in WoW faster than any MMO ever, besides the glitchers in AoC.
Level 30 in like 3-4 days? Well my highest is 13 but i messed about with all the classes.... dunno how fast you level higher up, but there is games where you level alot faster, and still the pvp max level is 80 aint it? so it's kinda like guild wars except twice the level cap + pvp levels and sieges
and I had a blast with guild wars and know many people are too. And I wouldnt be shocked if they raised the cap as the game went on. I'd much more prefer 40 solid levels then 40 levels of mediocre stuff + 40 crappy contentlacking grindgrindgrind stuff
Seriously Protus I am biting my tongue in order to keep from getting banned for calling you what you are. That has to be your dumbest comment ever. And THAT is astrike against you given your level 80 fanboy skill with an additional +20 to dumb
A retarded monkey could see that the people at WAR have put much more thought into things than FC is even capable of doing. Hell look at the basic functions and notice how AOC couldnt even get a damn mini-map correct at launch. They had to patch it in the first two weeks because they didnt even understand how bad it was until people started complaining.
Famine is >>>>>>>>>> that way. Go take a swing on his danglies if you get Avery to give up his spot.
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Even Protus doesn't take himself seriously anymore. It's clear he is still doing this for amusement sake.
Less than a week to hit 40? Sure if you're playing it 24/7, and even then it's hard to level in the early hours coz nobody is around. I played for 22 hours and am rank 13 at the moment, the leveling seems to be slowing down as well.
I'm sure you will get some sad gits that will hit 40 in a week and then moan.
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Pure troll-magic that!
Assuming of course that you were joking, if you weren't - you really are a shortbus contender....
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Actually.. it is way too easy to level.. if this game had 50-or 60 levels, that wouldn't be as big of a problem.. but I've seen players hit 20 in only 2-3 days. That's half of the content in the game. I bet we'll see several 35+ people by the 25th of September. Unless Mythic allows you to stop xp and twink characters, even the most casual gamers will out rank the lower zones and they will become nothing but a ghost town.
I'm rank 10 and I've played about 10-12 hours (cant remember).. some people will put in an easy 30-35 hours in the first two days.. and that's with the motivation that the servers won't be wiped again. I enjoyed my breif open beta, so I hope things turn out a little differently than I expect.
I am sure there will be people that hit max level in a few days but the average player will take a few weeks. SInce there is a lack of content between the levels of 16-20 and 31-36 it will seem like it takes longer to most people. The truth will be seen soon and with the exception of AOC it will join the bargin bin at walmart with the other MMO's from the last few years.
The only reason AOC won't be in the bargain bin is because that game is going the way of Auto Assault.
The fact that you compare lack of content to AoC shows just how blind you are since the majority of complaints about the game at release was the incredible lack of content from level 45+. Heh, even you were bitching on the boards about how Funcom is not living up to expectations. Flip floppin is fun ehh?
Ohh, but you can always grind the same 5 Villas over and over till you reach max level...that's right. I take it back...tons of content in AoC. (/endsarcasm)