Truly detestable. I really hope his cellmates "treat" him properly>.>
I agree w/ ya. And nice way of putting it btw.
But yes, I have to say that scum like him aren't dead for what they did. He doesn't deserve to live, even in prison. Its people like him who are killing all the pretty girls and leaving the ugly ones for the good people.
Just saying it is hard for me to comprehend that you are against the death penalty but you are for necrophelia, cannabilism, and beastiality. I mean, come one.....you have to see the "irony" in all of this.
Just like my last post here stated lol.
I don't see the irony either. How are social topics like Necrophelia, Cannabilism and beastiality comparable to punishments for crime such as the death penalty?
They are very different things that have little to do with each other.
of course you dont. You were into cannibalism, incest, and necrophilia lol. Usually when people are into those sorta things, those people will not be able to see the irony. Your post: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2292738#2292738
I have to ask, did you actually read that thread first before you brought it up?
I am not into cannibalism, incest, necrophillia, drugs,prostitution or any of the other things I have said yes to. It's important to pay attention to the word "consentual", the word Wisebutcruel apparently also overlooked, so no, I don't think anybody should go around raping your grandmas corpse and I find it hard to believe cactus would suggest otherwise.
The difference between you and me is that i feel absolutely no desire to enforce MY personal values and morals onto other people. I find cannibalism,necrophillia and prostitution just as disgusting as you do, that doesn't mean that OTHER people aren't allowed to do it. Just like I'm no supporter of drugs or gambling but again, there is no reason why other people shouldn't be allowed to do it just because I feel uncomfortable around it.
I still value this little thing called freedom, a word that is clearly lost on certain people here.
Oh, and just for the record, I'm in favor of the death penalty. I just thought that the connection you made was silly.
The difference between you and me is that i feel absolutely no desire to enforce MY personal values and morals onto other people.
You think that those things are bothwrong and right for other people to do. Okay
I myself personally wouldn't do any of those things, but why should other people be restricted in what they can or cannot do just because of my personal view on those subjects?
Are you going to tell what other people can or can not do? Are you going to tell me what I should have for dinner next?
Originally posted by Gameloading I myself personally wouldn't do any of those things, but why should other people be restricted in what they can or cannot do just because of my personal view on those subjects?
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
___________________ Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
Originally posted by Gameloading I myself personally wouldn't do any of those things, but why should other people be restricted in what they can or cannot do just because of my personal view on those subjects?
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
The death penalty is efficient. I'll say that. It allows you to kill them, end their evil, and forget about them whilst they lay rotting beneath six feet of dirt.
But I have a problem with our death penalty for one reason.
It is SO DAMN EXPENSIVE!
Enough with all this legal BS. If they're found guilty, take them out in a field, put one 9mm hollow point bullet to their head. Put them in a oak box, and bury them.
It's simple, efficient, and it's cheap.
If you have a problem with blatantly killing them. Then turn them into slaves. Work them until they die. Make them spent 16+ hours out in hard labor, working them to the bone. This whole put them in a cell and let them rot is insane and serves nothing.
In fact, I think all prisons should be work camps. With the most evil in them being worked to death.
I have no mercy for the sick individuals of our era, they lost their right to humanity, they have become lower than animals, and thus, should be treated as such.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
Originally posted by Gameloading I myself personally wouldn't do any of those things, but why should other people be restricted in what they can or cannot do just because of my personal view on those subjects?
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
I remember this case when it was presented in the news. This guy should get a bullet in the back of the head. It's crazy to waste taxpayer money by housing this animal in prison and wasting court time on appeals.
Originally posted by Gameloading I myself personally wouldn't do any of those things, but why should other people be restricted in what they can or cannot do just because of my personal view on those subjects?
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
I not only support the death penalty for people like this person but say in some cases it's too lenient. I say let the death fit the crime. If someone basically tortures someone to death like this sick bastard did make his death just as horrific. This 'humane' death penelty for people like this guy is just too good for them. Let them feel all of the pain, fear and emotional distress they put their victims through. That is justice not just putting them down humanely. Make the punishment truly fit the crime. Just make sure before you give this kind of sentence there is no doubt the person is guilty like in this case. Sorry if this seems kinda barbaric to some of you but it isn't as barbaric as what he did to that poor innocent girl.
I propose we make them all gladiators. So they can fight to death with each other and the goverment can sell the tickets. See? Both the death penalty AND the expenses are covered^^
We can have a special prize also that the guy that survives all the deathmatches, to have a life sentence instead but that can be optional.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
Originally posted by Gameloading I myself personally wouldn't do any of those things, but why should other people be restricted in what they can or cannot do just because of my personal view on those subjects?
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
And how does a corpse ( necrophilia ) consent and make an informed decision? Dumbass.
And you talk about noone should be able to say "you can do this" or "you can't do that", but yet you just said necrophilia is okay with consent LOL, but child molestation is not because consent would be invalid. So what you're really saying is the sick shit you can stand is okay, but the sick shit you can't is not.
I know you're trying to worm out of this, but face it. You pwned yourself. I just gave you the space to do it in.
Originally posted by Gameloading I myself personally wouldn't do any of those things, but why should other people be restricted in what they can or cannot do just because of my personal view on those subjects?
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
And how does a corpse ( necrophilia ) consent and make an informed decision? Dumbass.
And you talk about noone should be able to say "you can do this" or "you can't do that", but yet you just said necrophilia is okay with consent LOL, but child molestation is not because consent would be invalid. So what you're really saying is the sick shit you can stand is okay, but the sick shit you can't is not.
I know you're trying to worm out of this, but face it. You pwned yourself. I just gave you the space to do it in.
Do you even read your own post and THINK before you hit the post message button?
How does a corpose consent and make an informed decision? They don't obviously, it would have to be agreed upon before death, similar to requests like burial or cremation or donation of organs. Was it really that difficult for you to figure this out?
Child Molestation is not okay because a child is in no position to make a decision like that, which is different from necrophilia as it is among adults. Is it really that difficult for your tiny brain to grasp?
Please, do me a favor and stop posting your garbage, you clearly don't think things through before you post and you're making my IQ drop.
Originally posted by Gameloading I myself personally wouldn't do any of those things, but why should other people be restricted in what they can or cannot do just because of my personal view on those subjects?
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
And how does a corpse ( necrophilia ) consent and make an informed decision? Dumbass.
And you talk about noone should be able to say "you can do this" or "you can't do that", but yet you just said necrophilia is okay with consent LOL, but child molestation is not because consent would be invalid. So what you're really saying is the sick shit you can stand is okay, but the sick shit you can't is not.
I know you're trying to worm out of this, but face it. You pwned yourself. I just gave you the space to do it in.
Do you even read your own post and THINK before you hit the post message button?
How does a corpose consent and make an informed decision? They don't obviously, it would have to be agreed upon before death, similar to requests like burial or cremation or donation of organs. Was it really that difficult for you to figure this out?
Child Molestation is not okay because a child is in no position to make a decision like that, which is different from necrophilia as it is among adults. Is it really that difficult for your tiny brain to grasp?
Please, do me a favor and stop posting your garbage, you clearly don't think things through before you post and you're making my IQ drop.
In the U.S. court system, a CHILD of 12 years old is considered of appropriate age to be able to make decisions of their own in regards to their own welfare.
The age of consent, by law, is 16. However, the legal age of consent does not apply to this argument, as you have said consent depends upon the childs' ability to make decisions.
Now that that little blocker is removed from your defense, next?
Originally posted by Gameloading I myself personally wouldn't do any of those things, but why should other people be restricted in what they can or cannot do just because of my personal view on those subjects?
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
And how does a corpse ( necrophilia ) consent and make an informed decision? Dumbass.
And you talk about noone should be able to say "you can do this" or "you can't do that", but yet you just said necrophilia is okay with consent LOL, but child molestation is not because consent would be invalid. So what you're really saying is the sick shit you can stand is okay, but the sick shit you can't is not.
I know you're trying to worm out of this, but face it. You pwned yourself. I just gave you the space to do it in.
Do you even read your own post and THINK before you hit the post message button?
How does a corpose consent and make an informed decision? They don't obviously, it would have to be agreed upon before death, similar to requests like burial or cremation or donation of organs. Was it really that difficult for you to figure this out?
Child Molestation is not okay because a child is in no position to make a decision like that, which is different from necrophilia as it is among adults. Is it really that difficult for your tiny brain to grasp?
Please, do me a favor and stop posting your garbage, you clearly don't think things through before you post and you're making my IQ drop.
In the U.S. court system, a CHILD of 12 years old is considered of appropriate age to be able to make decisions of their own in regards to their own welfare.
The age of consent, by law, is 16. However, the legal age of consent does not apply to this argument, as you have said consent depends upon the childs' ability to make decisions.
Now that that little blocker is removed from your defense, next?
The childs ability to make its own decision is in general related to its age. If the age of consent is 16, then from that period on most teenagers are able to make more responsible decisions and thus should be allowed to have sex with older people if they so chose to. If the average teenager is not able to make responsible decisions regarding that subject then it is the age of consent that is the issue.
Your whole argument fell flat on its face the moment you started it by comparing it to something completely different.
Originally posted by Gameloading I myself personally wouldn't do any of those things, but why should other people be restricted in what they can or cannot do just because of my personal view on those subjects?
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
And how does a corpse ( necrophilia ) consent and make an informed decision? Dumbass.
And you talk about noone should be able to say "you can do this" or "you can't do that", but yet you just said necrophilia is okay with consent LOL, but child molestation is not because consent would be invalid. So what you're really saying is the sick shit you can stand is okay, but the sick shit you can't is not.
I know you're trying to worm out of this, but face it. You pwned yourself. I just gave you the space to do it in.
Do you even read your own post and THINK before you hit the post message button?
How does a corpose consent and make an informed decision? They don't obviously, it would have to be agreed upon before death, similar to requests like burial or cremation or donation of organs. Was it really that difficult for you to figure this out?
Child Molestation is not okay because a child is in no position to make a decision like that, which is different from necrophilia as it is among adults. Is it really that difficult for your tiny brain to grasp?
Please, do me a favor and stop posting your garbage, you clearly don't think things through before you post and you're making my IQ drop.
In the U.S. court system, a CHILD of 12 years old is considered of appropriate age to be able to make decisions of their own in regards to their own welfare.
The age of consent, by law, is 16. However, the legal age of consent does not apply to this argument, as you have said consent depends upon the childs' ability to make decisions.
Now that that little blocker is removed from your defense, next?
The childs ability to make its own decision is in general related to its age. If the age of consent is 16, then from that period on most teenagers are able to make more responsible decisions and thus should be allowed to have sex with older people if they so chose to. If the average teenager is not able to make responsible decisions regarding that subject then it is the age of consent that is the issue.
Your whole argument fell flat on its face the moment you started it by comparing it to something completely different.
Tell ya what: let's let the audience decide. I'm in a democratic mood.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right? Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right? "Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll." "Okay, Daddy." LOOK!! It was "concensual"!! Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
Well, Gameloading.
You support people sleeping with corpses, people eating other people, and father mothers sleeping with their sons and daughters (or vice versa)
Now, tell us why in the world should we look at you in light of morality and common sense.
I mean this in the most humane way as possible when I say this. But I don't think anyone can carry out a morale argument with you. You are like in so left field no one can understand you (except for maybe some deep South American Tribes or Dr Hannibal Lecter. Your positions are so "politcally correct" they surpass the realm of reason and sanity.
"its ok if I sleep with my dead wife because she said it was ok and no one should be able to trample on my rights to sleep with the dead" "its ok if I can eat my best friend as long as he says its ok"
But then you essentially say this
"no one has the right to take another person's life even if that person raped and murdered an innocent person"
Do you see why people are just kinda freaked out about you and your statements? (thats a rhetorical question because in your eyes you really see no harm in what you believe in)
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
So we get to pay for this asshole's meals for the rest of his life?
What a wonderful deal: Kill and brutally rape a teenager, then spend the rest of your life in confinement. Capital punishment works. Look at Singapore where their homicide rate is literally less than 1/10th of ours. If we were to adopt the old school punishments commensurate to the crimes, then we'd be seeing a lot less of this and would be saving millions of dollars as we would no longer have to feed murderers and rapists.
We have nothing against putting an animal to sleep for biting a person, but when a person kills another for the sheer sadistic satisfaction of it and proves to be more of a burden he's still left with his rights. I really can't say that America is entirely to blame either, since most European countries have the same pussified view.
There are enough humans on the planet and I don't see the need to preserve the lives of those that prove that they are nothing, but a detriment; the resources used to keep the person alive could be better spent i.e. helping a disabled person.
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Well Enigma, Gameloading didn't say he was against the death penalty I did.
And you can't really argue morals they are relative, well you can but much like arguing over music, you may have many reasons for why you like one kind of the other but they are very much subjective and cannot be proven correct. Morality is not reason based it is emotion based and only exists inside an individuals head.
Just because something seems bad to you and many others agree does not make you correct , it just means that you hold the same opinion as others.
So that is why moral arguements do not work because I, and probably Gameloading, do not have the same morals as you, so what is common sense to you, like banning canniblism, is wrong to me. Doesn't make me right, doesn't make you right.
Don't you worry little buddy. You're dealing with a man of honor. However, honor requires a higher percentage of profit
So that is why moral arguements do not work because I, and probably Gameloading, do not have the same morals as you, so what is common sense to you, like banning canniblism, is wrong to me. Doesn't make me right, doesn't make you right.
Well it partially has nothing to do with morals. I am a very amoral person and against cannibalism, but obviously not because of the moral ramifications:
The problem with cannibalism is that it could actually create an epidemic if widely practiced, since certain proteins in the human body are viral in nature as they actually increase further production/transformation into the structure and are virtually indestructible (temps upwards of 1000C).
The disease I am referring to is Jakob Creutzfeldt's, which is a neurological ailment that literally destroys the brain and is caused by a protein that is found in all humans that has changed shape due to different exposures. This protein in it's malignant form transforms other healthy proteins into the same form and so creates a sort of chain reaction.
When it's introduced into the food supply, it litreally spreads exponentially and has actually been known to decimate cultures that practice cannibalism, since the protein is so resilient that even mummified/petrified/cremated remains could still spread it.
As for incest:
I don't have anything against an incestuous relationship that does NOT produce offspring, however, incest with the purpose of procreation (or with procreation as a sideeffect) is detrimental to the genepool and is associated with greater probability of the offspring having severe mental disorders.
So.... some things are really beyond moral values.
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I agree w/ ya. And nice way of putting it btw.
But yes, I have to say that scum like him aren't dead for what they did. He doesn't deserve to live, even in prison. Its people like him who are killing all the pretty girls and leaving the ugly ones for the good people.
Just saying it is hard for me to comprehend that you are against the death penalty but you are for necrophelia, cannabilism, and beastiality. I mean, come one.....you have to see the "irony" in all of this.
Just like my last post here stated lol.
I don't see the irony either. How are social topics like Necrophelia, Cannabilism and beastiality comparable to punishments for crime such as the death penalty?
They are very different things that have little to do with each other.
of course you dont. You were into cannibalism, incest, and necrophilia lol. Usually when people are into those sorta things, those people will not be able to see the irony. Your post: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2292738#2292738
I have to ask, did you actually read that thread first before you brought it up?
I am not into cannibalism, incest, necrophillia, drugs,prostitution or any of the other things I have said yes to. It's important to pay attention to the word "consentual", the word Wisebutcruel apparently also overlooked, so no, I don't think anybody should go around raping your grandmas corpse and I find it hard to believe cactus would suggest otherwise.
The difference between you and me is that i feel absolutely no desire to enforce MY personal values and morals onto other people. I find cannibalism,necrophillia and prostitution just as disgusting as you do, that doesn't mean that OTHER people aren't allowed to do it. Just like I'm no supporter of drugs or gambling but again, there is no reason why other people shouldn't be allowed to do it just because I feel uncomfortable around it.
I still value this little thing called freedom, a word that is clearly lost on certain people here.
Oh, and just for the record, I'm in favor of the death penalty. I just thought that the connection you made was silly.
You think that those things are both wrong and right for other people to do. Okay
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You think that those things are both wrong and right for other people to do. Okay
I myself personally wouldn't do any of those things, but why should other people be restricted in what they can or cannot do just because of my personal view on those subjects?
Are you going to tell what other people can or can not do? Are you going to tell me what I should have for dinner next?
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
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http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/13/
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
The death penalty is efficient. I'll say that. It allows you to kill them, end their evil, and forget about them whilst they lay rotting beneath six feet of dirt.
But I have a problem with our death penalty for one reason.
It is SO DAMN EXPENSIVE!
Enough with all this legal BS. If they're found guilty, take them out in a field, put one 9mm hollow point bullet to their head. Put them in a oak box, and bury them.
It's simple, efficient, and it's cheap.
If you have a problem with blatantly killing them. Then turn them into slaves. Work them until they die. Make them spent 16+ hours out in hard labor, working them to the bone. This whole put them in a cell and let them rot is insane and serves nothing.
In fact, I think all prisons should be work camps. With the most evil in them being worked to death.
I have no mercy for the sick individuals of our era, they lost their right to humanity, they have become lower than animals, and thus, should be treated as such.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
I remember this case when it was presented in the news. This guy should get a bullet in the back of the head. It's crazy to waste taxpayer money by housing this animal in prison and wasting court time on appeals.
This punk should be hung by the neck until dead.
That is all.
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
I not only support the death penalty for people like this person but say in some cases it's too lenient. I say let the death fit the crime. If someone basically tortures someone to death like this sick bastard did make his death just as horrific. This 'humane' death penelty for people like this guy is just too good for them. Let them feel all of the pain, fear and emotional distress they put their victims through. That is justice not just putting them down humanely. Make the punishment truly fit the crime. Just make sure before you give this kind of sentence there is no doubt the person is guilty like in this case. Sorry if this seems kinda barbaric to some of you but it isn't as barbaric as what he did to that poor innocent girl.
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I propose we make them all gladiators. So they can fight to death with each other and the goverment can sell the tickets. See? Both the death penalty AND the expenses are covered^^
We can have a special prize also that the guy that survives all the deathmatches, to have a life sentence instead but that can be optional.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
And how does a corpse ( necrophilia ) consent and make an informed decision? Dumbass.
And you talk about noone should be able to say "you can do this" or "you can't do that", but yet you just said necrophilia is okay with consent LOL, but child molestation is not because consent would be invalid. So what you're really saying is the sick shit you can stand is okay, but the sick shit you can't is not.
I know you're trying to worm out of this, but face it. You pwned yourself. I just gave you the space to do it in.
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
And how does a corpse ( necrophilia ) consent and make an informed decision? Dumbass.
And you talk about noone should be able to say "you can do this" or "you can't do that", but yet you just said necrophilia is okay with consent LOL, but child molestation is not because consent would be invalid. So what you're really saying is the sick shit you can stand is okay, but the sick shit you can't is not.
I know you're trying to worm out of this, but face it. You pwned yourself. I just gave you the space to do it in.
Do you even read your own post and THINK before you hit the post message button?
How does a corpose consent and make an informed decision? They don't obviously, it would have to be agreed upon before death, similar to requests like burial or cremation or donation of organs. Was it really that difficult for you to figure this out?
Child Molestation is not okay because a child is in no position to make a decision like that, which is different from necrophilia as it is among adults. Is it really that difficult for your tiny brain to grasp?
Please, do me a favor and stop posting your garbage, you clearly don't think things through before you post and you're making my IQ drop.
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
And how does a corpse ( necrophilia ) consent and make an informed decision? Dumbass.
And you talk about noone should be able to say "you can do this" or "you can't do that", but yet you just said necrophilia is okay with consent LOL, but child molestation is not because consent would be invalid. So what you're really saying is the sick shit you can stand is okay, but the sick shit you can't is not.
I know you're trying to worm out of this, but face it. You pwned yourself. I just gave you the space to do it in.
Do you even read your own post and THINK before you hit the post message button?
How does a corpose consent and make an informed decision? They don't obviously, it would have to be agreed upon before death, similar to requests like burial or cremation or donation of organs. Was it really that difficult for you to figure this out?
Child Molestation is not okay because a child is in no position to make a decision like that, which is different from necrophilia as it is among adults. Is it really that difficult for your tiny brain to grasp?
Please, do me a favor and stop posting your garbage, you clearly don't think things through before you post and you're making my IQ drop.
In the U.S. court system, a CHILD of 12 years old is considered of appropriate age to be able to make decisions of their own in regards to their own welfare.
The age of consent, by law, is 16. However, the legal age of consent does not apply to this argument, as you have said consent depends upon the childs' ability to make decisions.
Now that that little blocker is removed from your defense, next?
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
And how does a corpse ( necrophilia ) consent and make an informed decision? Dumbass.
And you talk about noone should be able to say "you can do this" or "you can't do that", but yet you just said necrophilia is okay with consent LOL, but child molestation is not because consent would be invalid. So what you're really saying is the sick shit you can stand is okay, but the sick shit you can't is not.
I know you're trying to worm out of this, but face it. You pwned yourself. I just gave you the space to do it in.
Do you even read your own post and THINK before you hit the post message button?
How does a corpose consent and make an informed decision? They don't obviously, it would have to be agreed upon before death, similar to requests like burial or cremation or donation of organs. Was it really that difficult for you to figure this out?
Child Molestation is not okay because a child is in no position to make a decision like that, which is different from necrophilia as it is among adults. Is it really that difficult for your tiny brain to grasp?
Please, do me a favor and stop posting your garbage, you clearly don't think things through before you post and you're making my IQ drop.
In the U.S. court system, a CHILD of 12 years old is considered of appropriate age to be able to make decisions of their own in regards to their own welfare.
The age of consent, by law, is 16. However, the legal age of consent does not apply to this argument, as you have said consent depends upon the childs' ability to make decisions.
Now that that little blocker is removed from your defense, next?
The childs ability to make its own decision is in general related to its age. If the age of consent is 16, then from that period on most teenagers are able to make more responsible decisions and thus should be allowed to have sex with older people if they so chose to. If the average teenager is not able to make responsible decisions regarding that subject then it is the age of consent that is the issue.
Your whole argument fell flat on its face the moment you started it by comparing it to something completely different.
Gameloading I want you to stick with me here, this can get really deep.
I have on this table here a Scrying Orb. I am waving my hands over it, asking the spirits to lend me their wisdom that I may answer your profound question.
...
Yes I see something, feel something...
I think I know what they are trying to say now. They are saying that the answer can be found within any of the reasons why people rather frown on those activities, like necrophilia, and those reasons are good enough.
P.S - I think it is obvious at this point that you have no problem whatsoever with any of the things you listed. You say those things are disgusting and wrong, but you need us to tell you just what is disgusting and wrong about it? Yeah, no.
You're missing the point completely. It may come as a major surprise to you, but some people are different then you. yes, shocking, I know. There are people who live their lives different then you do, have different morals, different values and different customs.
Just who do you think you are to say what those people can or can not do when it has no effect on you in any way or form? It's the exact same reason why things like gay marriage are such taboo in nations such as the United State. The land of the free but only if you happen to share the same morals and values as its leaders.
I don't need you to tell me what i find disgusting about it, but that is not even relevant to the point.
Do I have a problem with any of the things I listed? Well in most cases I want nothing to do with those kind of people, but if you're asking if I think those things should be made illegal and against the law, the answer is No.
So in your view child molestation should not be illegal then, right? Just because I think someone who has sex with children is a fucking worthless scumbag, doesn't mean I have the right to tell him he can't do those things, right?
Oh, yes. "Concensual" was the word you used, right?
"Honey, if you let Daddy play with you in a special way, I'll buy you a pretty pony doll."
"Okay, Daddy."
LOOK!! It was "concensual"!!
Just stop while you're ahead, you're making me fucking sick.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
And how does a corpse ( necrophilia ) consent and make an informed decision? Dumbass.
And you talk about noone should be able to say "you can do this" or "you can't do that", but yet you just said necrophilia is okay with consent LOL, but child molestation is not because consent would be invalid. So what you're really saying is the sick shit you can stand is okay, but the sick shit you can't is not.
I know you're trying to worm out of this, but face it. You pwned yourself. I just gave you the space to do it in.
Do you even read your own post and THINK before you hit the post message button?
How does a corpose consent and make an informed decision? They don't obviously, it would have to be agreed upon before death, similar to requests like burial or cremation or donation of organs. Was it really that difficult for you to figure this out?
Child Molestation is not okay because a child is in no position to make a decision like that, which is different from necrophilia as it is among adults. Is it really that difficult for your tiny brain to grasp?
Please, do me a favor and stop posting your garbage, you clearly don't think things through before you post and you're making my IQ drop.
In the U.S. court system, a CHILD of 12 years old is considered of appropriate age to be able to make decisions of their own in regards to their own welfare.
The age of consent, by law, is 16. However, the legal age of consent does not apply to this argument, as you have said consent depends upon the childs' ability to make decisions.
Now that that little blocker is removed from your defense, next?
The childs ability to make its own decision is in general related to its age. If the age of consent is 16, then from that period on most teenagers are able to make more responsible decisions and thus should be allowed to have sex with older people if they so chose to. If the average teenager is not able to make responsible decisions regarding that subject then it is the age of consent that is the issue.
Your whole argument fell flat on its face the moment you started it by comparing it to something completely different.
Tell ya what: let's let the audience decide. I'm in a democratic mood.
Do I really need to go over and point out the differences by the things I mentioned and child molestation? Is it really that difficult to figure out for yourself that a child is unable to make sexual decisions like that and thus is a valid argument to make child molestation illegal?
Do you seriously believe I would support child molestation? Dumbass.
Well, Gameloading.
You support people sleeping with corpses, people eating other people, and father mothers sleeping with their sons and daughters (or vice versa)
Now, tell us why in the world should we look at you in light of morality and common sense.
I mean this in the most humane way as possible when I say this. But I don't think anyone can carry out a morale argument with you. You are like in so left field no one can understand you (except for maybe some deep South American Tribes or Dr Hannibal Lecter. Your positions are so "politcally correct" they surpass the realm of reason and sanity.
"its ok if I sleep with my dead wife because she said it was ok and no one should be able to trample on my rights to sleep with the dead" "its ok if I can eat my best friend as long as he says its ok"
But then you essentially say this
"no one has the right to take another person's life even if that person raped and murdered an innocent person"
Do you see why people are just kinda freaked out about you and your statements? (thats a rhetorical question because in your eyes you really see no harm in what you believe in)
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
So we get to pay for this asshole's meals for the rest of his life?
What a wonderful deal: Kill and brutally rape a teenager, then spend the rest of your life in confinement. Capital punishment works. Look at Singapore where their homicide rate is literally less than 1/10th of ours. If we were to adopt the old school punishments commensurate to the crimes, then we'd be seeing a lot less of this and would be saving millions of dollars as we would no longer have to feed murderers and rapists.
We have nothing against putting an animal to sleep for biting a person, but when a person kills another for the sheer sadistic satisfaction of it and proves to be more of a burden he's still left with his rights. I really can't say that America is entirely to blame either, since most European countries have the same pussified view.
There are enough humans on the planet and I don't see the need to preserve the lives of those that prove that they are nothing, but a detriment; the resources used to keep the person alive could be better spent i.e. helping a disabled person.
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A cannibalistic necrophiliac, means he likes to play with his food first ?
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
He chases firetrucks so he can get his meals pre-cooked.
Well Enigma, Gameloading didn't say he was against the death penalty I did.
And you can't really argue morals they are relative, well you can but much like arguing over music, you may have many reasons for why you like one kind of the other but they are very much subjective and cannot be proven correct. Morality is not reason based it is emotion based and only exists inside an individuals head.
Just because something seems bad to you and many others agree does not make you correct , it just means that you hold the same opinion as others.
So that is why moral arguements do not work because I, and probably Gameloading, do not have the same morals as you, so what is common sense to you, like banning canniblism, is wrong to me. Doesn't make me right, doesn't make you right.
Don't you worry little buddy. You're dealing with a man of honor. However, honor requires a higher percentage of profit
Yet another stunning comment.
Morality is based on reason.
Edit: To elaborate a tiny bit, there are several reasons why things such as prostitution and incest are looked down upon and outlawed.
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Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
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Well it partially has nothing to do with morals. I am a very amoral person and against cannibalism, but obviously not because of the moral ramifications:
The problem with cannibalism is that it could actually create an epidemic if widely practiced, since certain proteins in the human body are viral in nature as they actually increase further production/transformation into the structure and are virtually indestructible (temps upwards of 1000C).
The disease I am referring to is Jakob Creutzfeldt's, which is a neurological ailment that literally destroys the brain and is caused by a protein that is found in all humans that has changed shape due to different exposures. This protein in it's malignant form transforms other healthy proteins into the same form and so creates a sort of chain reaction.
When it's introduced into the food supply, it litreally spreads exponentially and has actually been known to decimate cultures that practice cannibalism, since the protein is so resilient that even mummified/petrified/cremated remains could still spread it.
As for incest:
I don't have anything against an incestuous relationship that does NOT produce offspring, however, incest with the purpose of procreation (or with procreation as a sideeffect) is detrimental to the genepool and is associated with greater probability of the offspring having severe mental disorders.
So.... some things are really beyond moral values.
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