Well prepared to be busted. I can say with some certianty that the hate Bioware feels for not only the SWG Vets, but the whole Sandbox concept runs pretty deep...Think of Anikin at the Tuskin camp, without the remorse later.
No sandbox, No Pre Cu, Pre NGE or anything similar....and look for a big ol perma ban for any vet that dares open their mouths on the forum.
Why would you think Bioware hates SWG vets and the concept of "sandbox"?
I may just be ill-informed, but I never heard about this.
Now I have heard that a lot of SWG vets were begging Bioware to do a Star Wars Online game, but nothing about Bioware hatin on us...
they don't hate us. nge fanbois just spread that crap around because they all short stroke anything involving glowbats. however lucas arts is involved and giving them a playerbase is like giving a pistol to a chimp.
SWG Pre-CU was a great idea, and probably sounded great on paper. In practice, it didn't pan out the way one would hope for a number of reasons which I won't get into here.
Personally, I like the idea of a Sandbox game - but I don't necessarily think a Star Wars MMO HAS to be one. Just because SWG was originally conceived as a Sandbox, doesn't mean there isn't room for a different kind of SWG. That being said, the NGE might have been truely remarkable had they just spent the time to develop it more. Of course, much could be said the same about Pre-CU.
The only real hopes I have for a new Star Wars MMO is that they just treat it with some respect, instead of a wanna-be cash cow, like SOE turned SWG into. Don't start making a bunch of content for the game that makes no sense. Keep it within a reasonable restraint of the actual Lore and Era for that matter. Combat doesn't have to be so overwhelmingly complex as long as it is fun, works, and makes sense. Offer a substantial reason to play something besides a Jedi, and for that matter, offer other classes besides Jedi.
People will play the game for no other reason than it is Star Wars. All you have to do is make a product that works and runs well.... that's all you have to do. You can add the groundbreaking stuff later. But all you need is to offer a game that doesn't completely bug out, and doesn't completely disrespect Star Wars Lore. I don't really think that is too much to ask for.
Well prepared to be busted. I can say with some certianty that the hate Bioware feels for not only the SWG Vets, but the whole Sandbox concept runs pretty deep...Think of Anikin at the Tuskin camp, without the remorse later.
No sandbox, No Pre Cu, Pre NGE or anything similar....and look for a big ol perma ban for any vet that dares open their mouths on the forum.
Why would you think Bioware hates SWG vets and the concept of "sandbox"?
I may just be ill-informed, but I never heard about this.
Now I have heard that a lot of SWG vets were begging Bioware to do a Star Wars Online game, but nothing about Bioware hatin on us...
I very much doubt BioWare hates SWG Vets and/or Sandboxes. However I am pretty sure that BioWare will not make a Sandbox game. That is simply not their style. BioWare is known for story-driven games and they are excellent at Storytelling.
What I hope for a BioWare SW game, something that is not in other MMO's, is an alignment system where your choices actually matter and influence your character growth and a preferably ongoing, well-told story. That's what I am hoping for anyway.
Since I featured the KOTORO on more then one Rodo Report ( Which by the way can only be seen by my friends on MySpace until a sunset date for The NGE is announced ).
I am please to hear that the full official reveal is about to occur. This will bring forth the end of the NGE and my return to the Desk of the Rodo report to deliver its eulogy. This abomination deserves the stake of justification from the disfranchisement PreCU Veterans of SWG.
lol you are arguing over speculation at this point... so there really isnt any point... Personally i hope its nothing like SWG past or present SWG was crap imho. But i believe bio knows this aswell. But who knows maybe all you swg lovers will get what you want.
Just do not expect it to be similar to SWG pre-cu,cu or even NGE, no deep crafting, no player citys or houses...it will be all story and combat, they said they are not making a world simulator, so basicaly yeah just like Kotor but online,which for me is just blah kotor was an awesome single player game but does not fit as an MMO at all in my opinion, SWG is the only MMO i even cared to play beause it was so much different than single player offline games.
While I agree,. one should not expect Pre-CU SWG, I have no idea where you get the information that there will be no Player Cities or Houses and how deep/not deep the crafting system will be.
They said they are not making a world-simulator, sort of, but how does that relate to housing and crafting?
I am not sure myself but to me it says "we are not making another SWG and there will be no player cities".
It really doesn't matter if SWG is better. It doesn't matter if KO has player housing or what ever. It doesn't matter which one is more fun, has better graphics, is more true to cannon of which ever SW story it belongs to.
In the end when whatever new SW MMO comes out I believe SWG will be shut down by LA. Aurguing about potential vs. what was is pointless for me. All I can say is whatever comes out new better be pretty special. Otherwise I'll just quack myself to sleep at night. And all will be right in the SW universe.
"Suddenly, thousands of Trekies whose heads are full of facts of things like the stardate when the Cardassians farted on Deep Space nine are irrlelevant." - hardcoremoviecritic
Well prepared to be busted. I can say with some certianty that the hate Bioware feels for not only the SWG Vets, but the whole Sandbox concept runs pretty deep...Think of Anikin at the Tuskin camp, without the remorse later.
No sandbox, No Pre Cu, Pre NGE or anything similar....and look for a big ol perma ban for any vet that dares open their mouths on the forum.
Why would you think Bioware hates SWG vets and the concept of "sandbox"?
I may just be ill-informed, but I never heard about this.
Now I have heard that a lot of SWG vets were begging Bioware to do a Star Wars Online game, but nothing about Bioware hatin on us...
I very much doubt BioWare hates SWG Vets and/or Sandboxes. However I am pretty sure that BioWare will not make a Sandbox game. That is simply not their style. BioWare is known for story-driven games and they are excellent at Storytelling.
What I hope for a BioWare SW game, something that is not in other MMO's, is an alignment system where your choices actually matter and influence your character growth and a preferably ongoing, well-told story. That's what I am hoping for anyway.
I like the idea of having a choice based alignment system, that was one of the things I realy liked about KOTOR (and D&D of course).
I would probably play the Biowar SW MMO no matter what since I am a big fan of the IP, I just hope that it will be as entertaining as other Bioware titles I have played.
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Well prepared to be busted. I can say with some certianty that the hate Bioware feels for not only the SWG Vets, but the whole Sandbox concept runs pretty deep...Think of Anikin at the Tuskin camp, without the remorse later.
No sandbox, No Pre Cu, Pre NGE or anything similar....and look for a big ol perma ban for any vet that dares open their mouths on the forum.
Why would you think Bioware hates SWG vets and the concept of "sandbox"?
I may just be ill-informed, but I never heard about this.
Now I have heard that a lot of SWG vets were begging Bioware to do a Star Wars Online game, but nothing about Bioware hatin on us...
they don't hate us. nge fanbois just spread that crap around because they all short stroke anything involving glowbats. however lucas arts is involved and giving them a playerbase is like giving a pistol to a chimp.
SWG Pre-CU was a great idea, and probably sounded great on paper. In practice, it didn't pan out the way one would hope for a number of reasons which I won't get into here.
Personally, I like the idea of a Sandbox game - but I don't necessarily think a Star Wars MMO HAS to be one. Just because SWG was originally conceived as a Sandbox, doesn't mean there isn't room for a different kind of SWG. That being said, the NGE might have been truely remarkable had they just spent the time to develop it more. Of course, much could be said the same about Pre-CU.
The only real hopes I have for a new Star Wars MMO is that they just treat it with some respect, instead of a wanna-be cash cow, like SOE turned SWG into. Don't start making a bunch of content for the game that makes no sense. Keep it within a reasonable restraint of the actual Lore and Era for that matter. Combat doesn't have to be so overwhelmingly complex as long as it is fun, works, and makes sense. Offer a substantial reason to play something besides a Jedi, and for that matter, offer other classes besides Jedi.
People will play the game for no other reason than it is Star Wars. All you have to do is make a product that works and runs well.... that's all you have to do. You can add the groundbreaking stuff later. But all you need is to offer a game that doesn't completely bug out, and doesn't completely disrespect Star Wars Lore. I don't really think that is too much to ask for.
Well prepared to be busted. I can say with some certianty that the hate Bioware feels for not only the SWG Vets, but the whole Sandbox concept runs pretty deep...Think of Anikin at the Tuskin camp, without the remorse later.
No sandbox, No Pre Cu, Pre NGE or anything similar....and look for a big ol perma ban for any vet that dares open their mouths on the forum.
Why would you think Bioware hates SWG vets and the concept of "sandbox"?
I may just be ill-informed, but I never heard about this.
Now I have heard that a lot of SWG vets were begging Bioware to do a Star Wars Online game, but nothing about Bioware hatin on us...
I very much doubt BioWare hates SWG Vets and/or Sandboxes. However I am pretty sure that BioWare will not make a Sandbox game. That is simply not their style. BioWare is known for story-driven games and they are excellent at Storytelling.
What I hope for a BioWare SW game, something that is not in other MMO's, is an alignment system where your choices actually matter and influence your character growth and a preferably ongoing, well-told story. That's what I am hoping for anyway.
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Since I featured the KOTORO on more then one Rodo Report ( Which by the way can only be seen by my friends on MySpace until a sunset date for The NGE is announced ).
I am please to hear that the full official reveal is about to occur. This will bring forth the end of the NGE and my return to the Desk of the Rodo report to deliver its eulogy. This abomination deserves the stake of justification from the disfranchisement PreCU Veterans of SWG.
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lol you are arguing over speculation at this point... so there really isnt any point... Personally i hope its nothing like SWG past or present SWG was crap imho. But i believe bio knows this aswell. But who knows maybe all you swg lovers will get what you want.
While I agree,. one should not expect Pre-CU SWG, I have no idea where you get the information that there will be no Player Cities or Houses and how deep/not deep the crafting system will be.
They said they are not making a world-simulator, sort of, but how does that relate to housing and crafting?
I am not sure myself but to me it says "we are not making another SWG and there will be no player cities".
In my opinion and my opinion only...
It really doesn't matter if SWG is better. It doesn't matter if KO has player housing or what ever. It doesn't matter which one is more fun, has better graphics, is more true to cannon of which ever SW story it belongs to.
In the end when whatever new SW MMO comes out I believe SWG will be shut down by LA. Aurguing about potential vs. what was is pointless for me. All I can say is whatever comes out new better be pretty special. Otherwise I'll just quack myself to sleep at night. And all will be right in the SW universe.
"Suddenly, thousands of Trekies whose heads are full of facts of things like the stardate when the Cardassians farted on Deep Space nine are irrlelevant." - hardcoremoviecritic
Well prepared to be busted. I can say with some certianty that the hate Bioware feels for not only the SWG Vets, but the whole Sandbox concept runs pretty deep...Think of Anikin at the Tuskin camp, without the remorse later.
No sandbox, No Pre Cu, Pre NGE or anything similar....and look for a big ol perma ban for any vet that dares open their mouths on the forum.
Why would you think Bioware hates SWG vets and the concept of "sandbox"?
I may just be ill-informed, but I never heard about this.
Now I have heard that a lot of SWG vets were begging Bioware to do a Star Wars Online game, but nothing about Bioware hatin on us...
I very much doubt BioWare hates SWG Vets and/or Sandboxes. However I am pretty sure that BioWare will not make a Sandbox game. That is simply not their style. BioWare is known for story-driven games and they are excellent at Storytelling.
What I hope for a BioWare SW game, something that is not in other MMO's, is an alignment system where your choices actually matter and influence your character growth and a preferably ongoing, well-told story. That's what I am hoping for anyway.
I like the idea of having a choice based alignment system, that was one of the things I realy liked about KOTOR (and D&D of course).
I would probably play the Biowar SW MMO no matter what since I am a big fan of the IP, I just hope that it will be as entertaining as other Bioware titles I have played.
Make room for another Wow killer.
Problem is they will need a new graveyard because the present one is filled up with dozens of them.
I still hope for a good Star Trek MMORPG.
SW is again fantasy.