OJ Simpson - GUILTY!!!

Zindaihas

So says the jury in his criminal case.  Well, it looks like he's going to jail after all.  I hope the Goldman and Brown families can take some comfort in this verdict.  It's justice long overdo.

Tuor7

Simpson was not convicted of murder. Say what you want, but that's the bottom line about that. And it's not justice for those murders, it's justice for his actions related to attempted armed robbery.

Fortunately, as a Christian, I believe that in the end we are all held to account for our actions, good or bad. That's how I can not be too troubled when scum like Clinton and Bush are not punished for their lies and other deeds, and also why simple people who quietly do good things all end up with their own rewards. If all I believed in was human justice, I'd be even more perpetually depressed than I am already.

Tuor7

BlazinBlades, I don't see how you figure I'm screwed. Maybe I'm better off not knowing.

Gameloading

Originally posted by Tuor7


BlazinBlades, I don't see how you figure I'm screwed. Maybe I'm better off not knowing.

 

Don't respond to him. He is just trolling, i suggest you just ignore him.

tvalentine

makes me wonder wtf was going through simpsons' mind when he went into a hotel with 5 guys and 3 weapons over some memorobelia. I mean call the cops or something, you dont need to get a posse together to go get that stuff back.

olddaddy

Originally posted by tvalentine


makes me wonder wtf was going through simpsons' mind when he went into a hotel with 5 guys and 3 weapons over some memorobelia. I mean call the cops or something, you dont need to get a posse together to go get that stuff back.

 

I'm sure he was thinking about how he was going to give all that stuff to the Goldmans.

 

billie

61 year old O.J. Simpson was convicted of all 12 counts (kidnapping, armed robbery and 10 other charges) late Friday after the mostly white jurors (9 women, 3 men, one woman Asian and another Hispanic) deliberated for more than 13 hours. His attorney said he would appeal. Simpson's co-defendant, Clarence "C.J." Stewart, 54, also was found guilty on all charges and taken into custody.

From the beginning, Simpson and his lawyers argued the 13 September 2007 Palace Station Hotel and Casino incident was not a robbery, but an attempt to reclaim mementos that had been stolen from him.
Prosecutors said Simpson's ownership of the memorabilia was irrelevant; it was still a crime to try to take things by force; ownership is not an excuse for robbery, and Simpson could have called police or filed a lawsuit to get his stuff back.

Kidnapping is punishable by five years to life in prison. Armed robbery carries a mandatory sentence of at least two years behind bars, and could bring as much as 30. Sentencing was set for Dec. 5.

Four other men charged in the case struck plea bargains that saved them from potential prison sentences in return for their testimony. Some of them had criminal records or were otherwise compromised in some way. One, for example, was an alleged pimp who testified he had a revelation from G telling him to take a plea bargain.

Memorabilia dealer Thomas Riccio, who arranged and secretly recorded the hotel-room confrontation, said he netted $210,000 from the media for the tapes. Las Vegas police officers were heard in the recordings chuckling over Simpson's misfortune and crowing that if Los Angeles couldn't "get" him, they would (Simpson was cleared in 1995 of murdering his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ronald Goldman.)

During jury selection, Simpson's lawyers expressed fears that people who believed he got away with murder might see this case as a chance to right a wrong. As a result, an usually large pool of 500 potential jurors was called, and they were given a 26-page questionnaire. Half were almost instantly eliminated after expressing strong feelings that Simpson should have been convicted of murder.

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Blacks comprise 13 percent of the US population, but 30 percent of people arrested, 41 percent of people in jail, and 49 percent of those in prison (BJS, 1998 Sourcebook, Table 4.10 [arrests], Table 6.28 [jail inmates]; Allen J. Beck and Christopher J. Mumola, "Prisoners in 1998," Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice [August 1999].)

Human Rights Watch has been able to analyze state prison admissions based on raw data on 37 states gathered by the Bureau of Justice Statistics of the U.S. Department of Justice through its National Corrections Reporting Program (NCRP) for 1996, the most recent year for which this data is available. In 17 of these states, blacks constituted more than half of all prison admissions reference. Maryland had the highest percentage of black admissions, 79 percent, followed by Illinois with 74 percent, Louisiana with 73 percent, and New Jersey with 72 percent.

declaredemer

I hate how they say "mostly white" jurors as if the jurors are racist.  Sick.

 

 

The University of Chicago is doing one of the most comprehensive jury studies ever undertaken, and some of the results are remarkable:

• Jurors are smarter than everyone thinks;
• Jurors DO understand the law;
• Jurors DO follow the judge's instructions;
• Jurors are NOT racist (black, or white or straight or whatever);
• and the Jury system is one of our most vital and important democratic institutions.

 

Serving on a jury and being fair is the MOST important civic duty WE have.

Scalebane

Originally posted by Zindaihas


So says the jury in his criminal case.  Well, it looks like he's going to jail after all.  I hope the Goldman and Brown families can take some comfort in this verdict.  It's justice long overdo.

 

I love our judicial system, innocent until proven guilty, he was proven innocent but people still wanna hang him and judge him guilty heh.

Arndur

Originally posted by declaredemer


I hate how they say "mostly white" jurors as if the jurors are racist.  Sick.
 
 
The University of Chicago is doing one of the most comprehensive jury studies ever undertaken, and some of the results are remarkable:

Jurors are smarter than everyone thinks;
Jurors DO understand the law;
Jurors DO follow the judge's instructions;
Jurors are NOT racist (black, or white or straight or whatever);
and the Jury system is one of our most vital and important democratic institutions.

 
Serving on a jury and being fair is the MOST important civic duty WE have.

 

Sadly most people choose to just ignore these things and try to twist it to their advantage.

Arndur

Originally posted by Scalebane

Originally posted by Zindaihas


So says the jury in his criminal case.  Well, it looks like he's going to jail after all.  I hope the Goldman and Brown families can take some comfort in this verdict.  It's justice long overdo.

 

I love our judicial system, innocent until proven guilty, he was proven innocent but people still wanna hang him and judge him guilty heh.

 

There are only 12 people on the plant who thought he wasn't guilty.

Signe

Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Scalebane

Originally posted by Zindaihas


So says the jury in his criminal case.  Well, it looks like he's going to jail after all.  I hope the Goldman and Brown families can take some comfort in this verdict.  It's justice long overdo.

 

I love our judicial system, innocent until proven guilty, he was proven innocent but people still wanna hang him and judge him guilty heh.

 

There are only 12 people on the plant who thought he wasn't guilty.

 

Did all those jurors think he was innocent?  Or did they deem that the prosecution didn't prove their case and/or their case was dodgy?  I wasn't living in the US during the trial and didn't pay much attention.  I do remember reading some years after that several of the jurors said they couldn't convict him based on the trial evidence, mostly because they didn't trust either Fuhrman, who found just about all the evidence, or the lead detective, whose name I don't remember.  So, if I'm remembering correctly and if what I've read is true, even some of those jurors thought he was guilty.

c4ligul4

Originally posted by Tuor7


Simpson was not convicted of murder. Say what you want, but that's the bottom line about that. And it's not justice for those murders, it's justice for his actions related to attempted armed robbery.
Fortunately, as a Christian, I believe that in the end we are all held to account for our actions, good or bad. That's how I can not be too troubled when scum like Clinton and Bush are not punished for their lies and other deeds, and also why simple people who quietly do good things all end up with their own rewards. If all I believed in was human justice, I'd be even more perpetually depressed than I am already.

 

Just because Simpson wasn't convicted of it does not mean he didn't do it. Since when did 12 random people saying he didn't do it force us to think the same? Also as a Christian you are forgetting one of our fundamental beliefs. It is not our actions that get us into heaven, it is our belief in God. One does not do good deeds just to get into heaven one does it because it is the right thing to do.

Tuor7

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Originally posted by c4ligul4
 
Just because Simpson wasn't convicted of it does not mean he didn't do it. Since when did 12 random people saying he didn't do it force us to think the same? Also as a Christian you are forgetting one of our fundamental beliefs. It is not our actions that get us into heaven, it is our belief in God. One does not do good deeds just to get into heaven one does it because it is the right thing to do.

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Just because Simpson wasn't convicted doesn't mean he did do it, either.

Also, I'm not forgetting anything. I never said anything about whether or not someone goes to Heaven. I said that people will be held to account for their actions, which is not the same thing. I also never said that doing good deeds is what gets you into Heaven.

I didn't watch every minute of testimony at the Simpson trial. In fact, I watched almost none of it. However, legally he was not convicted. Whether or not you *believe* that he did it is your own affair, and I am not commenting on that. For myself: I don't know whether he did it or not, but I do know (or rather believe) that in the end we all have to own up for our deeds.

Sharajat

Originally posted by Scalebane

Originally posted by Zindaihas


So says the jury in his criminal case.  Well, it looks like he's going to jail after all.  I hope the Goldman and Brown families can take some comfort in this verdict.  It's justice long overdo.

 

I love our judicial system, innocent until proven guilty, he was proven innocent but people still wanna hang him and judge him guilty heh.

 

Our legal system is innocent until proven beyond a reasonable doubt.  He didn't get it proven beyond a reasonable doubt.  There is a verdict for proven innocent - "Case dismissed, with prejudice."

Rikimaru_X

Thank you for clearing that up Sharajat. I don't know what the man was thinking by doing such a thing. You would think  to stay out of trouble after what has happend years ago eh?

Snapps

Originally posted by Rikimaru_X


Thank you for clearing that up Sharajat. I don't know what the man was thinking by doing such a thing. You would think  to stay out of trouble after what has happend years ago eh?

I have to agree with you on this. Weather he done the muder of his wife or not(i don`t think he did) staying out of trouble would be my concern. It sounds like he was well and truely set up and fell for the bait.