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I bought the game expecting a lot of PvP fun, but I've decided to cancel my account after the first free month. The gameplay is blocky and unpolished, and it takes forever to get a scenario queue on my server, not to mention only one of the three scenarios at tier 2+ even have enough players queue to get something going. The world PvP is incredibley lame, the seige system sucks. I won't be returning until this they smooth most of the issues out, but as bad as they are in the current state, I'm expecting this to take at least a year.
Dear Mythic,
Don't release games that still feel like they're in the early stages of beta testing. I hope you'll learn your lesson when half of your subscribers cancel their accounts in November for a game that's succeeded in most aspects where you have failed. I may come back in a year if you get your sh*t together, but by that time I'll probably be too occupied with much better games.
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Played: Clan Lord, WoW, Matrix Online, LOTR:O, EVE, Tabula Rasa, Warhammer Online, Rift
Playing: Starcraft 2, Battlefield 3
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Well if you are making a pitch to WOW and trying to get your friends to play again you may be in the wrong forum. Unfortunatly if you think WAR's PVP sucks then that really says very little about WOW's. Only reason WOW has succeded is right time right place. If it switched places with WAR in release dates this topic would be saying the opposite.
Yes WAR has its problems but you really need to ask yourself what WOW is bringing thats new this November since its obvious you love WOW. The fact that WOW is doing nothing new and actually copying somethings from other games but doing less with them you need to worry about WOW not WAR. Do yourself a favor and worry about the problems with the game you do like.
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Enjoy WOW, Mythic has its sh*t together. I have experienced few bugs, short times for scenarios and during peak times they are almost isntant. The open world RvR is fun when you get 2 good teams beating each other down.
I will admit that WAR has its problems right now however In my opinion its still the most entertaining PVP MMO out on the market. Its very casual friendly which is great for a lot of people. I for one am not big on quests as I was spoiled by classic SWG's make your own adventure style and I find linear quests to be extremely boring since most of them are predictable, formulaic and poorly written. I like the fact that I pretty much dont have to do them at all and I can pick and choose while still getting decent xp and gear from PVP and PQs.
WOW doesnt fit my playstyle unfortunately. I played it for over a year and it never felt as free and open as WAR does while neither of them can compare at all to original SWG.
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
Your kind has ruined everything good about mmo's...all you do is bitch and moan. One time mmo communities were a place for civilized people to have fun and not for gear hungry kids that have an enlarged epeen. War will be a better place without you.
Enjoy WOW, Mythic has its sh*t together. I have experienced few bugs, short times for scenarios and during peak times they are almost isntant. The open world RvR is fun when you get 2 good teams beating each other down.
Not everyone is having the same exp as you.
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Nov 13th Blizzard is publishing ITS version of world PvP.
You know the version with MOBILE siege engines, manned tank combat, air units and destructable walls (no more knocking on doors).
Oh and you will get rewards and achievements when attacking enemy cities, capitols and the BIG bosses like Thrall.
Videos are already all over the place on the web. So search and be happy Blizzard is there to rectify the problems in PvP we've seen now in AoC and War.
Blizz quality we all know so well... from SC to Diablo, from Warcraft to Wow.
The moment you'll see those tanks rolling in with mobile siege equipment you'll think back about the door knocking in War, for that I am sure.
YAWN....... And?
By adding all that will they be able to refresh a game that is just plain stale? Doubtful.
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
Have fun with old boring WoW then.
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Yeah and its all in one zone and I bet if AV still gives more honor per hour it will be a dead zone anyway. As far as the achievements go they are no better than what WAR already has so they just took WAR's system and did a worse job on it. Why would people attack thrall does he drop awesome loot now or give 10000 honor? If not noone will do that either.
People only do stuff in WOW that gives them gear the fastest. If people played for fun more people would still be killing Ony and running molten core. People dont because there is no reason to other than fun but WOW is about gear not fun. People in WOW laugh at people who waste time doing old content instead of "doing their 10" or badge farming.
I am sorry to say but fun is not WOW's main objective anymore its gear. If you dont believe that then see how much of your current gear is worth a shit when you are level 80 and how much fun it was to vendor it.
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...another voice of reason strikes. I'm happy COD 5 is coming out Nov 11, prior to wrath, so I can finally get both games out of my head. The way I see it is warhammer fans = extremely loud, wow-haters with uncertain future and wow players = empty shells who've hopelessly lost their souls with a very certain future--playing wow like zombies as long as they keep it up.
Yeah and its all in one zone and I bet if AV still gives more honor per hour it will be a dead zone anyway. As far as the achievements go they are no better than what WAR already has so they just took WAR's system and did a worse job on it. Why would people attack thrall does he drop awesome loot now or give 10000 honor? If not noone will do that either.
People only do stuff in WOW that gives them gear the fastest. If people played for fun more people would still be killing Ony and running molten core. People dont because there is no reason to other than fun but WOW is about gear not fun. People in WOW laugh at people who waste time doing old content instead of "doing their 10" or badge farming.
I am sorry to say but fun is not WOW's main objective anymore its gear. If you dont believe that then see how much of your current gear is worth a shit when you are level 80 and how much fun it was to vendor it.
Yes, in Wow you play to better your character. Any problems with having fun AND better your character?
And perhaps War had better created more central zoned world PvP areas. Concentration helps.
As for the execution in the animation of the PvP fights itself and the possibilites of moveable siege engines, tanks, air and anti air units.... these options give indeed more tactical opportunities.
Btw AV is revamped a 4 th time. And there is a new sea landing BG with beach assaults, and 3 tiers to breach. So if you want to miss this kind of PvP action, np. But the problem is you don't want to miss it....
Ok so WOW after all these years cant balance the classes they have in PVP now they add seige weapons and expect them to be ok. I see it now nerf tanks.... buff missles. Yeah ok If the extra planes and tanks are not OPed then no one will use them, if they are then everyone will and it will come down to the nerf em stuff and then Blizz has to balance extra pvp weapons along with classes. Also if the honor from this is less than AV it will be the same as Nagrand and after newness wears off back to AV.
Blizzard although has a great overall rep with WOW they still have a horrible rep at how to balance classes. I dont know how many times PVP nerfs would affect me in PVE and its very annoying. If you truely believe that they can get it right then thats great but I have no faith in their ability to balance anything. All they know how to do is buff and nerf they do it in PVE and PVP.
They need to do it right the first time, WOW used to be a group balanced game like WAR is back before BC came out. It got changed due to all the whiners that want to be able to 1v1 and thats when the shit storm started. It got bad enough they just forgot about the BG's they had (old AV was my fav) and gave us arena. So all you duelers out there you carved WOW into what it is now. So enjoy it I wont till Blizz gets some balls and tells you basterds to STFU play our game the way they intended it to be.
It seems Blizz will do anything for your dollar but nothing they can do to get mine atleast not in WOW anyway. Also all you terds that randomly dropped duel flags all the time can kiss my ass!!
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I was exalted Hydraxian and I can tell you right now that if I never, ever set foot in Molten Core again in my life it will be too soon.
PvP balance of classes in Wow is - for an MMORPG - superb.
You want proof?
Look at the top rated 500 arena players (from a posssible 10.000.000 btw) and you'll see that EVERY class is represented in that category.
IF the classes were unbalanced, only 2 or 3 classes would be in that top 500 list.
Every class is represented in that absolute top. For SOME classes SOME arena setups are more difficult, but all classes shine if you take the combined 2vs2, 3vs3 or 5 vs 5 arena plays.
And these millions of fights show that you'll find all classes in that 2100+ rating category.
So these facts show clearly you're wrong. As a matter of fact tx to arena we get excellent facts and stats how the classes interact with each other. A heaven to analyse.
Players who say "arena sucks" btw are clearly saying "I suck in arena".
Players like to think they are Carl Lewis but in reality they just don't play very well their class. I am glad you can see that all classes can get very high ratings in the combined arena settings.
Adding world PvP in WotlK now and tuning it is far easier with balancing techniques the arena system delivers than having ' a wet thumb in the air".
PvP balance of classes in Wow is - for an MMORPG - superb.
You want proof?
Look at the top rated 500 arena players (from a posssible 10.000.000 btw) and you'll see that EVERY class is represented in that category.
IF the classes were unbalanced, only 2 or 3 classes would be in that top 500 list.
Every class is represented in that absolute top. For SOME classes SOME arena setups are more difficult, but all classes shine if you take the combined 2vs2, 3vs3 or 5 vs 5 arena plays.
And these millions of fights show that you'll find all classes in that 2100+ rating category.
So these facts show clearly you're wrong. As a matter of fact tx to arena we get excellent facts and stats how the classes interact with each other. A heaven to analyse.
Players who say "arena sucks" btw are clearly saying "I suck in arena".
Players like to think they are Carl Lewis but in reality they just don't play very well their class. I am glad you can see that all classes can get very high ratings in the combined arena settings.
Adding world PvP in WotlK now and tuning it is far easier with balancing techniques the arena system delivers than having ' a wet thumb in the air".
Nobody here cares about WOW man. We all left that game because we were sick of its stale old repetitive garbage and you coming onto this board to sing its praises for putting new lipstick on an old worn out pig just reeks of desperate fanboism.
If its so fabulous go play it instead of trying to convince people who have moved on that they were mistaken or will regret it because of some future ploy by Blizzard to prolong WOW's market viability.
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
PvP balance of classes in Wow is - for an MMORPG - superb.
You want proof?
Look at the top rated 500 arena players (from a posssible 10.000.000 btw) and you'll see that EVERY class is represented in that category.
IF the classes were unbalanced, only 2 or 3 classes would be in that top 500 list.
Every class is represented in that absolute top. For SOME classes SOME arena setups are more difficult, but all classes shine if you take the combined 2vs2, 3vs3 or 5 vs 5 arena plays.
And these millions of fights show that you'll find all classes in that 2100+ rating category.
So these facts show clearly you're wrong. As a matter of fact tx to arena we get excellent facts and stats how the classes interact with each other. A heaven to analyse.
Players who say "arena sucks" btw are clearly saying "I suck in arena".
Players like to think they are Carl Lewis but in reality they just don't play very well their class. I am glad you can see that all classes can get very high ratings in the combined arena settings.
Adding world PvP in WotlK now and tuning it is far easier with balancing techniques the arena system delivers than having ' a wet thumb in the air".
Nobody here cares about WOW man. We all left that game because we were sick of its stale old repetitive garbage and you coming onto this board to sing its praises for putting new lipstick on an old worn out pig just reeks of desperate fanboism.
If its so fabulous go play it instead of trying to convince people who have moved on that they were mistaken or will regret it because of some future ploy by Blizzard to prolong WOW's market viability.
I just reacted to the posters killing off the OP who stated that War was crappy.
If you don't want to be informed what the industry leader of MMORPG's have in petto, well who is the desperate fanboy?
Cognitive dissonance (exclude everything form your sight that opposes your theories).
Did it ever occur to you that most of the functions didnt work because you were on a low pop. server? Before you start flaming on WAR get your information straight and go back to the game and re-roll on a high population server such as Azazel. On Azazel we got World Wide RvR and Scenarios popping up every where. Azazel is one of the few servers that are actually full too. Seriously though your a idiot seeing as you haven't seen the full potential of WAR because your on low pop so plz shut up and go re-roll before you flame this game
WoW = 4 years of patches and fixes
WAR = 2 weeks old and already a better game
ROFLMAO... In your dreams. If you have no proofs don't post...
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ROFLMAO... In your dreams. If you have no proofs don't post...
Errm! proof that WoW has had 4 years of patches and fixes? that's common knowledge.
Proof that WAR is 2 weeks old, that's common knowledge as well.
Proof that WAR is the better game? don't need any because that's my personal opinion just the same as you have yours.
ROFLMAO... In your dreams. If you have no proofs don't post...
Errm! proof that WoW has had 4 years of patches and fixes? that's common knowledge.
Proof that WAR is 2 weeks old, that's common knowledge as well.
Proof that WAR is the better game? don't need any because that's my personal opinion just the same as you have yours.
You mix up facts with your personal opinion, that's called a logical error.
Earth is round, moon circles around the earth and ... Bush Jr. is the best president the US ever had.
See the error?
ROFLMAO... In your dreams. If you have no proofs don't post...
We do. We played WOW for years and already like WAR better. Its not for everyone and is buy no means a "WOW killer" (I F@#$ing hate that term), but it will hold at least a million subs and more as time goes on. The Game is weeks old and is doing great and will only get better. If you love WoW then by all means go play it, but we couldn't care less WTF you think so stop trying to convince others your game is better. It may be to you but we DO NOT CARE. This crap is getting old and will do nothing but kill the MMO market, so go play whatever MMO you like and stop invading other forums and pissing everyone off. The Darkfall fanbois are the worst example, So please seriously everyone post on the damn forum of the game you enjoy or are looking forward to and stop this BS forum invading. Threads like this need to be deleted asap by the moderators.
I'll make a bet that the OP attempted to que up in the mornings when ppl are at school or working during the weekdays. Wait til the afternoon and night troll.
These I hate WAR threads are getting old and boring.
Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
Playing EVE Online and AOC.
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ROFLMAO... In your dreams. If you have no proofs don't post...
Errm! proof that WoW has had 4 years of patches and fixes? that's common knowledge.
Proof that WAR is 2 weeks old, that's common knowledge as well.
Proof that WAR is the better game? don't need any because that's my personal opinion just the same as you have yours.
You mix up facts with your personal opinion, that's called a logical error.
Earth is round, moon circles around the earth and ... Bush Jr. is the best president the US ever had.
See the error?
WoW & WAR cannot be compared unless you compare WoW how it was 2 weeks after it's release to WAR now. WoW had just as many bugs, all MMO's do. The difference is that WAR has no actual game breaking bugs, WoW did ( ten minutes kneeling by a corpse anyone). WoW brought zero in innovation to the genre, WAR has brought PQ's, open groups, xp gain through different ways of play instead of just quests or AE mob grinding etc.
Both games are good but in my opinion WAR is better.
No it's not!
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