End game = scenario grinding?

Vyeth

Do you guys think open rvr will ever pick up at rank 40? I am in T4, and I still see no ifference in the way the game is played. Most of the population stay in scenarios (one scenario mainly), and all the lvl 40's ive seen just remain in scenarios pretty much solo farming lower levs in them for massive renown...

I am not calling bust yet, but I will probably not hang around for 80 RR levels if they have to come from endless scenario grind..

Should they consider making lvl 40 like its own "tier", and make them unable to play in scenarios? So that lvl 40's have to seige and do open RvR for renown. Perhaps also make gaurds and npc's at keeps give good amounts of renown when they are killed?

They have to fix this, or the end game is looking to be a little like Fury.. And we seen how that story ended (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=19713)

Gregtheexcon

 I all honesty man, its way to early to know. I mean your probably in the lower poplation tier as many peeps are rerolling to figure what class suits em best and playing several chars and it is still in the first month. 

But when you look at other games whats end game like? Grinding for something. Every MMO is a grind its just iffrent in the ways to do it. WHEN a server gets to the point where there is over half the pop as lvl 40 then yes RVR in open areas will be larger. But yor talking end game content 3 weeks after release.

Slow down and enjoy the ride man, or you will burn out.

Czzarre

I think we all know that end game RvR will not be Scenario but City Raiding.

Its just not in yet, but you know its coming down the pike

banthis

Originally posted by Czzarre


I think we all know that end game RvR will not be Scenario but City Raiding.
Its just not in yet, but you know its coming down the pike

 

Actually End Game is there..there's just currently not enough T4 players at lvl 40 with decent renown rank to complete it.  You can not complete End Game with a single guild as a Euro Server already proved when they were unable to complete one of the PQ parts of the End Game Siege to fully take the city.  End game in WAR depends on a good bit of the population of a server on atleast 1 side to be possible.  You only have a 12 hour window to lock down 1 fortress while another guild locks down the other, fortresses are not an easy fight though the Euro Server that went to them used a well known beta bug to slip in through the Enemy's back door (which is supposed to be for the Enemy's use only) to take the fortress. 

Either way there is no 'its coming later' its already there just no server has enough max level people ready to take it everyone is still figuring out the game, building guilds, building alliances etc.

 People who rushed to the end are probably going to be some of the worst players on a server since they didn't take the time to learn anything about the game (unless they're elder testers i can understand rushing if you were in beta for months).

Of course the Euro peeps couldn't of gotten to much out of the siege its doubtful that the either City was Rank 5 which opens up the King instance.   Invaders only get access to what the Defenders had unlocked and once the Siege is over the City goes back to level 1 so there's no point in ransacking it back to back since it'll be worth little to nothing if its a poor city.

Unknown

People will sc grind till rr 80 then people will do city raiding over and over

i know this is vague but, its true

In order to even wear the drops off the cities boss u have to be rr80

Well the Mythics at least. so y would anyone do it if they can make their char more powerful with rr70 gear first then go to the boss

banthis

I'll be doing both Open RvR & Scenarios...I get bored / frustrated if i have to do the same couple of scenarios over and over..not to mention it gets tiring of being randomly grouped up against 6 Bright Wizards there's no combination of a group in a small Scenario area that can take on and live against that.  People who grind off Scenarios suck to play with to be honest not to mention they miss out on all the Gear Sets you can only get through Open RvR.  

But whatever to each their own..some will scenario grind, some will do everything, and some will do only open rvr.   At the moment there's not enough people playing T4 to make a real judgement on what it'll be like besides the number of scenarios that open up is locked at a fairly small amount per scenario.   IF most of the server population reaches T4 its doubtful that everyone will do only scenarios since the Queue time will be fairly long by then.

Besides Open RvR is techincally worth more RP points people just havent' figured that out yet.  Hopefully theyll nerf Scenarios RP gain eventually. 

Grayh

I've been noticing a huge uptick in Open RvR in T2 on Azazel.   We got a group together last night and thought we would just waltz around taking BO's and keeps and it turned into huge open field fighting in two different pairings. 

This game wont' mature for a few more months, when it does, i really feel that it will be more about the open rvr than anything else. 

 

Frostbite05

the games still new just breaking its first month and its gotten alot better population wise and gameplay. They are smoothing/pollishing everything out. Im sure they will end up changing the importance of scenarios.

Ixnatifual

 Mythic's looking at taking any necessary steps to make players flock into the open world RvR lakes, as they feel there's currently too much emphasis on Scenarios. We'll have to wait and see how that works out - wait too early to tell right now, as we don't know how the player base will act at rank 40, nor what ideas Mythic will come up with.