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Will Obama bring back the draft?
Xemous
Member Posts: 255
Saw clips from the presidential debate, and concerning the war, obama said something on the lines of,
"It shouldn't just be the military families sending our troops to war, we need to support of all Americans and leadership in Washington to change this."
Thats not the exact quote, but its what i recall him saying.
Being a 17 year old male this kind of worries me. Obama has the best chance imo of winning the election, yet few voters know what he really stands for.
Many people might say obama wants to stop the war (obama voters) But from what ive been reading he wants to increase troop presence and invade afganistan.
I hope someone can prove me wrong on this, I would appreciate it.
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Were did you get draft out of that? and the president doesnt have the power to start a draft
www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/07/presidential.debate.transcript/
Brokaw: Since World War II, we have never been asked to sacrifice anything to help our country, except the blood of our heroic men and women. As president, what sacrifices -- sacrifices will you ask every American to make to help restore the American dream and to get out of the economic morass that we're now in?
Obama: You know, a lot of you remember the tragedy of 9/11 and where you were on that day and, you know, how all of the country was ready to come together and make enormous changes to make us not only safer, but to make us a better country and a more unified country.
And President Bush did some smart things at the outset, but one of the opportunities that was missed was, when he spoke to the American people, he said, "Go out and shop."
That wasn't the kind of call to service that I think the American people were looking for.
And so it's important to understand that the -- I think the American people are hungry for the kind of leadership that is going to tackle these problems not just in government, but outside of government.
And let's take the example of energy, which we already spoke about. There is going to be the need for each and every one of us to start thinking about how we use energy.
I believe in the need for increased oil production. We're going to have to explore new ways to get more oil, and that includes offshore drilling. It includes telling the oil companies, that currently have 68 million acres that they're not using, that either you use them or you lose them.
We're going to have to develop clean coal technology and safe ways to store nuclear energy.
But each and every one of us can start thinking about how can we save energy in our homes, in our buildings. And one of the things I want to do is make sure that we're providing incentives so that you can buy a fuel efficient car that's made right here in the United States of America, not in Japan or South Korea, making sure that you are able to weatherize your home or make your business more fuel efficient.
And that's going to require effort from each and every one of us.
And the last point I just want to make. I think the young people of America are especially interested in how they can serve, and that's one of the reasons why I'm interested in doubling the Peace Corps, making sure that we are creating a volunteer corps all across this country that can be involved in their community, involved in military service, so that military families and our troops are not the only ones bearing the burden of renewing America.
That's something that all of us have to be involved with and that requires some leadership from Washington.
I asked my magic 8 ball, and it said "Cannot predict now."
Really though, I doubt that any President would, or could, ever reinstate the draft after how horribly wrong the war in Vietnam went. The only way I think we would have a draft is if the sh*t really hit the fan, and we were knee deep in WW 3.
The democrats have tried to bring back the draft, because they wanted to hurt Bush and the war effort. I doubt they would do that under a Democrat administration. This is all about ppolitics to them. Once they are in power, they'll probably take it seriously again. Then it'll be the Republicans turn to be jerks, like they were when clinton was in the White House.
fishermage.blogspot.com
No he won't. As far as him mentioning the military he is probably talking about adding incentives. Don't know why he mentioned it. If someone wants to join theres a recruiting station generally close by no matter where you live.
Carrying on a bit like I do:
No one has the balls to do it.
1. Currently, someone will die over it. I am not trying to sound out there, even though I am sure I am sounding that way. People are already uneasy about the economy and it is causing them to do all sorts of crazy shit. How about the guy who killed his 3 kids, wife, mother in law and then himself the other day. All due to the economy, so the news said.
2. Something like the LA Riots come to mind. Again taking the current situation into mind.
It won't happen.
No. Obama will dismantle the military and hand the US directly to Russia and China without a fight.
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
Actually, Obama wants to extend the war to Africa, which I suppose is as good a place as any for the next phase.
fishermage.blogspot.com
Actually, Obama wants to extend the war to Africa, which I suppose is as good a place as any for the next phase.
Oh snap I forgot about Darfur... Get your Draft cards Updated people!
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
Actually, Obama wants to extend the war to Africa, which I suppose is as good a place as any for the next phase.
Extend war to Africa? That is laughable. I can't wait till Obama wins in November.
I wouldn't worry about it OP, Bush may declare martial law before that can happen, he still has 3 and a half months. An Interesting little article: www.alternet.org/rights/101958/thousands_of_troops_are_deployed_on_u.s._streets_ready_to_carry_out_%22crowd_control%22/
Members of Congress were told they could face martial law if they didn't pass the bailout bill.
U.S. Rep. Brad Sherman of California said to Congress, captured on C-Span and viewable on YouTube, that individual members of the House were threatened with martial law within a week if they did not pass the bailout bill:
"The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere. … Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day and a couple of thousand on the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no."
If this is true and Rep. Sherman is not delusional, I ask you to consider that if they are willing to threaten martial law now, it is foolish to assume they will never use that threat again. It is also foolish to trust in an orderly election process to resolve this threat. And why deploy the First Brigade? One thing the deployment accomplishes is to put teeth into such a threat.
Your chains are made....
Obama doesn't support bringing back the draft.
I imagine, though, that he'll advocate a program that will expand the GI Bill's education benefits to other volunteer organizations, like the Peace Corps and Vista.
If a draft were to be brought back, I'd advocate that the government datamine internet boards like this one and those who scream the most about how much they support the illegal, immoral war in Iraq but of course won't put their worthless asses on the line be amongst the first to be drafted into the Army as 11 bang-bang types.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
No way. No how.
The draft will not be implemented.
The problem with the draft is that it does not work well. It hurts the economy, and the draftees are not motivated to serve.
The US military is in desperate state under the management of a Republican Administration; reach and technology and funding for all sorts of prepardeness have been diverted to Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere.
The U.S. military is greatly over extended. My friend, officer of the Air Force, who loves the Air Force, says the military is incredibly different from when he joined to today. There are shortages everywhere. Moreoever, people are constantly putting in so many extra shifts with no days off.
Unfortunately, it is not an exaggeration to say the military is at a breaking point.
I am so proud of the US military. I really admire the value system of the military (duty, honor, country) and how our soldiers little complain. The military consistently does the job it is asked to do in a professional, ethical, and effective way with its resources.
Speak softly and carry a big stick. Honestly, John McCain sounds almost like a war-monger to ME. Perhaps it is just ME, but I am listening to the debates and my sense is that this guy thinks four wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, NK (only cease-fire), and terror) is not enough. Sudan, Iran, Syria, etc. all seem to be "on the table" for attack.
That is not responsible - at all. I think the world is aware that our military is over stretched, and we need to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Unfortunately, everyone thinks you can win Afghanistan with more troops, which is probably not the case.
We should honor our military. We have great men and women in our military, and we are very lucky to have them there and serving, ultimately, us, We the People. The more military people I meet, the more confident I am in the country. Many members of the Armed Forces I know are very pro-American and pro-liberty type of people... like me. I still think about enlisting, believe it or not.
Actually, Obama wants to extend the war to Africa, which I suppose is as good a place as any for the next phase.
Oh snap I forgot about Darfur... Get your Draft cards Updated people!
nah, he wouldn't be so stupid to start a draft -- but I wouldn't put it past republicans by trying to undermine him with one -- just as Democrats did this time around.
fishermage.blogspot.com
Actually, Obama wants to extend the war to Africa, which I suppose is as good a place as any for the next phase.
Extend war to Africa? That is laughable. I can't wait till Obama wins in November.
Watch and learn. Remember where you heard it.
fishermage.blogspot.com
Actually, Obama wants to extend the war to Africa, which I suppose is as good a place as any for the next phase.
Extend war to Africa? That is laughable. I can't wait till Obama wins in November.
Watch and learn. Remember where you heard it.
Its these Lessons after the fact that are killing us Now. Just look at Fannie and Freddie. McCain and the rest of the republicans were warning us about it and we Ignored it..
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams