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SW:TOR != SW:G ?
Jupsto
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Seriously whats makes people think they will be anything alike. To my knowledge none of biowares games are anything like SWG. bioware tend to make games with at least some mass appeal, not catering to a niche of trekkies on the internet. bioware likes to do good graphics + instancing.
Do not expect seemless worlds or complete sandbox. DO expect a good story driven MMO, but not anything like SWG. your only going to be crying on the 21st and forum trolls such as myself will be laughing. I know I will be disapointed since it won't be exactly the game I want it to be either.
besides to everyone on this forum there is a large chance in fairness the bioware + lucas arts project will be separate to bioware's MMO project. the teaser shows it is definately old republic , but could yet be a KOTOR 3 (simply called TOR). biowares MMO might just be another pile of crap about dwarfs, elves and goblins.
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Well, to be honest, if your going into this situation hoping that the game will be anything liek SWg, you are setting you self up for dissapointment. MARK MY WORDS!!! Ive read info on the game they are making and the things they have described sound more like one of there rpgs, but at the same time they have modified the formula to work in a more MMOish type atmosphere. They want to tell a story, and they want you to feel like you have progressed in the universe they built through the story. They want you to be able to tell a tale. That is not SWG at all.... so if yoru reading this, do not say you werent warned.
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They're both using the same universe and star wars license....durr, that would make the majority of people believe the games would be somewhat similar.
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Let me tell you what's the game is going to be like.
No offense intended.
WoW + Star Wars theme + name recognition = Subpar Star Wars game.
Let's face it folks. WoW style theme park games have been coming out since WoW. And due to the success and the money hungry group lucas arts is.. They will most likely follow this forumla.
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Sadly I believe you may be right.
Unless Bioware is gonna surprise us, they are well known for scripted rpgs, not non-linear sandboxes (Like Bethesda). God, I hope they surprise us.
Wasn't trying to 'WoW-ify' Star Wars what killed SWG?
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isnt this swg in its current state?
playing eq2 and two worlds
Yes they killed SWG by trying to "wowify" it. What I am afraid of is that Bioware might think they can wowify better than SOE did, and that SWG was just a fluke. I hope this is not the case, nay I wish this is not the case.
Enough already, we don't know what the new SW mmo will be like. It could be wow with lightsabers or it could be like diablo a complete single player experience with a multiplayer co-op mechanic.
the fact is we wont know till they actually tell us what its going to be.
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QFT. It's really getting out of hand, what with people predicting the doom or the success of an MMO that hasn't even been announced yet!!!
I'm as curious about this as the next guy, but predictions about doom and gloom should at least wait till SOMEbody has SOME idea of what the game will actually be.
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I will laugh my ass off if they announce it's a star wars massively multiplayer FPS and it has nothing to do with the MMORPG genre.
Okay, I don't think that's likely, but seriously all this speculating is getting a little out of hand.
It won't be as good as Star Wars Galaxies because even SWG wasn't that good.
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isnt this swg in its current state?
Nope. The equation does not have "Broken piece of shit" in it.
Just joking around. Btw what is the "teaser" OP is talking about? Have I missed something or does he just mean the 2 pics that been around here few days now?
god that would so own! i would be there in a heartbeat.
Agreed. EA runs Mythic and Bioware, and look at WAR. WAR is fun, but geez it'd be nice if there was something to do other than play scenarioes.
i dotn think teh game will be liek WOW at all. I mean hey, all mmo's have similar elements, its teh nature of teh business, but will it be a super solo, lack luster questing system, warzone areas and raid all end game type of game. Sorry i dont see that happening. I think Bioware is going to give us something new and innovative, im not saying the whole thing is gonna be different, but the core of it will be. So if you wanna make a bet, we can have some friendly wager going on!
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All this guessing is getting old. We will have the answer next week, so it's time for everyone to take a chill. The only concrete information out is the GW interview that was done a few yrs. back.
We know it will be story driven, Non linear, GW statement not mine, and have a very indepth character progression system. The thing is, these type of systems and things can change at any moment on any given day in the development life of an MMO.
So, we just need to sit back and relax
WoW is only a proven formula for it's self only. In other words WoW does well because it's WoW and because its made by Blizzard.
The WoW formula;
Steal ideas from other games, make it so monkeys can understand it + Blizzard Name
toss in a blender and hit "blend" serve in a chilled glass.
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The WoW formula;
Steal ideas from other games, make it so monkeys can understand it + Blizzard Name
toss in a blender and hit "blend" serve in a chilled glass.
Pretty much. Its a freakin Hot Pocket MMO. xD
I keep hoping that something "different" will come out but so far even console games are all recycled ideas. Heres to hoping that Bioware can break the mold and do something that hasn't been done, I'm not going to hold my breath though.
I wouldn't mind seeing a graphical style for a new Star Wars game based on the new series they are running on Cartoon Network. The character designs would be stylized enough yet wouldn't have the huge polly count of some of the current gen games.
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You wouldn't understand
In today's economy I wouldnt even dream to expect anything that differs from the proven money making formula. Honestly I wish Bioware luck in finding investors.
Sadly I believe you may be right.
Unless Bioware is gonna surprise us, they are well known for scripted rpgs, not non-linear sandboxes (Like Bethesda). God, I hope they surprise us.
You guys are forgetting something very important. Sure, Bioware isn't known for their sandbox SP RPGs, and yes they are known for their scripted RPG stories. The most important thing to remember about this is the fact that Bioware doesn't just do this sort of game well. They do it better than anyone else in the RPG genre. No other developer accomplishes what Bioware accomplishes with storytelling with such pristine polish. True, some developers have come close, and deserve merit for doing so well at it - namely CDProjekt for what they did with The Witcher. But still, Bioware takes the cake on this one.
That's something important to keep in mind. Sure, it may be another scripted RPG with instanced missions. But they'll probably be some of the best MMO gaming you've had in the past 5 years. In all accounts, it will more than likely blow your mind to how awesome great content comes from someone who knows how to handle these sorts of game elements as opposed to someone who hasn't spent years and years perfecting the essential story telling techniques.
All that aside, I have a feeling that their new MMO will more than likely be a little bit more sandbox than we think. I suspect that it won't be an all out sandbox, but will definitely have a feeling of player-interdependency. My hope is that it will be as close to SWG Pre-CU as possible, without having too much in the way of redundant game elements.
Ooooo it looks like the hype machine is going into second gear here.
People are praising Bioware like they are some kind of gods. They are speculating about a game which we know nothing about yet and basing assumptions on previous games that they've created. And thus already pronoucing it a fantastic success because of this past history.
How could they possibly fail? They know how to make a good game.
I'm sorry but this is sounding all too familiar....
Replace the name "Bioware"...with Brad McQuaid and then it all becomes much clearer. Seriously guys, for all we know Bioware might be wanting to create a Starwars version of Hellgate where EVERYONE is a jedi.
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And as always along comes all the haters and doubters who said for years BioWare would never work with Lucas Arts on anything again, do an MMO based on anything buy Baulders Gate ect. Please.... just because you aren't looking forward to something is no reason to hate on others who enjoy speculating in threads. Unless this is just a wind up, let them speculate, its not hurting you, me or anyone else.