That must be why people keep asking why their character doesn't grow beards etc...
Maybe us forum dwellers knew but I hardly doubt everyone who bought the game knew all about the game beforehand, including the stuff that was cut after they preordered it perhaps, you know... 6+ months ago
Been through this before. Pre-orders had plenty of time to cancel.
Everyone else.. well what do you want mythic to do? They talk about ideas and then find that they cant provide them for release. They make a public announcement .. way before release (not after like Funcom). What is so dishonest and terrible about that? Its not mythics fault if people dont register to newsletters etc..
to be honest tho. anyone who wasn't following the game to be aware of the cuts.. probably wasnt aware of the cut features in the first place. No loss.
There's nothing particularly commendable about it either though. And i also disagree with the last. You read up on a game, read it's features and think "cool "" I'm getting that one, and you preorder it. At that point it's features not delivered for anyone not aware of the cuts no matter how short/long the time they had to cancel.
Do I agree with you that what actually is in release is what they said shortly before in game was there? Sure ... but what's the point in mentioning that then?
I could release a game tomorrow and deliver 1/5th of what I promised a year ago, but it's ok, since I'm warning you today. Great, now you tell people tomorrow I delivered on all the content I said was gonna be at release.
That's what you did, and with the way you think on it, the argument itself has become meaningless, not a worthy praise.
I am not commending their actions and am giving no praise. They have acted appropriately. However, you are complaining - and I am saying your complaint is unjust.
You argument falls flat for one reason. You are under the misguided impression that because a developer talks about features during development.. it means they are making promises about what will be in at release.
So now youre going to find some quote of a dev stating that x will be in game. Dont bother. Devs can hardly talk about their game during development in terms of.. this might be in.. this might be in.. it wont sound good.
It should be incredibly obvious to anyone that devs can only talk about their intentions until close to release. If you think they made promises.. you only have yourself to blame for your current dissapointment.
For a game thats been live not even 2 months its in great shape imo. If you look at all the games that have been out for years now they are STILL trying to tweak and adjust just as WAR is doing as well. I agree with you on EA having crap standards in general but to be so angry at a game that hasnt had 3 to 5 months live is just dumb. Come back in a few months see if they have fixed the shit you dont like instead of going on these insane rants. There have been a TON Of games that have been just horrible compared to WAR. I didnt play GW when it was first released but i bet any kind of money they had to tweak and fix and do this and that to make it into the great game it is today. Anyways take a breather play some consle games;P i whipped out old FFT for my playstation and am having a blast again:P
Last time I read about GW2 it was going to have less instancing not a full persistant world.
A few maps youll be able to see and play with other players not the whole game. Thats why they said there adding persistant "areas". Plus itll just be like the citys except monsters in them. And it wont be the majority of the maps.
Guild Wars 2 is coming out and I'm doing Beta for a proven winner, not some loser like Mythic. 1.11 you say? In December? no thanks too busy playing Far Cry 2, Call of Duty world at war, and far better games during the Holidays, my 15.00 per month is worth much more than this, I can play Guild Wars for free and get a much better balanced PVP experience than this crap. Can you say EPIC FAIL, Hey Mythic i got a tombstone for your Dead game, wanna know the Date on it? NOV 13, 2008
I also believe that GW2 will be more succesful than WAR (or most other games for that matter, only competition I know about will be Biowares upcomming game.
But war can still be saved, no problem. If Mythic really works hard it can be good in 6 months, it is not that bad but needs polishing and more content. EA however is dangerous, if they are not happy they might cancel it like Sims online. But I still believe that they can make it a good game, even though I doubt it will be beating Guildwars 2, Arenanet got 3 of the worlds best programmers.
Arena Net has proven that F2P does work, and for that they releas excellent content, there classes are not just one class but Multi-classes, you can multi class and have 2 classes in one , with a primary. IMO there is no way EA can counter Guild Wars 2 coming out next year. They are making a lot of noise with their Persistent world model, and high customization features...mounts and all other good stuff....the key here is F2P something EA just cringes at. This will destroy Warhammer, because essentially thats what War is a PVP game and Guild Wars OWNS PVP. I can only see Guild wars PVP getting much better after being experienced in the PVP mechanics for well over 4 years.....I play GW just about every other day and everyone is levelng their characters to take them over to GW2, literally hundreds of servers with thousands of subs....many companies are overlooking GW2 but it's gonna cost them some money.
EA has no problem, no problem at all with shutting down WAR if it dips even a notch below the losing spectrum...WHY? because EA is a Company more than a GAme producer and their strategy is make money not gamers happy.....sure you guys want small servers with only the faithful on it like MATRIX, don't count on it, EA will shut that shit down, caus they don't care......GL
I play GW just about every other day and everyone is levelng their characters to take them over to GW2, literally hundreds of servers with thousands of subs....many companies are overlooking GW2 but it's gonna cost them some money.
This particulare statement in bold yoiu mention that you can take your charcter from GW to GW2. Well based on the info directly from the GW2 FAQ that is an incorrect statement. Please read:
"Can I play my original Guild Wars character in Guild Wars 2?"
"Because Guild Wars 2 is a whole new game with different professions and races, new technology, and expanded gameplay, it would not be possible to directly use an original Guild Wars character.
However, your original Guild Wars character names will be reserved for your use in Guild Wars 2. In addition, Guild Wars 2 recognizes the accomplishments commemorated by your original Guild Wars characters in the Hall of Monuments and provides you with unique rewards to showcase those achievements."
Guild Wars 2 is coming out and I'm doing Beta for a proven winner, not some loser like Mythic. 1.11 you say? In December? no thanks too busy playing Far Cry 2, Call of Duty world at war, and far better games during the Holidays, my 15.00 per month is worth much more than this, I can play Guild Wars for free and get a much better balanced PVP experience than this crap. Can you say EPIC FAIL, Hey Mythic i got a tombstone for your Dead game, wanna know the Date on it? NOV 13, 2008
I also believe that GW2 will be more succesful than WAR (or most other games for that matter, only competition I know about will be Biowares upcomming game.
But war can still be saved, no problem. If Mythic really works hard it can be good in 6 months, it is not that bad but needs polishing and more content. EA however is dangerous, if they are not happy they might cancel it like Sims online. But I still believe that they can make it a good game, even though I doubt it will be beating Guildwars 2, Arenanet got 3 of the worlds best programmers.
Arena Net has proven that F2P does work, and for that they releas excellent content, there classes are not just one class but Multi-classes, you can multi class and have 2 classes in one , with a primary. IMO there is no way EA can counter Guild Wars 2 coming out next year. They are making a lot of noise with their Persistent world model, and high customization features...mounts and all other good stuff....the key here is F2P something EA just cringes at. This will destroy Warhammer, because essentially thats what War is a PVP game and Guild Wars OWNS PVP. I can only see Guild wars PVP getting much better after being experienced in the PVP mechanics for well over 4 years.....I play GW just about every other day and everyone is levelng their characters to take them over to GW2, literally hundreds of servers with thousands of subs....many companies are overlooking GW2 but it's gonna cost them some money.
EA has no problem, no problem at all with shutting down WAR if it dips even a notch below the losing spectrum...WHY? because EA is a Company more than a GAme producer and their strategy is make money not gamers happy.....sure you guys want small servers with only the faithful on it like MATRIX, don't count on it, EA will shut that shit down, caus they don't care......GL
Well, first of all, GW is mostly instanced so "sure" free to play works with mostly instanced content. And small instances.
Warhammer does have instanced content but not only does it hold quite a few people it also has a persistant world. Usually games with persistant worlds require money for things like servers, bandwidth, etc.
We don't know if the business model for a large persistant world with no monthly fees (and no items shops, etc) will work yet. Just because they say it will (and we've seen a lot of game devs say things) doesn't mean that it will be successful.
And lastly, all game companies are companies. It boggles the mind that I read stuff like this but it's as if all of you think that these game devs are working out of their garages making AAA titles and doing it for the love of it.
Well, it's also a job and most people who have jobs like the idea of working in a stable company with benefits of some sort.
So it is important to work at something you love and it is important to do good work but it's also important to stay in business. You can put out the greatest game in the world and if you can't sustain yourself then what's the point?
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I don't blame you, I have statistics now and if this game doesn't pass 1 million, I'm not going to touch it, it's that simple because not only is this game disapointing but there's some serious problems with it, so just waiting for it to pass 1 million because I enjoy plyaing it but it's like LOTRO, pointless
As of right now Guild Wars has 5 million accounts, you can go into any zone in the PVP areas any time of night and find hundreds of people playing. Guild Wars has Guild Versus Guild which is very popular also. And like I said Guild Wars 2 is coming out next year, with high customization features (take notice mythic), Persistent world, so everyone can shut up with the "its not an MMORPG", Higher level cap, and best of all Free to Play, yes Free to Play EA, say it with me F.R.E.E. T.O. P.L.A.Y. I bet all EA executives cringe at the sound of those 3 words, dam losers.
The quality of the people in Guild Wars is piss poor and that's typically what you get with free to play games, but if that's your thing, by all means, go back.
As far as your other issues, sounds like you picked a crappy server. Many servers are pretty balanced (see warlytics.com) and your issues with classes is all based on opinion. Say it with me. OPINION.
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Been through this before. Pre-orders had plenty of time to cancel.
Everyone else.. well what do you want mythic to do? They talk about ideas and then find that they cant provide them for release. They make a public announcement .. way before release (not after like Funcom). What is so dishonest and terrible about that? Its not mythics fault if people dont register to newsletters etc..
to be honest tho. anyone who wasn't following the game to be aware of the cuts.. probably wasnt aware of the cut features in the first place. No loss.
There's nothing particularly commendable about it either though. And i also disagree with the last. You read up on a game, read it's features and think "cool "" I'm getting that one, and you preorder it. At that point it's features not delivered for anyone not aware of the cuts no matter how short/long the time they had to cancel.
Do I agree with you that what actually is in release is what they said shortly before in game was there? Sure ... but what's the point in mentioning that then?
I could release a game tomorrow and deliver 1/5th of what I promised a year ago, but it's ok, since I'm warning you today. Great, now you tell people tomorrow I delivered on all the content I said was gonna be at release.
That's what you did, and with the way you think on it, the argument itself has become meaningless, not a worthy praise.
I am not commending their actions and am giving no praise. They have acted appropriately. However, you are complaining - and I am saying your complaint is unjust.
You argument falls flat for one reason. You are under the misguided impression that because a developer talks about features during development.. it means they are making promises about what will be in at release.
So now youre going to find some quote of a dev stating that x will be in game. Dont bother. Devs can hardly talk about their game during development in terms of.. this might be in.. this might be in.. it wont sound good.
It should be incredibly obvious to anyone that devs can only talk about their intentions until close to release. If you think they made promises.. you only have yourself to blame for your current dissapointment.
For a game thats been live not even 2 months its in great shape imo. If you look at all the games that have been out for years now they are STILL trying to tweak and adjust just as WAR is doing as well. I agree with you on EA having crap standards in general but to be so angry at a game that hasnt had 3 to 5 months live is just dumb. Come back in a few months see if they have fixed the shit you dont like instead of going on these insane rants. There have been a TON Of games that have been just horrible compared to WAR. I didnt play GW when it was first released but i bet any kind of money they had to tweak and fix and do this and that to make it into the great game it is today. Anyways take a breather play some consle games;P i whipped out old FFT for my playstation and am having a blast again:P
Last time I read about GW2 it was going to have less instancing not a full persistant world.
A few maps youll be able to see and play with other players not the whole game. Thats why they said there adding persistant "areas". Plus itll just be like the citys except monsters in them. And it wont be the majority of the maps.
You are a dirty troll...and the post I quoted proves it.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
I also believe that GW2 will be more succesful than WAR (or most other games for that matter, only competition I know about will be Biowares upcomming game.
But war can still be saved, no problem. If Mythic really works hard it can be good in 6 months, it is not that bad but needs polishing and more content. EA however is dangerous, if they are not happy they might cancel it like Sims online. But I still believe that they can make it a good game, even though I doubt it will be beating Guildwars 2, Arenanet got 3 of the worlds best programmers.
Arena Net has proven that F2P does work, and for that they releas excellent content, there classes are not just one class but Multi-classes, you can multi class and have 2 classes in one , with a primary. IMO there is no way EA can counter Guild Wars 2 coming out next year. They are making a lot of noise with their Persistent world model, and high customization features...mounts and all other good stuff....the key here is F2P something EA just cringes at. This will destroy Warhammer, because essentially thats what War is a PVP game and Guild Wars OWNS PVP. I can only see Guild wars PVP getting much better after being experienced in the PVP mechanics for well over 4 years.....I play GW just about every other day and everyone is levelng their characters to take them over to GW2, literally hundreds of servers with thousands of subs....many companies are overlooking GW2 but it's gonna cost them some money.
EA has no problem, no problem at all with shutting down WAR if it dips even a notch below the losing spectrum...WHY? because EA is a Company more than a GAme producer and their strategy is make money not gamers happy.....sure you guys want small servers with only the faithful on it like MATRIX, don't count on it, EA will shut that shit down, caus they don't care......GL
I play GW just about every other day and everyone is levelng their characters to take them over to GW2, literally hundreds of servers with thousands of subs....many companies are overlooking GW2 but it's gonna cost them some money.
This particulare statement in bold yoiu mention that you can take your charcter from GW to GW2. Well based on the info directly from the GW2 FAQ that is an incorrect statement. Please read:
"Can I play my original Guild Wars character in Guild Wars 2?"
"Because Guild Wars 2 is a whole new game with different professions and races, new technology, and expanded gameplay, it would not be possible to directly use an original Guild Wars character.
However, your original Guild Wars character names will be reserved for your use in Guild Wars 2. In addition, Guild Wars 2 recognizes the accomplishments commemorated by your original Guild Wars characters in the Hall of Monuments and provides you with unique rewards to showcase those achievements."
Please visit the following site for more info:
http://www.guildwars.com/products/guildwars2/gw2faq/
I also believe that GW2 will be more succesful than WAR (or most other games for that matter, only competition I know about will be Biowares upcomming game.
But war can still be saved, no problem. If Mythic really works hard it can be good in 6 months, it is not that bad but needs polishing and more content. EA however is dangerous, if they are not happy they might cancel it like Sims online. But I still believe that they can make it a good game, even though I doubt it will be beating Guildwars 2, Arenanet got 3 of the worlds best programmers.
Arena Net has proven that F2P does work, and for that they releas excellent content, there classes are not just one class but Multi-classes, you can multi class and have 2 classes in one , with a primary. IMO there is no way EA can counter Guild Wars 2 coming out next year. They are making a lot of noise with their Persistent world model, and high customization features...mounts and all other good stuff....the key here is F2P something EA just cringes at. This will destroy Warhammer, because essentially thats what War is a PVP game and Guild Wars OWNS PVP. I can only see Guild wars PVP getting much better after being experienced in the PVP mechanics for well over 4 years.....I play GW just about every other day and everyone is levelng their characters to take them over to GW2, literally hundreds of servers with thousands of subs....many companies are overlooking GW2 but it's gonna cost them some money.
EA has no problem, no problem at all with shutting down WAR if it dips even a notch below the losing spectrum...WHY? because EA is a Company more than a GAme producer and their strategy is make money not gamers happy.....sure you guys want small servers with only the faithful on it like MATRIX, don't count on it, EA will shut that shit down, caus they don't care......GL
Well, first of all, GW is mostly instanced so "sure" free to play works with mostly instanced content. And small instances.
Warhammer does have instanced content but not only does it hold quite a few people it also has a persistant world. Usually games with persistant worlds require money for things like servers, bandwidth, etc.
We don't know if the business model for a large persistant world with no monthly fees (and no items shops, etc) will work yet. Just because they say it will (and we've seen a lot of game devs say things) doesn't mean that it will be successful.
And lastly, all game companies are companies. It boggles the mind that I read stuff like this but it's as if all of you think that these game devs are working out of their garages making AAA titles and doing it for the love of it.
Well, it's also a job and most people who have jobs like the idea of working in a stable company with benefits of some sort.
So it is important to work at something you love and it is important to do good work but it's also important to stay in business. You can put out the greatest game in the world and if you can't sustain yourself then what's the point?
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I don't blame you, I have statistics now and if this game doesn't pass 1 million, I'm not going to touch it, it's that simple because not only is this game disapointing but there's some serious problems with it, so just waiting for it to pass 1 million because I enjoy plyaing it but it's like LOTRO, pointless
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The quality of the people in Guild Wars is piss poor and that's typically what you get with free to play games, but if that's your thing, by all means, go back.
As far as your other issues, sounds like you picked a crappy server. Many servers are pretty balanced (see warlytics.com) and your issues with classes is all based on opinion. Say it with me. OPINION.