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WoW makes a big mistake with WotLK Event

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  • BlodplsBlodpls Member Posts: 1,454

    I read this on the WoW forum:

    "All i hear is QQ but all i see is the que for my server getting longer, I think this alone proves my point"

    Response to this seems to be mixed but a lot of people clearly love it.

     

  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,846
    Originally posted by Wickersham


    No one will quit over it.
    The fact that WoW is level based is glaring during this event.  Low level players can't take part in the event because they are one shot killed both as a PC and as a PC zombie.  They can't hurt zombies that are levels above them because they miss with every shot.
    What's fun about that?
    Either lowbies should be made into level 70 zombies so at least they can have fun and take part in the event as a zombie or Blizzard should of made a special zombie level where they do a % of damage to the HP of whoever they attack and are hurt by a % of damage when they get attacked all based on the level of the person they are attacking or getting attacked by.  So a low level mage hits a zombie for the same damage as a high level mage.
    It's a really great idea for an event but they are leaving some players on the sidelines and that's a big mistake.



     

    Yep.  The exact issue is that people are trying to level something prior to wotlk.  Now they can't do that due to the "event".

    If you are level 70 and bored its awesome.

    If you are new or just trying to level.. not so much.

    I also kind of don't get the "when they try something new.. people cry" bs.  When a level 70 attacks a level 10 there isn't anything that is going to happen.. other than the level 10 dies.

    New is awesome if you can actually take part or even choose to not take part.

    Its also amazing the number of level 70 players that are going out to specific "hot spots" to kill every quest related npc and/or gryphon master they can.

    I spent most of last night killing any high level zombie I saw in certain low level quest areas.  So ya it was fun.. but all the low levels that couldn't get crap done and were dying instantly... probably not so much fun.

    When you had the pk/anti pk wars in Ultima Online... you didn't have to worry about the level difference.. so anyone that wanted to take part.. could. (uo had no levels if you never played it).

  • BraavosiBraavosi Member Posts: 149

    Need more events like this one, stop WHINING this is GOOD wtf carebears are everywhere!!!!!!! WAHHH LOL LOL

     

     

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  • RekindleRekindle Member UncommonPosts: 1,206

    hey mods this is a WoW thread it should be moved to the wow forums. You wont allow other games of lesser presige to be posted here can we move this one too?

  • fischsemmelfischsemmel Member UncommonPosts: 364

    I see a lot of people complaining about this. They do it here, on the Blizzard forums, in game, even my own guildies are whining about how they die every time they go to ironforge or stormwind.

     

    And yeah, maybe Blizzard overdid it.

     

    But guess what? When something like this is going on, anyone who has reached 70 should know better than to go to stormwind or ironforge or shat and expect everything to be business as usual. Even if Blizzard overdid the even, you are ASKING for it by going to these cities.

     

    Darnassus is relatively quiet, and Exodar is a ghost-town like always - not a zombie in sight. Queue from these cities. Visit the AH and bank in these cities. It's not THAT big of a deal.

  • wozzuwozzu Member Posts: 109


    Originally posted by Alekhin
    Not sure how many players are going to quit but it's going to make a dent..

    A year from now, everyone will be bragging about how they were there for the big zombie event.

    My wife is ultra casual. She hangs out with her friends and they mostly chat. I think they have made about a dozen levels between them over the last two years.

    The zombie even was the most exciting thing htat has happened to that bunch. They say they hate it, but I think they are having fun.

    I got changed into a zombie and I chased them around, saying I was going to infect them. It was fun.

  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827
    Originally posted by FreddyNoNose

    Originally posted by Alekhin


    Not sure how many players are going to quit but it's going to make a dent.
    What happened is players and npc's were turning into zombies. Orgrimmar got infected so much on the server I play on that you couldn't even run to the Flight Path without turning into a zombie and dieing. It's kind of funny in a way because there are dead skeleton corpses everywhere. The only pace I could find solace was in Silvermoon City. It hasn't been infected much at all.
    I wonder if Blizzard really knew what was going to happen. But the game is mostly unplayable now until the event goes away.



     

    Do you honestly believe that when someone posts on a game forum about quiting a game that they actually quit?  Trust what people do more than what they say.

    IMO, this event has been fun.  It also adds something different, which is a nice break.  Like taking a walk outside it's refreshing.

     For the folks out there asking for innovation or other new fun stuff in games, it's people complaining about events above who ruin chances for this coming to your local and/or future games.



     

    History of wow from day one is whining nothing new here:P

    Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
    In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775

    It is annoying as hell for the low level char. But it is not too bad for shat ...

     

    For my L70 toon, i just stay on the flyer and only come down when i need to. Lots of players are doing that.

    It is also an exaggeration that all NPCs are dead ... u can find them up from time to time to do stuff.

    AH is the real annoying part. I have a L3 auction alt and this is the first time he has been killed. Very very annoying.

  • metr0manmetr0man Member Posts: 8

    I heavily disagree with the original poster.

     

    The 1 or 2 days that real mayhem broke out was BY FAR the best time in WoW I've ever had.

     

    BY FAR.

     

    It felt like a real war. It was an absolute blast, fighting off armies of zombies, screaming for zombie poison cleansings, or on the other side of the equation, raising a zombie army to bring a town to its knees. I can see how someone level 20 would have hated it though. It felt like I was on the front lines. There were even sadistic bastards and zombie-plague-suicide-bombing the auction houses. It was insanity! Like living in a fantasy-warp of what it must be like in Iraq or Israel or Palestine. WOW!

     

    For one shining day, WoW was actually DYNAMIC, PERSISTENT, and driven by PLAYER ACTION.

     

    Then all the players started whining that they couldn't finish their "Kill 20 boars!" quests.



    Anyone who is upset about the lack of sandbox dynamic play in modern MMOs should just look at the reaction by the WoW faithful. They wanted their precious auction houses and their precous quest NPCs.

     

    (by the way the "i'm cancelling" folks are mostly lairs, they know very well it was going to be over in a few days).

  • SpoofisSpoofis Member Posts: 27

    Nothing ever happens in WoW, I'm sooooo bored!

    Ewwwwww! Something is happening! Turn it off!

  • Zayne3145Zayne3145 Member Posts: 1,448
    Originally posted by Spoofis


    Nothing ever happens in WoW, I'm sooooo bored!
    Ewwwwww! Something is happening! Turn it off!

     

    LOL! 

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  • SharajatSharajat Member Posts: 926
    Originally posted by metr0man 
    For one shining day, WoW was actually DYNAMIC, PERSISTENT, and driven by PLAYER ACTION.
     
    Then all the players started whining that they couldn't finish their "Kill 20 boars!" quests.


    Anyone who is upset about the lack of sandbox dynamic play in modern MMOs should just look at the reaction by the WoW faithful. They wanted their precious auction houses and their precous quest NPCs.

     

    Yeah.  Somehow I think Blizzard is starting a new MMO just to see if they can do something interesting with MMOs without having to deal with their damn playerbase.  Sometimes you just have to wonder if they are being held back by their own players. 

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    -Thomas Jefferson

  • WoWIsDaBestWoWIsDaBest Member Posts: 4

    This event rocks, that's all I can say.  Kudos to you Blizzard, you did it again!

    If it ain't WoW, it ain't worth playin'

  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524

    What hypocrisy mmorpg.com staff...


    see this thread.


    Where is it at? general discussion right?


    And the thread I just made in response to this thread that was in general is now in the WoW forums...thanks to you.


    The difference?

    I see none.

    Bad show.

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  • PatchDayPatchDay Member Posts: 1,641

    This event sounds really awesome too me. I'm going to have to sub to check this out

     

    Finally, WoW has changed! Wish they would run events more often

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Originally posted by metr0man


    I heavily disagree with the original poster.
     
    The 1 or 2 days that real mayhem broke out was BY FAR the best time in WoW I've ever had.
     
    BY FAR.
     
    It felt like a real war. It was an absolute blast, fighting off armies of zombies, screaming for zombie poison cleansings, or on the other side of the equation, raising a zombie army to bring a town to its knees. I can see how someone level 20 would have hated it though. It felt like I was on the front lines. There were even sadistic bastards and zombie-plague-suicide-bombing the auction houses. It was insanity! Like living in a fantasy-warp of what it must be like in Iraq or Israel or Palestine. WOW!
     
    For one shining day, WoW was actually DYNAMIC, PERSISTENT, and driven by PLAYER ACTION.
     
    Then all the players started whining that they couldn't finish their "Kill 20 boars!" quests.


    Anyone who is upset about the lack of sandbox dynamic play in modern MMOs should just look at the reaction by the WoW faithful. They wanted their precious auction houses and their precous quest NPCs.
     
    (by the way the "i'm cancelling" folks are mostly lairs, they know very well it was going to be over in a few days).



     

    I'm not exactly clear what this event is, but from what you are writing it seems very similar to an event or even set of events that were done in Lineage 2 where NPC mobs, some very powerful, attacked players. Whole towns would get together to fight them off and even if the players died they had a lot of fun (myself included).

    If indeed this is the event then I can't understand why players would be crying. So what if you are decimated, it's not like you will be permanently destroyed. I'll have to read up on this event.

    but if that is indeed the event then players need to toughen up. It's part of the fun.

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  • WickershamWickersham Member UncommonPosts: 2,379
    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by metr0man


    I heavily disagree with the original poster.
     
    The 1 or 2 days that real mayhem broke out was BY FAR the best time in WoW I've ever had.
     
    BY FAR.
     
    It felt like a real war. It was an absolute blast, fighting off armies of zombies, screaming for zombie poison cleansings, or on the other side of the equation, raising a zombie army to bring a town to its knees. I can see how someone level 20 would have hated it though. It felt like I was on the front lines. There were even sadistic bastards and zombie-plague-suicide-bombing the auction houses. It was insanity! Like living in a fantasy-warp of what it must be like in Iraq or Israel or Palestine. WOW!
     
    For one shining day, WoW was actually DYNAMIC, PERSISTENT, and driven by PLAYER ACTION.
     
    Then all the players started whining that they couldn't finish their "Kill 20 boars!" quests.


    Anyone who is upset about the lack of sandbox dynamic play in modern MMOs should just look at the reaction by the WoW faithful. They wanted their precious auction houses and their precous quest NPCs.
     
    (by the way the "i'm cancelling" folks are mostly lairs, they know very well it was going to be over in a few days).



     

    I'm not exactly clear what this event is, but from what you are writing it seems very similar to an event or even set of events that were done in Lineage 2 where NPC mobs, some very powerful, attacked players. Whole towns would get together to fight them off and even if the players died they had a lot of fun (myself included).

    If indeed this is the event then I can't understand why players would be crying. So what if you are decimated, it's not like you will be permanently destroyed. I'll have to read up on this event.

    but if that is indeed the event then players need to toughen up. It's part of the fun.

    It was a great idea:

     

    A player opens up a crate in a city and gets a disease that turns them into a zombie if they don't get it cured fast enough...  When they become a zombie they get to walk around and attack other players and NPCs.  Those players and NPCs contract the disease by getting contact from zombies.  The Zombie player gets a an automatic DoT while a zombie and can only heal it up when they do damage to others.  If they don't heal(attack) they die.  You have 5 specials - one that is a basic attack that does damage and reduces enemy armor, one that allows you an AOE snare to slow down your prey, one that allows you a burst of speed, one that calls zombies to your area, and one that allows you to explode and give everyone around you the disease.  If you die with the disease you become a zombie.  Lots of fun right?

    Here is the problem:

    The game is level based and the zombies were level based too!!!!  High level players went to lowbie zones and start to pwn low level players.  And when they got bored of doing it the NPC guards in the towns would take over which would basically close down the town (towns are quest hubs in WoW).

    If the game was skill based it would of been a fantastic event, but because it's level based some people were left on the sidelines and/or victimized by other players.

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  • metr0manmetr0man Member Posts: 8
    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by metr0man



    I'm not exactly clear what this event is, but from what you are writing it seems very similar to an event or even set of events that were done in Lineage 2 where NPC mobs, some very powerful, attacked players. Whole towns would get together to fight them off and even if the players died they had a lot of fun (myself included).

    If indeed this is the event then I can't understand why players would be crying. So what if you are decimated, it's not like you will be permanently destroyed. I'll have to read up on this event.

    but if that is indeed the event then players need to toughen up. It's part of the fun.

     

    It is similar to what you described, with one added component.

    Players could contract the disease, turn into Zombies, and infect other NPCs and other players with the disease, turning THEM into zombies. Each day it got worse (and by worse I mean better), the infection period went from 10 mins, to 5 mins to 2 mins finally to 1 min, just as the amount of "disease healer" NPCs decreased. In some ways the invasion was DRIVEN by the players. At the end, most of the time I was fighting off zombies in Stormwind (major alliance city), then when I got turned I would play the invading force. It was complete mayhem on Sunday, some people were attacking smaller towns, turning NPCs into zombies, going to a town, turning two guards into zombies, who each turned two more guards into zombies who each turned two more.... before long the entire town was like Resident Evil, zombies shuffling left and right eating anything in sight.

     

    It was phenomenal, unlike anything I'd ever seen in WoW or other MMOs. A lot of the negative reaction has left me very disillusioned with the fanbase.

  • OrthedosOrthedos Member Posts: 1,771
    Originally posted by metr0man

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by metr0man



    I'm not exactly clear what this event is, but from what you are writing it seems very similar to an event or even set of events that were done in Lineage 2 where NPC mobs, some very powerful, attacked players. Whole towns would get together to fight them off and even if the players died they had a lot of fun (myself included).

    If indeed this is the event then I can't understand why players would be crying. So what if you are decimated, it's not like you will be permanently destroyed. I'll have to read up on this event.

    but if that is indeed the event then players need to toughen up. It's part of the fun.

     

    It is similar to what you described, with one added component.

    Players could contract the disease, turn into Zombies, and infect other NPCs and other players with the disease, turning THEM into zombies. Each day it got worse (and by worse I mean better), the infection period went from 10 mins, to 5 mins to 2 mins finally to 1 min, just as the amount of "disease healer" NPCs decreased. In some ways the invasion was DRIVEN by the players. At the end, most of the time I was fighting off zombies in Stormwind (major alliance city), then when I got turned I would play the invading force. It was complete mayhem on Sunday, some people were attacking smaller towns, turning NPCs into zombies, going to a town, turning two guards into zombies, who each turned two more guards into zombies who each turned two more.... before long the entire town was like Resident Evil, zombies shuffling left and right eating anything in sight.

     

    It was phenomenal, unlike anything I'd ever seen in WoW or other MMOs. A lot of the negative reaction has left me very disillusioned with the fanbase.

     

    It was not exactly a bad idea but the way it was implemented was less than perfect.  It does lead to a lot of unwelcome harassment, notably in the newbie zones.

    Its good if someone loves it, its not good when someone who loves it can use it as a means to harass others who expressly does not want to be part of it.  Much like the loathed FFA PVP, much like the griefers.

  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827

    Lol sissy's cry baby's cry:P

    Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
    In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

  • KrelnorKrelnor Member Posts: 118

     I can't wait till the event is over...

  • ScalebaneScalebane Member UncommonPosts: 1,883

    the zombie event was over yesterday, but the pre wrath events aren't over yet, just the infections part

     

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  • DeeweDeewe Member UncommonPosts: 1,980

    Not playing anymore but this event looks like very fun to me.

    Like the bug at launch... ;)

  • SpoofisSpoofis Member Posts: 27

    youtube video

    Heya Tom, it's Bob,
    From the office down the hall.
    It's good to see you buddy,
    How've ya been?
    Things have been okay for me,
    Except that I'm a zombie now.
    I really wish you'd let us in.
    I think I speak for all of us when I say I understand
    Why you folks might hesitate to submit to our demands,
    But here's an FYI - you're all gonna die, screaming.

    All we wanna do is eat your brains
    Were not unreasonable,
    I mean no-one's gonna eat your eyes
    All we wanna do is eat your brains
    Were at an impasse here,
    Maybe we should compromise.
    If you open up the door,
    We'll all come inside and eat your brains.

    I don't wanna nitpick Tom, but is this really your plan -
    Spend your whole life locked inside a mall?
    Maybe that's okay for now,
    But someday you'll be out of food and guns,
    And you'll have to make the call.
    I'm not surprised to see you haven't thought it through enough -
    You never had the head for all that 'bigger picture' stuff.
    But Tom, that's what I do,
    And I plan on eating you, slowly.

  • WickershamWickersham Member UncommonPosts: 2,379
    Originally posted by Evasia


    Lol sissy's cry baby's cry:P



     

    If a grown man walks into a pre-school and starts beating up toddlers where would your sympathies be?

    WoW is not Darkfall.  WoW is not EVE.  WoW is not pre-trammel UO.

    WoW does not have the systems in place to prevent low level player characters (new players) from being PK'd.  WoW is a level based game.  WoW is a gear based game.  WoW is a zone based game.  WoW has many limitations to it when you decide to create an event like this.

    If the developer doesn't seem to grasp the nature of the game that they are developing then players have the right to express ire.

    It was a great idea but it was the wrong type of game.

    I don't know why you people have such a hard time grasping this.

    "The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"

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