i have already dissolved the 50+ gold and over 50 beryl shards i amassed in playing this game for just over 2 months amongst former guildies but i have to say.... that isnt a AA community, its more like AARP community. the peeps i met playing this game mostly needed a party to wipe their own asses (though truthfully there were VERY few kiddies). no exaggeration, i saw people looking for parties that involved running across town. couldnt even read the INCREDIBLY easy to understand quest log, they just got the quest and started spamming for parties. the game does keep trudging along, ill give them credit in that but i hit cap on 3.90 characters (champ, loremaster, hunter, and nearly cap) and the game just doesnt have that much to offer (woo hoo fishing!::sarcasm::). what am i expected to cap each class despite the fact that i hate playing it? the way i play just isnt viable in this game, its for softies, ladies, maybe good for newbies. the most fun i had (because i found rift runs to be just over nerded "we have to do this this way" 30 min. monolouges by someone who supposedly knew what they were talking about {{watched a video on youtube}}) was stealing those beryl shards from the [i cant use the word to describe people that camp things like this] that were camping for them while i was gathering crafting resources. it just isnt a solid game, i personally feel anyone would be better off waiting until next year and trying some of the next few games to launch. i will never be playing this game again because even if they do another years worth of content it will only take me about a week to play through it (including pvp ranks, which alot of [again cant use the word] cheat at getting). i gave away all my shit because i knew i wouldnt be back, it isnt keeping me from going back. met some real nice people (and taught them to use vent) but this scene IS for what i will just call the "slowbies".
Also this is one of the top reason why LotrO is such a great game! It doesnt cater to this type of players^^
So if you play MMOs to have fun and socialice with nice people then LotrO is for you... If you play to be uber 1337 then there is better games for you to play...
I agree.
I'm sorry megafluxmega but quite frankly, your post is needlessly dismissive and rather assuming.
I could easily accept you saying that your playing style doesn't fit the game. That at least was mature and made sense.
But this whole idea that it's for ladies and noobs and you can't wait to play dress up? Please. You can't be more than 12 or a complete jughead with comments like that. It implies some sort of toughness or manliness in playing video games that is just not there. I"m sorry but you could be the definitive male icon but from what I've seen for online game players they just don't impress me as being "that' and range from stringy, looking like 12 year olds, unkempt in many cases, having a bit too much padding and in some cases bordering on the obese or just plain average.
And yet your language seems to paint you as some sort of man's man (will you even understand what that means? could be an antiquated saying by now) who eschews anything that is not hardcore.
So "yes' lotro is more than leveling and it's obvious you haven't realized that. No worries, ,as you intitially said, it doesn't fit your playing style and there's nothing wrong with that.
But to go beyond that with your statements seems to be a bit 2 dimensional at best.
pretentious much?
if i put time into a game i expect to feel some sort of ..i guess achievement from it. i just blew the hinges off this one.
i'm also not some lore nazi, and honestly i dont even think the books are THAT great, people say everyone steals from tolkien, i find that he stole from shakespeare. so yea being that i am not DRESSING UP like anything to attend nerdcon 2009 i may not be the ideal person to play this game. but when i play ANY game pretty much the last thing i care about is how my gear looks, naturally i would rather it looked neat, but i am not about to go grind rep so i can have a COSMETIC set of armor. that is what i see in this game. ALOT of people running pointless quests for rep to get "pretty" armor.
the game IS for slowbies (and lore nerds)! if ANY not even hard core, but moderately dedicated player plays it they will blow through it. now sure it might be nice for families to all play together (and i HAVE IN FACT played with great grandmothers). but to people looking for a game that you feel you have accomplished something in, this is the worst case scenario. you cap, get pimp gear, and say now what? maybe ill go to the moors and grind to rank 10? i mean really. oh yay, i get to go kill trolls for 3.5 hours to complete a deed. better yet ill go fishing so i can hang fish all over my wall. if it doesnt make my character stronger, faster, in any way better i just dont care about it or count is as content, the only reason i had houses was to store all the useless crap i had amassed.
cater to me? this game couldnt keep up with me if the whole team was trying to, they are bound by the lore! of the 10 people i jumped into this game with i was the last to leave, everyone else capped once and stopped. it isnt like i didnt give it a chance, there is just not much there.
you go ahead and push the hype about how great this game is (for whatever reason, dunno maybe you people are just lonely) but people who fall for it will find out that at the end of the day there really isnt much there. 4 starting points , yay.. by level 20 you are on 1 of 2 maps (like 12 hous later if you stop to admire the view alot). at level 30 everyone is on 1 of 2 maps (though 35 really is the time to jump). all the rest of the way its 1 of 2 maps, that REALLY isnt much variety. sure its pretty, but that can only take it so far. its boring and repetitive (joy kill 150 of these now 300 of those). where the hell does that come off as first class?
yea i am hard core (in the oldest sense of the word), and sure im a man for all seasons (even though i did play a hunter), but that does not eliminate me from having an opinion. it would be false representation if threads like this were allowed to be circle jerks of "what a great game" this is.
So you play 4 toons to the level cap on a game you don't like (in 2 months... i didn't know that was possible in such a short time). That's how many hundreds of hours? What do you do with games that you do like??
i leveled the hunter for my daughter, the LM for the guild, the champ seemed like an obvious choice, and the cap was pretty much the end of the rope since i didnt really want to stop. as anyone that knows the game at all knows the power levelers can do it in 10 days, wtf makes you think someone who knows mmo's cant do it faster? IT ISNT EVEN HARD!
areb: yea it is just a stupid sequencing pvm game, fact is ill destroy ANY game put in front of me if i play it. this is another reason i dont pvp in mmorpg's much, its just gay. come see me in unreal then talk shit. from staying awake for days to having gm's ask me if im a bot, i go big or i dont go. it is borderline mechanical, and i use every advantage afforded me and i dont respond to players in game except to blacklist morons. dont buy gold or power leveling (why would i need to?) dont cheat EVER, dont ks, and dont take no guff from no swine.
yea it is just a game after all, some of us dont play them to suck at them though.
side note:i DONT like many games these days. just as much content as its contemporaries...try playing some of its contemporaries!
No point in feeding someone this blind to other opinions. Well, at least age itself won't make someone mature, to say the least....
The player who loves LOTRO most often does not live in the delusion that the game needs to be "won". In this sense, the "endgame" (always hated this sick term), is not the reason someone will love LOTRO for. It can be played very casually (I almost missed 2 months due to changing jobs, flat, girlfriend), but i can always come back and have a good time. Anytime! I never feel I am "behind" or missed anything.
Here is MY OWN opinion: Someone who caps a player in 8 days in ANY game will probably never like any game, because he/she misses the whole point in ANY game: The fun. It pays well to read the quest texts, to just *be part of* the story, to have some immersion. Take the time, look around, enjoy the scenery or even the sunset.... why hurry? WHERE to hurry? Who would be the developer who can keep up with such an insane tempo? That is not going to happen to any game, since this kind of player is a tiny tad little minority now. They could have been the vast majority in the EQ and UO era, but that is no more. Even the majority of those old-time-hardcore people now have a life, and won't play 12+ hours per day (which is a BARE minimum to cap a toon in less than 10 days, even in LOTRO).
Having said that, I have totally NO problems with someone spending the bigger part of life trying to *beat* a game and then complaining about its lack of content. I will not say anything bad about them as I don't feel anything in common with them. Each to their own, some might say.
Dear megafluxmega, it would probably be worthy to try read slowly and understand what I mean - by calling people with different playstyle "idiots" and "slowbies", you are being very immature. No wonder people were (rightly) assuming you're 12. Your posts make you look like that.... they are very aggressive condescending, judgemental, elitist, and just plainly - childish. Sorry.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
1. My reasons I enjoy playing are not necessarily reasons you'll want to come back -- the main reason I state this is you didn't elaborate much on what made you leave except you got sick of soloing (totally understand) and had trouble finding groups on a MINSTREL? hehe I find that hard to believe but it could have been servor population -- I played a minstrel from open beta and never had an issue finding fellowships.
2. I totally agree with what has been said regarding the game not changing much -- I have found most folks who didn't enjoy the gameplay didn't enjoy it any better on a return visit. This may change with Moria as they are changing some underlying things with gameplay but not sure how obvious those changes will be.
3. hardcore vs casual -- old school vs new. Interesting points -- I will only add this. I raided extensively in Everquest for about 6 years -- I play LOTRO a lot and am part of an active kinship that has participated in every raid the game has to offer numerous times. I personally find the scripts in the top content in this game to be harder to figure out than Everquest (the ultimate in tank and spank) but do get a bit repetitive. Yes they've spent an awful lot of time on housing and cosmetic gear and fishing to appease the RP community but the end game content has been very fun and dynamic IMO. I find no less a sense of accomplishment in this game then I did playing Everquest. I'm honestly not sure what all the *this game is not hardcore enough* fuss is about -- this is coming from someone who plays MMO's in what would be considered a *hardcore* fashion. I totally agree with the responses that had substance stating that LOTRO is about the story line and immersion in to it -- that is what propels this game forward for me. Some of the most creative quest story lines I've seen in any MMO. I can see that for someone who only cares about the carrot dangling at the victory line and not enjoying the process they may get *bored* but personally I've not felt bored and have felt accomplishments in the build I've fine tuned on my character. There is also no more grinding in this game than any other the deeds just give a *purpose* to it.
Remembered one other detail -- as far as the lore restricting development goes I"ll give you some actual examples from probably the two biggest parts of the content for players:
1. The Rift -- this 12 man raid zone was totally invented for LOTRO -- it has no basis in lore nor does it pretend to. It's a great story derived from what *could have* been but never actually was in any of the books. However -- it feels totally immersive and fits Middle Earth very well and *adds to* the story imho.
2. The book series or epic series of quests -- there are 14 books released at this point in game that take you on a story line that supposedly is going on while the fellowship is going through their ordeal that again is totally made up. It uses some real middle earth characters some made up etc but it's Turbine's twist on events surrounding the fellowship of the ring that *could* be going on but were never actually in the book. Again it feels very immersive and fits Middle Earth very well.
They have taken great pains to make the maps be very detail oriented and extremely accurate when compared to the books. The shire, and breelands and lonelands are remarkable -- right down to if you watch the in game clock it takes a full day and night to journey on foot from Bree to the Forsaken Inn -- sheer brilliance!!!
In other words the world is extremely accurate -- they have introducted lore accurate content but have taken liberties to expand on happennings and invent strories of their own within middle earth. Just like awesome role players would do -- and imho this game sports the best RP community (I'm on an RP servor) I've seen since pre Kunark Everquest.
One thing also to note is that LOTRO is far far more lore consistant and accurate than the movies which were a total abomination to lore. Not saying the movies were bad -- they were just grossly inaccurate interpretations of the actual book content. I thoroughly enjoyed them myself (an uncanny portrayal of the mind's eye while reading the books) and they are another great example of how you can take the LOTR story and world and use it to inspire something awesome. This game is yet another example AND it actually has lore accurate content!!! Again sheer brilliance imho.
For me personally I find gameplay in most MMO's to be very very similar -- they all have their finer details that make them different slightly (LOTRO included) but in the end once you've played one MMO you pretty much can make your way in any other at this point. What makes a game truely immersive is it's story line and feeling like i"M part of a world of excitement and this game has this in spades!!! I'm not on some mindless quest for better gear and better stats than the next guy I'm experiencing an unfolding story line that to me is incredibly cool!
pretentious much? My taste might be considered pretentious at times (and low brow at other times) but I'm generally accepting of what other people want to do. If anything your post came off as being pretentious and elitist and dismissive and not accepting of what others might consider valuable. if i put time into a game i expect to feel some sort of ..i guess achievement from it. i just blew the hinges off this one. That's great and no reason that you shouldn't feel that or have to like somethign that you don't. But your post came off as elitist and insulting to those who might like this type of game when there are many reason one might like this game. Remember, just because you have your reasons to dislike it others might actually find value in those same things. i'm also not some lore nazi, and honestly i dont even think the books are THAT great, people say everyone steals from tolkien, i find that he stole from shakespeare. Oh do you? Please go on. I am not a Shakespeare Scholar but I am quite familiar with his work. So if you have something to share on this subject I would be more than interested to hear. It would also paint you in a better light than someone who is just about leveling as you come across as being two dimensional and perhaps that is not the case? so yea being that i am not DRESSING UP like anything to attend nerdcon 2009 i may not be the ideal person to play this game. but when i play ANY game pretty much the last thing i care about is how my gear looks, naturally i would rather it looked neat, but i am not about to go grind rep so i can have a COSMETIC set of armor. that is what i see in this game. ALOT of people running pointless quests for rep to get "pretty" armor. Again, great but one doesn't have to be a nerd to enjoy something or to desire that something is true to itself. Apparently somehow you missed that one in class. It is ok to enjoy things that are lowbrow and it is also ok to enjoy things that are highbrow. And it is ok for something to be true to its source and have appropriate content. the game IS for slowbies (and lore nerds)! if ANY not even hard core, but moderately dedicated player plays it they will blow through it. now sure it might be nice for families to all play together (and i HAVE IN FACT played with great grandmothers). but to people looking for a game that you feel you have accomplished something in, this is the worst case scenario. you cap, get pimp gear, and say now what? maybe ill go to the moors and grind to rank 10? i mean really. oh yay, i get to go kill trolls for 3.5 hours to complete a deed. better yet ill go fishing so i can hang fish all over my wall. if it doesnt make my character stronger, faster, in any way better i just dont care about it or count is as content, the only reason i had houses was to store all the useless crap i had amassed. Where is it written in stone that if a game is made with more leisurely paced gameplay or is true to it's source then that's bad? Bad for you and sure, why not but not inherently bad. The problem is (and this is quite evident) you don't seem to be one for things that are sublime. It's as if you need things to be hard and in your face or else you don't get it. I have a feeling that there is very little subtlety in that which makes up megafluxmega. And that is a bit what this game is about. cater to me? this game couldnt keep up with me if the whole team was trying to, they are bound by the lore! of the 10 people i jumped into this game with i was the last to leave, everyone else capped once and stopped. it isnt like i didnt give it a chance, there is just not much there. There is not much there for you to like, but perhaps not others? Again, you are not the Alpha/Omega and though you are very free to like and dislike something, your tone assumes that anyone liking this or finding value in it is somewhat "less than". you go ahead and push the hype about how great this game is (for whatever reason, dunno maybe you people are just lonely) but people who fall for it will find out that at the end of the day there really isnt much there. 4 starting points , yay.. by level 20 you are on 1 of 2 maps (like 12 hous later if you stop to admire the view alot). at level 30 everyone is on 1 of 2 maps (though 35 really is the time to jump). all the rest of the way its 1 of 2 maps, that REALLY isnt much variety. sure its pretty, but that can only take it so far. its boring and repetitive (joy kill 150 of these now 300 of those). where the hell does that come off as first class? It is very apparent you didn't get the game and it is not for you if this is what you are arguing against. yea i am hard core (in the oldest sense of the word), and sure im a man for all seasons (even though i did play a hunter), but that does not eliminate me from having an opinion. it would be false representation if threads like this were allowed to be circle jerks of "what a great game" this is. Once again, you just don't get it. You are creating a fight where there isn't one which also seems to show your quality. No one is saying that this is the end all be all of games (well some might but I don't really see it here) or that it is supposed to be anything other than what it is. Yes you do have an opinion and you should be able to express it. But expressing your opinion and pointing out things that are wrong with the game is different than saying this game wasn't deserving of your attention and anyone who likes it is a lore nerd, a noob and a slowbie. And this is where i say that you don't come off on being a man's man for playing the way you do as it's a video game. A 13 year old with time on his hands could be hardcore and it doesn't make him any more manly as ... it's a video game. To that end, my main game for 4+ years was Lineage 2. I know what hard is and I know what it's like to level for hours and only get 2% or so xp. I know what a hard economy is as well as ffa pvp and having non-stop wars. But that doesn't mean that I can't look at LOTRO for a game that really is more than a sum of it's parts. And that is where I think you go wrong. You only see the parts. And because the sum is somethnig that doesn't appeal to you you just don't acknowledge it. I'm more than sure that any of us can bring a litany of complaints against this game. Dubious character design, dumb mobs that just stand around waiting to be killed, bears - bears - bears, Dubious city design, etc. But those are things that can be overlooked for the big picture. Truth be told that I think LOTRO is more of a big picture, high concept game for players who want to see it.
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Outside of some light off-topic discussion, there have been a great many points about LotRO that definitely interest me.
I have seen the logic several times that, "the game hasn't changed," and I'm ok with that. What I want from a MMO HAS changed. I used to try to find games that my friends would play with me; now I'm more concerned with finding the game I want to play without worrying about them.
I really want an immersive experience with great social aspects; a great ride to the end-game without worrying about what is waiting for me there. It sounds like LOTRO may be a good fit afterall.
Plus, I LOVE the lore; the in-game scenes and 'drama' were well-done.
I think I'll make a return with MoM and give it a month; does anyone have a server recommendation?
Thanks again to everyone who took the tiem to offer constructive feedback!
i have already dissolved the 50+ gold and over 50 beryl shards i amassed in playing this game for just over 2 months amongst former guildies but i have to say.... that isnt a AA community, its more like AARP community. the peeps i met playing this game mostly needed a party to wipe their own asses (though truthfully there were VERY few kiddies). no exaggeration, i saw people looking for parties that involved running across town. couldnt even read the INCREDIBLY easy to understand quest log, they just got the quest and started spamming for parties. the game does keep trudging along, ill give them credit in that but i hit cap on 3.90 characters (champ, loremaster, hunter, and nearly cap) and the game just doesnt have that much to offer (woo hoo fishing!::sarcasm::). what am i expected to cap each class despite the fact that i hate playing it? the way i play just isnt viable in this game, its for softies, ladies, maybe good for newbies. the most fun i had (because i found rift runs to be just over nerded "we have to do this this way" 30 min. monolouges by someone who supposedly knew what they were talking about {{watched a video on youtube}}) was stealing those beryl shards from the [i cant use the word to describe people that camp things like this] that were camping for them while i was gathering crafting resources. it just isnt a solid game, i personally feel anyone would be better off waiting until next year and trying some of the next few games to launch. i will never be playing this game again because even if they do another years worth of content it will only take me about a week to play through it (including pvp ranks, which alot of [again cant use the word] cheat at getting). i gave away all my shit because i knew i wouldnt be back, it isnt keeping me from going back. met some real nice people (and taught them to use vent) but this scene IS for what i will just call the "slowbies".
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Originally posted by Talin I think I'll make a return with MoM and give it a month; does anyone have a server recommendation? Thanks again to everyone who took the tiem to offer constructive feedback!
Regarding server recommendation, I would say first of of all stay away from the Brandywine server as it is the most populated server and you will probably have long wait lines to get in once the expansion comes out. Next top servers are Elendilmir and Landroval, which is what I would recommend. I am on Elendilmir and enjoying it very much so
"What are the top reasons for returning to Middle Earth?"
Just a few words of warning to anyone who's planning returning Lotro. If you dont remember and are unable to use your old Click & Buy account, dont even dream to get in-game.
From my experience Lotro have ultimately worst customer support i have ever seen in my life. I tried to re-sub back to game, i have forget my C&B account since it was old bank information and tried to use new one. Well, after one week waiting reply from support they said im somekind of loop to put my new information and they cannot put my account active. They directed me to contact straight Click and Buy. I did that and waited for one another week their support and for the last in this fiasco they accidentically deleted (due "human error" as they said) my account. After that i was asked to create a new one.. which i really didnt got into and i decided to never try to play that freaking game again.
You would think that 2 weeks is enough to get back to game but NO!.. That's pretty much few left clicks simple in ANY other game i have been playing and i really dont understand how it can be so freaking complex in Lotro. At least Click & Buy won 20 euros i have put my account.. due Human error.. I mean, what kind of bloodsucker organization have values like this? I will ever support this kind of behavior with my coins.
So I played LotRO when it first came out, beta into release, and played a minstrel for a while. I was in 'solo' mode at the time, and I think I burned out on the experience of trying to solo the chapters around level 20; groups were also hard to find (yes, even as a minstrel). I'm thinking about returning, and probably looking for a guild (fellowship) this time around, but I wonder, what has changed with LoTRO in the last year or so? What are the features that its players embrace and consider the reasons for playing? I have no intention of going to WoW again, and while I am playing WAR it satisfies a very different experience than most MMORPGs (I play it exclusively for the PvP content). I want a solid PvE game, and while I don't like raiding for the most part, I do enjoy a great group-based game. Any feedback/insight would be much appreciated.
I just re-subbed a few days ago, from a 5-6 months break, i myself find that lotro have improved pretty much.
for one, i love the new system where you can have 2 additional sets of clothing which dont override your armour, it can make you look unique if one wants too ::) that might be what megaflux refer to a "dress room" and with MoM you´ll be able to forge legendary items which grows with you, and become very personal, and you´ll even get to name them later on..might just be me that find that awesome though
im not max level, i and dont expect to be when MoM releases...but again..this is a no rush game, just take your time and enjoy it, i am!
Wait, did etlar did just say he re-subbed?...when the guy before him said it can't be done?!?! I'M SO CONFUSED!!!!! :P
heh well the guy before said Turbine also had the worst possible CS. He must have thought he was on the Conan forum and talking about Funcom LOL. I only had on issue that needed CS attention and that was in the original beta and it was cleared up within 15 minutes of talking to a rep.
Wait, did etlar did just say he re-subbed?...when the guy before him said it can't be done?!?! I'M SO CONFUSED!!!!! :P
heh well the guy before said Turbine also had the worst possible CS. He must have thought he was on the Conan forum and talking about Funcom LOL. I only had on issue that needed CS attention and that was in the original beta and it was cleared up within 15 minutes of talking to a rep.
Dont be so CONFUSED, dear.. some day you will see and learn that world can be full or surprises
And what comes from age of conan.. i did resubbed actually two times on their game and you know what, one click and BAM! you're back on track. These dudes on Turbine (or whatever 5th department over the seas what they use for their billing) could really have something to learn from them at least.
Great reason is the PVE I have never played a MMO that does the story so well here with the voice overs and lore. Actually I never really cared about even reading the lore or the story till I found LOTRO.
Lifetime sub is awesome I started at release and now I play for free. Try finding a free MMO with as much as LOTRO has. Even 10 dollars a month is still way cheaper than most MMO"s. I can quit when I want for months then comeback no problem LOTRO will always be on my desktop.
Upcoming Xpac is gonna add alot of good stuff. Ledgendary weapons is what I am most looking forward to since I dont know any other games that have done that although WOW will steal it eventually I am sure.
Bad stuff- 10 more levels to do in Xpac makes me wanna puke. All the new stuff could have just been added and without 10 more levels so the level 50 content will probably become rarely done.
All in all alot more good then bad but the 10 new levels almost makes it even to me as it makes content obsolete at 50 and 10 more levels for alts to have to do. ( alt-aholic here )
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I can't tell about Turbine, but Codemasters are having a flawless CS in place. Only 3 times had I any issue ingame, and in each case my problem was solved politely within 3-5 minutes.
Take this one for an experience, from someone playing LOTRO for 19 months now (CB included).
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Great reason is the PVE I have never played a MMO that does the story so well here with the voice overs and lore. Actually I never really cared about even reading the lore or the story till I found LOTRO. Lifetime sub is awesome I started at release and now I play for free. Try finding a free MMO with as much as LOTRO has. Even 10 dollars a month is still way cheaper than most MMO"s. I can quit when I want for months then comeback no problem LOTRO will always be on my desktop. Upcoming Xpac is gonna add alot of good stuff. Ledgendary weapons is what I am most looking forward to since I dont know any other games that have done that although WOW will steal it eventually I am sure. Bad stuff- 10 more levels to do in Xpac makes me wanna puke. All the new stuff could have just been added and without 10 more levels so the level 50 content will probably become rarely done. All in all alot more good then bad but the 10 new levels almost makes it even to me as it makes content obsolete at 50 and 10 more levels for alts to have to do. ( alt-aholic here )
I don't understand why people have problems with adding levels? So what?
You can still do the content and just ignore your levels. It's as if peopl just expect the game to stay at a particular level range. It's a level based game. Otherwise they wouldn't have to have levels just quests. But to be honest, I think many people (including myself) enjoy the betterment of the character in a variety of ways.
Somebody else posted a very good post on why levels work. That they are an accepted and easy barometer reading of a character. That instead of shouting "looking for berg 25/50/35/80 (or whatever points in whatever skills) that it is fast and easy to say "looking for berg 35.
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i think that one of the biggest reasons to return if u like the game alot is the billing options. three months for 9 dollars a month or 199 for a lifetime? such great deals especially since i read somewhere that the game will be supported through 2017
Great reason is the PVE I have never played a MMO that does the story so well here with the voice overs and lore. Actually I never really cared about even reading the lore or the story till I found LOTRO. Lifetime sub is awesome I started at release and now I play for free. Try finding a free MMO with as much as LOTRO has. Even 10 dollars a month is still way cheaper than most MMO"s. I can quit when I want for months then comeback no problem LOTRO will always be on my desktop. Upcoming Xpac is gonna add alot of good stuff. Ledgendary weapons is what I am most looking forward to since I dont know any other games that have done that although WOW will steal it eventually I am sure. Bad stuff- 10 more levels to do in Xpac makes me wanna puke. All the new stuff could have just been added and without 10 more levels so the level 50 content will probably become rarely done. All in all alot more good then bad but the 10 new levels almost makes it even to me as it makes content obsolete at 50 and 10 more levels for alts to have to do. ( alt-aholic here )
I don't understand why people have problems with adding levels? So what?
You can still do the content and just ignore your levels. It's as if peopl just expect the game to stay at a particular level range. It's a level based game. Otherwise they wouldn't have to have levels just quests. But to be honest, I think many people (including myself) enjoy the betterment of the character in a variety of ways.
Somebody else posted a very good post on why levels work. That they are an accepted and easy barometer reading of a character. That instead of shouting "looking for berg 25/50/35/80 (or whatever points in whatever skills) that it is fast and easy to say "looking for berg 35.
Well I play Lotro for the PVE and if you can name a game for me that added more levels and the old content did not become virtually dead I will agree with you.
I love the current level 50 content and its like watching a friend die imo when the xpac comes. other than a number higher than 50 why would they need to add levels to the game?
You can put books in the new dungeons off bosses that teach a new ability and they can add new deeds where ever they need to. Armor stats can be increased slightly along with difficulty in the new dungeons to compensate for a challenge.
I know I am almost alone on this idea but I just feel like there was a better way to do it.
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Well I play Lotro for the PVE and if you can name a game for me that added more levels and the old content did not become virtually dead I will agree with you.
I love the current level 50 content and its like watching a friend die imo when the xpac comes. other than a number higher than 50 why would they need to add levels to the game?
You can put books in the new dungeons off bosses that teach a new ability and they can add new deeds where ever they need to. Armor stats can be increased slightly along with difficulty in the new dungeons to compensate for a challenge.
I know I am almost alone on this idea but I just feel like there was a better way to do it.
they can either up the difficulty of the raid areas to lvl 60 difficulty or change them to 6 man instance lvl of difficulty and add incentives to go there. Just a couple of ideas
Outside of some light off-topic discussion, there have been a great many points about LotRO that definitely interest me. I have seen the logic several times that, "the game hasn't changed," and I'm ok with that. What I want from a MMO HAS changed. I used to try to find games that my friends would play with me; now I'm more concerned with finding the game I want to play without worrying about them. I really want an immersive experience with great social aspects; a great ride to the end-game without worrying about what is waiting for me there. It sounds like LOTRO may be a good fit afterall. Plus, I LOVE the lore; the in-game scenes and 'drama' were well-done. I think I'll make a return with MoM and give it a month; does anyone have a server recommendation? Thanks again to everyone who took the tiem to offer constructive feedback!
Server recommendations? hmm i can only speak for the one i play on as i haven't tried others..
Gilrain is a good server, by good i mean average population, good community (always bad apples in a game but i haven't seen any since i resubbed last week). at the moment i take things slow, 3 characters, a captain, a champion and a guardian, i'm levelling them together and by that i mean i play 5-10 levels of one then do the same with the others so they're all around same level. As for interaction i used to be the founder of a good kinship and we had strict rules to protect our members and the general population, many might consider these rules over the top but they worked and everyone had fun, I play the game with my fiance once kids are in bed and when i'm not busy with my duties as Deputy Clan Leader for a CoD4 clan.
The game is casual friendly if your not interested in raids at the end game level, which i'm not..
Overall, the best MMO on the market today in my opinion. Not because of the lore as i'm not into it myself, but because it's the closest thing to an MMORPG these days. Others just don't have the RPG element involved anymore.
I stopped playing LOTR months ago because it just couldn't hold my interests for too long. And this game seems to be made for those who are just simply obessed with the books. Heaven forbid if you don't know a piece of lore history from the books people act like you lived under a rock. And just like someone said before, it is true that you have nothing else better to do once you reach lvl 50, the only other thing to do is start all over again with a new character or do a raid. Rift Raids are also hard to get into cause they plan them outside the game too. I was only in one rift raid and that is because someone was advertising while I was in Rivendell so I went ahead. It was okay, however all the fun was drained from it because you were expected to follow orders and if you made a mistake people acted like you killed their child. Seriously, people would yell or even curse you out for not following orders. It is not fun listening to someone apologize for a simple mistake while other people act like they are the biggest moron in history. Then you had to spend 30 mins listening to a play by play from someone who has done it forty million times, every single time you do a raid. So basically a 2 hour raid is 4+ hours from preparations alone. Then you can do the Enttenmoors(sp?) which is only fun for so long, sure you feel like your in a war but the server crashes when too many people are on then everyone wants to quit because it's no fun. Then you got the raid leaders in the moors who act like they are paying you to be there, sure there are some cool raid leaders that are easy going and still get the job done but then you come across some bossy a$$hole who the other nerds think is the $h!t so no one challenges him. If you don't have vent set up you better forget about it cause no one will take you in a raid without vent.
Also people are only out for what they can get and the moment a better deal comes along they would drop you for that. Mind you I don't take it personally but I was in a fellowship that broke up while in a den full of spiders because the leader saw a lvl 50 helping someone out and wanted to hurry up and join them. That was not pretty. And you better not join a fellowship unless everyone has the same quest cause if you don't most of your time will be doing other people's quests then they suddenly will have to leave before helping you out with yours. The houses aren't that great, they are just xtra storage bins, reaching lvl 50 and doing the book quests are the only fun thing to do and once that is over there is nothing else exciting but doing useless crap to waste time until another book is released. Which takes about one day to complete then you're back to being bored. I know you guys are gonna talk about me too but oh well the OP was asked about experiences so I'm giving mine. I came to this site looking for release dates to other MMOs and decided to drop by to see if anything new was happening with the LOTR. If you do play I hope you have fun and enjoy yourself, the game does have some good elements too. And it kept my interest for a while, I never would have reached lvl 50 if it didn't. I just wanted to say that I agreed with the other poster (sorry can't remember name) who said that once you become lvl 50 there is nothing else. Just log on to the game and ask how many people have lvl 50s, some people play for just a few months and have three lvl 50 characters that they use for various things so reaching lvl50 isn't much of an accomplishment.
This is the number 1 reason why I might return when Moria releases. I've seen Age of Conan and WAR in my time off from LotRO (EvE doesn't count because I just ALWAYS go back to or are in EvE) and one thing was a real torture there: Community.
What really set LotRO apart was the community, mainly extremely nice people, mature, literature freaks, people you wanna sit down with, drink a glass of wine and talk, that did make the difference. Also best RP in any MMORPG alive atm.
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The negatives in the eve community (none helpful, rude types) are pretty much in every game these days.
well i ve decided to return soon too and maybe actually get the lifetime sub . i think in the long run it could be cheaper . not that its a game i d play all the time but this game is lovingly done and has a lot of care put into it . it also has the nicest community in mmos . always a pleasure to return to .
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Also this is one of the top reason why LotrO is such a great game! It doesnt cater to this type of players^^
So if you play MMOs to have fun and socialice with nice people then LotrO is for you... If you play to be uber 1337 then there is better games for you to play...
I agree.
I'm sorry megafluxmega but quite frankly, your post is needlessly dismissive and rather assuming.
I could easily accept you saying that your playing style doesn't fit the game. That at least was mature and made sense.
But this whole idea that it's for ladies and noobs and you can't wait to play dress up? Please. You can't be more than 12 or a complete jughead with comments like that. It implies some sort of toughness or manliness in playing video games that is just not there. I"m sorry but you could be the definitive male icon but from what I've seen for online game players they just don't impress me as being "that' and range from stringy, looking like 12 year olds, unkempt in many cases, having a bit too much padding and in some cases bordering on the obese or just plain average.
And yet your language seems to paint you as some sort of man's man (will you even understand what that means? could be an antiquated saying by now) who eschews anything that is not hardcore.
So "yes' lotro is more than leveling and it's obvious you haven't realized that. No worries, ,as you intitially said, it doesn't fit your playing style and there's nothing wrong with that.
But to go beyond that with your statements seems to be a bit 2 dimensional at best.
pretentious much?
if i put time into a game i expect to feel some sort of ..i guess achievement from it. i just blew the hinges off this one.
i'm also not some lore nazi, and honestly i dont even think the books are THAT great, people say everyone steals from tolkien, i find that he stole from shakespeare. so yea being that i am not DRESSING UP like anything to attend nerdcon 2009 i may not be the ideal person to play this game. but when i play ANY game pretty much the last thing i care about is how my gear looks, naturally i would rather it looked neat, but i am not about to go grind rep so i can have a COSMETIC set of armor. that is what i see in this game. ALOT of people running pointless quests for rep to get "pretty" armor.
the game IS for slowbies (and lore nerds)! if ANY not even hard core, but moderately dedicated player plays it they will blow through it. now sure it might be nice for families to all play together (and i HAVE IN FACT played with great grandmothers). but to people looking for a game that you feel you have accomplished something in, this is the worst case scenario. you cap, get pimp gear, and say now what? maybe ill go to the moors and grind to rank 10? i mean really. oh yay, i get to go kill trolls for 3.5 hours to complete a deed. better yet ill go fishing so i can hang fish all over my wall. if it doesnt make my character stronger, faster, in any way better i just dont care about it or count is as content, the only reason i had houses was to store all the useless crap i had amassed.
cater to me? this game couldnt keep up with me if the whole team was trying to, they are bound by the lore! of the 10 people i jumped into this game with i was the last to leave, everyone else capped once and stopped. it isnt like i didnt give it a chance, there is just not much there.
you go ahead and push the hype about how great this game is (for whatever reason, dunno maybe you people are just lonely) but people who fall for it will find out that at the end of the day there really isnt much there. 4 starting points , yay.. by level 20 you are on 1 of 2 maps (like 12 hous later if you stop to admire the view alot). at level 30 everyone is on 1 of 2 maps (though 35 really is the time to jump). all the rest of the way its 1 of 2 maps, that REALLY isnt much variety. sure its pretty, but that can only take it so far. its boring and repetitive (joy kill 150 of these now 300 of those). where the hell does that come off as first class?
yea i am hard core (in the oldest sense of the word), and sure im a man for all seasons (even though i did play a hunter), but that does not eliminate me from having an opinion. it would be false representation if threads like this were allowed to be circle jerks of "what a great game" this is.
So you play 4 toons to the level cap on a game you don't like (in 2 months... i didn't know that was possible in such a short time). That's how many hundreds of hours? What do you do with games that you do like??
i leveled the hunter for my daughter, the LM for the guild, the champ seemed like an obvious choice, and the cap was pretty much the end of the rope since i didnt really want to stop. as anyone that knows the game at all knows the power levelers can do it in 10 days, wtf makes you think someone who knows mmo's cant do it faster? IT ISNT EVEN HARD!
areb: yea it is just a stupid sequencing pvm game, fact is ill destroy ANY game put in front of me if i play it. this is another reason i dont pvp in mmorpg's much, its just gay. come see me in unreal then talk shit. from staying awake for days to having gm's ask me if im a bot, i go big or i dont go. it is borderline mechanical, and i use every advantage afforded me and i dont respond to players in game except to blacklist morons. dont buy gold or power leveling (why would i need to?) dont cheat EVER, dont ks, and dont take no guff from no swine.
yea it is just a game after all, some of us dont play them to suck at them though.
side note:i DONT like many games these days. just as much content as its contemporaries...try playing some of its contemporaries!
No point in feeding someone this blind to other opinions. Well, at least age itself won't make someone mature, to say the least....
The player who loves LOTRO most often does not live in the delusion that the game needs to be "won". In this sense, the "endgame" (always hated this sick term), is not the reason someone will love LOTRO for. It can be played very casually (I almost missed 2 months due to changing jobs, flat, girlfriend), but i can always come back and have a good time. Anytime! I never feel I am "behind" or missed anything.
Here is MY OWN opinion: Someone who caps a player in 8 days in ANY game will probably never like any game, because he/she misses the whole point in ANY game: The fun. It pays well to read the quest texts, to just *be part of* the story, to have some immersion. Take the time, look around, enjoy the scenery or even the sunset.... why hurry? WHERE to hurry? Who would be the developer who can keep up with such an insane tempo? That is not going to happen to any game, since this kind of player is a tiny tad little minority now. They could have been the vast majority in the EQ and UO era, but that is no more. Even the majority of those old-time-hardcore people now have a life, and won't play 12+ hours per day (which is a BARE minimum to cap a toon in less than 10 days, even in LOTRO).
Having said that, I have totally NO problems with someone spending the bigger part of life trying to *beat* a game and then complaining about its lack of content. I will not say anything bad about them as I don't feel anything in common with them. Each to their own, some might say.
Dear megafluxmega, it would probably be worthy to try read slowly and understand what I mean - by calling people with different playstyle "idiots" and "slowbies", you are being very immature. No wonder people were (rightly) assuming you're 12. Your posts make you look like that.... they are very aggressive condescending, judgemental, elitist, and just plainly - childish. Sorry.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
A few reasons to play lotro:
- very nice community
- lots of people play it, I never have problems to find groups for quests or instances (and I play on the least populated european server, evernight)
- beautiful graphics and enviromnent
- the game has almost no bugs, devs are doing a great job and they listen to what players say
- a lot of fun, fun quests and pvp
just return to middle earth ^^
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Hrmmm 3 points to this:
1. My reasons I enjoy playing are not necessarily reasons you'll want to come back -- the main reason I state this is you didn't elaborate much on what made you leave except you got sick of soloing (totally understand) and had trouble finding groups on a MINSTREL? hehe I find that hard to believe but it could have been servor population -- I played a minstrel from open beta and never had an issue finding fellowships.
2. I totally agree with what has been said regarding the game not changing much -- I have found most folks who didn't enjoy the gameplay didn't enjoy it any better on a return visit. This may change with Moria as they are changing some underlying things with gameplay but not sure how obvious those changes will be.
3. hardcore vs casual -- old school vs new. Interesting points -- I will only add this. I raided extensively in Everquest for about 6 years -- I play LOTRO a lot and am part of an active kinship that has participated in every raid the game has to offer numerous times. I personally find the scripts in the top content in this game to be harder to figure out than Everquest (the ultimate in tank and spank) but do get a bit repetitive. Yes they've spent an awful lot of time on housing and cosmetic gear and fishing to appease the RP community but the end game content has been very fun and dynamic IMO. I find no less a sense of accomplishment in this game then I did playing Everquest. I'm honestly not sure what all the *this game is not hardcore enough* fuss is about -- this is coming from someone who plays MMO's in what would be considered a *hardcore* fashion. I totally agree with the responses that had substance stating that LOTRO is about the story line and immersion in to it -- that is what propels this game forward for me. Some of the most creative quest story lines I've seen in any MMO. I can see that for someone who only cares about the carrot dangling at the victory line and not enjoying the process they may get *bored* but personally I've not felt bored and have felt accomplishments in the build I've fine tuned on my character. There is also no more grinding in this game than any other the deeds just give a *purpose* to it.
Remembered one other detail -- as far as the lore restricting development goes I"ll give you some actual examples from probably the two biggest parts of the content for players:
1. The Rift -- this 12 man raid zone was totally invented for LOTRO -- it has no basis in lore nor does it pretend to. It's a great story derived from what *could have* been but never actually was in any of the books. However -- it feels totally immersive and fits Middle Earth very well and *adds to* the story imho.
2. The book series or epic series of quests -- there are 14 books released at this point in game that take you on a story line that supposedly is going on while the fellowship is going through their ordeal that again is totally made up. It uses some real middle earth characters some made up etc but it's Turbine's twist on events surrounding the fellowship of the ring that *could* be going on but were never actually in the book. Again it feels very immersive and fits Middle Earth very well.
They have taken great pains to make the maps be very detail oriented and extremely accurate when compared to the books. The shire, and breelands and lonelands are remarkable -- right down to if you watch the in game clock it takes a full day and night to journey on foot from Bree to the Forsaken Inn -- sheer brilliance!!!
In other words the world is extremely accurate -- they have introducted lore accurate content but have taken liberties to expand on happennings and invent strories of their own within middle earth. Just like awesome role players would do -- and imho this game sports the best RP community (I'm on an RP servor) I've seen since pre Kunark Everquest.
One thing also to note is that LOTRO is far far more lore consistant and accurate than the movies which were a total abomination to lore. Not saying the movies were bad -- they were just grossly inaccurate interpretations of the actual book content. I thoroughly enjoyed them myself (an uncanny portrayal of the mind's eye while reading the books) and they are another great example of how you can take the LOTR story and world and use it to inspire something awesome. This game is yet another example AND it actually has lore accurate content!!! Again sheer brilliance imho.
For me personally I find gameplay in most MMO's to be very very similar -- they all have their finer details that make them different slightly (LOTRO included) but in the end once you've played one MMO you pretty much can make your way in any other at this point. What makes a game truely immersive is it's story line and feeling like i"M part of a world of excitement and this game has this in spades!!! I'm not on some mindless quest for better gear and better stats than the next guy I'm experiencing an unfolding story line that to me is incredibly cool!
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Outside of some light off-topic discussion, there have been a great many points about LotRO that definitely interest me.
I have seen the logic several times that, "the game hasn't changed," and I'm ok with that. What I want from a MMO HAS changed. I used to try to find games that my friends would play with me; now I'm more concerned with finding the game I want to play without worrying about them.
I really want an immersive experience with great social aspects; a great ride to the end-game without worrying about what is waiting for me there. It sounds like LOTRO may be a good fit afterall.
Plus, I LOVE the lore; the in-game scenes and 'drama' were well-done.
I think I'll make a return with MoM and give it a month; does anyone have a server recommendation?
Thanks again to everyone who took the tiem to offer constructive feedback!
All hail ! macho man ! ..... lol bet you go to football matches and eat Pukka Pies too
Regarding server recommendation, I would say first of of all stay away from the Brandywine server as it is the most populated server and you will probably have long wait lines to get in once the expansion comes out. Next top servers are Elendilmir and Landroval, which is what I would recommend. I am on Elendilmir and enjoying it very much so
"What are the top reasons for returning to Middle Earth?"
Just a few words of warning to anyone who's planning returning Lotro. If you dont remember and are unable to use your old Click & Buy account, dont even dream to get in-game.
From my experience Lotro have ultimately worst customer support i have ever seen in my life. I tried to re-sub back to game, i have forget my C&B account since it was old bank information and tried to use new one. Well, after one week waiting reply from support they said im somekind of loop to put my new information and they cannot put my account active. They directed me to contact straight Click and Buy. I did that and waited for one another week their support and for the last in this fiasco they accidentically deleted (due "human error" as they said) my account. After that i was asked to create a new one.. which i really didnt got into and i decided to never try to play that freaking game again.
You would think that 2 weeks is enough to get back to game but NO!.. That's pretty much few left clicks simple in ANY other game i have been playing and i really dont understand how it can be so freaking complex in Lotro. At least Click & Buy won 20 euros i have put my account.. due Human error.. I mean, what kind of bloodsucker organization have values like this? I will ever support this kind of behavior with my coins.
I lol'ed
I just re-subbed a few days ago, from a 5-6 months break, i myself find that lotro have improved pretty much.
for one, i love the new system where you can have 2 additional sets of clothing which dont override your armour, it can make you look unique if one wants too ::) that might be what megaflux refer to a "dress room" and with MoM you´ll be able to forge legendary items which grows with you, and become very personal, and you´ll even get to name them later on..might just be me that find that awesome though
im not max level, i and dont expect to be when MoM releases...but again..this is a no rush game, just take your time and enjoy it, i am!
Wait, did etlar did just say he re-subbed?...when the guy before him said it can't be done?!?! I'M SO CONFUSED!!!!! :P
heh well the guy before said Turbine also had the worst possible CS. He must have thought he was on the Conan forum and talking about Funcom LOL. I only had on issue that needed CS attention and that was in the original beta and it was cleared up within 15 minutes of talking to a rep.
I miss DAoC
heh well the guy before said Turbine also had the worst possible CS. He must have thought he was on the Conan forum and talking about Funcom LOL. I only had on issue that needed CS attention and that was in the original beta and it was cleared up within 15 minutes of talking to a rep.
Dont be so CONFUSED, dear.. some day you will see and learn that world can be full or surprises
And what comes from age of conan.. i did resubbed actually two times on their game and you know what, one click and BAM! you're back on track. These dudes on Turbine (or whatever 5th department over the seas what they use for their billing) could really have something to learn from them at least.
Great reason is the PVE I have never played a MMO that does the story so well here with the voice overs and lore. Actually I never really cared about even reading the lore or the story till I found LOTRO.
Lifetime sub is awesome I started at release and now I play for free. Try finding a free MMO with as much as LOTRO has. Even 10 dollars a month is still way cheaper than most MMO"s. I can quit when I want for months then comeback no problem LOTRO will always be on my desktop.
Upcoming Xpac is gonna add alot of good stuff. Ledgendary weapons is what I am most looking forward to since I dont know any other games that have done that although WOW will steal it eventually I am sure.
Bad stuff- 10 more levels to do in Xpac makes me wanna puke. All the new stuff could have just been added and without 10 more levels so the level 50 content will probably become rarely done.
All in all alot more good then bad but the 10 new levels almost makes it even to me as it makes content obsolete at 50 and 10 more levels for alts to have to do. ( alt-aholic here )
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I can't tell about Turbine, but Codemasters are having a flawless CS in place. Only 3 times had I any issue ingame, and in each case my problem was solved politely within 3-5 minutes.
Take this one for an experience, from someone playing LOTRO for 19 months now (CB included).
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
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I don't understand why people have problems with adding levels? So what?
You can still do the content and just ignore your levels. It's as if peopl just expect the game to stay at a particular level range. It's a level based game. Otherwise they wouldn't have to have levels just quests. But to be honest, I think many people (including myself) enjoy the betterment of the character in a variety of ways.
Somebody else posted a very good post on why levels work. That they are an accepted and easy barometer reading of a character. That instead of shouting "looking for berg 25/50/35/80 (or whatever points in whatever skills) that it is fast and easy to say "looking for berg 35.
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i think that one of the biggest reasons to return if u like the game alot is the billing options. three months for 9 dollars a month or 199 for a lifetime? such great deals especially since i read somewhere that the game will be supported through 2017
I don't understand why people have problems with adding levels? So what?
You can still do the content and just ignore your levels. It's as if peopl just expect the game to stay at a particular level range. It's a level based game. Otherwise they wouldn't have to have levels just quests. But to be honest, I think many people (including myself) enjoy the betterment of the character in a variety of ways.
Somebody else posted a very good post on why levels work. That they are an accepted and easy barometer reading of a character. That instead of shouting "looking for berg 25/50/35/80 (or whatever points in whatever skills) that it is fast and easy to say "looking for berg 35.
Well I play Lotro for the PVE and if you can name a game for me that added more levels and the old content did not become virtually dead I will agree with you.
I love the current level 50 content and its like watching a friend die imo when the xpac comes. other than a number higher than 50 why would they need to add levels to the game?
You can put books in the new dungeons off bosses that teach a new ability and they can add new deeds where ever they need to. Armor stats can be increased slightly along with difficulty in the new dungeons to compensate for a challenge.
I know I am almost alone on this idea but I just feel like there was a better way to do it.
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Well I play Lotro for the PVE and if you can name a game for me that added more levels and the old content did not become virtually dead I will agree with you.
I love the current level 50 content and its like watching a friend die imo when the xpac comes. other than a number higher than 50 why would they need to add levels to the game?
You can put books in the new dungeons off bosses that teach a new ability and they can add new deeds where ever they need to. Armor stats can be increased slightly along with difficulty in the new dungeons to compensate for a challenge.
I know I am almost alone on this idea but I just feel like there was a better way to do it.
they can either up the difficulty of the raid areas to lvl 60 difficulty or change them to 6 man instance lvl of difficulty and add incentives to go there. Just a couple of ideas
I miss DAoC
Server recommendations? hmm i can only speak for the one i play on as i haven't tried others..
Gilrain is a good server, by good i mean average population, good community (always bad apples in a game but i haven't seen any since i resubbed last week). at the moment i take things slow, 3 characters, a captain, a champion and a guardian, i'm levelling them together and by that i mean i play 5-10 levels of one then do the same with the others so they're all around same level. As for interaction i used to be the founder of a good kinship and we had strict rules to protect our members and the general population, many might consider these rules over the top but they worked and everyone had fun, I play the game with my fiance once kids are in bed and when i'm not busy with my duties as Deputy Clan Leader for a CoD4 clan.
The game is casual friendly if your not interested in raids at the end game level, which i'm not..
Overall, the best MMO on the market today in my opinion. Not because of the lore as i'm not into it myself, but because it's the closest thing to an MMORPG these days. Others just don't have the RPG element involved anymore.
I stopped playing LOTR months ago because it just couldn't hold my interests for too long. And this game seems to be made for those who are just simply obessed with the books. Heaven forbid if you don't know a piece of lore history from the books people act like you lived under a rock. And just like someone said before, it is true that you have nothing else better to do once you reach lvl 50, the only other thing to do is start all over again with a new character or do a raid. Rift Raids are also hard to get into cause they plan them outside the game too. I was only in one rift raid and that is because someone was advertising while I was in Rivendell so I went ahead. It was okay, however all the fun was drained from it because you were expected to follow orders and if you made a mistake people acted like you killed their child. Seriously, people would yell or even curse you out for not following orders. It is not fun listening to someone apologize for a simple mistake while other people act like they are the biggest moron in history. Then you had to spend 30 mins listening to a play by play from someone who has done it forty million times, every single time you do a raid. So basically a 2 hour raid is 4+ hours from preparations alone. Then you can do the Enttenmoors(sp?) which is only fun for so long, sure you feel like your in a war but the server crashes when too many people are on then everyone wants to quit because it's no fun. Then you got the raid leaders in the moors who act like they are paying you to be there, sure there are some cool raid leaders that are easy going and still get the job done but then you come across some bossy a$$hole who the other nerds think is the $h!t so no one challenges him. If you don't have vent set up you better forget about it cause no one will take you in a raid without vent.
Also people are only out for what they can get and the moment a better deal comes along they would drop you for that. Mind you I don't take it personally but I was in a fellowship that broke up while in a den full of spiders because the leader saw a lvl 50 helping someone out and wanted to hurry up and join them. That was not pretty. And you better not join a fellowship unless everyone has the same quest cause if you don't most of your time will be doing other people's quests then they suddenly will have to leave before helping you out with yours. The houses aren't that great, they are just xtra storage bins, reaching lvl 50 and doing the book quests are the only fun thing to do and once that is over there is nothing else exciting but doing useless crap to waste time until another book is released. Which takes about one day to complete then you're back to being bored. I know you guys are gonna talk about me too but oh well the OP was asked about experiences so I'm giving mine. I came to this site looking for release dates to other MMOs and decided to drop by to see if anything new was happening with the LOTR. If you do play I hope you have fun and enjoy yourself, the game does have some good elements too. And it kept my interest for a while, I never would have reached lvl 50 if it didn't. I just wanted to say that I agreed with the other poster (sorry can't remember name) who said that once you become lvl 50 there is nothing else. Just log on to the game and ask how many people have lvl 50s, some people play for just a few months and have three lvl 50 characters that they use for various things so reaching lvl50 isn't much of an accomplishment.
The negatives in the eve community (none helpful, rude types) are pretty much in every game these days.
well i ve decided to return soon too and maybe actually get the lifetime sub . i think in the long run it could be cheaper . not that its a game i d play all the time but this game is lovingly done and has a lot of care put into it . it also has the nicest community in mmos . always a pleasure to return to .