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sometimes I think the fanboys are "forcing" themselves to like this game

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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333
    Originally posted by OutlawVR


    Here we go again. Frequency of these types of threads pop up everytime there isn't an update. Then an update comes and they all shut the fook up...for a while anyways. No update for a week or two and the trolling continues

    It was more caused  by someones ban time ended these days ;)

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  • ThunderousThunderous Member Posts: 1,152

    If you don't like Darkfall then why are you here?  Clearly just to get attention.

    The game looks fun.  It promises features that most of us really miss in MMO gaming and some features that we have always wanted in MMO gaming.

    It isn't hard to see why so many people follow the game.  The videos look fun and the feature list is great.

    I've been watching Darkfall since the beginning and I am very happy to know that within a few short months we will either know if it is going to happen or not.  By the looks of things, it is going to happen.

    I don't care about an open beta, I don't care about seeing character creation slots, I don't care if anyone in the public has logged on to play this game.  They have announced it is going to release late this year to the world, to the media, and they are taking a lot of steps to see that through. 

    One way or another this game will either lanuch or not, and we will all know either way its fate.

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  • CamthylionCamthylion Member UncommonPosts: 220
    Originally posted by KhaelSan


    character creation video??! Play Barbie Online or something if you care so much about that shit.



     

    I like character customization lol if everyone in the game looked the same then I probably wouldnt play it

     

    Barbie Online...   I like the sound of that   is there like nakid chics running around and stuff?

  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459
    Originally posted by Thunderous
    ...
    I've been watching Darkfall since the beginning and I am very happy to know that within a few short months we will either know if it is going to happen or not.  By the looks of things, it is going to happen.
    I don't care about an open beta, I don't care about seeing character creation slots, I don't care if anyone in the public has logged on to play this game.  They have announced it is going to release late this year to the world, to the media, and they are taking a lot of steps to see that through. 
    One way or another this game will either lanuch or not, and we will all know either way its fate.

    I disagree.

     

    There is no guarantee that we will know for sure by the end of 2008.   Sure Aventurine and Tasos will take a small hit if they miss the end of 2008 "promise".  But it won't change very much beyond that.

    Do you honestly think all the fans and haters will go away if they delay it once again?  Nah... it'll just be another paragraph to add to this post by Theodgrim.  Post #29

    www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/205888/page/1

     

    It might shake the faith of a few of the newcomers if it gets pushed back again... but there will be more newcomers when/if they make another announcement of Open Beta/release at a later date.  So in the end, nothing much will change.

     

  • flakmonkyflakmonky Member Posts: 210
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Realbigdeal


    OP. You are wrong.
    I played wow and i was seek of it when i was level55. Then, i post in the wow forum to say that i quit wow.
    I was looking for a mmorpg at youtube.com at 2007. Then, i randomly found darkfall online. The video name(What is darkfall online) I watched the whole video and now, i waiting in line to play it.
    When i read, full loot, pvp every were, no levels, skills base(Skills are easy to raise and its not like level like in RS). Full freedom, no instance. I got crazy about it and now, i cannot wait to play it.
    I never played UO, so i'm not even a fanboy of that style of game. I just saw the darkfall video and now i just cannot wait to play it. So, OP you are totally wrong.

    I mean no disrepsect, but you are part of that slice of the pie that is new to the game, and thus excited about it.

     

    Now had you been following it for 8 years, and been burned by their constant inferences of "Beta this year!" Im sure youd feel a lot different about it.



    Right... . Then please explain why the membership has never tripled before, in the last seven years. Darkfall is gearing up for its release, and becoming extremely public compared to their past efforts. Besides, the OPs point is destroyed by the increase in membership, no matter what happens in the future.

     

    I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.

  • TenSpottingTenSpotting Member Posts: 367
    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Realbigdeal


    OP. You are wrong.
    I played wow and i was seek of it when i was level55. Then, i post in the wow forum to say that i quit wow.
    I was looking for a mmorpg at youtube.com at 2007. Then, i randomly found darkfall online. The video name(What is darkfall online) I watched the whole video and now, i waiting in line to play it.
    When i read, full loot, pvp every were, no levels, skills base(Skills are easy to raise and its not like level like in RS). Full freedom, no instance. I got crazy about it and now, i cannot wait to play it.
    I never played UO, so i'm not even a fanboy of that style of game. I just saw the darkfall video and now i just cannot wait to play it. So, OP you are totally wrong.

    I mean no disrepsect, but you are part of that slice of the pie that is new to the game, and thus excited about it.

     

    Now had you been following it for 8 years, and been burned by their constant inferences of "Beta this year!" Im sure youd feel a lot different about it.



    Right... . Then please explain why the membership has never tripled before, in the last seven years. Darkfall is gearing up for its release, and becoming extremely public compared to their past efforts. Besides, the OPs point is destroyed by the increase in membership, no matter what happens in the future.



    the only reason people registered to the forums is because

    A. They want a free Beta to play.

    B. They want all the promised features.

     

  • Thoric485Thoric485 Member UncommonPosts: 525
    Originally posted by TenSpotting



    Me??? I am still waiting to watch a simple character creation video......

     

    Like you were waiting for a beta announcement.

    Like you were waiting for an anouncement from AVE about their contract.

    Like you were waiting for a gameplay video.

    Like you were waiting for someone to play the game live.

    Like you were waiting for media coverage on Darkfall

    Like you were waiting for a server host. (actualy that's one of the things no one asked about trough all those years)

    Aren't you ever satisfied?

     

    Plus, actually some people from Greece have confirmed that there was a show on which they showed Darkfall character costumisation, emotes and some head gear. But i guess they all agreed to make that up so that no one sees the one true proof of vaporware - NO CHARACTER CREATION VIDEO. (it's like the "No UI on screenshots" argument all over again.

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  • TenSpottingTenSpotting Member Posts: 367

    They made an announcement about Beta starting?

    I must have missed it. When's it starting?

    Actually it's real easy to satisfy people like me.

    Just let me log into the game and play. Surely after all these years, all the promises, and with them stating they have a complete game ready to launch in 2 months, that shouldn't be too hard to do?

  • flakmonkyflakmonky Member Posts: 210
    Originally posted by TenSpotting

    Originally posted by flakmonky





    Right... . Then please explain why the membership has never tripled before, in the last seven years. Darkfall is gearing up for its release, and becoming extremely public compared to their past efforts. Besides, the OPs point is destroyed by the increase in membership, no matter what happens in the future.



    what the fuck are you talking about lol

    Nothing you just said makes any sense. What does increase in forum registrations have to do with what I said?

    Originally posted by TenSpotting:


    Based on what they've been playing in their heads for the last 5-7 years..

    Think about this for a second.

    Let's say this game was never publically announced up to this point and one day it just popped up and showed every video that it has released over the last 7 years and made no "promises" of features beyond what was shown inside the videos themselves.

    Would anyone actually give a rats ass about it at that pont? No...

    The one and ONLY thing that has kept this project afloat is promises. 90% of which are still completely unfullfilled and unproven 2 months away from a supposed launch....

    I get the feeling that most people who have followed this all these years feel like they HAVE TO to like this game because they've followed it for so damn long, been promised so damn much, that there's really only two things they can do --- accept whatever bullshit their given and be happy with it or walk away and admit they've been fucked over by empty promises fior the last 7 years.

    Me??? I am still waiting to watch a simple character creation video...... and have someone explain to me why no one has been allowed to log into a game that is touted as being fully complete and commercially ready to launch in 2 months.


     

    You said that the only reason someone would say they like the game is because they had thrown away too much time on its forums, and want to justify the time spent. This is the point you are arguing and the topic of the thread. The fact that 2/3 of the fans are relatively new means that they have hardly spent much time on the forums. This means that they have nothing to justify. Yet they still like the game. Thus, there exists another reason that people are drawn to DF other than stubborneness. If your argument were true, this would not be the case, and thus, you are wrong.

     

    Even after your edit, the fact that they want the promised features means that they like what DF is supposed to be. Your argument is still invalid.

    I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Originally posted by TenSpotting


    Based on what they've been playing in their heads for the last 5-7 years..
    Think about this for a second.
    Let's say this game was never publically announced up to this point and one day it just popped up and showed every video that it has released over the last 7 years and made no "promises" of features beyond what was shown inside the videos themselves.
    Would anyone actually give a rats ass about it at that pont? No...
    The one and ONLY thing that has kept this project afloat is promises. 90% of which are still completely unfullfilled and unproven 2 months away from a supposed launch....
    I get the feeling that most people who have followed this all these years feel like they HAVE TO to like this game because they've followed it for so damn long, been promised so damn much, that there's really only two things they can do --- accept whatever bullshit their given and be happy with it or walk away and admit they've been fucked over by empty promises fior the last 7 years.
    Me??? I am still waiting to watch a simple character creation video...... and have someone explain to me why no one has been allowed to log into a game that is touted as being fully complete and commercially ready to launch in 2 months.

     



    You fail at trolling big time.



    After the famous video of August 2008 (not 2003), subscriptions at the official forums has trebled, meaning that people who didn't know about DF before, all of a sudden got interested to it due to the video, and apparently they liked what they saw.



    So all your theory about veteran fanboys waiting for 7 years and forcing themselves to like it, is utterly laughable.



    Fact is that there are many people who like this game design, but there is no game ready on the market.

    DF is the closest you can get, therefore this people are waiting in trepidation..........not forcing themselves......



    Do your research better next time.

  • flakmonkyflakmonky Member Posts: 210
    Originally posted by TenSpotting


    They made an announcement about Beta starting?
    I must have missed it. When's it starting?
    Actually it's real easy to satisfy people like me.
    Just let me log into the game and play. Surely after all these years, all the promises, and with them stating they have a complete game ready to launch in 2 months, that shouldn't be too hard to do?

     

    [Sarcasm]Yes, lets let anyone who wants log into the game before the Open Beta, makes so much sense.[/Sarcasm]

    The Beta announcement is about when it is ending (early December). This means that Open Beta will begin this month to allow for "a few weeks" of Open Beta. If you can't even do simple math then you should be back in elementary school, instead of posting on forums.

    I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.

  • Thoric485Thoric485 Member UncommonPosts: 525
    Originally posted by TenSpotting


    They made an announcement about Beta starting?
    I must have missed it. When's it starting?
    Actually they announced their progress with beta testing an hour after my post. Guess i have a brighter future in fortune-telling than you atleast. Still it's just Tasos words and they seem to have the most obedient beta testers that never break the NDA but it keeps me happy.

     

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  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431

    Look at the gathering of the High Priests of Tasos!

    Look at em go!

    Froth Priests Froth!

    You were born to Froth!

  • AntaranAntaran Member Posts: 579
    Originally posted by TenSpotting


    They made an announcement about Beta starting?
    I must have missed it. When's it starting?
    Actually it's real easy to satisfy people like me.
    Just let me log into the game and play. Surely after all these years, all the promises, and with them stating they have a complete game ready to launch in 2 months, that shouldn't be too hard to do?

     

    This post makes it sound like your just annoyed that you can't get into beta..  are you one of those you say just signed up to the site hoping to get into beta by any chance?

  • VyntVynt Member UncommonPosts: 757

    I made it into beta.

    About 4 years ago, still waiting...

    The interest has grown a lot lately compared to years ago, because back then, there was plenty of quality games to play, but now, people seem desperate for something good to play, something different.

  • berniebearberniebear Member Posts: 228
    Originally posted by TenSpotting


    Based on what they've been playing in their heads for the last 5-7 years..
    Think about this for a second.
    Let's say this game was never publically announced up to this point and one day it just popped up and showed every video that it has released over the last 7 years and made no "promises" of features beyond what was shown inside the videos themselves.
    Would anyone actually give a rats ass about it at that pont? No...
    The one and ONLY thing that has kept this project afloat is promises. 90% of which are still completely unfullfilled and unproven 2 months away from a supposed launch....
    I get the feeling that most people who have followed this all these years feel like they HAVE TO to like this game because they've followed it for so damn long, been promised so damn much, that there's really only two things they can do --- accept whatever bullshit their given and be happy with it or walk away and admit they've been fucked over by empty promises fior the last 7 years.
    Me??? I am still waiting to watch a simple character creation video...... and have someone explain to me why no one has been allowed to log into a game that is touted as being fully complete and commercially ready to launch in 2 months.

     



     

    I was forced to do something once... never again... you HEAR!??! NEVER AGAIN?!?!

  • WRyanWRyan Member Posts: 266
    Originally posted by Galadourn

    Originally posted by CaesarsGhost



    most games show things like Character Creation videos around a year before Launch... it's very comon.
    And a series of smaller videos could be created to show the different gameplay features, even Dark and Light did them!

     

    yes but why is that suddenly so important? I couldn't care less about character creation (and I guess, as there are no classes, it should be a pretty simple process with not much to show).



     

    It's important because people like to know what their tools for building characters will be like, maybe?  Just a hunch...

    Since when is creating your avatar for an MMO, NOT important?  Especially one that claims to have all the crap that Darkfall has!  It will be the most important part of your game!

    I swear, I'm beginning to beleive that DF fanbois are really seriously ill, if they'll go THIS far to defend this game.

  • GravebladeGraveblade Member UncommonPosts: 547

    I dont need to force myself to like a game i think i will enjoy. You fail anyway because Tasos said that the features are in and i believe him because the game has been in development for a very long time.

    If some are not in then that doesnt bother me too much because theres still plenty of features that are very appealng to me which are already in because they are apparent in the videos.

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  • OutlawVROutlawVR Member Posts: 88
    Originally posted by Thoric485

    Originally posted by TenSpotting



    Me??? I am still waiting to watch a simple character creation video......

     

    Like you were waiting for a beta announcement.

    Like you were waiting for an anouncement from AVE about their contract.

    Like you were waiting for a gameplay video.

    Like you were waiting for someone to play the game live.

    Like you were waiting for media coverage on Darkfall

    Like you were waiting for a server host. (actualy that's one of the things no one asked about trough all those years)

    Aren't you ever satisfied?

     

    Plus, actually some people from Greece have confirmed that there was a show on which they showed Darkfall character costumisation, emotes and some head gear. But i guess they all agreed to make that up so that no one sees the one true proof of vaporware - NO CHARACTER CREATION VIDEO. (it's like the "No UI on screenshots" argument all over again.

     

    Im confused

    Shouldn't the thread have ended after this?

  • imbantimbant Member Posts: 1,291
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by KhaelSan


     

    Originally posted by TenSpotting

    They made an announcement about Beta starting?

    I must have missed it. When's it starting?

    Actually it's real easy to satisfy people like me.

    Just let me log into the game and play. Surely after all these years, all the promises, and with them stating they have a complete game ready to launch in 2 months, that shouldn't be too hard to do?

     

    dont worry emotes and gay weddings are supposed to be in.



     

    Perhaps that explains your rabid fanboism?



     

    i think it must be better to be a rabid fanboi than a sad troll.  at least the fanboi is happy and excited about having fun in a game.  where trolls are pathetic and really serve no purpose...maybe they should go find fun somewhere?  cause they certainly arent finding it in mmos.

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  • AbrahmmAbrahmm Member Posts: 2,448
    Originally posted by imbant

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by KhaelSan


     

    Originally posted by TenSpotting

    They made an announcement about Beta starting?

    I must have missed it. When's it starting?

    Actually it's real easy to satisfy people like me.

    Just let me log into the game and play. Surely after all these years, all the promises, and with them stating they have a complete game ready to launch in 2 months, that shouldn't be too hard to do?

     

    dont worry emotes and gay weddings are supposed to be in.



     

    Perhaps that explains your rabid fanboism?



     

    i think it must be better to be a rabid fanboi than a sad troll.  at least the fanboi is happy and excited about having fun in a game.  where trolls are pathetic and really serve no purpose...maybe they should go find fun somewhere?  cause they certainly arent finding it in mmos.

     

    On the contrary, it's much better to be a sad troll than a fanboi. If the game comes out and is good, the fanboi gets what he wanted and the troll is pleasantly surprised but loses nothing, but if the game sucks, or just doesn't come out at all, the fanboi is heartbroken and the troll is not surprised. 

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  • NatrisNatris Member Posts: 38
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by imbant

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by KhaelSan


     

    Originally posted by TenSpotting

    They made an announcement about Beta starting?

    I must have missed it. When's it starting?

    Actually it's real easy to satisfy people like me.

    Just let me log into the game and play. Surely after all these years, all the promises, and with them stating they have a complete game ready to launch in 2 months, that shouldn't be too hard to do?

     

    dont worry emotes and gay weddings are supposed to be in.



     

    Perhaps that explains your rabid fanboism?



     

    i think it must be better to be a rabid fanboi than a sad troll.  at least the fanboi is happy and excited about having fun in a game.  where trolls are pathetic and really serve no purpose...maybe they should go find fun somewhere?  cause they certainly arent finding it in mmos.



     

    Ill pose the same question to you that I do to the other High Priests of Tasos.

    If you are so sure and confident of Darkfall being the Holy Grail of MMOs, why put so much effort into defending it?

    If its really going to be as great as you think it is, let the game speak for itself, instead of mindlessly attacking anyone with a differing opinion.

    Obviously since neither you nor the rest of your congregation have any physical proof of what Darkfall will or will not be, let the game do the talking.

    Your constant defense of the game tells me that you arent as confident as youd have everyone think.

    Ill pose the same question to you that I do to the other Devil Worshipperrs of AntiTassos.

    If you are confident of Darkfall (not even existing - 2007) surely being total fail - 2008, why put so much effort into spreading your belief?

    If its really going to be as sucky as you think it is, let the game speak for itself, instead of mindlessly attacking anyone with a differing opinion.

    Obviously since there are no (((((((screenshots of the game - 2001) videos of the game - 2002),pictures of UI - 2005) more than two videos - 2006) visits of company from fan - 2007) only bunch of old videos - pre 29. 8. 2008) no gameplay video with UI - pre 18.10. 2008) no "simple character creation video" - the OP, the fans should all be forbidden from talking about the (feature x that has not been according to you sufficiently presented).

    Your constant attacking of the game tells me that you are a person who has really a lot of free time that can waste it on saving followers of game you personally do not believe to be any good from believing that their developers might be a little different than all the "normal" and "established" companies which are lately selling crappy games by huge advertisment budgets.

     

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by Natris

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by imbant

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by KhaelSan


     

    Originally posted by TenSpotting

    They made an announcement about Beta starting?

    I must have missed it. When's it starting?

    Actually it's real easy to satisfy people like me.

    Just let me log into the game and play. Surely after all these years, all the promises, and with them stating they have a complete game ready to launch in 2 months, that shouldn't be too hard to do?

     

    dont worry emotes and gay weddings are supposed to be in.



     

    Perhaps that explains your rabid fanboism?



     

    i think it must be better to be a rabid fanboi than a sad troll.  at least the fanboi is happy and excited about having fun in a game.  where trolls are pathetic and really serve no purpose...maybe they should go find fun somewhere?  cause they certainly arent finding it in mmos.



     

    Ill pose the same question to you that I do to the other High Priests of Tasos.

    If you are so sure and confident of Darkfall being the Holy Grail of MMOs, why put so much effort into defending it?

    If its really going to be as great as you think it is, let the game speak for itself, instead of mindlessly attacking anyone with a differing opinion.

    Obviously since neither you nor the rest of your congregation have any physical proof of what Darkfall will or will not be, let the game do the talking.

    Your constant defense of the game tells me that you arent as confident as youd have everyone think.

    Ill pose the same question to you that I do to the other Devil Worshipperrs of AntiTassos.

    If you are confident of Darkfall (not even existing - 2007) surely being total fail - 2008, why put so much effort into spreading your belief?

    If its really going to be as sucky as you think it is, let the game speak for itself, instead of mindlessly attacking anyone with a differing opinion.

    Obviously since there are no (((((((screenshots of the game - 2001) videos of the game - 2002),pictures of UI - 2005) more than two videos - 2006) visits of company from fan - 2007) only bunch of old videos - pre 29. 8. 2008) no gameplay video with UI - pre 18.10. 2008) no "simple character creation video" - the OP, the fans should all be forbidden from talking about the (feature x that has not been according to you sufficiently presented).

    Your constant attacking of the game tells me that you are a person who has really a lot of free time that can waste it on saving followers of game you personally do not believe to be any good from believing that their developers might be a little different than all the "normal" and "established" companies which are lately selling crappy games by huge advertisment budgets.

     

    Frankly I enjoy my never ending fight against blind faith. Im the type of person that gets into arguments with Jehovas Witnesses when they show up at my door, or with Pro life people handing out pamplets outside the grocery store.

     

    For every fanatic out there, there has to be a balance, frankly I could really give a damn about what anyone thinks of me personally. But Ive always said "Think for yourself, dont let other people tell you how to think"

    If its one thing the fanbois are doing, its shoving their Darkfall hype down everyones throat, and expecting a nice quick swallow.

    I wont be dislodged by a group of patsies who dont even get paid for the time they spend doing Aventurines viral marketing. Nor will I be dislodged by people like yourself who dont even know the facts on where I stand, so let me make this clear.

    1) I do in fact want Darkfall to launch and be successful, I plan on playing it myself.

    2) I dont have anything against Darkfall, just the Froth&Foam Fanbois(TM)

    3) I will not approach a game with open arms and blind faith, I want proof, then Im in, I wont be convinced by any manner of promises, developer double talk, or Tasos's usual carrot-on-a-stick approach.

    So to you sir, I bid good day.

  • GaladournGaladourn Member RarePosts: 1,813

    surely you've watched the latest live gameplay video? No promises - facts

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by Galadourn


    surely you've watched the latest live gameplay video? No promises - facts



     

    Im going to have to disagree with you, did you see how great the videos looked for AoC? They were awesome, far more awesome than the game turned out in fact.

    A video of a game is not the same as having your hands on a game. Any number of things can be avoided in a video, and these same things you can run into face first when you finally log in for the first time, theyre misleading at best, and should be taken with a grain of salt.

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