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God is not a game show host.
yourhead
Member Posts: 78
Life is not let's make a deal. Those lucky or dumb enough to pick the right door do not recieve "get out of hell free" cards. Although I do not profess to the truth about existence, I am confident than pouring into haunted houses on Sunday and repeating bad poetry and biased history, does NOT gain one spiritual "favor" with God.
If God is truly omnipotent and omniscient, then god is OTHER THAN existence. What I mean to say is that God cannot exist because God is the source of existence. God does not "want" things to happen any more than God "loves" you because god is the SOURCE of "wanting" and "loving." God does not invent love and then proceed to love...God is other than beings capable of love.
Because God is beyond, or outside of, or other-than existence, our silly anthropomorphic renditions of God are staggeringly pathetic.
Just some thoughts.
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Well, every theologian has grappled with what I believe to be the essential questions here.
If god is the creator, beyond human concepts of life, death, existence, and reality, can we possibly perceive divine truth?
If it is impossible, how do we know we are truly reading the word of God when we consult spiritual texts? How much of his truth has been diluted by human interpretation and perception.
The answer to those questions is essentially to have faith, but I think faith alone can be bad as well. You will never find God if you stop seeking him because you assume you've "arrived". So I've thought of this question a lot myself. Here is the answer I came up with.
If God created us, surely he would plant within us some seed of his intention. I think he did. Cultural considerations and biological defects aside, almost every person has within them the seeds of goodness: compassion, tolerance, integrity, perseverence, and many other things. Children must be taught _not_ to have these things. So I think the path to God is to follow these things as best you can. To live life in service, to be compassionate, to seek love, not war (if possible), etc. It's no accident that most religions teach these same principles.
That line of thought which ultimately manifests itself in, "God is so holy that He cannot be known" is a common greek philosphy, which most people did not nor do not believe. It is true that God cannot be fully known, but He can indeed be known in a quite profound way, which is His Word and His Son.
Which, I might as well throw out there, the problem of man is not sin, but the total unknowability of a transcendant God..
Blessings
MMO migrant.
Nope, he's just a kid with an ant farm.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
God is an authoritan leader and just like against kings and dictators we need to make a revolution and hang the motherf*cker.
Yet, this man claims to be created by God
... sounds like gameshow to me
A God is whatever a person believes a God to be - all they need is to have faith in it and it becomes real to them. If they convince enough people to follow their ideas about their God -- they can then make their God a reality to everyone around them.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
Until you ask the person to prove that their God exists..
MMO migrant.
What if that's wrong? What if God is as real as you and I and has a specific nature?
Either there is or there is not a God. Either He has made himself known to us or He has not.
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What if that's wrong? What if God is as real as you and I and has a specific nature?
Either there is or there is not a God. Either He has made himself known to us or He has not.
He exists in different dimensions , he doesn't have a physical body. Which is really the paradox , why are then physical? All I know is from my own experiences God most certainly exists , but there is no use in trying to convince others of that , only to inspire them to the higher self.
What if that's wrong? What if God is as real as you and I and has a specific nature?
Either there is or there is not a God. Either He has made himself known to us or He has not.
He exists in different dimensions , he doesn't have a physical body. Which is really the paradox , why are then physical? All I know is from my own experiences God most certainly exists , but there is no use in trying to convince others of that , only to inspire them to the higher self.
How do you know these things?
fishermage.blogspot.com
Until you ask the person to prove that their God exists..
A person can influence you with their belief in a God whether there is proof of their God or not. Their God is affecting you in your real life and therefor that God, thru the actions of it's disciples, must be a real entity.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
I did not fully understand your reply. My point being is, if I was not a Christian, and if a baal evangelist came over to my house and wanted me to worship baal, I'd ask for proof that his god is God. I will not worship a false god. If that person cannot prove that his god exists, then I will doubt in his belief. I've asked that question with my God, who is the LORD... and I have seen and tasted that He is good and He is alive today..
blessings,
MMO migrant.
You should submit yourself to Satan. God doesn't give you free blowjobs.
You can't doubt his belief in his God - you can only doubt the existence of his God. I'd also like to point out that doubt is not denial. For example:
"I doubt the existence of your God"
Is not the same as,
"I deny the existence of your God"
The fact that the baal evangelist came to your house and wanted you to worship a deity proves the existence of the deity. If the deity did not exist they would not want you to worship.
Nobody has ever worshiped a false god, but if they have, it's only in retrospection that the god is false.
Everyones current God(s) is/are the true God(s).
You cannot prove the non-existence of a deity without the consent of the ones who worship that deity. You can deny the existence of any God you wish but that denial begins and ends with you.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
That is not true at all. Just because someone thinks a god exists doesn't mean the god does exist. It just means someone thinks they do. Thought does not equate with reality. I cannot think I am in love with someone - I have to BE in love with someone. Plus, that someone must be real too, because if they aren't, the love isn't real.
A God is real if the God reveals Itself to be. YHWH (Yahweh) has done just that through the Bible/His Son.
Blessings,
MMO migrant.
You see, you and me have far more in common than me and him or you and him. All you have to do is realize that the Bible is no different from many books that have claimed to be the word of God, and that Jesus is no different than many others who have claimed to be the son of God (better than some, sure). And then we're in the same place.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson
Can we break out polythiesm and wild orgies again?
If you are not being responded to directly, you are probably on my ignore list.
And to the baal evangelist, baal is not a false god but the true god...and the evangelist has too prolly felt that they have seen n tasted and blah blah. So what makes you right n him wrong? Oh yea that is right...christians are always right cause they gots a big book.
All religions praise god...why bother arguing who is the real one? Is it really a matter of going to a church or temple n singing to some obscure god? Or perhaps just the way we treat each other?
And one question....you tasted God? So does he taste like chicken?
The Bible itself is a remarkable arrow pointing to the truth within its pages, yet most do not seek after it. I will not give an apologetic as a defense, however.
What makes him right or me right? That is a good question. The answer lies in whose god really exists? My God and another god cannot co-exist as the same time, because if there were two gods, then my God would be a liar and then cease to be God. Therefore, proof must be presented on behalf of the God being 'tested'. Elijha and the prophets of baal prayer meeting is a good example..
Blessings,
MMO migrant.
All religions are about the same God. It's just different rivers leading to the same ocean.
You see, you and me have far more in common than me and him or you and him. All you have to do is realize that the Bible is no different from many books that have claimed to be the word of God, and that Jesus is no different than many others who have claimed to be the son of God (better than some, sure). And then we're in the same place.
How many serious books on apologetics have you read?
fishermage.blogspot.com
Yes the dogmatic versions of "God" fit this description.
Thank God dogmas are just one view of him.
You see, you and me have far more in common than me and him or you and him. All you have to do is realize that the Bible is no different from many books that have claimed to be the word of God, and that Jesus is no different than many others who have claimed to be the son of God (better than some, sure). And then we're in the same place.
How many serious books on apologetics have you read?
I take a class on apologetics.
Its not really convincing, and the evidence is suggestive and cherry picked.
And yes the bible is very similar to other dogmas, and the view of God as well. The description of him fits the role of a divine ruler with ethics suitable for that time period.(Which we consider primitive) But to say that a God of the universe has these characteristics is barbaric.
You see, you and me have far more in common than me and him or you and him. All you have to do is realize that the Bible is no different from many books that have claimed to be the word of God, and that Jesus is no different than many others who have claimed to be the son of God (better than some, sure). And then we're in the same place.
How many serious books on apologetics have you read?
I take a class on apologetics.
Its not really convincing, and the evidence is suggestive and cherry picked.
And yes the bible is very similar to other dogmas, and the view of God as well. The description of him fits the role of a divine ruler with ethics suitable for that time period.(Which we consider primitive) But to say that a God of the universe has these characteristics is barbaric.
What serious books on apologetics have you read?
fishermage.blogspot.com
You see, you and me have far more in common than me and him or you and him. All you have to do is realize that the Bible is no different from many books that have claimed to be the word of God, and that Jesus is no different than many others who have claimed to be the son of God (better than some, sure). And then we're in the same place.
How many serious books on apologetics have you read?
I take a class on apologetics.
Its not really convincing, and the evidence is suggestive and cherry picked.
And yes the bible is very similar to other dogmas, and the view of God as well. The description of him fits the role of a divine ruler with ethics suitable for that time period.(Which we consider primitive) But to say that a God of the universe has these characteristics is barbaric.
What serious books on apologetics have you read?
How many have you written?
Take that commie pinko!