The ENTIRE threads purpose was to point out similiarities between DnL and Darkfall. And frankly there are a few that all of us on both sides of the fence have agreed that there are similiarities. Again you havent presented any good counter arguments. Saying that the similiarities are irrelevant and dont belong on these forums is not a defense from what a lot of us have already agreed upon when it comes to the aforementioned shared traits.
Frankly, youll have to do better than that to debunk any of this.
DarthRaiden, The ENTIRE threads purpose was to point out similiarities between DnL and Darkfall. And frankly there are a few that all of us on both sides of the fence have agreed that there are similiarities. Again you havent presented any good counter arguments. Saying that the similiarities are irrelevant and dont belong on these forums is not a defense from what a lot of us have already agreed upon when it comes to the aforementioned shared traits. Frankly, youll have to do better than that to debunk any of this.
Similarities my ass...
What about a proof that both games run by same company ? that would mean something
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
DarthRaiden, The ENTIRE threads purpose was to point out similiarities between DnL and Darkfall. And frankly there are a few that all of us on both sides of the fence have agreed that there are similiarities. Again you havent presented any good counter arguments. Saying that the similiarities are irrelevant and dont belong on these forums is not a defense from what a lot of us have already agreed upon when it comes to the aforementioned shared traits. Frankly, youll have to do better than that to debunk any of this.
Similarities my ass...
What about a proof that both games run by same company ? that would mean something
Allright do me a favor then, go thorugh all the aforementioned similarities, and give me your explanation for each individual one as to why you think its irrelevant. That would go a long way in proving that you have a grasp of the relationship between point and counter point.
DarthRaiden, The ENTIRE threads purpose was to point out similiarities between DnL and Darkfall. And frankly there are a few that all of us on both sides of the fence have agreed that there are similiarities. Again you havent presented any good counter arguments. Saying that the similiarities are irrelevant and dont belong on these forums is not a defense from what a lot of us have already agreed upon when it comes to the aforementioned shared traits. Frankly, youll have to do better than that to debunk any of this.
Similarities my ass...
What about a proof that both games run by same company ? that would mean something
Allright do me a favor then, go thorugh all the aforementioned similarities, and give me your explanation for each individual one as to why you think its irrelevant. That would go a long way in proving that you have a grasp of the relationship between point and counter point.
I know both games run by different company's ..end of similarity and troll attempts
kkthxbye
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
So, after reading through this thread and looking at all the arguments showing similarities, and the complete lack of all logic/basic intelligence in the counter-arguments, I've decided that I will NOT be buying this game on launch day. I will wait for a good bit of time afterwards. Thank you all for posting.
So, after reading through this thread and looking at all the arguments showing similarities, and the complete lack of all logic/basic intelligence in the counter-arguments, I've decided that I will NOT be buying this game on launch day. I will wait for a good bit of time afterwards. Thank you all for posting. And seriously, fanboys are scary
you know youll get to try it before you pay a dime right SO why would you wait? might as well try it : /
So, after reading through this thread and looking at all the arguments showing similarities, and the complete lack of all logic/basic intelligence in the counter-arguments, I've decided that I will NOT be buying this game on launch day. I will wait for a good bit of time afterwards. Thank you all for posting. And seriously, fanboys are scary
I even have a better suggestion, stay away for good please !
I clearly see you not DF material (hence this stupid thread/ troll attempt) so why you don't save you and the community time and never come back to check..i wish you some luck on another game that suits your level and needs tho...your dicision to stay away is to be respected and i wished more trolls would follow you example and leave...
kkthxbye
PS : i will remember you about you word if i see you name pop in here before the condition you describe is meet...
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
So, after reading through this thread and looking at all the arguments showing similarities, and the complete lack of all logic/basic intelligence in the counter-arguments, I've decided that I will NOT be buying this game on launch day. I will wait for a good bit of time afterwards. Thank you all for posting. And seriously, fanboys are scary
As downtoearth mentioned, there is supposedly going to be a trial period for people to give it a shot...
Also, we're not all that bad
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Self-confessed DF fanboy. Finally a real ****ing MMO.
I really wish I could say differently, but if truth be known, then yes, there are some similarities.
I was a DnL supporter (Christ, even back then I was looking for the Holy Grail of MMO's!) I had believed the hype and signed up to what I thought was going to be an evoloutionary step of the genre. However, call it serendipity if you will, but I could not get the launcher to work, and as such, my opinion of the game was jaundiced near the start. The only thing that kept me going back was that I thought I had uncovered one of the GM's, and also lore founders of the game to be Gary Gygax! Strange, but true, and sadly he is not around anymore.
Anyway, I digress (as usual!).
The forums in particular were very similar, probably moreso than the eventual games will be, in that we had the die-hard fans (and I was one of them, much to my embarrassment), and the nay-sayers.
Now with Darkfall, I am more sceptical, merely as a result of what happened then. I truly wish this game to be released and for it to have all of the features as promised. If so, then I will probably become one of its most staunch defenders. However, the proverb; 'once bitten, twice shy' may come into play here.
For now I shall bide my time, watch with caution, but optimism. There's no doubt that if this game does deliver, that it will be a great leap forwards, and give Dev's a different option than just constantly regurjitating the WoW-model, as seems to be the norm now.
So are there any similarities? Yes, but more so in the way people are constantly argueing in the forums.
Time will tell, so what is the point of argueing now?
I even have a better suggestion, stay away for good please ! I clearly see you not DF material (hence this stupid thread/ troll attempt) so why you don't save you and the community time and never come back to check..i wish you some luck on another game that suits your level and needs tho...your dicision to stay away is to be respected and i wished more trolls would follow you example and leave... kkthxbye PS : i will remember you about you word if i see you name pop in here before the condition you describe is meet...
What a tool. But, thisis part of what makes Forumfall so amusing. /shrug
I even have a better suggestion, stay away for good please ! I clearly see you not DF material (hence this stupid thread/ troll attempt) so why you don't save you and the community time and never come back to check..i wish you some luck on another game that suits your level and needs tho...your dicision to stay away is to be respected and i wished more trolls would follow you example and leave... kkthxbye PS : i will remember you about you word if i see you name pop in here before the condition you describe is meet...
What a tool. But, thisis part of what makes Forumfall so amusing. /shrug
hey , unlike him i was extremely fair
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
So, according to those people that see similarities between D&L and DF here, is the community hyping the game or not?
Because I've heard a lot of things here about the community spamming other sites about how good DF is going to be. On the other hand, most of the same people say that the community is very hostile. Is the community schizophrenic, or are those people contradicting themselves.
And about that thing, that the devs have asked the members of the forums to spread the game through the word-of-mouth. Wouldn't they be extremely strict on their own forums, where they can be, and protect the new members that come and ask certain questions, only to be flamed by some community members, at least to protect their own hype?
So, are they hyping their game or not?
And please, don't tell me that the D&L devs didn't hype their game, that's a contemptible lie.
Only trolls and vapor shouters have hyped darkfall over the years not devs.
That's funny because I distinctly remember one of the devs literally telling the followers of Darkfall to go out and I quote "Spread the word".
Why advertise through the proper channels and pay for it when you can have your lackies just run around spamming and doing it for you for free?
Seems to have worked out pretty well for them.
Funny they haven't purchased even one banner spot anywhere weeks before a launch. Now if you don't think that's strange then go get you're head checked out.
From beginning they clearly knew it was a game for hardcore only a nich market.
We had even 6 months ago on offcial forum only 60k members its grown to 170k members.
So dont worry about darkfall:)
But again the devs have not hyped darkfall, the fanbase and mostly the haters trolls vapor shouters who have for biggest part hyped the game.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Dont judge the Darkfall community by the people on this particular website. Basically what you have here are two groups of people duking it out, the fans, and the trolls.
The Fans seems almost blinded by expectation and hype.
The Trolls seem to be angered and skeptical by all the inferred and implied betas and release dates.
Neither side is giving and inch, and have fanatically tried to rip each others jugulars out.
Most of us though are on the fence, watching the spectacle with a sense of awe. Occasionally we might speak out, but often recoil from the fray due to the harsh backbiting and fist swinging out there in the mosh pit.
Take both of em for what they are, entertainment to pass the time while we wait for the Darkfall release.
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DarthRaiden,
The ENTIRE threads purpose was to point out similiarities between DnL and Darkfall. And frankly there are a few that all of us on both sides of the fence have agreed that there are similiarities. Again you havent presented any good counter arguments. Saying that the similiarities are irrelevant and dont belong on these forums is not a defense from what a lot of us have already agreed upon when it comes to the aforementioned shared traits.
Frankly, youll have to do better than that to debunk any of this.
Similarities my ass...
What about a proof that both games run by same company ? that would mean something
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Similarities my ass...
What about a proof that both games run by same company ? that would mean something
Allright do me a favor then, go thorugh all the aforementioned similarities, and give me your explanation for each individual one as to why you think its irrelevant. That would go a long way in proving that you have a grasp of the relationship between point and counter point.
Similarities my ass...
What about a proof that both games run by same company ? that would mean something
Allright do me a favor then, go thorugh all the aforementioned similarities, and give me your explanation for each individual one as to why you think its irrelevant. That would go a long way in proving that you have a grasp of the relationship between point and counter point.
I know both games run by different company's ..end of similarity and troll attempts
kkthxbye
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
So, after reading through this thread and looking at all the arguments showing similarities, and the complete lack of all logic/basic intelligence in the counter-arguments, I've decided that I will NOT be buying this game on launch day. I will wait for a good bit of time afterwards. Thank you all for posting.
And seriously, fanboys are scary
you know youll get to try it before you pay a dime right SO why would you wait? might as well try it : /
I even have a better suggestion, stay away for good please !
I clearly see you not DF material (hence this stupid thread/ troll attempt) so why you don't save you and the community time and never come back to check..i wish you some luck on another game that suits your level and needs tho...your dicision to stay away is to be respected and i wished more trolls would follow you example and leave...
kkthxbye
PS : i will remember you about you word if i see you name pop in here before the condition you describe is meet...
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
As downtoearth mentioned, there is supposedly going to be a trial period for people to give it a shot...
Also, we're not all that bad
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Self-confessed DF fanboy. Finally a real ****ing MMO.
Lets make some comparisons to the most recent disappointment - Warhammer: Age of Reckoning
Is it made by a large international publisher? - nope
Has it had several million dollars spent on advertising? - nope
Has it had a prolonged beta? - nope
Have the devs provided a large amount info on the game before release? - nope
Has a large amount of content been cut to meet the release date? - nope
Have the dev team produced a mmorpg before? - nope
Is the game design using a tried and tested formulae? In part
Are they allowing preorders? - Nope
Feck no similarities at all! This games gonna be amazing!!!
I really wish I could say differently, but if truth be known, then yes, there are some similarities.
I was a DnL supporter (Christ, even back then I was looking for the Holy Grail of MMO's!) I had believed the hype and signed up to what I thought was going to be an evoloutionary step of the genre. However, call it serendipity if you will, but I could not get the launcher to work, and as such, my opinion of the game was jaundiced near the start. The only thing that kept me going back was that I thought I had uncovered one of the GM's, and also lore founders of the game to be Gary Gygax! Strange, but true, and sadly he is not around anymore.
Anyway, I digress (as usual!).
The forums in particular were very similar, probably moreso than the eventual games will be, in that we had the die-hard fans (and I was one of them, much to my embarrassment), and the nay-sayers.
Now with Darkfall, I am more sceptical, merely as a result of what happened then. I truly wish this game to be released and for it to have all of the features as promised. If so, then I will probably become one of its most staunch defenders. However, the proverb; 'once bitten, twice shy' may come into play here.
For now I shall bide my time, watch with caution, but optimism. There's no doubt that if this game does deliver, that it will be a great leap forwards, and give Dev's a different option than just constantly regurjitating the WoW-model, as seems to be the norm now.
So are there any similarities? Yes, but more so in the way people are constantly argueing in the forums.
Time will tell, so what is the point of argueing now?
What a tool. But, this is part of what makes Forumfall so amusing. /shrug
What a tool. But, this is part of what makes Forumfall so amusing. /shrug
hey , unlike him i was extremely fair
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
So, according to those people that see similarities between D&L and DF here, is the community hyping the game or not?
Because I've heard a lot of things here about the community spamming other sites about how good DF is going to be. On the other hand, most of the same people say that the community is very hostile. Is the community schizophrenic, or are those people contradicting themselves.
And about that thing, that the devs have asked the members of the forums to spread the game through the word-of-mouth. Wouldn't they be extremely strict on their own forums, where they can be, and protect the new members that come and ask certain questions, only to be flamed by some community members, at least to protect their own hype?
So, are they hyping their game or not?
And please, don't tell me that the D&L devs didn't hype their game, that's a contemptible lie.
Yes they have
(these one-liners are so much fun! )
Only trolls and vapor shouters have hyped darkfall over the years not devs.
That's funny because I distinctly remember one of the devs literally telling the followers of Darkfall to go out and I quote "Spread the word".
Why advertise through the proper channels and pay for it when you can have your lackies just run around spamming and doing it for you for free?
Seems to have worked out pretty well for them.
Funny they haven't purchased even one banner spot anywhere weeks before a launch. Now if you don't think that's strange then go get you're head checked out.
From beginning they clearly knew it was a game for hardcore only a nich market.
We had even 6 months ago on offcial forum only 60k members its grown to 170k members.
So dont worry about darkfall:)
But again the devs have not hyped darkfall, the fanbase and mostly the haters trolls vapor shouters who have for biggest part hyped the game.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Dont judge the Darkfall community by the people on this particular website. Basically what you have here are two groups of people duking it out, the fans, and the trolls.
The Fans seems almost blinded by expectation and hype.
The Trolls seem to be angered and skeptical by all the inferred and implied betas and release dates.
Neither side is giving and inch, and have fanatically tried to rip each others jugulars out.
Most of us though are on the fence, watching the spectacle with a sense of awe. Occasionally we might speak out, but often recoil from the fray due to the harsh backbiting and fist swinging out there in the mosh pit.
Take both of em for what they are, entertainment to pass the time while we wait for the Darkfall release.