Nice try troll. And just incase you're serious, you try running a game, with enabled physics manipulation, twitch combat, aiming bows and spells, collision detection, with an UNLIMITED number of people fighting, at any time or place in the game. Then add to that, that its an indie company. What do you expect? Age of Conan? Age of Conan can't even run 24 man battles before it crashes, and they had a lot more money to go on than this did.
you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
Nice try troll. And just incase you're serious, you try running a game, with enabled physics manipulation, twitch combat, aiming bows and spells, collision detection, with an UNLIMITED number of people fighting, at any time or place in the game. Then add to that, that its an indie company. What do you expect? Age of Conan? Age of Conan can't even run 24 man battles before it crashes, and they had a lot more money to go on than this did.
you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots....
I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots.... I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
Funny how people find comfort in slegging down other games graphics :O
And especially WAR. WAR pretty much couldn't look anything else if they wanted to stay close to the IP. It's this whole deal of "like it or hike it".
Sure so can be said about every game. Though games like theese (DF) which have no lore reason or anything pre-set to determine how the game looks are different since they have all doors open.
Graphics does not need to be extravagant to be good, the WAY they are made to make an impression artistically speaking has to instead.
Even games in cell-shade can be really impressive graphically even though they are not, because the way the cell-shade is implemented in the game brings out the characteristics of the gameplay.
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Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots.... I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
Funny how people find comfort in slegging down other games graphics :O
And especially WAR. WAR pretty much couldn't look anything else if they wanted to stay close to the IP. It's this whole deal of "like it or hike it".
Sure so can be said about every game. Though games like theese (DF) which have no lore reason or anything pre-set to determine how the game looks are different since they have all doors open.
Graphics does not need to be extravagant to be good, the WAY they are made to make an impression artistically speaking has to instead.
Even games in cell-shade can be really impressive graphically even though they are not, because the way the cell-shade is implemented in the game brings out the characteristics of the gameplay.
Funny how people have a one track mind and read what they want to read.
Where exactly did i "sleg" down WAR's graphics? I like WAR graphics. I played WAR, and WoW (similar graphics) and thought they were both enjoyable for the exact reason you gave about the IP.
However i think Darkfall's are WAY better.
It is possible for people to have a favorite game and NOT bash various other games completely. Some people on this forum should try it sometime. I quit WAR and obviously have negative things to say about the game, but overall, its a well made good game, just not for me and what i want in a mmo.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Nice try troll. And just incase you're serious, you try running a game, with enabled physics manipulation, twitch combat, aiming bows and spells, collision detection, with an UNLIMITED number of people fighting, at any time or place in the game. Then add to that, that its an indie company. What do you expect? Age of Conan? Age of Conan can't even run 24 man battles before it crashes, and they had a lot more money to go on than this did.
you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots....
I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
Its kinda premature for you to say you like the graphics, as you havent played the game for 1 second. Perhaps to be more accurate for you to say that you like the videos graphics, since thats all youve seen.
Again a video and live gameplay are two wholely different things.
I have active subs to 4 games now, 9 accounts in total. I spent the majority of tonight playing might and magic one and talking on vent it was both fun and relaxing, except the few times I forgot to go to the tavern. It is actually the graphics that limit the game, cause the depth of a game nearly 20 years old trumps that of most new games. Darkfall seems to have us older folks by the balls on this one, anyone else dropping half a G on a beta account.
Were you born with the word SUCKER emblazoned on your forehead?
I like good gameplay but I also like good graphics. However, I'd still pick gameplay over graphics.
If you tell me to go play UO, I don't mind. However, I am currently playing a MMO with even worse graphics than UO, so I don't think that will really prove your point.
Look at the foliage, the shading, the lighting -- those are not dated in comparison to any of the MMOs on the market, aside from AoC, and we all know what a great success that one has been with the gaming community!
The Black Knight looks like pure cheese whiz, but if you look at the lighting and other things, it is obvious that it is the artistic style that is stupid, not the actual graphics engine.
The bottom line is that if you look at any current major MMO you're not going to be able to show me anything that makes those screenshots look "awful"...so, while I am willing to be objective and am hardly a blind fan of Darkfall, I don't think its as dated as you're making it out to be.
As for the gameplay vs graphics thing, it makes no sense to use 10 year old games as a basis for that argument. What most people mean when they say that is the graphics don't have to be an A+ if the gameplay is good.
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One giant map thats completely open without any invisible walls takes more from computers than tiny zones in linear tube like maps.
so it's Superb gameplay vs Superb graphics...I pick Superb gameplay.
Bullshit. If that were true everyone would still be playing Ultima Online...
UO has neither. "Everyone" never played UO to begin with it was a very niche game. It's a false choice anyway. There is a minimal level of graphics people find acceptable and a minimum level of game play. You need both. As individuals people will decide if Darkfall meets those criteria.
That time playing MMO at all was niche ..and Ultima O was the market leader ..LOL
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Nice try troll. And just incase you're serious, you try running a game, with enabled physics manipulation, twitch combat, aiming bows and spells, collision detection, with an UNLIMITED number of people fighting, at any time or place in the game. Then add to that, that its an indie company. What do you expect? Age of Conan? Age of Conan can't even run 24 man battles before it crashes, and they had a lot more money to go on than this did.
you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots....
I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
Its kinda premature for you to say you like the graphics, as you havent played the game for 1 second. Perhaps to be more accurate for you to say that you like the videos graphics, since thats all youve seen.
Again a video and live gameplay are two wholely different things.
LOL you people are sure fast to post whenever you see something that may make you feel smart. These forums are becomming a joke.
"Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots...." (See highlight above)
Seriously get over yourself arcken. You dont have to make a post everytime the wording on someones post is a little off just to make an arguement. It makes me happy though that this is the kind of stuff the trolls are resorting to.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Nice try troll. And just incase you're serious, you try running a game, with enabled physics manipulation, twitch combat, aiming bows and spells, collision detection, with an UNLIMITED number of people fighting, at any time or place in the game. Then add to that, that its an indie company. What do you expect? Age of Conan? Age of Conan can't even run 24 man battles before it crashes, and they had a lot more money to go on than this did.
you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots....
I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
Its kinda premature for you to say you like the graphics, as you havent played the game for 1 second. Perhaps to be more accurate for you to say that you like the videos graphics, since thats all youve seen.
Again a video and live gameplay are two wholely different things.
LOL you people are sure fast to post whenever you see something that may make you feel smart. These forums are becomming a joke.
"Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots...." (See highlight above)
Seriously get over yourself arcken. You dont have to make a post everytime the wording on someones post is a little off just to make an arguement. It makes me happy though that this is the kind of stuff the trolls are resorting to.
It has nothing to do with my wording and everything to do with the difference between a fraps movie and actual game play.
Tell me then, you are saying that a video ALWAYS is indicitive of the actual game play? Never in your experience has a video been better than the real product? Not one time? Ever?
DF graphics are fine if they do allow for the massive battles that they're boasting will be possible on an average computer. Comparing it to WAR is pretty dumb considering how different the two art styles are. I also think using screenshots as the main argument prior to any type of launch is straight up pointless.
The worry for me was is animations which looked kinda crappy at times but who knows how that'll turn out.
Originally posted by Krayzjoel
Yes tech has its limits but its being upgraded constantly. It can be done and should be done or you'll lose subs quickly.
Right, that's how WoW got past 11 millions subs, by upgrading it's graphics instead of adding game content. Oh wait...
Clearly, you're a little misinformed.
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Nice try troll. And just incase you're serious, you try running a game, with enabled physics manipulation, twitch combat, aiming bows and spells, collision detection, with an UNLIMITED number of people fighting, at any time or place in the game. Then add to that, that its an indie company. What do you expect? Age of Conan? Age of Conan can't even run 24 man battles before it crashes, and they had a lot more money to go on than this did.
you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots....
I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
Its kinda premature for you to say you like the graphics, as you havent played the game for 1 second. Perhaps to be more accurate for you to say that you like the videos graphics, since thats all youve seen.
Again a video and live gameplay are two wholely different things.
LOL you people are sure fast to post whenever you see something that may make you feel smart. These forums are becomming a joke.
"Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots...." (See highlight above)
Seriously get over yourself arcken. You dont have to make a post everytime the wording on someones post is a little off just to make an arguement. It makes me happy though that this is the kind of stuff the trolls are resorting to.
It has nothing to do with my wording and everything to do with the difference between a fraps movie and actual game play.
Tell me then, you are saying that a video ALWAYS is indicitive of the actual game play? Never in your experience has a video been better than the real product? Not one time? Ever?
Arcken slow down, take a breathe. Imagine the possibility that you may be wrong and/or misreading.
look at what i highlighted.
You said it would be more proper if i said that i thought they were better based on the stuff ive seen in videos since i havent played the game.
I responded by pointing out that that is exactly what i said word for word.
you are ridiculous...good lord where did i ever mention your wording???
no wonder people dont bother with you anymore on this forum, its time i follow suit. you arent here to discuss, just to make yourself feel good. I clearly said that based on the videos my opinion of the graphics etc etc....
read before you quote and respond to someone good lord.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
See thats just it, its like looking at a Playboy, and expecting the women to look that attractive, when we all know they airbrush to make the product look better than it really is.
Just because you said "based on the video and.....", you havent differentiated between the two. All you have to do is admit that since you havent played the game and seen the actual in game graphics, you dont know if you'll like them or not. All you can say is, I like the graphics in the videos and screenshots, allthough thats no real indicator of what the ingame graphics will be like. You are giving creedence to the positive possibility, while ignoring the opposing possibility, as all the fans seem to do.
Yea wow. I rarely if ever block people but you just dont make sense and are only looking for an argument. Go outside arken. I made one point, very simple, and even now you are admitting you misread and made a mistake...but instead of just saying that you are trying to make a point.
I agree that there is a difference between videos and in game graphics, i said that in my first post whether you want to believe it or not. End of story , very simple, yet you still want a debate about something that isnt there to debate.
Based on the videos it appears that the graphics are better than WAR. Thats what i said. Which clearly states that i believe if the graphics in the video are what we will see in game then they are better. Which clearly means that if they arent the same then it may be different.
Im sorry arckne but i hope you find whatever you are looking for on these boards, but im going to have to put you on block. Not because you are a troll, fanboi, flamer, etc....but because you dont listen to peoples posts and that is worse than any of the before mentioned types of poster.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Yea wow. I rarely if ever block people but you just dont make sense and are only looking for an argument. Go outside arken. I made one point, very simple, and even now you are admitting you misread and made a mistake...but instead of just saying that you are trying to make a point. I agree that there is a difference between videos and in game graphics, i said that in my first post whether you want to believe it or not. End of story , very simple, yet you still want a debate about something that isnt there to debate. Based on the videos it appears that the graphics are better than WAR. Thats what i said. Which clearly states that i believe if the graphics in the video are what we will see in game then they are better. Which clearly means that if they arent the same then it may be different. Im sorry arckne but i hope you find whatever you are looking for on these boards, but im going to have to put you on block. Not because you are a troll, fanboi, flamer, etc....but because you dont listen to peoples posts and that is worse than any of the before mentioned types of poster.
You cant compare WARs graphics with a video of Darkfall. It would be like comparing a trailer of one unreleased movie that no one has seen to an actual movie thats made it to the big screen.
Im sorry the culmination of your insults, jibes, and one liners at my expense have led you to a place of defeat and have forced you to block me. Then again, maybe Im not.
The OP is 100% correct, the screenshots are a warning.
A warning that Darkfall will not have the best graphics amoung current MMOs. A warning that Darkfall will actually have graphics that are a bit dated.
But then everyone who has followed Darkfall for any length of time, including me who hasnt been following it for even this whole year, already knows these things.
You cant compare WARs graphics with a video of Darkfall. It would be like comparing a trailer of one unreleased movie that no one has seen to an actual movie thats made it to the big screen.
Isn`t that called a teaser?
Most of us that follows Darkfall don`t really care what the name of the game is, the graphics or what company that make the game. What we love and miss is the dream Darkfall gives us. A dream of a fantasy mmorpg that`s not like EQ, WOW, WAR and the rest.
We know it is possible to make such a game, because many of us played them 10 years ago. My fear is that the graphics will be so demanding that the gameplay will suffer. I want large battles, not just an instanced 40 vs 40 zerg. If we lose some eyecandy because of it, we are willing to pay that price.
My consern is that Darkfall wont deliver despite the lack of graphics and animation. But we are hoping we`ll finally got our dreamgame
My consern is that Darkfall wont deliver despite the lack of graphics and animation. But we are hoping we`ll finally got our dreamgame
I can almost assure you right now that it's not going to be anyones dream game.
At BEST it would be a generic B grade MMO which most players forget about after the first 4 months or so and sinks into mmo obscurity with everything else.
At WORSTE -- Dark and Light 2.0
And I am basing this on all the videos that have ever been released which really show nothing more than a very VERY basic game at best.
Could they have like 90% more shit to show that has never been shown? Sure.. but I can also become president in 8 years.
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you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots....
I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Funny how people find comfort in slegging down other games graphics :O
And especially WAR. WAR pretty much couldn't look anything else if they wanted to stay close to the IP. It's this whole deal of "like it or hike it".
Sure so can be said about every game. Though games like theese (DF) which have no lore reason or anything pre-set to determine how the game looks are different since they have all doors open.
Graphics does not need to be extravagant to be good, the WAY they are made to make an impression artistically speaking has to instead.
Even games in cell-shade can be really impressive graphically even though they are not, because the way the cell-shade is implemented in the game brings out the characteristics of the gameplay.
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http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Funny how people find comfort in slegging down other games graphics :O
And especially WAR. WAR pretty much couldn't look anything else if they wanted to stay close to the IP. It's this whole deal of "like it or hike it".
Sure so can be said about every game. Though games like theese (DF) which have no lore reason or anything pre-set to determine how the game looks are different since they have all doors open.
Graphics does not need to be extravagant to be good, the WAY they are made to make an impression artistically speaking has to instead.
Even games in cell-shade can be really impressive graphically even though they are not, because the way the cell-shade is implemented in the game brings out the characteristics of the gameplay.
Funny how people have a one track mind and read what they want to read.
Where exactly did i "sleg" down WAR's graphics? I like WAR graphics. I played WAR, and WoW (similar graphics) and thought they were both enjoyable for the exact reason you gave about the IP.
However i think Darkfall's are WAY better.
It is possible for people to have a favorite game and NOT bash various other games completely. Some people on this forum should try it sometime. I quit WAR and obviously have negative things to say about the game, but overall, its a well made good game, just not for me and what i want in a mmo.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Since these grafics are so horrible, you sure do seem to spend a lot of time posting in here. Hmmm, I starting to think your Darkfalls #1 fan!
Looks like Morrowind.
you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots....
I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
Its kinda premature for you to say you like the graphics, as you havent played the game for 1 second. Perhaps to be more accurate for you to say that you like the videos graphics, since thats all youve seen.
Again a video and live gameplay are two wholely different things.
Were you born with the word SUCKER emblazoned on your forehead?
Bullshit. If that were true everyone would still be playing Ultima Online...
I like good gameplay but I also like good graphics. However, I'd still pick gameplay over graphics.
If you tell me to go play UO, I don't mind. However, I am currently playing a MMO with even worse graphics than UO, so I don't think that will really prove your point.
Are you serious??? What game are you playing now that comes close to looking that good??? This is just a horrible post...
I don't think they look "awful" at all.
Look at the foliage, the shading, the lighting -- those are not dated in comparison to any of the MMOs on the market, aside from AoC, and we all know what a great success that one has been with the gaming community!
The Black Knight looks like pure cheese whiz, but if you look at the lighting and other things, it is obvious that it is the artistic style that is stupid, not the actual graphics engine.
The bottom line is that if you look at any current major MMO you're not going to be able to show me anything that makes those screenshots look "awful"...so, while I am willing to be objective and am hardly a blind fan of Darkfall, I don't think its as dated as you're making it out to be.
As for the gameplay vs graphics thing, it makes no sense to use 10 year old games as a basis for that argument. What most people mean when they say that is the graphics don't have to be an A+ if the gameplay is good.
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Bullshit. If that were true everyone would still be playing Ultima Online...
UO has neither. "Everyone" never played UO to begin with it was a very niche game. It's a false choice anyway. There is a minimal level of graphics people find acceptable and a minimum level of game play. You need both. As individuals people will decide if Darkfall meets those criteria.
That time playing MMO at all was niche ..and Ultima O was the market leader ..LOL
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-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
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you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots....
I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
Its kinda premature for you to say you like the graphics, as you havent played the game for 1 second. Perhaps to be more accurate for you to say that you like the videos graphics, since thats all youve seen.
Again a video and live gameplay are two wholely different things.
LOL you people are sure fast to post whenever you see something that may make you feel smart. These forums are becomming a joke.
"Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots...." (See highlight above)
Seriously get over yourself arcken. You dont have to make a post everytime the wording on someones post is a little off just to make an arguement. It makes me happy though that this is the kind of stuff the trolls are resorting to.
~~
Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots....
I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
Its kinda premature for you to say you like the graphics, as you havent played the game for 1 second. Perhaps to be more accurate for you to say that you like the videos graphics, since thats all youve seen.
Again a video and live gameplay are two wholely different things.
LOL you people are sure fast to post whenever you see something that may make you feel smart. These forums are becomming a joke.
"Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots...." (See highlight above)
Seriously get over yourself arcken. You dont have to make a post everytime the wording on someones post is a little off just to make an arguement. It makes me happy though that this is the kind of stuff the trolls are resorting to.
It has nothing to do with my wording and everything to do with the difference between a fraps movie and actual game play.
Tell me then, you are saying that a video ALWAYS is indicitive of the actual game play? Never in your experience has a video been better than the real product? Not one time? Ever?
DF graphics are fine if they do allow for the massive battles that they're boasting will be possible on an average computer. Comparing it to WAR is pretty dumb considering how different the two art styles are. I also think using screenshots as the main argument prior to any type of launch is straight up pointless.
The worry for me was is animations which looked kinda crappy at times but who knows how that'll turn out.
Right, that's how WoW got past 11 millions subs, by upgrading it's graphics instead of adding game content. Oh wait...
Clearly, you're a little misinformed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Self-confessed DF fanboy. Finally a real ****ing MMO.
you're right, they dont look terrible. they look downright atrocious and they are insulting to the capability of graphics nowadays.
Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots....
I (and many others) are of the opinion that the graphics are way better than WAR, WoW so if those games are also insulting...i think DF is going to do just fine.
Its kinda premature for you to say you like the graphics, as you havent played the game for 1 second. Perhaps to be more accurate for you to say that you like the videos graphics, since thats all youve seen.
Again a video and live gameplay are two wholely different things.
LOL you people are sure fast to post whenever you see something that may make you feel smart. These forums are becomming a joke.
"Based on the most recent videos, live showings, tv coverage, and screenshots...." (See highlight above)
Seriously get over yourself arcken. You dont have to make a post everytime the wording on someones post is a little off just to make an arguement. It makes me happy though that this is the kind of stuff the trolls are resorting to.
It has nothing to do with my wording and everything to do with the difference between a fraps movie and actual game play.
Tell me then, you are saying that a video ALWAYS is indicitive of the actual game play? Never in your experience has a video been better than the real product? Not one time? Ever?
Arcken slow down, take a breathe. Imagine the possibility that you may be wrong and/or misreading.
look at what i highlighted.
You said it would be more proper if i said that i thought they were better based on the stuff ive seen in videos since i havent played the game.
I responded by pointing out that that is exactly what i said word for word.
you are ridiculous...good lord where did i ever mention your wording???
no wonder people dont bother with you anymore on this forum, its time i follow suit. you arent here to discuss, just to make yourself feel good. I clearly said that based on the videos my opinion of the graphics etc etc....
read before you quote and respond to someone good lord.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
See thats just it, its like looking at a Playboy, and expecting the women to look that attractive, when we all know they airbrush to make the product look better than it really is.
Just because you said "based on the video and.....", you havent differentiated between the two. All you have to do is admit that since you havent played the game and seen the actual in game graphics, you dont know if you'll like them or not. All you can say is, I like the graphics in the videos and screenshots, allthough thats no real indicator of what the ingame graphics will be like. You are giving creedence to the positive possibility, while ignoring the opposing possibility, as all the fans seem to do.
Yea wow. I rarely if ever block people but you just dont make sense and are only looking for an argument. Go outside arken. I made one point, very simple, and even now you are admitting you misread and made a mistake...but instead of just saying that you are trying to make a point.
I agree that there is a difference between videos and in game graphics, i said that in my first post whether you want to believe it or not. End of story , very simple, yet you still want a debate about something that isnt there to debate.
Based on the videos it appears that the graphics are better than WAR. Thats what i said. Which clearly states that i believe if the graphics in the video are what we will see in game then they are better. Which clearly means that if they arent the same then it may be different.
Im sorry arckne but i hope you find whatever you are looking for on these boards, but im going to have to put you on block. Not because you are a troll, fanboi, flamer, etc....but because you dont listen to peoples posts and that is worse than any of the before mentioned types of poster.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
You cant compare WARs graphics with a video of Darkfall. It would be like comparing a trailer of one unreleased movie that no one has seen to an actual movie thats made it to the big screen.
Im sorry the culmination of your insults, jibes, and one liners at my expense have led you to a place of defeat and have forced you to block me. Then again, maybe Im not.
The most important thing to a good MMORPG is graphics.
/sarcasm
Old Skool Ultima Online Junky
Bring back the OLD UO so I can play again
Indeed. Almost as silly as comparing released games to videos of an unreleased game.
The OP is 100% correct, the screenshots are a warning.
A warning that Darkfall will not have the best graphics amoung current MMOs. A warning that Darkfall will actually have graphics that are a bit dated.
But then everyone who has followed Darkfall for any length of time, including me who hasnt been following it for even this whole year, already knows these things.
Isn`t that called a teaser?
Most of us that follows Darkfall don`t really care what the name of the game is, the graphics or what company that make the game. What we love and miss is the dream Darkfall gives us. A dream of a fantasy mmorpg that`s not like EQ, WOW, WAR and the rest.
We know it is possible to make such a game, because many of us played them 10 years ago. My fear is that the graphics will be so demanding that the gameplay will suffer. I want large battles, not just an instanced 40 vs 40 zerg. If we lose some eyecandy because of it, we are willing to pay that price.
My consern is that Darkfall wont deliver despite the lack of graphics and animation. But we are hoping we`ll finally got our dreamgame
I can almost assure you right now that it's not going to be anyones dream game.
At BEST it would be a generic B grade MMO which most players forget about after the first 4 months or so and sinks into mmo obscurity with everything else.
At WORSTE -- Dark and Light 2.0
And I am basing this on all the videos that have ever been released which really show nothing more than a very VERY basic game at best.
Could they have like 90% more shit to show that has never been shown? Sure.. but I can also become president in 8 years.