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Diablo 3 Fans/Starcraft fans Blizzard is slaping you.
Calintz333
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http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55271
Blizzard appears to have comfired a "Microtransaction" Payment model for Diablo 3.
They also seem to have confirmed that they will charge for the USE of battle.net...
I just want to see people's feelings on this ESPECIALLY THE starcraft and Diablo fans.
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They have not said you will HAVE to play to use Battle.net, just some features of it, as long as I can join and make games I dont care what other fancy stuff is on there. Think being bounded around are custom chat channels and tornements.
It would be commercial sucide to force people to pay for Battle.net, they would lose 99% of there players overnight.
Although I am fully against any kind of micro transactions we have no idea in what form they will appear so untill then I'll wear my banner with pride.
Paying for B-Net? They would be idiots to do that. Cash shop I can handle, but paying for B-net to even play on it would be retarded. If they included that into the WoW subscription though....
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
It is hard to slam a company for trying to make money (it's what they are supposed to do afterall) but damn. They have 11 million subscribers in wow and will likely sell millions of copies of both these games when they come out.
The economy is in the crapper right now. You would think they could throw us a bone. But, like I said, companies are supposed to make money...
It's a proven historical fact that beer saved humankind.
that is friggen sh*t. F U Blizzard. I was soooo looking forward to DIII, but no way in hell i gonna play it if it is RMT
Id say thats an interesting Idea, well i guess its just a new way for them to make more money. Not that I'll be buying either of these games, not really a fan of them so I really don't care what blizz does. Now if they would only just bring Starcraft Ghost back to life. It was the only game that I was interested in playing from blizzard till some friends got me to play WoW for a while.
Ah I see. If you post during the week most of the complainers are asleep. Thus why when this topic has came up atleast twice and has been ignored.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
Again people are over reacting, we have no idea in what form these microtransactions will take.. vanity items? characrter slots? I very much doubt you can buy offensivedefensive gear and spells.
Lets wait before we pass judgment.
I'd be the first to gather together all my Blizzard games and have a bonfire if it does turn out I have pay for Bnet and/or players can buy gear. Untill then Ill wait and see what developes.
now a days thats what it seems like
but in the past gaming companies were supposed to just care about making fun games and if they got rich in the process thats a bonus. now its all about money and who gives a shit what the games turn out like
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calm that nerd rage my friend. there there its going to be ok momma's here now.
we have no idea how it is going to be implemeneted. hell you arent even sure if it will be at all. it could have absolutly no effect on you for all you know.
now worse case scenario you have to pay a little more for the hours upon hours of entertainment youll get as a hobby. trust me it will be well worth it, it is just different and isnt free.
would i rather have free everything afte i buy the games? of course. if it means better multiplayer then no big deal unless you are broke/addicted or mommy is paying for it.
cant fault a company for maximizing profits.
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The problem I see here is very similar to college classes. I am currently working on my BA in psychology. And Professors give out homework amounts as if you only had that ONE class to worry about. Very well knowing that most of their students take 12 units and work on the side.
MMORPG companies iv seen do this as well. They charge you for a game as if that was your ONLY hobby. As if you NEVER spent money on any other hobbies. (This is especially true for many Free 2 play games). I think its unrealistic for them to think this way. Personally I am going to wait and see until we get more detail on this D3 issue with the cash shop and battle net features. However if it turns out to add up to more than 20 dollars a month to play D3 and Stay competitive with higher levels and enjoy it to its full potential then I will not be playing it.
i see your point calintz. im going to just wait as well....but i would bet anything that it will be no where near 20/month to get the full experience from the game or be as competitive as you can be.
i mean unless there would be features that we cant even fathom right now...basically the multiplayer experiences of a mmo which i just dont see happening.
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I would pay 10-15 bucks for the bnet if i had to, but i wouldnt like to see a cash shop unless it was just like cosmetic gear and pets and what not, shit that isn't going to hinder the players who don't use the cash shop.
I have to be FAIR on this topic because i also defended SOE from lame SOE bashers on this site and topic.
Do not be surprised by ANY developer charging for and using micro/item malls.I stated this in another thread ,that i watched a video of all the top developers and they all stated they are having there marketing team look into it and are very much interested in it.
I also stated that the best way to get rid of the idea is by YOU the user NOT taking part or using the micro transactions.
I might also point out that ,I have stated on several occasions how sneaky Blizzard is but they AL L choose to BASH ONLY SOE.SOE is THE innovator in everything we see here as far as gaming goes in NA,companies like Blizzard are followers,they watch and wait before attempting the exact same thing.The fact is that you can bet they ALL are watching and learning from SOE,so before taking a stance AGAINST or with any developer ,remember they are all in the same boat.
We the user have to set standards in how we want the games delivered to us and by what quality we expect from them.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
If it doesn't have mode support then I'm not going to buy it,
It's a slippery slope. Game companies are experimenting with how they can charge you after you buy the box.
Maybe someday they will decide to charge based on every time you start the game. I can't wait.
I wouldn't mind it. If that would keep the scammers and morons out of the game i gladly pay for battlenet.
No. Everyone is copying WOW. SOE has worked very hard to become irrelevant and they have nearly succeeded.
im gonna die a little bit inside if bn is p2p
There's making money, and there's making a profit, and then there is just greed beyond that. Blizzard are being greedy to put Diablo 3 on a micropayment system.
calm that nerd rage my friend. there there its going to be ok momma's here now.
we have no idea how it is going to be implemeneted. hell you arent even sure if it will be at all. it could have absolutly no effect on you for all you know.
now worse case scenario you have to pay a little more for the hours upon hours of entertainment youll get as a hobby. trust me it will be well worth it, it is just different and isnt free.
would i rather have free everything afte i buy the games? of course. if it means better multiplayer then no big deal unless you are broke/addicted or mommy is paying for it.
cant fault a company for maximizing profits.
no your misunderstanding my rage here. I wouldn't care if it was pay 2 play over bnet, thats fine, BUT i would have issue if there were microtransactions in game. That to me is a deal breaker
I can't believe no one has thought of this yet:
One word,
Anti-piracy.
O_o o_O
I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand it might put an end to all the annoying spammers that plague the diablo2 channels as well as joining your games. On the other, I've been using Bnet for well as long as I've been playing games and I don't think I'd be willing to pay for it.
The micro transactions on the other hand are pushing it. I don't support games that have them in right now because I think it favors those who are willing to burn money on items rather then the ones who actually play gain them through game play. It sort of defeats the purpose of designing a rich world for you to immerse yourself in and explore if you can just spend $ to get the items that are strewn across the game world. Quite frankly I think it's just a money grab to fatten their already fat check books.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
doesnt matter, ill still buy D3 and SC2. I would buy 2 of each just to spite people who take things like this seriously, if i had the money. Just because blizzard offers "extras" at a cost, it doesnt mean you cant do what you've always been able to do and it doesnt mean you HAVE to pay for the extras, thats a choice you can make for yourself if you want to or not. And last i checked, humans still have free will.
Diablo III director Jay Wilson said today that the company does NOT have a great desire to charge a subscription fee for the upcoming revision of its multiplayer client Battle.net. However, the developer did note that Blizzard will likely monetize unknown features of the game.
"We are going to monetize features so that we get to make them," said Wilson. "We kind of have to."
Wilson noted that whatever the content would be, it would have an appropriate value to users.
Fans of map hacking and other Diablo II modifications have little to look forward to with the sequel, as Wilson shot down any talk of mod support.
"We don't have a lot of plans to do that. It would make our lives so much harder" he said, adding that despite the fact that he and many other designers got their start in modding, the team takes a strong stance on the hacking of their games.
Wilson also used the panel to reemphasize the trading aspect of Diablo III, saying that no items outside of specific quest rewards will be bound to players.
this is all that was on the website. And it shows that they will not charge a subscription fee, but they will charge for OTHER UNKOWN FEATURES (that noone else has ever seen).
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perhaps just stop playing games if your gonna be bothered by things changing, its a business they aren't working for free, they have lots of people to pay and bills to pay.
i'f its good quality and fun and i will buy them and play them.
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Come on, Blizzard.
You are an admirable, and reliable, gaming company.
Do not go by way of the dark side. I entreat you! You will hoist yourself by your own petard.*
Edit: Please consider the record of those that go from creative to greed. Please. You will make more money by being fair, honest, and reliable to your customers. You are looking for "profit-making" opportunities. Do not do this. Look for "creative-making" opportunities.