You know I put the blame for something like this and the incident that happened in Canada solely on the parents. I know some people here say that "how is it the parents fault" well basicly as a parent you have to be involved with what your kids are doing. I know my parents used to know all my friends and there parents to just be sure I was ok all the time. They watched the games that I played and if it looked to violent or not appropriate they would take it away or sit me down and have a discussion about what the game is doing and that it was not real life. Heck even "The Bugs bunny and Tweety" show was explained that it was not real and that TV and Real life are very different. Guess that is why I never hit someone with a hammer...LOL. Basicly what I am saying is Parents have to be involved and work with there kids so that they have a good grasp on reality. When all is said and don any MMO is nothing more then a GAME!!! Just like checkers, chess, monopoly, risk...etc they game in the end is something to take your mind of reality for awhile but you have to realize that it will end sometime. Another reason I say parents are not that involved in what there own kids do is this, last year I worked at Best Buy for 10 months part time, shutter, anyway near Christmas a lady and her 7 year old sone brought up some games to buy for his xbox. Now as I was scanning them in one of the games said, "Check for ID" the game was rated T by the ESRB. When I told the lady about the game being a restricted game she scoffed at me and said, "just sell it to me", "My kid wants it and he is going to get it." I laughed and thought in my head, "This is why some people should not become parents." I don't know just my 2 cents I guess.
No one could have said this better.
A weapon doesnt make a Warrior Legendary, Is the warrior who makes the weapon.
Wasnt there a story about an asian couple who let their kid starve in the next room or something after a long gaming session? The world is going insane, but thats nothing new
So if he did this play Darkfall it would be Darkfalls fault?
It was actually a white couple here in the States. Considering both parents played games all day, I'm assuming "poor white trash on welfare" described them perfectly.
I somehow doubt Darkfall will hold anyones interest for 24 hours at a time.
@ On the topic in general, I've never had any mmo where I've played more than 4-5 hours without turning it off to do something else. I may return to it later, but I've never felt the urge for "marathon" sessions.
Singleplayer rpgs are a different story. I'll stay playing a good rpg like the Final Fantasy series for 10+ hours at a time before noticing the clock.
Is 24 hours a long time to play WOW? I remember standing in line with some diehard fans at midnight for TBC and some claimed their longest play time sessions were like 35 - 42 hours straight.
Mine's about 9-10 hours I think, before I pushed myself away from the computer and staggered away in a daze.
No, wait, that's a typical day at the office..... I felt better when playing WOW.
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I am not saying as to who to blame. However, a few things. 1. 24 hours of gaming leads to hospticalization? I know everyone is different, but 24 hours of even straight gaming is not really an incredible amount. Only reason I can think of is that the kid is weak to begin with or played games so much that he is out of shape. 2. Why blame the game when the kid is allowed to play for extended periods of time? Where are the parents in this? 3. A game cannot make you play for 24 hours straight, you can. 4. The reason for the kid's hospitlalization could lie else where. Poor diet, stress, etc etc. Maybe the gaming only really triggered what was already there? 5. Better to keep an eye on that kid. The kid is only 15, the kid is at the peak of his life in terms of physiology and development. If the kid can't handle this amount of stress on the body, then something other than the fact he plays game need to be reviewed as possible causes for his collapse.
It also needs to be pointed out that he was together with a few friends laning together, he forgot to eat and whenhe finally went out in the air he collapsed and stopped breathing. Hes friends dad saved him.
It was off course several factors, but dam, when I was 15 I did spent a lot off time outside doing everything. I gamed too but I would never played 24H then, who had the time for that?
My own record is 22 hours once a long time ago in the Linage beta, now I rarely play over 8 hours, just ain't fun unless you're in a big RAID or something.
The parents do actually have to get the kids outside some times if they don't feel for doing so themselves. Get them to play some live roleplaying game or something with plastic sword if they are so obsessed by fantasy.
So when you drive for 24 hours straight and kill yourself, is it the cars fault?
1. ^^^QFT^^^
2. those who cannot handle a 24hr session must be weeded out anyway. seriously, we're going to need a tougher skin on the average gamer if we're going to d our planet from the lizard peoples.
I pity the people who think its the game's fault. Not much understanding of the world around you.
Have you heard of drugs? For example lets take morphine. Now there's a lot of morphine addicts so they should blame the morphine and stop making it? And all the people in hospital can scream in agony? Or better yet mayb they should sue the morphine making company?
Everything has its purpose and everything can be abused. You hear me? CAN be! not will be. Drugs are made to help people bt they do get abused. Games are made to entertain people bt they also do get abused.
Otherwise you could say that people are never to blame for anything. The gun manufacturers provided the murderer with the weapon so they are to blame. The same manufacturer may provide to the armed forces that keep u safe. So it depends on intentions, NOT on the product.
Few days ago, Swedes started discussing the violence of vido game could possibly causes harmful to the youth. I guess it may came to sort of grade level sorting on video games sooner or later.
It is high population that the teenagers in Sweden playing WOW, and this is why WOW is more likely to caterorize as Teen's game.
I normally would be one to blame the parents too, but in this case i got to blame the kid. At 15 years old a person should know when they have done too much, and we can thank natural selection for helping us to see who are the weak links. Lets not blam anyone else but those that are responsible for their own actions.
Obviously this kid was malnutritioned or whatever. I remember I used to not sleep for the entire weekend once Friday started when I was like 10 years old and I went to bed on around midnight sunday only tired that's all. Thats about 3 days of not sleeping and not only that, when I played video games as a kid I zoned out and hardly ate. All that and I still went to bed only sunday mildly tired.
I mean only 24 hours and he collapses? This was at no part the video game's fault. He was a freaking lightweight and his body was ill equipped for such things as he either A: Hardly eats anything or B: Doesn't eat the right things. I'm guessing this kid's family was poor. That's it.
Its not like it was anything dangerous, just a cramp. Who doesn't get craps now and then when they engage in something for long periods of time. You people should see the cramps I get at football practice when I go at someone the wrong way. Now those are deadly.
@ the one who blamed the government for doing nothing,
the government better not get involved in MMO industry, i heard a hwile back something about taxing ingame items.
anyway on topic,
hospitalized after 24 hours of WoW
24 hours of gaming? first of all once in a while a long sessions is actually fun. a human can easely stay awake for 24 hours straight... (k any student can easely stay awake for 24 hours straight) but you really have to have psychological problems if you forget to eat or drink. its way past addiction when you NEED to stay at your computer and can't take 10-20 minutes to have a meal, or hell, order pizza and eat it AS YOU PLAY!
when i do lan parties (have 5-6 friends over and play for a long period of time) the last thing we forget is the Food. industrial quantities of pizza and beer and/or energy drinks (we are all over 21)
Kid runs away and found dead
again, way past regular addiction. psychological problems once more. when some one can't find something else to do when a game is taken away, i remember back when i was in highschool my parents would take the TV and computer away if my grades where not high enough. what did i do? i read a book, i played outside, i actually did homework.
when one thing in your life takes control so much that you end up killing yourself for it is a psychological problem. and the only person to blame is A the person in questions (even if its not his fault) and the parents if the psychological problem is not genetically adhered.
GTA made me do it?
what do you call a person who cant make the difference between reality and fiction? Schizophrenic?
all in all, all these cases are psychological problems the person in question may have and blaming a game is not a right way. note: that it is always those who trash and bash and for some odd reason want the games to die are the first ones to blame those games.
I used to do 24h sessions of CoD2....and CoD2 requires far more concentration than WoW.
For a Kid to collapse like that he Was starving when he started and didn't drink anything for 24h. Don't blame WoW because some retard can't leave his comp for a lil break. The Kid would have ended up like this no matter what game he was obsessed with.
Well that's what happens when your parents don't love you and you have no self control. Poor kid, pathetic. Contrary to what may be popular belief, it's not the game's fault. To blame Blizzard (as much as I would enjoy it) is ignorant at best, plain idiotic at worst. I can't read Swedish so maybe there's something I'm missing, I'm going by the title.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
@ the one who blamed the government for doing nothing, the government better not get involved in MMO industry, i heard a hwile back something about taxing ingame items. anyway on topic, hospitalized after 24 hours of WoW 24 hours of gaming? first of all once in a while a long sessions is actually fun. a human can easely stay awake for 24 hours straight... (k any student can easely stay awake for 24 hours straight) but you really have to have psychological problems if you forget to eat or drink. its way past addiction when you NEED to stay at your computer and can't take 10-20 minutes to have a meal, or hell, order pizza and eat it AS YOU PLAY! when i do lan parties (have 5-6 friends over and play for a long period of time) the last thing we forget is the Food. industrial quantities of pizza and beer and/or energy drinks (we are all over 21)
Kid runs away and found dead again, way past regular addiction. psychological problems once more. when some one can't find something else to do when a game is taken away, i remember back when i was in highschool my parents would take the TV and computer away if my grades where not high enough. what did i do? i read a book, i played outside, i actually did homework. when one thing in your life takes control so much that you end up killing yourself for it is a psychological problem. and the only person to blame is A the person in questions (even if its not his fault) and the parents if the psychological problem is not genetically adhered.
GTA made me do it? what do you call a person who cant make the difference between reality and fiction? Schizophrenic?
all in all, all these cases are psychological problems the person in question may have and blaming a game is not a right way. note: that it is always those who trash and bash and for some odd reason want the games to die are the first ones to blame those games.
I agree with you except for the eating part. People can easily forget to eat among other things if you're having alot of fun or concentrating alot on something.
I'd say the overall message we're trying to convey is guns don't kill people. People kill people, the gun was just their choice of "how" they chose to kill. Just like this boy chose WOTLK to aggravate his already poor condition. He didn't have to be doing anything to collapse or get cramps. All he had to do was not eat and sleep for 24 hours because his body was already so weak. Stupidity on him and his parents part.
If anything this story teaches that scrawny little kids shouldn't try and go on long gaming sessions. Save that stuff for the big boys.
@ the one who blamed the government for doing nothing, the government better not get involved in MMO industry, i heard a hwile back something about taxing ingame items. anyway on topic, hospitalized after 24 hours of WoW 24 hours of gaming? first of all once in a while a long sessions is actually fun. a human can easely stay awake for 24 hours straight... (k any student can easely stay awake for 24 hours straight) but you really have to have psychological problems if you forget to eat or drink. its way past addiction when you NEED to stay at your computer and can't take 10-20 minutes to have a meal, or hell, order pizza and eat it AS YOU PLAY! when i do lan parties (have 5-6 friends over and play for a long period of time) the last thing we forget is the Food. industrial quantities of pizza and beer and/or energy drinks (we are all over 21)
Kid runs away and found dead again, way past regular addiction. psychological problems once more. when some one can't find something else to do when a game is taken away, i remember back when i was in highschool my parents would take the TV and computer away if my grades where not high enough. what did i do? i read a book, i played outside, i actually did homework. when one thing in your life takes control so much that you end up killing yourself for it is a psychological problem. and the only person to blame is A the person in questions (even if its not his fault) and the parents if the psychological problem is not genetically adhered.
GTA made me do it? what do you call a person who cant make the difference between reality and fiction? Schizophrenic?
all in all, all these cases are psychological problems the person in question may have and blaming a game is not a right way. note: that it is always those who trash and bash and for some odd reason want the games to die are the first ones to blame those games.
I agree with you except for the eating part. People can easily forget to eat among other things if you're having alot of fun or concentrating alot on something.
I'd say the overall message we're trying to convey is guns don't kill people. People kill people, the gun was just their choice of "how" they chose to kill. Just like this boy chose WOTLK to aggravate his already poor condition. He didn't have to be doing anything to collapse or get cramps. All he had to do was not eat and sleep for 24 hours because his body was already so weak. Stupidity on him and his parents part.
If anything this story teaches that scrawny little kids shouldn't try and go on long gaming sessions. Save that stuff for the big boys.
really, well i usually get hungry and my stomach lets me know it, i cant skip a meal without feeling it even if i am concentrated or having fun or whatever, there is also conditioning that takes effect.
eating everyday at the same time will make your body get used to it and if one day you dont eat at that time you will just feel weird and very hungry.
if i were to choose who would win between human instincts or WoW adiction, i will always go for human instincs.
but yeah, if you are frail and weak do not stress your body.
So many people rush to blame the parents or the kid of their stupidity, yet I'd be willing to be that around 50% of the people who posted in this thread have done a 24-hour gaming marathon, and more then once...
So many people rush to blame the parents or the kid of their stupidity, yet I'd be willing to be that around 50% of the people who posted in this thread have done a 24-hour gaming marathon, and more then once...
Yes but those of us who have, know our limits and know when to quit. This kid, for whatever reason, decided to go beyond his limits and paid for it. That is why we blame him. His parents obviously werent checking on him to see if he was ok and that is where their blame comes in. I dont see a problem with allowing your kid to game for 24 hours straight if they can handle it. Hell, I was doing that way back when I was 13-14 playing text based MUDs. When my son gets to that age, I wont have any problem with him pulling off a 24 hour gaming session here or there, but I will make sure he eats, drinks, etc..
And how is it so much the fault of the parents...as it is of the kid himself? Seriously if the kid at 15 is too dumb to take a break.... I hope the parents take away his PC for a few months....that is what I would do.
Agreed. At 15 years of existance in the world he should know better. There is just no accounting for taste or natural selection.
Firstly, they should have taught him to have a bit more common sense as he was growing up.
Secondly, until he is mature enough to get a place of his own it is their responsibilty to ensure he is OK.
Whilst it isn't the parents fault if a kid doesn't grow up to be super intelligent, unless there are mental health issues there is no excuse for them to have no idea how to cope with real life & no common sense at all.
Just my opinion of course.
If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?
I blame the parents on two separate counts. Firstly, they should have taught him to have a bit more common sense as he was growing up. Secondly, until he is mature enough to get a place of his own it is their responsibilty to ensure he is OK. Whilst it isn't the parents fault if a kid doesn't grow up to be super intelligent, unless there are mental health issues there is no excuse for them to have no idea how to cope with real life & no common sense at all. Just my opinion of course.
I think the parents are partly responsible, but at 15 most parents think their "Young adult is smarter than that" Besides he was probably playing through the day, and you half to consider, his parents thought he was going to go to bed in a while. It is hardly possible to keep tabs when you are trying to get a nights rest youself, should parents be forced to put cameras in their 15 yearold adolencents room to make sure he goes to bed? And if they fail to watch him like 24/7, they are bad parents.
Anyone who is 15+ knows in a practical sense wright from wrong, although stupidity gets in the way of that sometimes. I wont even get started on how his parents raised him, there is no rulebook that is anonymously correct on the matter. For all we know his parents where the most loving people to walk the earth. But that does not stop a 15 yearold from playing allnighters.
Also, 15 year olds have enough maturity in the household to have his own place of privacy, whether he is stupid or not is a completely different matter. For all we know he is an A+ student at school, that doesnt stop you from making stupid choices. Age does not affect this, With what you say, he would need 24/7 supervision till he dies of age. Hell this kid might even act smarter than his own father, and act more mature than most adults, but that doesnt mean he aint stupid.
My point is, this kind of stupity goes into there 20's 30's and 40's. It keep going, Are we going to blame his parrents when dies in a car crash at the age 55? Your opinion just doesnt hold up. Parents just cannot be 100% responsible.
@15 years old, do the parents share part of the blame? of course. However a lot of people are in denial in this thread about the addictive qualities of MMOs, especially WoW which is designed around giving player carrots on a stick and getting them hooked. Some of us can control the amount of time play and balance it with real life, but when you talk about young teens and even younger, they may not have developed that sense yet. This is where the parents should step in. Tenspotting's analogy of it being the car's fault if someone drives for 24 hours is just ridiculous as the car doesnt had addictive qualities and that is just someone being stupid. FACT is that MMOs, especially ones designed round the WoW model, have serious addictive mechanics that younger kids may not have enough sense to balance. cliff notes: parents played a big part in this screw up, but the MMO was hardly blameless, if anything its 50/50.
so, the parents should allow their child to play a game for so many hours, every single day, until the child is addicted?
as soon as little johnny's grades start dropping, he's late for supper cuz he has to finish an instance, or whatever the bloody change is that is indicative of something "not good"; that game gets gone, or seriously toned down.
of course if mommy is a pill head and daddy is a drunk; then, little johnny is just following in his parents' footsteps.
the entire jist of your post is that mmos are addictive. yes, they're intended to be that way in order to keep that monthly sub coming in. to say that the parents are ONLY 50% at fault is like saying they're only 50% at fault for little johnny watching some XXX channel on tv nonstop.
where are the parents while this addiction is taking over?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
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No one could have said this better.
A weapon doesnt make a Warrior Legendary, Is the warrior who makes the weapon.
So if he did this play Darkfall it would be Darkfalls fault?
@originalegg:
It was actually a white couple here in the States. Considering both parents played games all day, I'm assuming "poor white trash on welfare" described them perfectly.
@Briansho:
I somehow doubt Darkfall will hold anyones interest for 24 hours at a time.
@ On the topic in general, I've never had any mmo where I've played more than 4-5 hours without turning it off to do something else. I may return to it later, but I've never felt the urge for "marathon" sessions.
Singleplayer rpgs are a different story. I'll stay playing a good rpg like the Final Fantasy series for 10+ hours at a time before noticing the clock.
Is 24 hours a long time to play WOW? I remember standing in line with some diehard fans at midnight for TBC and some claimed their longest play time sessions were like 35 - 42 hours straight.
Mine's about 9-10 hours I think, before I pushed myself away from the computer and staggered away in a daze.
No, wait, that's a typical day at the office..... I felt better when playing WOW.
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It also needs to be pointed out that he was together with a few friends laning together, he forgot to eat and whenhe finally went out in the air he collapsed and stopped breathing. Hes friends dad saved him.
It was off course several factors, but dam, when I was 15 I did spent a lot off time outside doing everything. I gamed too but I would never played 24H then, who had the time for that?
My own record is 22 hours once a long time ago in the Linage beta, now I rarely play over 8 hours, just ain't fun unless you're in a big RAID or something.
The parents do actually have to get the kids outside some times if they don't feel for doing so themselves. Get them to play some live roleplaying game or something with plastic sword if they are so obsessed by fantasy.
1. ^^^QFT^^^
2. those who cannot handle a 24hr session must be weeded out anyway. seriously, we're going to need a tougher skin on the average gamer if we're going to d our planet from the lizard peoples.
I pity the people who think its the game's fault. Not much understanding of the world around you.
Have you heard of drugs? For example lets take morphine. Now there's a lot of morphine addicts so they should blame the morphine and stop making it? And all the people in hospital can scream in agony? Or better yet mayb they should sue the morphine making company?
Everything has its purpose and everything can be abused. You hear me? CAN be! not will be. Drugs are made to help people bt they do get abused. Games are made to entertain people bt they also do get abused.
Otherwise you could say that people are never to blame for anything. The gun manufacturers provided the murderer with the weapon so they are to blame. The same manufacturer may provide to the armed forces that keep u safe. So it depends on intentions, NOT on the product.
One of these guys by chance?
Here is the English news about it.
http://www.thelocal.se/15742/20081117/
Few days ago, Swedes started discussing the violence of vido game could possibly causes harmful to the youth. I guess it may came to sort of grade level sorting on video games sooner or later.
It is high population that the teenagers in Sweden playing WOW, and this is why WOW is more likely to caterorize as Teen's game.
No wonder adults don't like to play WOW.
I normally would be one to blame the parents too, but in this case i got to blame the kid. At 15 years old a person should know when they have done too much, and we can thank natural selection for helping us to see who are the weak links. Lets not blam anyone else but those that are responsible for their own actions.
Obviously this kid was malnutritioned or whatever. I remember I used to not sleep for the entire weekend once Friday started when I was like 10 years old and I went to bed on around midnight sunday only tired that's all. Thats about 3 days of not sleeping and not only that, when I played video games as a kid I zoned out and hardly ate. All that and I still went to bed only sunday mildly tired.
I mean only 24 hours and he collapses? This was at no part the video game's fault. He was a freaking lightweight and his body was ill equipped for such things as he either A: Hardly eats anything or B: Doesn't eat the right things. I'm guessing this kid's family was poor. That's it.
Its not like it was anything dangerous, just a cramp. Who doesn't get craps now and then when they engage in something for long periods of time. You people should see the cramps I get at football practice when I go at someone the wrong way. Now those are deadly.
@ the one who blamed the government for doing nothing,
the government better not get involved in MMO industry, i heard a hwile back something about taxing ingame items.
anyway on topic,
hospitalized after 24 hours of WoW
24 hours of gaming? first of all once in a while a long sessions is actually fun. a human can easely stay awake for 24 hours straight... (k any student can easely stay awake for 24 hours straight) but you really have to have psychological problems if you forget to eat or drink. its way past addiction when you NEED to stay at your computer and can't take 10-20 minutes to have a meal, or hell, order pizza and eat it AS YOU PLAY!
when i do lan parties (have 5-6 friends over and play for a long period of time) the last thing we forget is the Food. industrial quantities of pizza and beer and/or energy drinks (we are all over 21)
Kid runs away and found dead
again, way past regular addiction. psychological problems once more. when some one can't find something else to do when a game is taken away, i remember back when i was in highschool my parents would take the TV and computer away if my grades where not high enough. what did i do? i read a book, i played outside, i actually did homework.
when one thing in your life takes control so much that you end up killing yourself for it is a psychological problem. and the only person to blame is A the person in questions (even if its not his fault) and the parents if the psychological problem is not genetically adhered.
GTA made me do it?
what do you call a person who cant make the difference between reality and fiction? Schizophrenic?
all in all, all these cases are psychological problems the person in question may have and blaming a game is not a right way. note: that it is always those who trash and bash and for some odd reason want the games to die are the first ones to blame those games.
Yea this is BS.
Only 24h? And it's only WoW?
I used to do 24h sessions of CoD2....and CoD2 requires far more concentration than WoW.
For a Kid to collapse like that he Was starving when he started and didn't drink anything for 24h. Don't blame WoW because some retard can't leave his comp for a lil break. The Kid would have ended up like this no matter what game he was obsessed with.
Well that's what happens when your parents don't love you and you have no self control. Poor kid, pathetic. Contrary to what may be popular belief, it's not the game's fault. To blame Blizzard (as much as I would enjoy it) is ignorant at best, plain idiotic at worst. I can't read Swedish so maybe there's something I'm missing, I'm going by the title.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
I agree with you except for the eating part. People can easily forget to eat among other things if you're having alot of fun or concentrating alot on something.
I'd say the overall message we're trying to convey is guns don't kill people. People kill people, the gun was just their choice of "how" they chose to kill. Just like this boy chose WOTLK to aggravate his already poor condition. He didn't have to be doing anything to collapse or get cramps. All he had to do was not eat and sleep for 24 hours because his body was already so weak. Stupidity on him and his parents part.
If anything this story teaches that scrawny little kids shouldn't try and go on long gaming sessions. Save that stuff for the big boys.
I agree with you except for the eating part. People can easily forget to eat among other things if you're having alot of fun or concentrating alot on something.
I'd say the overall message we're trying to convey is guns don't kill people. People kill people, the gun was just their choice of "how" they chose to kill. Just like this boy chose WOTLK to aggravate his already poor condition. He didn't have to be doing anything to collapse or get cramps. All he had to do was not eat and sleep for 24 hours because his body was already so weak. Stupidity on him and his parents part.
If anything this story teaches that scrawny little kids shouldn't try and go on long gaming sessions. Save that stuff for the big boys.
really, well i usually get hungry and my stomach lets me know it, i cant skip a meal without feeling it even if i am concentrated or having fun or whatever, there is also conditioning that takes effect.
eating everyday at the same time will make your body get used to it and if one day you dont eat at that time you will just feel weird and very hungry.
if i were to choose who would win between human instincts or WoW adiction, i will always go for human instincs.
but yeah, if you are frail and weak do not stress your body.
So many people rush to blame the parents or the kid of their stupidity, yet I'd be willing to be that around 50% of the people who posted in this thread have done a 24-hour gaming marathon, and more then once...
My longest was about 13 hours. That was in diablo 2. 24 hours I couldn't handle. The headache and ass ache.
Yes but those of us who have, know our limits and know when to quit. This kid, for whatever reason, decided to go beyond his limits and paid for it. That is why we blame him. His parents obviously werent checking on him to see if he was ok and that is where their blame comes in. I dont see a problem with allowing your kid to game for 24 hours straight if they can handle it. Hell, I was doing that way back when I was 13-14 playing text based MUDs. When my son gets to that age, I wont have any problem with him pulling off a 24 hour gaming session here or there, but I will make sure he eats, drinks, etc..
Warp
24 hour sessions? man I miss those old EQ power sessions.
Now with my RL commitments I can't log into a single game for more than four hours at a time.
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Some people call me an asshole when I have no sympathy for people who die because of their own extreme stupidity.
If I don't know the person, and if its because of extreme stupidity that they die, than I have no reason to cry and whine over it.
Just my 2 coppers.
Agreed. At 15 years of existance in the world he should know better. There is just no accounting for taste or natural selection.
I blame the parents on two separate counts.
Firstly, they should have taught him to have a bit more common sense as he was growing up.
Secondly, until he is mature enough to get a place of his own it is their responsibilty to ensure he is OK.
Whilst it isn't the parents fault if a kid doesn't grow up to be super intelligent, unless there are mental health issues there is no excuse for them to have no idea how to cope with real life & no common sense at all.
Just my opinion of course.
If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?
Take the Hecatomb? TCG What Is Your Doom? quiz.
WHat a schmuck.
I think the parents are partly responsible, but at 15 most parents think their "Young adult is smarter than that" Besides he was probably playing through the day, and you half to consider, his parents thought he was going to go to bed in a while. It is hardly possible to keep tabs when you are trying to get a nights rest youself, should parents be forced to put cameras in their 15 yearold adolencents room to make sure he goes to bed? And if they fail to watch him like 24/7, they are bad parents.
Anyone who is 15+ knows in a practical sense wright from wrong, although stupidity gets in the way of that sometimes. I wont even get started on how his parents raised him, there is no rulebook that is anonymously correct on the matter. For all we know his parents where the most loving people to walk the earth. But that does not stop a 15 yearold from playing allnighters.
Also, 15 year olds have enough maturity in the household to have his own place of privacy, whether he is stupid or not is a completely different matter. For all we know he is an A+ student at school, that doesnt stop you from making stupid choices. Age does not affect this, With what you say, he would need 24/7 supervision till he dies of age. Hell this kid might even act smarter than his own father, and act more mature than most adults, but that doesnt mean he aint stupid.
My point is, this kind of stupity goes into there 20's 30's and 40's. It keep going, Are we going to blame his parrents when dies in a car crash at the age 55? Your opinion just doesnt hold up. Parents just cannot be 100% responsible.
so, the parents should allow their child to play a game for so many hours, every single day, until the child is addicted?
as soon as little johnny's grades start dropping, he's late for supper cuz he has to finish an instance, or whatever the bloody change is that is indicative of something "not good"; that game gets gone, or seriously toned down.
of course if mommy is a pill head and daddy is a drunk; then, little johnny is just following in his parents' footsteps.
the entire jist of your post is that mmos are addictive. yes, they're intended to be that way in order to keep that monthly sub coming in. to say that the parents are ONLY 50% at fault is like saying they're only 50% at fault for little johnny watching some XXX channel on tv nonstop.
where are the parents while this addiction is taking over?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?