Well lets looks at facts, and not just opinions and someones few on logic. Given the amount of time left in the year it can be launched. They have stated things like this:
"It's because there's no way we'll miss a release date and we're not going to just set a date as a goal, and either postpone or be forced to release something unfinished. We resolve to stick with our release date because we know how people tend to plan around this as far as organization, time and hardware goes when they're looking to make a commitment to an MMORPG, especially a competitive one like Darkfall."
And they have stated Darkfall will launch this year. There is no reason to doubt it NOT launching this year.
Xzyax, unless you are a beta tester you have no real idea whats going on. From the quotes given today, I would assume the game is pretty much finished.
Well lets looks at facts, and not just opinions and someones few on logic. Given the amount of time left in the year it can be launched. They have stated things like this: "It's because there's no way we'll miss a release date and we're not going to just set a date as a goal, and either postpone or be forced to release something unfinished. We resolve to stick with our release date because we know how people tend to plan around this as far as organization, time and hardware goes when they're looking to make a commitment to an MMORPG, especially a competitive one like Darkfall." And they have stated Darkfall will launch this year. There is no reason to doubt it NOT launching this year.
Xzyax, unless you are a beta tester you have no real idea whats going on. From the quotes given today, I would assume the game is pretty much finished.
-Phorsoth--Ethnine-
wasnt it originally supposed to come out 2006? then 2007?
if they do things properelly (highly recomended) then no way is it coming out this year. if they do things in a silly way (short beta's without any real changes) then maybe they might get it out by the end of the year.
i think the poll sums up peoples opinions pretty well on the matter...
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Doubt it. I'd be more than happy if i get in the beta this year though.
"The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands, To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming! On we sweep with threshing oar, our only goal will be the western shore."
It launches when it is ready. The devs decide when it is ready. Honestly, only a beta tester or a dev could answer your question in good faith. There is too little information for the rest of us.
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
I remember now why I never come here anymore...you guys simply don't look up the facts and read. Find me one thing that would delay the game from the testers quotes given this morning. There isn't one, every problem they listed can be fixed with a weeks worth of work, if not less. Anyone that has taken some programming should know that.
"That's a double negative, so you're actually saying that there's no reason to believe that it will release."
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Your English skills are abysmal. A double negative turns into a positive, not a negative, so he is really saying, "There is reason to believe that it will release this year".
I remember now why I never come here anymore...you guys simply don't look up the facts and read. Find me one thing that would delay the game from the testers quotes given this morning. There isn't one, every problem they listed can be fixed with a weeks worth of work, if not less. Anyone that has taken some programming should know that. -Phorsoth--Ethnine-
[quote]That's a double negative, so you're actually saying that there's no reason to believe that it will release.[/quote] Your English skills are abysmal. A double negative turns into a positive, not a negative, so he is really saying, "There is reason to believe that it will release this year". A durrr
LOL.... Stupidity trying to Kill Stupidity..
Originally posted by phorsoth
There is no reason to doubt it NOT launching this year.
Using simple math, we remove two (of the 3) negatives no and NOT (and doubt, just as much as hardly constitutes a negative.. )
We get
Originally posted by phorsoth
There is reason to doubt it launching this year.
It's cute though..
"Luckily I know that while you make nonsnese baiting threads that get locked....threads I make get sticked by the mods on this forum...." -imbant (greatest board warrior EVER) Darkfall Countdown: http://darkfallreleasedate.com/
Well lets looks at facts, and not just opinions and someones few on logic. Given the amount of time left in the year it can be launched. They have stated things like this: "It's because there's no way we'll miss a release date and we're not going to just set a date as a goal, and either postpone or be forced to release something unfinished. We resolve to stick with our release date because we know how people tend to plan around this as far as organization, time and hardware goes when they're looking to make a commitment to an MMORPG, especially a competitive one like Darkfall." And they have stated Darkfall will launch this year. There is no reason to doubt it NOT launching this year.
Xzyax, unless you are a beta tester you have no real idea whats going on. From the quotes given today, I would assume the game is pretty much finished.
-Phorsoth--Ethnine-
Really?
Even though there is nothing to indicate that they have done any testing at all beyond the basics of getting started? Even though there is zero indication that they have done any testing or balancing on ANY of the high-end content? You are that convinced that it is finished?
Well, then you read a lot more into those quotes than what I saw.
How did you like the Beta-testers summary of how City Building and Siege war-fare worked? Did you like they way they have the balanced the high-level melee skills vs. the high-level Ranged and Magic skills? How about all that exciting detailed reports of Ship Building and Naval Combat... I liked that part as well and was very impressed with how far into the testing they are.
Oh wait... that was just me thinking that was how far along they should be with only 6 weeks left. Nevermind.
I remember now why I never come here anymore...you guys simply don't look up the facts and read. Find me one thing that would delay the game from the testers quotes given this morning. There isn't one, every problem they listed can be fixed with a weeks worth of work, if not less. Anyone that has taken some programming should know that.
-Phorsoth--Ethnine-
Umm how about the part where the tester mentions he can't really judge because of the turned off / not enabled content? If they haven't tested it yet its hard to say there might not be bugs or other problems causing a delay. Aventurine is a relatively small group, thus quick fixes might not be so quick. Are these not fatcs or do you just believe they are unwarrented, and should be glossed over?
edit. PS don't run away and hide just because people don't always agree with your Opinions. Debate is good, just try and come back with alittle better arguement.
You people really think DF is going to launch this year? Lol give me a break..
You think they are going to announce "Good news players, DF is launching next Thursday!". The fact that they said it is going to be launched in 2008 means NOTHING, and everyone who has been following DF knows that. MMO's usually set launch date months in advance to maximize hype and pre-orders. Aventurine has been quiet about the launch date and that means only one thing - launch date has been moved to 2009.
It would be awesome if they launched in December but it's not going to happen, trust me. Stop being naive.
----------------------------- Originally posted by Frobner "Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
2008 launch? Please, no. I'd be happy if they have a real open beta in 2008. I think the dream of a 2008 launch is... well... a nightmare. You can't beta test a game for one month and then rush it to production.
Umm how about the part where the tester mentions he can't really judge because of the turned off / not enabled content? If they haven't tested it yet its hard to say there might not be bugs or other problems causing a delay. Aventurine is a relatively small group, thus quick fixes might not be so quick. Are these not fatcs or do you just believe they are unwarrented, and should be glossed over? edit. PS don't run away and hide just because people don't always agree with your Opinions. Debate is good, just try and come back with alittle better arguement.
Content that hasn't been released to the beta is not even beta tested, it's still alpha content. If they still have content in Alpha, there WILL be bugs in 6 weeks.
The closest example I have is eve-online. It has a similar total freedom of play model, and bugs are the #1 issue that the developers deal with. There needs to be a LONG beta with ALL features in to weed out the problems and balance issues. Each system interacts with other systems, and only by having all systems tested together with thousands of players does anything important get caught and fixed.
Personally, the TOTAL lack of NDA breakers for such a hyped game sounds like the beta is TINY right now. There's so many people who would NDA break, even many hardcore fans...
To be honest, this looks like Vanguard, DnL, ect. There's one of these games every couple of years, and it's about time for another huge failure. (the above is total opinion based on experience, not any facts)
Find me a quote that says that...cause there isn't one. They have never given a launch date. So in answer to your question, no.
-Phorsoth--Ethnine-
sure thing
From Warcry Dev Journal 26
There were also many questions on the public beta and release dates. To this I can say now, that during a planning meeting we determined that our launch date will be inside 2008, with the public beta preceding it by a few weeks. This is official and internally we're a lot more specific, but pending an announcement, we cannot say more at this time.
May 23rd update
I never said that public beta would be two weeks. I said several weeks. Public beta will be as long as it needs to be. We hope and we're working hard so that it won't need to be very long. The clan beta will likely be a stage of public beta. The announcement of launch within the year is an official company commitment and it's not a guestimate.
Yes, I think it will release this year. No, I do not think it is ready.
This saddens me because the entire premise of Darkfall is so appealing to me that I would take lesser graphics and animations just for the gameplay but I think Adventurine is going to kick DF out the door too early to all of us rabidly waiting to get our hands on and disappoint us greatly and end up dead within 6 months.
This is not what I want to happen, just how I see things going. I really want DF to suceed.
Yes, I think it will release this year. No, I do not think it is ready. This saddens me because the entire premise of Darkfall is so appealing to me that I would take lesser graphics and animations just for the gameplay but I think Adventurine is going to kick DF out the door too early to all of us rabidly waiting to get our hands on and disappoint us greatly and end up dead within 6 months. This is not what I want to happen, just how I see things going. I really want DF to suceed.
I agree.
They're going to pull a Shaowbane when Ubisoft finally kicked it out to sink or swim.
The comments from the Beta testers have made me lose all hope in this game.
After 7 years of development they still have an undeveloped crafting system, the UI is poor, there are technical issues and bugs and a vast amount of the game is still untested (all I heard about was people killing Goblins).
Yes they might release in '08 but it will not be complete by any stretch of the imagination. I honestly think this game needs another 4-5 years of development from the comments I've seen.
It will be complete and for all you whiny bois it will be succesfull for hardcore darkfall fans, prolly much to hardcore for you guys but it will be awesome, now all who keep whine and trash talk about Darkfall go play some themepark war aoc wow======>that way
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Comments
For the sake of the game I HOPE for no
(because I do not think it is ready by MY interpretation of the reports of the CLOSED Beta Testers)
Well lets looks at facts, and not just opinions and someones few on logic. Given the amount of time left in the year it can be launched. They have stated things like this:
"It's because there's no way we'll miss a release date and we're not going to just set a date as a goal, and either postpone or be forced to release something unfinished. We resolve to stick with our release date because we know how people tend to plan around this as far as organization, time and hardware goes when they're looking to make a commitment to an MMORPG, especially a competitive one like Darkfall."
And they have stated Darkfall will launch this year. There is no reason to doubt it NOT launching this year.
Xzyax, unless you are a beta tester you have no real idea whats going on. From the quotes given today, I would assume the game is pretty much finished.
-Phorsoth--Ethnine-
hehe
wasnt it originally supposed to come out 2006? then 2007?
That's a double negative, so you're actually saying that there's no reason to believe that it will release.
Find me a quote that says that...cause there isn't one. They have never given a launch date. So in answer to your question, no.
-Phorsoth--Ethnine-
hehe
if they do things properelly (highly recomended) then no way is it coming out this year. if they do things in a silly way (short beta's without any real changes) then maybe they might get it out by the end of the year.
i think the poll sums up peoples opinions pretty well on the matter...
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Doubt it. I'd be more than happy if i get in the beta this year though.
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
On we sweep with threshing oar, our only goal will be the western shore."
It launches when it is ready. The devs decide when it is ready. Honestly, only a beta tester or a dev could answer your question in good faith. There is too little information for the rest of us.
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
I remember now why I never come here anymore...you guys simply don't look up the facts and read. Find me one thing that would delay the game from the testers quotes given this morning. There isn't one, every problem they listed can be fixed with a weeks worth of work, if not less. Anyone that has taken some programming should know that.
-Phorsoth--Ethnine-
hehe
"That's a double negative, so you're actually saying that there's no reason to believe that it will release."
------------
Your English skills are abysmal. A double negative turns into a positive, not a negative, so he is really saying, "There is reason to believe that it will release this year".
A durrr
I suspect that it will. It will probably have a few non game breaking bugs or annoyances though.
Hire this guy!
LOL.... Stupidity trying to Kill Stupidity..
Originally posted by phorsoth
There is no reason to doubt it NOT launching this year.
Using simple math, we remove two (of the 3) negatives no and NOT (and doubt, just as much as hardly constitutes a negative.. )
We get
Originally posted by phorsoth
There is reason to doubt it launching this year.
It's cute though..
"Luckily I know that while you make nonsnese baiting threads that get locked....threads I make get sticked by the mods on this forum...." -imbant (greatest board warrior EVER)
Darkfall Countdown: http://darkfallreleasedate.com/
SupderD beat me to it.
So, to clarify, I am right, yes? Haha
Look at the poll results. What happens to Tasos' credibility if it doesn't release in 2008?
Really?
Even though there is nothing to indicate that they have done any testing at all beyond the basics of getting started? Even though there is zero indication that they have done any testing or balancing on ANY of the high-end content? You are that convinced that it is finished?
Well, then you read a lot more into those quotes than what I saw.
How did you like the Beta-testers summary of how City Building and Siege war-fare worked? Did you like they way they have the balanced the high-level melee skills vs. the high-level Ranged and Magic skills? How about all that exciting detailed reports of Ship Building and Naval Combat... I liked that part as well and was very impressed with how far into the testing they are.
Oh wait... that was just me thinking that was how far along they should be with only 6 weeks left. Nevermind.
Umm how about the part where the tester mentions he can't really judge because of the turned off / not enabled content? If they haven't tested it yet its hard to say there might not be bugs or other problems causing a delay. Aventurine is a relatively small group, thus quick fixes might not be so quick. Are these not fatcs or do you just believe they are unwarrented, and should be glossed over?
edit. PS don't run away and hide just because people don't always agree with your Opinions. Debate is good, just try and come back with alittle better arguement.
You people really think DF is going to launch this year? Lol give me a break..
You think they are going to announce "Good news players, DF is launching next Thursday!". The fact that they said it is going to be launched in 2008 means NOTHING, and everyone who has been following DF knows that. MMO's usually set launch date months in advance to maximize hype and pre-orders. Aventurine has been quiet about the launch date and that means only one thing - launch date has been moved to 2009.
It would be awesome if they launched in December but it's not going to happen, trust me. Stop being naive.
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
2008 launch? Please, no. I'd be happy if they have a real open beta in 2008. I think the dream of a 2008 launch is... well... a nightmare. You can't beta test a game for one month and then rush it to production.
Content that hasn't been released to the beta is not even beta tested, it's still alpha content. If they still have content in Alpha, there WILL be bugs in 6 weeks.
The closest example I have is eve-online. It has a similar total freedom of play model, and bugs are the #1 issue that the developers deal with. There needs to be a LONG beta with ALL features in to weed out the problems and balance issues. Each system interacts with other systems, and only by having all systems tested together with thousands of players does anything important get caught and fixed.
Personally, the TOTAL lack of NDA breakers for such a hyped game sounds like the beta is TINY right now. There's so many people who would NDA break, even many hardcore fans...
To be honest, this looks like Vanguard, DnL, ect. There's one of these games every couple of years, and it's about time for another huge failure. (the above is total opinion based on experience, not any facts)
sure thing
From Warcry Dev Journal 26
There were also many questions on the public beta and release dates. To this I can say now, that during a planning meeting we determined that our launch date will be inside 2008, with the public beta preceding it by a few weeks. This is official and internally we're a lot more specific, but pending an announcement, we cannot say more at this time.
May 23rd update
I never said that public beta would be two weeks. I said several weeks. Public beta will be as long as it needs to be. We hope and we're working hard so that it won't need to be very long. The clan beta will likely be a stage of public beta. The announcement of launch within the year is an official company commitment and it's not a guestimate.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=81809
Yes, I think it will release this year. No, I do not think it is ready.
This saddens me because the entire premise of Darkfall is so appealing to me that I would take lesser graphics and animations just for the gameplay but I think Adventurine is going to kick DF out the door too early to all of us rabidly waiting to get our hands on and disappoint us greatly and end up dead within 6 months.
This is not what I want to happen, just how I see things going. I really want DF to suceed.
I agree.
They're going to pull a Shaowbane when Ubisoft finally kicked it out to sink or swim.
Can't say I even blame them though after 7 years.
The comments from the Beta testers have made me lose all hope in this game.
After 7 years of development they still have an undeveloped crafting system, the UI is poor, there are technical issues and bugs and a vast amount of the game is still untested (all I heard about was people killing Goblins).
Yes they might release in '08 but it will not be complete by any stretch of the imagination. I honestly think this game needs another 4-5 years of development from the comments I've seen.
It will be complete and for all you whiny bois it will be succesfull for hardcore darkfall fans, prolly much to hardcore for you guys but it will be awesome, now all who keep whine and trash talk about Darkfall go play some themepark war aoc wow======>that way
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.