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I would seriously buy this game but cannot get answers.

yourheadyourhead Member Posts: 78

The forum is useless for gaining information because everytime somebody posts a legitimate question regarding the release date, the post is either banned or not answered.

Going through previous posts from the developer side, I see a long line of obfuscations.

I then wrote to the company for information and I never recieved a reply. I can assume at this point that this company cannot be trusted to tell the truth about this software with reference to release date and that they have never been honest given all the information released thus far.

The reason this is frustrating is that the concept itself is specious: An "eve like" world where epic battles occur between 100's of players is not possible given the current technology. Blizzard's WOW suffered this realization early on when they nixed world PVP because servers simply cannot handle it.

My take? I believe they are lying to the public in order to re-tool what they realize was a wish list of features and in the end this will be released with a modicum of promised content and will be another sloppy, ill-concieved attempt to take gam,er's money away before they realize they are duped.

JMHO.

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  • As soon as they ask for your money.. start worrying.

  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by yourhead


     
    The reason this is frustrating is that the concept itself is specious: An "eve like" world where epic battles occur between 100's of players is not possible given the current technology. Blizzard's WOW suffered this realization early on when they nixed world PVP because servers simply cannot handle it.
     

    Dark Age of Camelot had 400 man battles in 2001. Not possible? No, just not attempted. Why bother when you just have to make a theme park MMO for some quick cash. 

  • Random_mageRandom_mage Member UncommonPosts: 1,093
    Originally posted by yourhead


    The forum is useless
    JMHO.



     

    This.

    There is almost no point in asking for a release.  The trolls will laugh and say LOLVAPORWARZ, and the fanboys will say it will come out when it's ready (or after the release date announcement 12/2008, but now back to "It will come out when it's ready")

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  • NotNiceDinoNotNiceDino Member Posts: 320

    The forum is useless, and there is no good information right now to serve as a basis for you considering a purchase of Darkfall, which doesn't really matter given that we don't even know when it may be possible for you to consider a purchase of Darkfall.

    Nothing you can really do right now, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Hopefully you'll get more information, eventually. I stopped holding my breath in '05.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069
    Originally posted by Random_mage

    Originally posted by yourhead


    The forum is useless
    JMHO.



     

    This.

    There is almost no point in asking for a release.  The trolls will laugh and say LOLVAPORWARZ, and the fanboys will say it will come out when it's ready (or after the release date announcement 12/2008, but now back to "It will come out when it's ready")

     

    Er the forum is not to blame for the lack of information regarding DF and its release date, that squarely belongs on the shoulders of Aventurine.

     

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  • WhitewalkerWhitewalker Member Posts: 86
    Originally posted by yourhead


    The forum is useless for gaining information because everytime somebody posts a legitimate question regarding the release date, the post is either banned or not answered.
    Going through previous posts from the developer side, I see a long line of obfuscations.
    I then wrote to the company for information and I never recieved a reply. I can assume at this point that this company cannot be trusted to tell the truth about this software with reference to release date and that they have never been honest given all the information released thus far.
    The reason this is frustrating is that the concept itself is specious: An "eve like" world where epic battles occur between 100's of players is not possible given the current technology. Blizzard's WOW suffered this realization early on when they nixed world PVP because servers simply cannot handle it.
    My take? I believe they are lying to the public in order to re-tool what they realize was a wish list of features and in the end this will be released with a modicum of promised content and will be another sloppy, ill-concieved attempt to take gam,er's money away before they realize they are duped.
    JMHO.
     
     

    If you searched the forums a little more carefully you would have read that the game will be released with a 14 day free trial from the day GO. So you don't need to worry about losing any money, if the game doesn't work for you, just don't play it. How more simple can they make it for you?

  • joelfilhojoelfilho Member Posts: 9
    Originally posted by Whitewalker

    Originally posted by yourhead


    The forum is useless for gaining information because everytime somebody posts a legitimate question regarding the release date, the post is either banned or not answered.
    Going through previous posts from the developer side, I see a long line of obfuscations.
    I then wrote to the company for information and I never recieved a reply. I can assume at this point that this company cannot be trusted to tell the truth about this software with reference to release date and that they have never been honest given all the information released thus far.
    The reason this is frustrating is that the concept itself is specious: An "eve like" world where epic battles occur between 100's of players is not possible given the current technology. Blizzard's WOW suffered this realization early on when they nixed world PVP because servers simply cannot handle it.
    My take? I believe they are lying to the public in order to re-tool what they realize was a wish list of features and in the end this will be released with a modicum of promised content and will be another sloppy, ill-concieved attempt to take gam,er's money away before they realize they are duped.
    JMHO.
     
     

    If you searched the forums a little more carefully you would have read that the game will be released with a 14 day free trial from the day GO. So you don't need to worry about losing any money, if the game doesn't work for you, just don't play it. How more simple can they make it for you?

    Pretty much.. why you think they are lying? What advantages they will get from lying to the hole market and not only to the community?

    As said, you have the option to try the game before spending a single coin on it (the 14 day free trial isnt precise tho)

    If there was some kind of pre-order or shirt selling, then we should be worried about loosing money. But hey, they have investors and are spending lotsa money on the development of the game, and until now they did not ask for a single dollar or euro from anyone but those investors? They still have their credibility, i dunno for how long, or they may be loosing it if they don't reach the 2008 official release.

  • IhmoteppIhmotepp Member Posts: 14,495

    You seriously can't buy this game right now, because it's not for sale at the moment.

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  • Battle-SotABattle-SotA Member Posts: 20

    You think they are going to give you a more definite release date in an email than they will publicly announce? 

    They have said 2008, which seems unlikely to me now, but you never know.

  • BlodplsBlodpls Member Posts: 1,454
    Originally posted by Ihmotepp


    You seriously can't buy this game right now, because it's not for sale at the moment.

     

    True, you can't buy it yet so why the need for info?

  • mindspatmindspat Member Posts: 1,367
    Originally posted by Whitewalker 
    If you searched the forums a little more carefully you would have read that the game will be released with a 14 day free trial from the day GO. So you don't need to worry about losing any money, if the game doesn't work for you, just don't play it. How more simple can they make it for you?



     

    So, there's going to be a Free Trial without purchasing it?  That's VERY cool! 

    How are they going to distribute it - if they're going with a 14 day trial at launch it sounds as if they're retaining publication and ownership while planning to focus on digital distribution of the product.  Sounds like a win-win to me. 

  • SupderDSupderD Member Posts: 243
    Originally posted by mindspat

    Originally posted by Whitewalker 
    If you searched the forums a little more carefully you would have read that the game will be released with a 14 day free trial from the day GO. So you don't need to worry about losing any money, if the game doesn't work for you, just don't play it. How more simple can they make it for you?



     

    So, there's going to be a Free Trial without purchasing it?  That's VERY cool! 

    How are they going to distribute it - if they're going with a 14 day trial at launch it sounds as if they're retaining publication and ownership while planning to focus on digital distribution of the product.  Sounds like a win-win to me. 



     

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  • EvolvedMonkyEvolvedMonky Member Posts: 549
    Originally posted by SupderD

    Originally posted by mindspat

    Originally posted by Whitewalker 
    If you searched the forums a little more carefully you would have read that the game will be released with a 14 day free trial from the day GO. So you don't need to worry about losing any money, if the game doesn't work for you, just don't play it. How more simple can they make it for you?



     

    So, there's going to be a Free Trial without purchasing it?  That's VERY cool! 

    How are they going to distribute it - if they're going with a 14 day trial at launch it sounds as if they're retaining publication and ownership while planning to focus on digital distribution of the product.  Sounds like a win-win to me. 



     

    .. Please note: This is just a theory, Our Great God Tasos hopes to give freely to all who follow him.  Praise be to Tasos!!!! 



     

    I dont think you were being sarcastic with that comment super.

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  • TheodgrimTheodgrim Member Posts: 535
    Originally posted by Whitewalker


    If you searched the forums a little more carefully you would have read that the game will be released with a 14 day free trial from the day GO. So you don't need to worry about losing any money, if the game doesn't work for you, just don't play it. How more simple can they make it for you?



     

    Link us!  You apparently have access to news that the rest of us do not...

  • FockerFocker Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by Theodgrim

    Originally posted by Whitewalker


    If you searched the forums a little more carefully you would have read that the game will be released with a 14 day free trial from the day GO. So you don't need to worry about losing any money, if the game doesn't work for you, just don't play it. How more simple can they make it for you?



     

    Link us!  You apparently have access to news that the rest of us do not...



     

    Its posted on the DF forums.  I'll give it a search since you seem to have the case of the lazy's

  • TheodgrimTheodgrim Member Posts: 535
    Originally posted by Focker


    Its posted on the DF forums.  I'll give it a search since you seem to have the case of the lazy's



     

    I dont think anyone can call me lazy when it comes to quoting Aventurine, I have been through the news forum many times over.  If you can link me to this "released with a 14 day free trial" statement, I would be equally shocked and appreciative.

  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459
    Originally posted by Theodgrim

    Originally posted by Focker


    Its posted on the DF forums.  I'll give it a search since you seem to have the case of the lazy's



     

    I dont think anyone can call me lazy when it comes to quoting Aventurine, I have been through the news forum many times over.  If you can link me to this "released with a 14 day free trial" statement, I would be equally shocked and appreciative.

    I'll second Theodgrim's statement there.

     

    If Focker, or any poster for that matter...

    Can find a Dev quote promising a 14 day free trial with the release of DarkFall

    It will be a piece that has escaped the notice of every "full-time" poster on this forum.   I find it hard to believe that we all wouldn't have seen it by now.

     

    Tasos has said time and time again... They HOPE to offer some sort of Free Trial, or some other way for players to try the game before they buy it.  No mention of a 14-day trial, no mention of a promise, pretty much just the same language for everything... so yeah. 

     

     

  • imbantimbant Member Posts: 1,291
    Originally posted by xzyax


     
    Tasos has said time and time again... They HOPE to offer some sort of Free Trial, or some other way for players to try the game before they buy it.  No mention of a 14-day trial, no mention of a promise, pretty much just the same language for everything... so yeah. 
     
     



     

    This is correct.  Anyone trying to say something different is just flat out wrong.

    Unless they have information that has not been made availible to the public yet, but im going to go with just being flat out wrong.

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  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812
    Originally posted by xzyax

    Originally posted by Theodgrim

    Originally posted by Focker


    Its posted on the DF forums.  I'll give it a search since you seem to have the case of the lazy's



     

    I dont think anyone can call me lazy when it comes to quoting Aventurine, I have been through the news forum many times over.  If you can link me to this "released with a 14 day free trial" statement, I would be equally shocked and appreciative.

    I'll second Theodgrim's statement there.

     

    If Focker, or any poster for that matter...

    Can find a Dev quote promising a 14 day free trial with the release of DarkFall

    It will be a piece that has escaped the notice of every "full-time" poster on this forum.   I find it hard to believe that we all wouldn't have seen it by now.

     

    Tasos has said time and time again... They HOPE to offer some sort of Free Trial, or some other way for players to try the game before they buy it.  No mention of a 14-day trial, no mention of a promise, pretty much just the same language for everything... so yeah. 

     

     

    Didn't Tasos say that everyone will have a chance to play the game before they payed a penny for it? I seem to remember all sorts of supporters of Tasos throwing this in everyones face, saying that DF is so much better than other games because you will be able to test it before you buy it.

     

    This has been an integral part of DF's allure for me. If it turns out there is no free testing before buying...I will be very wary indeed.

  • satojinsatojin Member Posts: 125

    This thread is pointless. You do not have to pay a dime for the game until you've tried it and are ready to buy it (as stated by Tasos).

  • SupderDSupderD Member Posts: 243
    Originally posted by satojin


    This thread is pointless. You do not have to pay a dime for the game until you've tried it and are ready to buy it (as stated by Tasos).

     

    Our lord Tasos said HOPE, not FOR SURE.  take note, follower.

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