U cant PL your ALTS in EQ2!!

Jenkz

I found this on one of the EQ2 sites: EverQuest II aims to be a well balanced game in almost every aspect. This includes curbing extreme power leveling and especially ways to exploit the game illegally. Two major ways they intend to do this is through the closed-combat system and item level restrictions.

The closed-combat system essentially allows you to fight monsters without interruption from outside players. It also aims to reduce kill stealers and ninja looters. This system can be a good thing and a bad thing. I'll let you point out the positive and negative aspects.

Item level restrictions put a cap on how high or low you can equip a particular piece of equipment. You will be able to equip anything below your level, although the effectiveness will decrease the farther the base level of the item gets from your experience level. For the upper range you will be able to equip anything up to five levels higher than you.

The question I bring about in this weeks TotW is this:

How do you intend to support your alternate characters as well as guild member characters with these restrictions? Will guilds play a bigger role because of these elements?"

Now how %$#@% is that?

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Enigma

I think the closed-combat system is very very good.  At least you're not going to see a Lineage ][ style of gameplay.

 

Also, I welcome the level restrictions on the mmorpg.  Frankly, the majority of all the mmorpgs I currently play has these rstrictions.  Why could a lvl 4 Mage put on a lvl 40 cloak? 

So, in my eyes, good job to the DEVs on this development.  For me, I have no desire for alternate characters so I really dont know.

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Originally posted by WizGamer
Now hear me out, its just an opinion, I don't want yours. .

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Harafnir

If they make a fame system that only punish the powerlevellers and those that just want freebies (Freebie superequipment and freebie PLing with help of some highlevel) And try to make it more fun for those that actually PLAY the game...

Then I salute them. Good work! Hopefully the beggars can go to another game now and scream for help for four weeks, then sit and brag how big they are and how fast it went. And us normal people can enjoy the game without their constant whine/empty bragging.

Devs are learning.. Now its up to the players to use the noodle as well.

Only game I wait for right now: Imperator.
Go Mythic!

Unknown

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Originally posted by zareon

I found this on one of the EQ2 sites: EverQuest II aims to be a well balanced game in almost every aspect. This includes curbing extreme power leveling and especially ways to exploit the game illegally.

  Alrady tried in EQ. And many other MMORPGs. As Raph Koster pointed out in one of the most famous game DEV threads ever made called "The Longest Post" it is impossible to stop power gamers. Think about it..... in EQ many players have 6, and even 8 seperate accounts that they pay for! It gets better - many play hundreds of bucks real life money for ingame items! There is nothing stopping powergamers from buying 4, 6, or 8 seperate accounts for EQ2. They will make their own groups and raid the quests, the personal instancing dungeons, etc... They will powerlevel like madpeople!

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Thunderlipz

The way they are avoiding this is by awarding heroic opportunities and having npc Artificial intelligence.  Its going to be much harder to run a group yourself in EQ2, especially if you want to do heroic opportunites.  Its not going to be so much like turning on auto attack and going afk.  So people maybe able to play two characters at once, but I don't see it being efficient to do so with all of the combat skills that the devs have described on the forums.

jayheld90

boohoohoo you cant pl your alts. actually i can think of a way right now, the same way it was done in FFXI, and they had locked encounters. just have a high lvl healer heal ya without grouping. aside from that im sure people will find other ways.

Thunderlipz

U gotta be grouped to heal I believe. 

ramadin

Yep, no one can heal you outside the grp.

 

 

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jayheld90

wow you cant heal anyopne unless grouped, or is it just while they are fighting.

anyways good job soe, maybe they got rid of powergaming finally. lvl 50+ newbs on eq that didnt know how to play thier character got pretty lame.

sparkatb

The only way a healer can heal you outside of the group is if its in a raid type encounter.

Raid type encounters in EQ2 where more than 6 people are required, if allowable by the encounter players are allowed to form a raid of upto a set amount of people stated by that encounter. Note that the actual game limits any encounter of upto a max of 24 players.

Obviously your not going to want to PL from raid type encounters because the quantity of XP-over-time will be crap, slow.

You can only initiate raid formation if the encounter allow's it. The way i understand/read you can do this is by going upto the entrance of an encounter zone/area or mob, clicking on it and it apparantly show's you how many people are required or allowed to participate - as a raid.

hapwned

Correct, it's like in FFXI where you cannot attack anything that's already been engaged. When you run by something in EQ2, you will see someone fighting a goblin, and there's a lock symbol above their head and the goblins head. You cannot help them, or hurt the goblin while that lock is in place.

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sliver

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Originally posted by xplororor
Originally posted by zareon Alrady tried in EQ. And many other MMORPGs. As Raph Koster pointed out in one of the most famous game DEV threads ever made called "The Longest Post" it is impossible to stop power gamers. Think about it..... in EQ many players have 6, and even 8 seperate accounts that they pay for! It gets better - many play hundreds of bucks real life money for ingame items! There is nothing stopping powergamers from buying 4, 6, or 8 seperate accounts for EQ2. They will make their own groups and raid the quests, the personal instancing dungeons, etc... They will powerlevel like madpeople!

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They wont be able to do that, playing each character will be much more involved than in EQ. There will be too much to keep up with for one person. If a person wants a buffbot, they will have to group with the buffbot because you cant buff people outside of the group. That means that you cant get high level buffs without actually being grouped with the high lvl, which would kill your xp. This makes me happy because in DAoC my druid was useless at high levels because every f'n body had a lvl 50 druid bot following them around, it was impossible to get a group. You could still have a tank/healer group run by one person, but it would not be very efficient. I think EQ2 has done a great job with discouraging powerleveling, even if it isnt entirely bullet-proof, its pretty close.

Keigi

Some of the new games already have these in place, *Points to City of Heros*, I really don't think that this will have a big impact on game play. I've played L2 and the system they had in place opened up a door for a lot of wrong doings that players could do on each other.

raptorfalcon

I personally agree with SOE in the implementation of these measures... I hate high level n00bs....

Coldmeat

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Originally posted by sliver
Originally posted by xplororor
Originally posted by zareon Alrady tried in EQ. And many other MMORPGs. As Raph Koster pointed out in one of the most famous game DEV threads ever made called "The Longest Post" it is impossible to stop power gamers. Think about it..... in EQ many players have 6, and even 8 seperate accounts that they pay for! It gets better - many play hundreds of bucks real life money for ingame items! There is nothing stopping powergamers from buying 4, 6, or 8 seperate accounts for EQ2. They will make their own groups and raid the quests, the personal instancing dungeons, etc... They will powerlevel like madpeople!

They wont be able to do that, playing each character will be much more involved than in EQ. There will be too much to keep up with for one person. If a person wants a buffbot, they will have to group with the buffbot because you cant buff people outside of the group. That means that you cant get high level buffs without actually being grouped with the high lvl, which would kill your xp. This makes me happy because in DAoC my druid was useless at high levels because every f'n body had a lvl 50 druid bot following them around, it was impossible to get a group. You could still have a tank/healer group run by one person, but it would not be very efficient. I think EQ2 has done a great job with discouraging powerleveling, even if it isnt entirely bullet-proof, its pretty close.

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You've got to be shittin' me?! Can't heal or buff people not in youor raid/group. That's got to be the stupidest thing they've ever come up with. That's even worse than staring at the bloody spellbook for 35 levels.

I can understand them wanting to stop powergamers, or whatever, but why give everyone else the shaft at the same time? I don't see this system staying around, as it will cause more problems in the long run than it will fix. Say you get jumped by a mob, and get beat up and poisoned, while traveling from A to B. Sorry, you're gonna die, unless you can find a that healer to leave his group to heal you. No more being nice, and doing runby heals/buffs, etc.

While I don't feel the devs should cater to the whims of powergamers, they're just as foolish for catering to every whiney little shit that has a hissy fit because they can't or won't put the same effort into the game as the powergamers, but expect the same returns.